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6 hours ago, zarantha said:

Papyrus logs aren't really useful for crashes - they don't log the crash itself, just what it was doing before the crash. They aren't necessarily related.

You can try .NETscriptframework. Sometimes it's obvious what causes the problem when you look at the crash log, mostly you may need someone else to read it.  I'll take a stab at reading it if you like, but I'm no expert in that kind of crash log.

 

Make sure you've got SSE Engine Fixes installed.

Make sure you have HDT SMP installed, or install the DD Hotfix.

Run bodyslide

Make  sure you're on DCL Rev 4 - it has some facegen files that cause CTDs if they are missing.

Run FNIS

 

What's your load order?

If you start a new game with LAL, are you having CTDs in any other scenarios?

Mod developer said to include it.  Everything is up to date and installed and run.  

 As Far as I can tell everything else is working.  With a new game this still crashes.

Godspeed

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11 hours ago, zarantha said:

No, the missing preset is because the groups are LE CBBE body group names. These files from the previous installer have been adjusted for CBBE SE body, but the group fix was not included.  The LE and SE bodyslide files are not compatible - the bodies are different shapes. The CBBE files under the CBBE options in the installer should  be for LE CBBE still, unless someone's done some tinkering with the installer that I'm not aware of. ( @Pfiffy ?)

 

Try this for the slidergroups.

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/99700-devious-devices-se-43/?do=findComment&comment=2438438

 

I've tried the files you linked to (put them into \CalienteTools\Bodyslide\SliderGroups) but unfortunately that didn't solve the problem. I am not sure the group files reference a specific body at all tho.

Looking at cursedloot.xml (from the original 8.4 archive) it seems to me, they only group the slidersets, since there is no body associated with the group itself?

Also some of the files in there (DCLCBBE.xml for example) seem to be slidersets and not groups. I'm not familiar enough with the format so i don't feet confident to edit them all by hand tho.

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15 hours ago, tectonicleader said:

Mod developer said to include it.  Everything is up to date and installed and run.  

 As Far as I can tell everything else is working.  With a new game this still crashes.

 

Mod developer? Kimy is on the LE thread, not this one...

 

I was looking for the actual mods you've got installed, not the plugin list. Some of the issues can be from mods with no plugins.

 

Try sorting your load order with loot.

You've got CBBE and Touched by Dibella, and CBBE is not a requirement for TBD. Pick a body.

Which HDT are you using, the one from the nexus, or the chinese site?

 

You've got a large load order. You probably need to cut it down to only the mods needed for DCL and see if you still crash.

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11 hours ago, l3th4l said:

I've tried the files you linked to (put them into \CalienteTools\Bodyslide\SliderGroups) but unfortunately that didn't solve the problem. I am not sure the group files reference a specific body at all tho.

Looking at cursedloot.xml (from the original 8.4 archive) it seems to me, they only group the slidersets, since there is no body associated with the group itself?

Also some of the files in there (DCLCBBE.xml for example) seem to be slidersets and not groups. I'm not familiar enough with the format so i don't feet confident to edit them all by hand tho.

Ok, I see what you're saying. The main issues have been with the DD devices, I don't recall too much complaining about the missing presets for the DCL specific clothing.

 

You can create a group in BodySlide using group manager. That will add the presets, but you might still get clipping. If you still have clipping, you'll need to fix it manually. I think the DCL outfits are being worked on.

 

For just the preset part, you should be able to follow the instructions I provided here for someone to do the same thing for dd and bhunp. It's the same principle.

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/99700-devious-devices-se-43/?do=findComment&comment=2914818

 

Edit: I'm just about done with the 3bbb conversions. I can add the CBBE body to the slidergroup as well, I think.

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10 hours ago, zarantha said:

Mod developer? Kimy is on the LE thread, not this one...

 

I was looking for the actual mods you've got installed, not the plugin list. Some of the issues can be from mods with no plugins.

 

Try sorting your load order with loot.

You've got CBBE and Touched by Dibella, and CBBE is not a requirement for TBD. Pick a body.

Which HDT are you using, the one from the nexus, or the chinese site?

 

You've got a large load order. You probably need to cut it down to only the mods needed for DCL and see if you still crash.

Load order is sorted on loot already.  TBD is gutted 3bbb overrides its just there for body references on some outfits outside of DD.  The load order has many flagged ESL files from before DCL was installed. I could try just running stuff for DCL but I probably couldn't get the game to run like that without wiping everything.

