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5 hours ago, Villianize said:

@TrollAutokill So I noticed some things in regards to slavers.

Slavers get stuck being naked if former slaves:
First and foremost if a slave is able to become a slaver they immediately strip their clothing when you try to get them to train slaves. Unfortunately since they are no longer your slave you cant tell them to put their clothes back on [RIP PC arousal]. I believe this might also happen with NPCs who arent slaves as well (the becoming naked when training)

Could that be linked to the naked outfit? I will check.

 

5 hours ago, Villianize said:

DoM has a Soft Incompatibility with TDF Aroused Rape:
Lastly when a slaver is training a slave they don't seem to have an "end state" or "goal" for training. What I mean by this is lets say my main goal for a slaver with "teach these slaves to fear the whip" was just to make them stop running away and have high Resignation, The slavers pretty much keep whipping away but because of this they wont stop. In my game trying to intervene to tell the slaver anything is pretty much useless because when the slaver is talked to, they end the convo and immediately get back to whipping the slaves. It creates a Soft Incompatibility with TDF Rape because if the slaver is aroused enough to advance on the PC they'll attempt an advance when the PC talks to them(which is TDF's main incentive), then stop the advance to whip the slave creating a situation where the PC is trying to escape the NPC's sex advance, and immediately start a fight.

Yes, that's a known problem. It will be fixed next time I update the slavers part.

 

5 hours ago, Villianize said:


Slavers are unable to be talked to once they've been ordered to train a slave:
Beyond TDF having a soft incompatibility, theres no way to talk to slavers once they start whipping slaves unless the PC tells the Slaver to hand over their slaves, or in some manner speed through dialogues in under 4-5 seconds to get them to exit the train slave state. I'll attach a video below showing a bit of what Im talking about.

This is the same problem as above. Slavers are missing rest time and end state.

 

Thanks for reporting.

 

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Try this:

  1. Take a new slave
  2. On the initial "you're going to wear this" topic, give them a zaz gag
  3. Tab out of the dialogue. (I did this by accident)
  4. talk to them again to complete the enslavement
  5. Notice that the "you're a slave now" topic is now unavailable because of the gag
  6. Watch as your new slave wanders off, with you unable to stop it because you can't give any orders since the gag prevents them from replying.

Fun fun fun.

 

(There is a workaround: beat them up until you get the "enslave slave" option, then use the "wear this" dialogue to remove the gag. Then you can finish enslaving them, and put the gag back on after).

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2 hours ago, DocClox said:

Try this:

  1. Take a new slave
  2. On the initial "you're going to wear this" topic, give them a zaz gag
  3. Tab out of the dialogue. (I did this by accident)
  4. talk to them again to complete the enslavement
  5. Notice that the "you're a slave now" topic is now unavailable because of the gag
  6. Watch as your new slave wanders off, with you unable to stop it because you can't give any orders since the gag prevents them from replying.

Fun fun fun.

 

(There is a workaround: beat them up until you get the "enslave slave" option, then use the "wear this" dialogue to remove the gag. Then you can finish enslaving them, and put the gag back on after).

Could be solved with a hotkey to open slave inventory. That could also help in other situations.

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20 hours ago, TrollAutokill said:

Slavers get stuck being naked if former slaves:
First and foremost if a slave is able to become a slaver they immediately strip their clothing when you try to get them to train slaves.

hsh trainers get that bug too

20 hours ago, TrollAutokill said:

Could that be linked to the naked outfit? I will check.

when it happens in hsh, doesn't matter if they skipped the naked outfit, they still strip when they get told who to train

 

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8 hours ago, kitehxh said:

help me guys,i have no idea why my slave always get tied when i command to wait or do something :( its just sitting tied up

Have you tried to actually tie the slave up with the dialog option "I'm going to tie you up" (use "lets get the chains out", not the rope option) and right after "Remove restraints" and make sure there are no "zbf cuffs" or other ZAP restraining devices in her inventory beforehand or after. That fixes it for me, when a slave gets confused about being tied up or not.

