Ravenous SSE

[nonofyodambiznes]

In the VIP quest is there any way to select simza as appetizer? She only gets selected as main course 

[Delzaron]

6 hours ago, nonofyodambiznes said:

In the VIP quest is there any way to select simza as appetizer? She only gets selected as main course 

no, she can be selected only as main course.

[Delzaron]

23 hours ago, nonofyodambiznes said:

Shame, I really liked this mod, was hoping there were more quests and scenarios

Would be nice if you could bring back the punishment quest or more scenarios that involves player on a plate maybe as an offering to riftens jarl or sacrifice for namira

 

could be an idea, indeed...

[R3lS]

While I'm a bit new to working with the CK, I noticed that the punishment quest looks like it was originally intended as a failure outcome from the meat collecting quest. If you were looking for ways to reuse it. It could be used as a chance outcome from the Waitress quest. Chance that a particular customer, just is not pleased with the service, and as a way for Carnificina to correct the situation, she could have the player spitted / impaled for the entertainment of the customers. Then perhaps a chance to survive the punishment if the customers enjoyed the show, or chance to be roasted and served on a plate.

[Delzaron]

On 10/3/2023 at 9:00 PM, R3lS said:

While I'm a bit new to working with the CK, I noticed that the punishment quest looks like it was originally intended as a failure outcome from the meat collecting quest. If you were looking for ways to reuse it. It could be used as a chance outcome from the Waitress quest. Chance that a particular customer, just is not pleased with the service, and as a way for Carnificina to correct the situation, she could have the player spitted / impaled for the entertainment of the customers. Then perhaps a chance to survive the punishment if the customers enjoyed the show, or chance to be roasted and served on a plate.

 

indeed.

But I created some mess in the mod progression, specially of a npc hit carnificina. So  I disabled it, but let it in the mod, just in case something came in my mind to reuse it.

 

 

[feelsodirtyinsideforthis]

so she doesn't turn you into a vampire anymore?

[Delzaron]

On 10/8/2023 at 5:26 PM, feelsodirtyinsideforthis said:

so she doesn't turn you into a vampire anymore?

indeed.

[Delzaron]

23 hours ago, nonofyodambiznes said:

Any chance we get new content for the mod? I prefer the lore of this one over meatfarm would love to see an update with new quests that would involve player as meat

 

I wish to advance on FTD, maybe AFS new run of fixes.

 

for ravenous, ideas are :

- turn the unused punishement quest as a "disapointed client" stuff (for exemple, triggered when you made too lot of mistalkes in the waitress job rep quest).

- some new recipes (the boiler ?) but I need the ressources and anim stuff. I failed to extract it from zaz by tara 9.0 (that zaz version make my LE skurim very unstable).

 

[nonofyodambiznes]

17 hours ago, Delzaron said:

 

I wish to advance on FTD, maybe AFS new run of fixes.

 

for ravenous, ideas are :

- turn the unused punishement quest as a "disapointed client" stuff (for exemple, triggered when you made too lot of mistalkes in the waitress job rep quest).

- some new recipes (the boiler ?) but I need the ressources and anim stuff. I failed to extract it from zaz by tara 9.0 (that zaz version make my LE skurim very unstable).

 

A sacrifice/ offering quest for player where they send her as live cattle to riften jarl to strengthen alliance or maybe a namira annual ritual/holiday quest with player as sacrifice would be nice like namira day or something 

 

Or maybe a quest where after a few days that the player asks to be freed and leaves castle naemirr she starts fantasizing about becoming meat and goes back and talks to carnificina to offer herself as a meal

Edited October 12, 2023 by nonofyodambiznes

[Delzaron]

2 hours ago, nonofyodambiznes said:

any news on punishment quest or new content?

 

I just released the updte for FTD ! Let me rest !

[R3lS]

2 hours ago, nonofyodambiznes said:

any news on punishment quest or new content?

Content takes time.

 

33 minutes ago, Delzaron said:

 

I just released the updte for FTD ! Let me rest !

^ this

 

I've been using this quest as a way of learning to use CK. Mostly just added / adjusted Dialogue, and it's a tedious process.

[nonofyodambiznes]

1 hour ago, Delzaron said:

 

I just released the updte for FTD ! Let me rest !

any content involving player sacrifice or guro?