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8 hours ago, tectonicleader said:

Load order is sorted on loot already.  TBD is gutted 3bbb overrides its just there for body references on some outfits outside of DD.  The load order has many flagged ESL files from before DCL was installed. I could try just running stuff for DCL but I probably couldn't get the game to run like that without wiping everything.

 

First, DD is on 4.3, you shouldn't use DCL 8.4 with DD 4.1. The new AIO can actually be downloaded from the download page for a change, Kimy recently updated it with the new version.

 

Second, you've got FNIS 7.5.1 and FNIS creature 7.6, I can't tell if you're reusing the folder and just not updating the folder names, or if you're really down rev. You only need one, FNIS or FNIS XXL. Disable or uninstall one of them, it's only extra clutter. (This is nitpicky, you're free to ignore it :) )

 

Third, zaz animation pack 8.0 cbbe is a text file for the link to download the zaz 8 pack. you don't need to install it. (This is nitpicky, you're free to ignore it :) )

 

Fourth, too many animations can cause random CTDs as well as prevent your game from loading. Try getting rid of all the poser packs.

 

Last, yes, you would likely need to start a new game and get to the point where you see the CTDs. This should be done with only DCL's requirements, doesn't matter if the other mods are esm, esl, esp, or espfe. Unfortunately, that's the only way to find out if you've got a conflict or if you're missing something sometimes. After you figure out what the problem is, and have fixed it, then you can decide if you're going back to your original game or continue on the new game. Depends  on what you have had to remove.

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5 hours ago, mikey1979 said:

Where are the 5 key fragments that are used to open the slaver chastity belt and how are you supposed to know where they are????? Is there a quest tied to this particular device? Very, very very frustrating................

Try looking on the LE thread for things like this. Looks like this is your question and answer:

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/33986-deviously-cursed-loot-v84-2020-02-13/?do=findComment&comment=2399494

 

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11 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

First, DD is on 4.3, you shouldn't use DCL 8.4 with DD 4.1. The new AIO can actually be downloaded from the download page for a change, Kimy recently updated it with the new version.

 

Second, you've got FNIS 7.5.1 and FNIS creature 7.6, I can't tell if you're reusing the folder and just not updating the folder names, or if you're really down rev. You only need one, FNIS or FNIS XXL. Disable or uninstall one of them, it's only extra clutter. (This is nitpicky, you're free to ignore it :) )

 

Third, zaz animation pack 8.0 cbbe is a text file for the link to download the zaz 8 pack. you don't need to install it. (This is nitpicky, you're free to ignore it :) )

 

Fourth, too many animations can cause random CTDs as well as prevent your game from loading. Try getting rid of all the poser packs.

 

Last, yes, you would likely need to start a new game and get to the point where you see the CTDs. This should be done with only DCL's requirements, doesn't matter if the other mods are esm, esl, esp, or espfe. Unfortunately, that's the only way to find out if you've got a conflict or if you're missing something sometimes. After you figure out what the problem is, and have fixed it, then you can decide if you're going back to your original game or continue on the new game. Depends  on what you have had to remove.

It was the old DD stuff there where many of them now it all runs much smoother  Thank you.

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Hey folks, I've run DCL successfully over several different mod setups/play-throughs, everything working great. However, ever since I updated to 8.4 it has had issues. Everything seems to work, except when it starts a sexlab scene from a DCL trigger, everyone just stands there with my character unable to move and it doesn't start the scene. On rare occasion it might start after a long delay, but most of the time even when I've left it sit for 5+ minutes, nothing. I've tried several high script load troubleshoots, a lot of searching for answers, testing load orders/compatibility/installs/etc and gone as far as wiping everything (game install, all mods, files, etc) to start with a fresh slate and only installed the hard requirements for DCL. Same issues.

 

Does anyone have any ideas of what might be causing the problems or other avenues of troubleshooting I should look into? Anyone had similar problems? I don't expect magic solutions, but I've just about run out of avenues to pursue to fix it. I'm considering installing LE skyrim to test if that version would work (though I suspect things would be the same). Any help is appreciated.

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21 hours ago, tectonicleader said:

I will sacrifice myself on the 3bbb.  Anything I should look out for or do?