 

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Now that I have player a couple hours I have found two minor issues (Version 2.9.0 with PAH 8.1.2):

  • How do I have sex with my slaves? They are all telling me "I never had lesbian sex" despite the fact, that I trained their vaginal, oral and anal to 100% myself. (And last time I checked, the PC was a girl herself.) One of them even tells me from time to time that she would be honored to be initiated into lesbian sex by me.
  • They are quite often commenting with "violence is never necessary Mistress!" And if one starts, they all are going to say it in unison. (Seems to be like jawing, if one starts, everybody got to do it :D ) And they don't seem to grasp the situation clearly, had a combat slave comment with "Violence is never necessary" after one of the Bandis got killed by a Draugr in Bleak Falls Barrow. ;D (they are pacifists I get it, but live in Skyrim is not a bed of roses either."

 

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5 hours ago, Jasmine92 said:

Have you tried to actually tie the slave up with the dialog option "I'm going to tie you up" (use "lets get the chains out", not the rope option) and right after "Remove restraints" and make sure there are no "zbf cuffs" or other ZAP restraining devices in her inventory beforehand or after. That fixes it for me, when a slave gets confused about being tied up or not.

 

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Now that I have player a couple hours I have found two minor issues (Version 2.9.0 with PAH 8.1.2):

  • How do I have sex with my slaves? They are all telling me "I never had lesbian sex" despite the fact, that I trained their vaginal, oral and anal to 100% myself. (And last time I checked, the PC was a girl herself.) One of them even tells me from time to time that she would be honored to be initiated into lesbian sex by me.
  • They are quite often commenting with "violence is never necessary Mistress!" And if one starts, they all are going to say it in unison. (Seems to be like jawing, if one starts, everybody got to do it :D ) And they don't seem to grasp the situation clearly, had a combat slave comment with "Violence is never necessary" after one of the Bandis got killed by a Draugr in Bleak Falls Barrow. ;D (they are pacifists I get it, but live in Skyrim is not a bed of roses either."

 

usually it's always there, but the last time I played it was normal, not like this but after I reinstalled all the mods this problem occurred.
maybe zap is causing the error? what should I do?

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I'm still getting slaves locked into the vampire thrall "need to sleep"/"what's happening" dialogue.

 

It clears after a while, and quick jolt of pain normally clears it, but it's still happening. Not sure if that's intentional or not.

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7 hours ago, Jasmine92 said:

Have you tried to actually tie the slave up with the dialog option "I'm going to tie you up" (use "lets get the chains out", not the rope option) and right after "Remove restraints" and make sure there are no "zbf cuffs" or other ZAP restraining devices in her inventory beforehand or after. That fixes it for me, when a slave gets confused about being tied up or not.

 

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Now that I have player a couple hours I have found two minor issues (Version 2.9.0 with PAH 8.1.2):

  • How do I have sex with my slaves? They are all telling me "I never had lesbian sex" despite the fact, that I trained their vaginal, oral and anal to 100% myself. (And last time I checked, the PC was a girl herself.) One of them even tells me from time to time that she would be honored to be initiated into lesbian sex by me.

This is obviously a mistake on my side, will check.

 

7 hours ago, Jasmine92 said:
  • They are quite often commenting with "violence is never necessary Mistress!" And if one starts, they all are going to say it in unison. (Seems to be like jawing, if one starts, everybody got to do it :D ) And they don't seem to grasp the situation clearly, had a combat slave comment with "Violence is never necessary" after one of the Bandis got killed by a Draugr in Bleak Falls Barrow. ;D (they are pacifists I get it, but live in Skyrim is not a bed of roses either."

 

It means we don't have enough conditions on that line, will check.

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Very thanks to Jasmine92 for the Voicepack and bnub345 for the Backport. You People are great?. And of course very, very thanks to TrollAutoKill for this wonderful mod?.

Since there does not seem to be a 8.12 version of PAHE for LE (unless i am missing a Backport somewhere) i will try DOM 2.90 with PAHE 8.1.1. I will report back how it works out.

 

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57 minutes ago, kf05 said:

Very thanks to Jasmine92 for the Voicepack and bnub345 for the Backport. You People are great?. And of course very, very thanks to TrollAutoKill for this wonderful mod?.

