Can't exit locations, ending up with grey screen

[bonschowi]

Hi,

so basically I came across a problem yesterday, where I went to a cave in the north-eastern Rift and when I went out, my screen was gray/green. It was kind of, as if a gigant orc stood before me and blocked my LoS. I couldn't move, but I could load a previous save, or acces the menu. Although when I went into the object-submenu it crashed.

The weird thing is, that I entered 2 or 3 dungeons or purpose to test the problem and the it happend only ehen I exited the places for the 2nd time.

I have read, that mods, that add to much stuff to the world can cause something like this. So I uninstalled "Immersive Creatures" the right way(as stated on the mod page). The only other mods that I uninstalled were "Safety Load" and "Jaxonz Map Markers". I don't think, that my load order has any problems, since it worked just fine 2 days ago.

 

Would it help if I reinstall those mods, or did this cause the problems?

Would be nice if someone could help me, since it is really gamebreaking.

[onesumgame]

42 minutes ago, BAmling said:

Hi,

so basically I came across a problem yesterday, where I went to a cave in the north-eastern Rift and when I went out, my screen was gray/green. It was kind of, as if a gigant orc stood before me and blocked my LoS. I couldn't move, but I could load a previous save, or acces the menu. Although when I went into the object-submenu it crashed.

The weird thing is, that I entered 2 or 3 dungeons or purpose to test the problem and the it happend only ehen I exited the places for the 2nd time.

I have read, that mods, that add to much stuff to the world can cause something like this. So I uninstalled "Immersive Creatures" the right way(as stated on the mod page). The only other mods that I uninstalled were "Safety Load" and "Jaxonz Map Markers". I don't think, that my load order has any problems, since it worked just fine 2 days ago.

 

Would it help if I reinstall those mods, or did this cause the problems?

Would be nice if someone could help me, since it is really gamebreaking.

This has happened to me a few times and I never found out what caused it, and it happens so rarely that I don't worry about it. The solution was to simply revert to an older save and lose my progress. Lesson learned: Use 2 or 3 save slots per play session.

[Karen1965]

The mod or a mod may have overwritten SKY ESM .This use to happen a lot in the days gone past . I can only advise check all you version are the latest up dates . I not sure you are running through steam as I am . If so it may be delete the save in question as it may be corrupt . Go to Steam check your game in library- properties-local files .that will correct Sky ESM . That all I can help with .  Sorry Karen . 

[bonschowi]

The problem that I have ist, that I tried to reload older saves from 1/2 days ago. And there the problem happened to after a while. And I save a lot, after 20 hours or so I have 130 manuall saves ^^, because the game used to CTD randomly before I uninstalled Safety Load.

My guess is, that me uninstalling those mods midgame corrupted my current playtrough, so that I have to start over again.

[bonschowi]

12 minutes ago, Karen1965 said:

The mod or a mod may have overwritten SKY ESM .This use to happen a lot in the days gone past . I can only advise check all you version are the latest up dates . I not sure you are running through steam as I am . If so it may be delete the save in question as it may be corrupt . Go to Steam check your game in library- properties-local files .that will correct Sky ESM . That all I can help with .  Sorry Karen . 

I tried to check my files, as you said and it found one , that it downloaded. When I play the game again, I will check if something changed.

[Psalam]

Try posting your load order and the papyrus logs where you have CTDs and I (and likely others) will take a look and see if your issue can be simply resolved.

[bonschowi]

1 minute ago, Psalam said:

Try posting your load order and the papyrus logs where you have CTDs and I (and likely others) will take a look and see if your issue can be simply resolved.

How do I upload the papyrus logs, simply choosing the files from my documents? Or do I need a specific program?

[bonschowi]

Here would be my last file

Papyrus.0.log

[Psalam]

Spoiler

18 minutes ago, BAmling said:

Here would be my last file

Papyrus.0.log

 

Good job. Now the load order (you should be able to get this from your mod manager-both NMM and MO make accessing this easy).

[GenioMaestro]

3 hours ago, BAmling said:

Hi,

so basically I came across a problem yesterday, where I went to a cave in the north-eastern Rift and when I went out, my screen was gray/green....

Your screen go green or gray...

How exactly???  Is all the screen??? Have you some zones in other color?

Can you see any, rocks, grass, trees, under the green/gray filter???   Maybe the sun???

If the game respond to menu orders sure you can make a screenshot... can be very helpfull.

 

This problem can be many things... a video memory out problem that yours utils or your videocard solve in that extrange way... Can be bad settings in the graphics sections of the ini files of the game... can be a problem with ENB if you have it... can be a mod making bad things with the ImageSpaceModifiers...