I haven't been able to test everything myself, so let me know what issues you see. I'll try to fix it if I can.

 

The only thing bugging me right now is the formal affair heels. For some reason the hose likes to flap like it's not anchored around the calf and knees. If I don't mess with it, the hose just clips big time, and only shows up to around the knees.

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20 hours ago, tectonicleader said:

Now I am CTD in the prison after talking to the foreman at the start of the day once the conversation ends the game crashes.  Any Ideas?  Also offering sex in the prison isn't working.

Are you speeding through the conversation. For various reasons, we've found it best to let the conversation proceed at it's own pace.

Did you get SSE Engine Fixes installed?

 

Looking through the LE forum, it seems like there's some stability issues. I don't know if they've been worked out yet.

I haven't gotten to dagonar yet, so I'm not sure how much more I can help.

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11 hours ago, Icehawk55082 said:

Hey folks, I've run DCL successfully over several different mod setups/play-throughs, everything working great. However, ever since I updated to 8.4 it has had issues. Everything seems to work, except when it starts a sexlab scene from a DCL trigger, everyone just stands there with my character unable to move and it doesn't start the scene. On rare occasion it might start after a long delay, but most of the time even when I've left it sit for 5+ minutes, nothing. I've tried several high script load troubleshoots, a lot of searching for answers, testing load orders/compatibility/installs/etc and gone as far as wiping everything (game install, all mods, files, etc) to start with a fresh slate and only installed the hard requirements for DCL. Same issues.

 

Does anyone have any ideas of what might be causing the problems or other avenues of troubleshooting I should look into? Anyone had similar problems? I don't expect magic solutions, but I've just about run out of avenues to pursue to fix it. I'm considering installing LE skyrim to test if that version would work (though I suspect things would be the same). Any help is appreciated.

It's known that SexLab itself is slow to start scenes. Not sure why it's slow for you after updating to 8.4, but it's probably not the upgrade itself. I haven't seen much difference between the two versions. If the framework is slow, mods dependent on the framework will be slower.

 

Have you rerun FNIS?

You could also try resetting and re-registering the animations in SexLab and SLAL.

 

I usually bring up the menu or the console, or both (one after the other) when a scene starts - often that will help the scene startup to finish somehow, someway.

 

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/91861-sexlab-framework-se-163-beta-8-november-22nd-2019/

Known Issues:

  • Animations take longer to start than normal right now.

 

 

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Hello friends,

 

I'm stuck with the guard issue. I have been reported, but all they say is "Wait... I know you!" and then they don't do anything at all, just keep walking. Any ideas on how to solve this issue? I had Jail Rape installed and uninstalled in order to test if it was conflicting, but it stays the same, still no guard activity.

 

Thank you!

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On 3/5/2020 at 3:43 PM, zarantha said:

Try the new version. CTDing when trying to go through Helgen is likely the facegen issue for some NPCs. Looks like there a few other extra facegen textures in this one, so it should have that fixed.

 

I haven't heard of issues where areas become inaccessible after playing for a while. How many bound girls are you configured for? If you disable them, do you still see the issue?

Seems updating DD fixed some if not all of the issues. I looked in the change log before updating DCUR and didn't see the mod requiring a newer version of DD but I could've missed it

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I just tried a playthrough with all the up to date Sexlab, D.D. and D.C.L. FNIS, the whole deal, and an mot getting any sex animations via D.C.L., but with the same setup, sex animations for all other mods run perfectly. Am I doing something wrong, or is this a bug, or feature?

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hey guys i need some help please, so when i put on the transparent zipsuit i can only see my hand and feet my body is not there! im thinking its something to do with a mesh problem, but i have checked and i have all 7 meshes and all 7 textures? what gives?

zipsuit mesh.png

zipsuit texture.png

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On 3/17/2020 at 12:29 AM, bkeul said:

Hello friends,

 

I'm stuck with the guard issue. I have been reported, but all they say is "Wait... I know you!" and then they don't do anything at all, just keep walking. Any ideas on how to solve this issue? I had Jail Rape installed and uninstalled in order to test if it was conflicting, but it stays the same, still no guard activity.

 

Thank you!

Are you male?
https://www.loverslab.com/topic/33986-deviously-cursed-loot-v84-2020-02-13/?do=findComment&comment=2550369

 

Looks like dcl should be using something different, so if you get wait i know you, it's not dcl?

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