[Delzaron]

32 minutes ago, nonofyodambiznes said:

any content involving player sacrifice or guro?

 

only a trap for now.

I need to implement a bad end liked to a dialogue choice with Arthrarak.

The main objective of the update was to finish transfering the insmouth assets, and built the island.

[nonofyodambiznes]

45 minutes ago, Delzaron said:

 

only a trap for now.

I need to implement a bad end liked to a dialogue choice with Arthrarak.

The main objective of the update was to finish transfering the insmouth assets, and built the island.

personally prefer ravenous over other mods even more than meat farm but hey they're your mods so best of luck 

[Delzaron]

11 minutes ago, nonofyodambiznes said:

personally prefer ravenous over other mods even more than meat farm but hey they're your mods so best of luck 

 

please keep in mind I consider Ravenous finished, as dark arena, or neophytes of Dibella.

I'm just polishing my mods before the new TESC will come. There are others waiting their turn : FTD, AFS, NMM, maybe TID (it will be only SE, the LE version was too unstable).

 

For raevnous and the punishment quest, the quest will be triggered when you failed tos erve the clients 4 times.

Carni will choose your fate : beheading, spitroasting, sold to slavery. I'll maybe add a sell as meat to another faction (Namira cultists ?).

 

You can choose a lot in Ravenous.

For example, when you return in Ravenous as slave, yiu can choose to serve as slave or as meat.

I don't plan to resurect the Namira themed party, it was a hell in term of bugs, and I don't want to spend too lot of time on ravenous.

If Pama make new themed cannibalism furnitures, I'll try to include it in Ravenous.

 

Please remind I do this on my free time.

[nonofyodambiznes]

understood

[Leavira]

So I understand you are done with the mod in terms of development but though that now I have had a chance to go through it properly I would leave some thoughts and feedback should you ever come back to it.

 

Bugs:

 

So I have only really run into four bugs with the last version; 

 

1. Recruiting Camila, the conversation never starts, the quest pop up, listen to the conversation comes up and then nothing, have to skip that section with the console command every time.

 

2. Serving the VIP, when serving a slave from the spit they don't move to the spike, just fall to the floor limp, you can make them vanish with the butchers knife afterwards if you get to the end of that part  and need to clean up.

 

3. CTD after serving a slave for the VIP quest, this is an intermittent one, doesn't happen every time but more often than not it takes several reloads to get past it.

 

4. Riftens Steward, she doesn't go to her room or trigger a scene with you, you just have to talk to her three times and thats it.

 

Translation:

 

So there are a couple of translation issues as far as I can tell, most are easily ignored save for one, that is when doing the waitress quest the customer will ask for 'steak' when they want 'stew' (at least that is the item you have to get them to advance the quest), is somewhat annoying when your sure you have what they asked for only to be told its not.

 

Next time I have this mod on (currently testing builds) I will see about making a full list and corrections for the English translations if that would be of any help.

 

Gameplay:

 

So while I do enjoy the mod overall I have found that the restriction to the 1h sword can be a pain if you have built your character around something other than 1h or magic (magic working since you can loot clothing from the vigilantes and just use the Butcher's Knife on dead bodies). If you built your character as a 2h or bow user then the combat you have to do for recruiting one of the staff and for getting meat can be a pain in the neck. Having the Butcher's Knife be an enchanted Knife and not a weapon and you being allowed to pick a weapon I think would make the gameplay of the mood feel a lot smoother. 

 

Quests:

 

The meat pie sample quest is such a pain in the neck, it is so random who will take them and not, even had times where the inn keeper in Riften was refusing to take any, it would be better as a reworked into being sent to give free samples to specific people, say Helga at the Bunk House, Bee and Bards Inn Keeper, the Steward and Maven Blackbrier.

 

The Endings:

 

So when you have done all the initial quests and are given your choice I feel like there are a couple options that could be added when you are being asked to make your choice;

 

"Can't I keep working here?" This one being that you just continue to do the other quests for a time, either until one of the other endings comes up (such as being picked for the VIP) or until after certain conditions are meet you end up on the Mistress's plate or sold off without input from you.