 

Need more info... try give us a screenshot and tell us if you have EBN and how is EXACTLY the green/gray screen.

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Your log say that you have some bad things in the mod's of the game... 

Some files are faulting and some mods are bad installed or are bad mods that generate errors in your first 500 lines of papyrus.

But the big problem come when the game load the savegame.

You have near 2500 lines of errors that probably come from uninstalled mods stored in your savegame.

How many months have you playing the same gameplay without start a NEW GAME???

Have you verified your problem in a NEW GAME???

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If you have frecuent CTD maybe you need the stability tools, but want see your mod list and get more info before say you that install more things. First go to see what you have and how you have it.

[bonschowi]

Ok here should be my load order

 

When I exit a location, my screen is grey, its like a white screen you get, when aour pc crashes. The only thing visible is the hud, I can't see any trees etc. And I can't move, the minimap at the top doesn't change when I turn my camera.

I play that playthrough for about a week now and never had this before I uninstalled said mods.

I'm using ENB for the entire time and never had troubles with that.

 

loadorder.txt

 

I would be ok if I had to restart the game, the only thing I kind of want to know is, if it is because of the mods I uninstalled.

[GenioMaestro]

"Immersive Creatures" the right way(as stated on the mod page). The only other mods that I uninstalled were "Safety Load" and "Jaxonz Map Markers". 

 

Skyrim Immersive creatures is the only dangerous, but if you follow the un-install instructions can't have problems.

Safety Load is a pure SKSE mod and only have a DLL file. Not have ESP and can't give any problem for remove it

Jaxonz Map Markers is only for that, mark as you want. If you not have mark any you can safely remove it.

 

But yours problems come from other sites.

If you only play a week in your gameplay i doubt you can have problems in the savegame, but for be sure, clean it with ReSaver.

 

You only have 120 mods but maybe you have a small machine. Install this if you not have it:

SKSE Memory Patch

Crash Fixes 12

ENB in Boost mode

Load Game CTD Fix

 

You say never have problems with ENB but is easy verify if the problem come from ENB.

First run it with UsePatchSpeedhackWithoutGraphics=true

Second try total disable of ENB renaming the d3d9.dll

 

Maybe you have some bad settings in the INI files. Try correct ir with BetIni.

[Grey Cloud]

You can temporarily disable the ENB by hitting (usually) Shift F12. Check your ENB's docs.

 

[onesumgame]

1 hour ago, GenioMaestro said:

 

Need more info... try give us a screenshot and tell us if you have EBN and how is EXACTLY the green/gray screen.

 

When I had this problem the screen was a sea green color like an empty cell without a sky or any meshes or textures. As the op stated the hud is visible but movement is impossible. By reverting to an older save I was able to continue playing without problem and without changing anything in my load order.

[GenioMaestro]

33 minutes ago, onesumgame said:

When I had this problem the screen was a sea green color like an empty cell without a sky or any meshes or textures. As the op stated the hud is visible but movement is impossible. By reverting to an older save I was able to continue playing without problem and without changing anything in my load order.

That look like a problem in a mod that make a bad teleport.

 

If you go to an empty cell, real and totally empty, of course you see nothing because not have any light point or ambient light, you can't walk because the cell not have NavMesh that can be walked, the minimap not move because the cell not have the main locator that say the position of the player when enter the cell and where must look, and this locator is linked to the minimap. Teorically, you must be in constant free drop because not have a valid NavMesh or a locator to be teleported, but you can't see the drop because see nothing with cero light, the total screen is gray. The game continue working normally and you have access to the menu.

 

If loading older save solve the problem, can be a memory out problem.

The game must make CTD by memory out but some utility prevent it and get that extrange cell.

 

If happend randomly in diferent locations only can be one of these things, imo, of course.

[wokking56]

I'm with ONESUMGAME here it happens so rarely for me that I just ignore it. However as a precaution I always save before I enter or exit any clearly delineated space (building/cave/mine etc.).

[onesumgame]

9 minutes ago, wokking56 said:

I'm with ONESUMGAME here it happens so rarely for me that I just ignore it. However as a precaution I always save before I enter or exit any clearly delineated space (building/cave/mine etc.).

Agreed. On average it happens once per year so I dismiss it as glitch, likely memory related as GenioMaestro suggested.

[bonschowi]

So I started a new character and after 4 or 5 hours I just got my first CTD when pressing Esc, because I wanted to save manually. But since I'm used to having them every 30 minutes, I'm ok with it.

Really seems like uninstalling the mods fucked up my savegame.

 

So I guess the answer to my question is: don't disable mods in a playthrough and expect nothing to change?