Since there does not seem to be a 8.12 version of PAHE for LE (unless i am missing a Backport somewhere) i will try DOM 2.90 with PAHE 8.1.1. I will report back how it works out.

 

2.9.0/8.1.2 has playerfaction in PAHE's plugin while 2.8/8.1  has playerfaction in DoM's.

 

This can be a problem when cleaning slaves from player enemy factions (this cleaning part is always performed independently from the cleaning options).

 

Also the call for help would be screwed.

 

So you will need to use cleaning (option or dialogue) for uniques and spawned (at least when enslaving hostiles) and disable the alarm option.

 

You will still get a lot of error messages for player faction not being set.

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Thanks for your reply. I changed the options the way you told me to do, and it seems to work?. I just enslaved Sapphire from the Thieves Guild which did not work at all at 2.75 because i got a loop of getting expelled from the guild (i´m guild master). Also i had no CTD until now, which certainly is a good thing. I can´t tell if it did break anything  since i just started to use 2.90. But i made a backup of my safes and my whole skyrim installation, so even if shit hit´s the fan i it won´t be the end of the world?. But still, it is only jury rigging and can´t be a final solution, so i will ask at the PAHE SE thread if somebody might be so kind and do a beackport of 8.12.  I will repot back if anything comes up later,

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5 hours ago, TrollAutokill said:

This is obviously a mistake on my side, will check.

Concerning the girl on girl sex flag, since writing it I had success with one of them: with a message telling me she 1) came and b) “that was tight, looks like she was a virgin" that seems to clear it.

 

On that note: is there a way to directly iniate one of the three kinds of sex (vaginal, oral, anal) or is that randomly selected when I use the PAH lines under "strip I am going to have some fun with you“?

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1 hour ago, terrorofmorrowind said:

Anyone know a guid to assign personalities to custom npc's? Kinda like what it already does for Uthgerth the unbroken?

You can look at the .json files that come with the mod and create one for your follower. Name of the file is the refid BaseID of the NPC. Only caveat is that the file gets read only once when you interact with the NPC the first time, so it will not overwrite already generated values. (can't remember if there its a "reset" method though via mcm or spell or if that was a plan for a feature update)

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Baseid not refid
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1 hour ago, terrorofmorrowind said:

Anyone know a guid to assign personalities to custom npc's? Kinda like what it already does for Uthgerth the unbroken?

 

Go to

D:\Games\steamapps\common\Skyrim Special Edition\Data\SKSE\Plugins\StorageUtilData\Diary Of Mine

 

Copy one of the already existing json files into a different folder and rename it after the ID of your follower, which will change once your load order change so be mindful to that Dunno if it really effects the file but i would assume it does logically speaking it should. Once encountered it doesn't change anymore like Jasime said  so do it before loading into an existing save where you have met the npc.

 

Now edit the values you want with a programm that can save in Json. I only did it with a couple vanilla npc´s never a modded one but the idea is the same.

 

 

Edit: and don't forget that there is a full name section in the file itself, don't forget to change that too.

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If you go the punsih-way you can choose things like "Open your Mouth for what it´s good for" or similar. I also like to use SLEN for Sexual interactions (but the options are limited depending on the relationship-level). Also it seems to be a Tag -Thing. Some Animatioins have mixed tags, like "oral, aggressive, vaginal Dirty" or things like that, and it seems to only take the first tag into account.

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1 minute ago, kf05 said:

If you go the punsih-way you can choose things like "Open your Mouth for what it´s good for" or similar. I also like to use SLEN for Sexual interactions (but the options are limited depending on the relationship-level). Also it seems to be a Tag -Thing. Some Animatioins have mixed tags, like "oral, aggressive, vaginal Dirty" or things like that, and it seems to only take the first tag into account.

You sure?

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I don't know if its because it counted the foreplay as separate but Carcette got completely deflowered in one sitting. But i am still on the older version, maybe that's why it differs for me rn.

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28 minutes ago, Gukahn said:

You sure?

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I don't know if its because it counted the foreplay as separate but Carcette got completely deflowered in one sitting. But i am still on the older version, maybe that's why it differs for me rn.