 

"What would you prefer Mistress", this one takes the choice away from you and depending on a few factors that are measured over the mod you are either sold off or traded for new meat slaves (Simple Slavery ++ integration there), get turned into meat or kept around as a waitress until another ending is triggered.

 

If you do chose to leave, either being sold or freed it would be nice to have the option to come back as a customer as well.

 

 

[R3lS]

@Leavira Excellent review there.
I've gone through almost all of the Translation and dialogue and fixed them in my own edit (and even added additional ones). I keep finding the odd one that I think I've squashed and then test and find there was a slightly different thing I missed. Most of the bugs I feel like are just a result of what @Delzaron has mentioned in the past as some mistakes or errors in the quest or script generation, which sort of trickles down through. Seems to be a bit difficult to fix without a complete rework. Those Endings options are quite well thought out. I would agree that it seems a missed opportunity for an ending with Carnificina as the one with the PC on her plate even after all the other things your character has done, after all Carni is still a Vampire and she recognizes the PC's quality from the start... The meatslave quests are also buggy at least in what I have tested, seems they sometimes work from the sleep action, but sometimes just say there are no quests. 

[Delzaron]

On 10/22/2023 at 7:56 PM, Leavira said:

So I understand you are done with the mod in terms of development but though that now I have had a chance to go through it properly I would leave some thoughts and feedback should you ever come back to it.

 

Bugs:

 

So I have only really run into four bugs with the last version; 

 

1. Recruiting Camila, the conversation never starts, the quest pop up, listen to the conversation comes up and then nothing, have to skip that section with the console command every time.

 

2. Serving the VIP, when serving a slave from the spit they don't move to the spike, just fall to the floor limp, you can make them vanish with the butchers knife afterwards if you get to the end of that part  and need to clean up.

 

3. CTD after serving a slave for the VIP quest, this is an intermittent one, doesn't happen every time but more often than not it takes several reloads to get past it.

 

4. Riftens Steward, she doesn't go to her room or trigger a scene with you, you just have to talk to her three times and thats it.

 

Translation:

 

So there are a couple of translation issues as far as I can tell, most are easily ignored save for one, that is when doing the waitress quest the customer will ask for 'steak' when they want 'stew' (at least that is the item you have to get them to advance the quest), is somewhat annoying when your sure you have what they asked for only to be told its not.

 

Next time I have this mod on (currently testing builds) I will see about making a full list and corrections for the English translations if that would be of any help.

 

Gameplay:

 

So while I do enjoy the mod overall I have found that the restriction to the 1h sword can be a pain if you have built your character around something other than 1h or magic (magic working since you can loot clothing from the vigilantes and just use the Butcher's Knife on dead bodies). If you built your character as a 2h or bow user then the combat you have to do for recruiting one of the staff and for getting meat can be a pain in the neck. Having the Butcher's Knife be an enchanted Knife and not a weapon and you being allowed to pick a weapon I think would make the gameplay of the mood feel a lot smoother. 

 

Quests:

 

The meat pie sample quest is such a pain in the neck, it is so random who will take them and not, even had times where the inn keeper in Riften was refusing to take any, it would be better as a reworked into being sent to give free samples to specific people, say Helga at the Bunk House, Bee and Bards Inn Keeper, the Steward and Maven Blackbrier.

 

The Endings:

 

So when you have done all the initial quests and are given your choice I feel like there are a couple options that could be added when you are being asked to make your choice;

 

"Can't I keep working here?" This one being that you just continue to do the other quests for a time, either until one of the other endings comes up (such as being picked for the VIP) or until after certain conditions are meet you end up on the Mistress's plate or sold off without input from you.

 

"What would you prefer Mistress", this one takes the choice away from you and depending on a few factors that are measured over the mod you are either sold off or traded for new meat slaves (Simple Slavery ++ integration there), get turned into meat or kept around as a waitress until another ending is triggered.

 

If you do chose to leave, either being sold or freed it would be nice to have the option to come back as a customer as well.

 

 

 

Bugs

 

1 : strange... when exactly ?

 

2 : the service on spike works, as shawn in screenshots. But, for npcs slaves, there is a script which remove them from spike before turning them to bloody remains.

maybe it's that you mentionned ? I know that script is far from perfect. The problem is to make the npc or player invisible and turn in remains, and keep the thing playable;

 

3 : I don't know why. Pama stuff don't work well with tattoos, that's all I know. The script itself uses pama ressources.

 

4 : yeah, I remaked that problem too. Maybe it will be simpler to remove the sex option.

 

 

Quests :

 

Yes, your remark is pertinent, and It will not consume too lot of time to implement.

 

 

Endings :

 

nice suggestions.

 

 

 

On 10/23/2023 at 2:24 AM, R3lS said:

@Leavira Excellent review there.
I've gone through almost all of the Translation and dialogue and fixed them in my own edit (and even added additional ones). I keep finding the odd one that I think I've squashed and then test and find there was a slightly different thing I missed. Most of the bugs I feel like are just a result of what @Delzaron has mentioned in the past as some mistakes or errors in the quest or script generation, which sort of trickles down through. Seems to be a bit difficult to fix without a complete rework. Those Endings options are quite well thought out. I would agree that it seems a missed opportunity for an ending with Carnificina as the one with the PC on her plate even after all the other things your character has done, after all Carni is still a Vampire and she recognizes the PC's quality from the start... The meatslave quests are also buggy at least in what I have tested, seems they sometimes work from the sleep action, but sometimes just say there are no quests. 

 

the rep quest when player returned as slave and chosen meat girl ?

Sounds like the script chooseing slaves don't recognize empty spaces in the array...

[Delzaron]

On 10/22/2023 at 7:56 PM, Leavira said:

So I understand you are done with the mod in terms of development but though that now I have had a chance to go through it properly I would leave some thoughts and feedback should you ever come back to it.

 

Bugs:

 

So I have only really run into four bugs with the last version; 

 

1. Recruiting Camila, the conversation never starts, the quest pop up, listen to the conversation comes up and then nothing, have to skip that section with the console command every time.

 

2. Serving the VIP, when serving a slave from the spit they don't move to the spike, just fall to the floor limp, you can make them vanish with the butchers knife afterwards if you get to the end of that part  and need to clean up.

 

3. CTD after serving a slave for the VIP quest, this is an intermittent one, doesn't happen every time but more often than not it takes several reloads to get past it.

 

4. Riftens Steward, she doesn't go to her room or trigger a scene with you, you just have to talk to her three times and thats it.

 

Translation:

 

So there are a couple of translation issues as far as I can tell, most are easily ignored save for one, that is when doing the waitress quest the customer will ask for 'steak' when they want 'stew' (at least that is the item you have to get them to advance the quest), is somewhat annoying when your sure you have what they asked for only to be told its not.

 

Next time I have this mod on (currently testing builds) I will see about making a full list and corrections for the English translations if that would be of any help.

 

Gameplay:

 

So while I do enjoy the mod overall I have found that the restriction to the 1h sword can be a pain if you have built your character around something other than 1h or magic (magic working since you can loot clothing from the vigilantes and just use the Butcher's Knife on dead bodies). If you built your character as a 2h or bow user then the combat you have to do for recruiting one of the staff and for getting meat can be a pain in the neck. Having the Butcher's Knife be an enchanted Knife and not a weapon and you being allowed to pick a weapon I think would make the gameplay of the mood feel a lot smoother. 

 

Quests:

 

The meat pie sample quest is such a pain in the neck, it is so random who will take them and not, even had times where the inn keeper in Riften was refusing to take any, it would be better as a reworked into being sent to give free samples to specific people, say Helga at the Bunk House, Bee and Bards Inn Keeper, the Steward and Maven Blackbrier.

 

The Endings:

 

So when you have done all the initial quests and are given your choice I feel like there are a couple options that could be added when you are being asked to make your choice;

 

"Can't I keep working here?" This one being that you just continue to do the other quests for a time, either until one of the other endings comes up (such as being picked for the VIP) or until after certain conditions are meet you end up on the Mistress's plate or sold off without input from you.

 

"What would you prefer Mistress", this one takes the choice away from you and depending on a few factors that are measured over the mod you are either sold off or traded for new meat slaves (Simple Slavery ++ integration there), get turned into meat or kept around as a waitress until another ending is triggered.

 

If you do chose to leave, either being sold or freed it would be nice to have the option to come back as a customer as well.