About the Foreplay: i have it disabled in SL, because the same thing happend to me like you described, it seems that it also counts the FP for determining the deflrotation(i have Nymra´s Forced Foreplays installed. About the Tags: i don´t have hard proof, but for me it seemed to be the case after i wondered why an animation that supposed to be oral.(in Sl-Options) gave me the message that i deflowerd her pussy. Afer checking the tags in SL i noticed that there were not only Oral but also vaginal tags. i now make a save each time i initiate sex to be able to revert if something goes wrong. not very professional, but effective?.Also i was on 2.75 LE until today, and i did not play 2.90 for very long until now, so id don´t know  if there are changes.

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51 minutes ago, kf05 said:

About the Foreplay: i have it disabled in SL, because the same thing happend to me like you described, it seems that it also counts the FP for determining the deflrotation(i have Nymra´s Forced Foreplays installed. About the Tags: i don´t have hard proof, but for me it seemed to be the case after i wondered why an animation that supposed to be oral.(in Sl-Options) gave me the message that i deflowerd her pussy. Afer checking the tags in SL i noticed that there were not only Oral but also vaginal tags. i now make a save each time i initiate sex to be able to revert if something goes wrong. not very professional, but effective?.Also i was on 2.75 LE until today, and i did not play 2.90 for very long until now, so id don´t know  if there are changes.

Very interesting..  And a reason to avoid foreplay for some time. Damn, just started to using it again ?

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4 hours ago, Jasmine92 said:

On that note: is there a way to directly iniate one of the three kinds of sex (vaginal, oral, anal) or is that randomly selected when I use the PAH lines under "strip I am going to have some fun with you“?

That's not PAHE dialogue.  That's HSH dialogue.  PAHE sex is from "Ok slave" -> "I'm going to have some fun with you", and there, you can specify sex.

 

2 hours ago, Gukahn said:

Copy one of the already existing json files into a different folder and rename it after the ID of your follower, which will change once your load order change so be mindful to that Dunno if it really effects the file but i would assume it does logically speaking it should.

No, you need to change the first two digits to "00".  This makes it load order-neutral, but also using the load order identifier breaks it and causes the .json to not be read.

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43 minutes ago, Antiope_Apollonia said:

No, you need to change the first two digits to "00".  This makes it load order-neutral, but also using the load order identifier breaks it and causes the .json to not be read.

Good to know, thanks ?

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11 hours ago, DocClox said:

I'm still getting slaves locked into the vampire thrall "need to sleep"/"what's happening" dialogue.

 

It clears after a while, and quick jolt of pain normally clears it, but it's still happening. Not sure if that's intentional or not.

normal pahe slaves would get this bug if gagged, resetting the slave should clear it...slavers on the other hand either need dom to raise the quest priority assigned to the dialogues Or clear the thrall faction for nords

 

8 hours ago, TrollAutokill said:

2.9.0/8.1.2 has playerfaction in PAHE's plugin while 2.8/8.1  has playerfaction in DoM's.

 

This can be a problem when cleaning slaves from player enemy factions (this cleaning part is always performed independently from the cleaning options).

 

Also the call for help would be screwed.

 

So you will need to use cleaning (option or dialogue) for uniques and spawned (at least when enslaving hostiles) and disable the alarm option.

 

You will still get a lot of error messages for player faction not being set.

player faction? hmm, thought i'd already commented that out at hsh request

5 hours ago, kf05 said:

Thanks for your reply. I changed the options the way you told me to do, and it seems to work?. I just enslaved Sapphire from the Thieves Guild which did not work at all at 2.75 because i got a loop of getting expelled from the guild (i´m guild master). Also i had no CTD until now, which certainly is a good thing. I can´t tell if it did break anything  since i just started to use 2.90. But i made a backup of my safes and my whole skyrim installation, so even if shit hit´s the fan i it won´t be the end of the world?. But still, it is only jury rigging and can´t be a final solution, so i will ask at the PAHE SE thread if somebody might be so kind and do a beackport of 8.12.  I will repot back if anything comes up later,

send us a log if that doesn't clear after sending out my next update

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