 

 

 

Endings.

I'll add an option to let Carni choose for you.

No option to stay. If you stay, you can't make other adventures... so, it can't be an option.

 

I'll add an option to voluntary return to mistress, as customer, or as worker (you'll be enslaved again).

 

On 10/23/2023 at 2:24 AM, R3lS said:

@Leavira Excellent review there.
I've gone through almost all of the Translation and dialogue and fixed them in my own edit (and even added additional ones). I keep finding the odd one that I think I've squashed and then test and find there was a slightly different thing I missed. Most of the bugs I feel like are just a result of what @Delzaron has mentioned in the past as some mistakes or errors in the quest or script generation, which sort of trickles down through. Seems to be a bit difficult to fix without a complete rework. Those Endings options are quite well thought out. I would agree that it seems a missed opportunity for an ending with Carnificina as the one with the PC on her plate even after all the other things your character has done, after all Carni is still a Vampire and she recognizes the PC's quality from the start... The meatslave quests are also buggy at least in what I have tested, seems they sometimes work from the sleep action, but sometimes just say there are no quests. 

 

Please bring me back more elements.

 

I'll release soon a new version of FTD.

I'll take a time to work a last time on Ravenous, and implement some of the ideas suggested above.

Edited October 28, 2023 by Delzaron

[R3lS]

On 10/25/2023 at 2:43 AM, Delzaron said:

the rep quest when player returned as slave and chosen meat girl ?

Sounds like the script chooseing slaves don't recognize empty spaces in the array...

Oh, interesting, if it does have to do with the array. I will test it again, I thought it could also be from an external mod that changes sleep. so I've reset my mods.

The arrays for slave slots are a bit weird still. mostly if the player tries to move npcs in the slots, the array can (not always) break when the npcs get the "store slave" command. The npcs tend to run to an empty cell, and the array seems to ... shuffle? I've looked at how arrays are supposed to be written in papyrus and . . . that is a mess of a way to use arrays and while loops (I understand why/how it works but, Bethesda wtf is that, lol, they could have made that part of their script language way better)

 

On 10/22/2023 at 1:56 PM, Leavira said:

1. Recruiting Camila, the conversation never starts, the quest pop up, listen to the conversation comes up and then nothing, have to skip that section with the console command every time.

Yea, this quest bugs when you try to bring Carnificina to Camilla, usually everything is fine until you get back to the cave, the scene that is supposed to play when you bring the NPCs together, just never seems to run. even after trying to move the NPCs around in the cave.

 

On 10/25/2023 at 2:43 AM, Delzaron said:

Pama stuff don't work well with tattoos, that's all I know.

I never have a problem with tattoos and this mod, or pama's mods, interesting that others do.

[R3lS]

2 hours ago, Delzaron said:

Please bring me back more elements.

 

I'll release soon a new version of FTD.

I'll take a time to work a last time on Ravenous, and implement some of the ideas suggested above.

To go with the ideas that have already been posted. If there will be an ending with Carnificina having the player as a meal, could be maybe worked into a scene at the table in the VIP room, and include the other restaurant npcs ( Camilla, Armina, Simza, and even Lamae ). maybe even have the player find/fetch a selection of appetizers, have Carni choose one, then gather the rest of the staff for a little party.

 

[Delzaron]

7 minutes ago, R3lS said:

To go with the ideas that have already been posted. If there will be an ending with Carnificina having the player as a meal, could be maybe worked into a scene at the table in the VIP room, and include the other restaurant npcs ( Camilla, Armina, Simza, and even Lamae ). maybe even have the player find/fetch a selection of appetizers, have Carni choose one, then gather the rest of the staff for a little party.

 

 

I'll avoid this scene.

 

All the npcs except carni seems to bug with the VIP room. The torfeast quest was rewritten in fact to avoid that massive bug.

So, no, no way I'll use the mod npcs in the vip room for a scene.

[R3lS]

13 minutes ago, Delzaron said:

All the npcs except carni seems to bug with the VIP room. The torfeast quest was rewritten in fact to avoid that massive bug.

So, no, no way I'll use the mod npcs in the vip room for a scene.

Interesting, is it a bug with pathfinding? they have all wandered into the VIP room at some point in any test runs I have done. Camilla in my playthroughs has a tendency to sit in the VIP room on the benches around the room. Armina doesn't seem to wander in that often, Carni definitely does, and obviously Simza has no problems with the room. Lamae always bugs out and never stays in the fort, just seems to follow for the sidequest, then leaves and never comes back (I assume she returns to Solitude).

[Delzaron]

19 hours ago, R3lS said:

Oh, interesting, if it does have to do with the array. I will test it again, I thought it could also be from an external mod that changes sleep. so I've reset my mods.

The arrays for slave slots are a bit weird still. mostly if the player tries to move npcs in the slots, the array can (not always) break when the npcs get the "store slave" command. The npcs tend to run to an empty cell, and the array seems to ... shuffle? I've looked at how arrays are supposed to be written in papyrus and . . . that is a mess of a way to use arrays and while loops (I understand why/how it works but, Bethesda wtf is that, lol, they could have made that part of their script language way better)

 

Yea, this quest bugs when you try to bring Carnificina to Camilla, usually everything is fine until you get back to the cave, the scene that is supposed to play when you bring the NPCs together, just never seems to run. even after trying to move the NPCs around in the cave.

 

I never have a problem with tattoos and this mod, or pama's mods, interesting that others do.

 

About Camille quest, there is bug dialogue lines for Carni and Camille. Just talk to them.

Use T if the actors are lazy. It will make them move to their spot markers for the scene (start at stage 40)

 

Here's the script about the store slave.

Maybe you could help me improve it.

 

 

;=== Slaves management scripts ===

int Property SlaveCount = 0 Auto Conditional
Faction property a1RMeatSlaveFaction auto

;gère le stockage et le destockage des esclaves.

Function AddSlave(actor ToBeAssigned)

    ToBeAssigned.addtofaction(a1RMeatSlaveFaction)
    
    ; Find an empty spot in the array
    int i = StockSlave.length
    int pos = -1
    while i
        i-=1
        Actor a = StockSlave.getActorReference()
        if !a || a.isDead()
            pos = i
            i = 0
        endIf
    endWhile
    if pos==-1
        ; No empty slots
        debug.notification("No space available")
        return
    endIf

    StockSlave[pos].forceRefTo(toBeAssigned)
    debug.notification(toBeAssigned.getDisplayName() + "affected in Slaves stocks")

    SlaveCount += 1
    debug.notification("Slaves in stocks : " + SlaveCount)

EndFunction

Function RemoveSlave(Actor theActor)
    int i = StockSlave.length
    while i
            i-=1
            if StockSlave.getActorReference() == theActor
                StockSlave.clear()

               SlaveCount -= 1
               debug.notification("Slaves in stocks : " + SlaveCount)

                return
            endIf
    endWhile

endFunction

ReferenceAlias[] property TravelSlave auto
ReferenceAlias[] property StockSlave auto
ReferenceAlias property Slave01 auto
ReferenceAlias property Slave02 auto
ReferenceAlias property Slave03 auto
ReferenceAlias property Slave04 auto
ReferenceAlias property Slave05 auto
ReferenceAlias property Slave06 auto
ReferenceAlias property Slave07 auto
ReferenceAlias property Slave08 auto

Function AddTravelSlaveSlave(actor ToBeAssigned)

    ToBeAssigned.addtofaction(a1RMeatSlaveFaction)

    ; Find an empty spot in the array
    int i = TravelSlave.length
    int pos = -1
    while i
        i-=1
        Actor a = TravelSlave.getActorReference()
        if !a || a.isDead()
            pos = i
            i = 0
        endIf
    endWhile
    if pos==-1
        ; No empty slots
        debug.notification("No space available")
        return
    endIf
   TravelSlave[pos].forceRefTo(toBeAssigned)
    debug.notification(toBeAssigned.getDisplayName() + "affected as Travel Slave")
    SlaveCount += 1
EndFunction

Function RemoveTravelSlave(Actor theActor)
    int i = TravelSlave.length
    while i
            i-=1
            if TravelSlave.getActorReference() == theActor
                TravelSlave.clear()
                return
            endIf
    endWhile
    debug.notification("Slave not found")
    SlaveCount -= 1
endFunction