Thisisne88 Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 So, I'm having CTDs near whiterun farm. It's consistant no matter what. I've tried almost everthing, installing and reinstalling different crash fixes and running loot. Nothing is fixing it. Log 1 is me trying to run past the problem area, even trying to tcl past it. Doesn't work. Log 0 is me trying to load a game that I saved right after the horses finished with the slave and other npc If there is any help anyone can give I would really appreciate it. Papyrus.0.log Papyrus.1.log
SleepyJim Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 It's possible there's a specific mod causing it, but that area in general is a notorious CTD hotspot. It's apparently very heavy on VRAM around there with the Whiterun exterior, lots of npcs, foggy mountains, two rivers, the giant vs Companions fight on your first visit, etc. It seems that the game crashes when your system combined with original Skyrim's poor memory management can't handle it. I was having the same issue a few months ago and eventually fixed it by changing some of my texture-related mods to reduce the strain on VRAM - skin, clothing, armour, landscape re-textures, that kind of thing. I optimised all my textures with Ordenador, switched to lower quality versions of some, and even removed a few entirely. I kept doing that a bit at a time and tested until I could get through that zone safely. While it won't have been the culprit itself (lots of other people seem to use it without problem) the final change that did the trick for me was removing fair skin and going back to my older female skin textures. I haven't crashed there once since doing that, and could even put a few others I'd removed back in safely as well. It was only when I fixed it I realised the crashes started for me there after installing fair skin in the first place. It was a long, frustrating process, and almost had me give up Skyrim completely, but you might have to try something similar to get to the bottom of it. Good luck.
Thisisne88 Posted April 23, 2018 Author Posted April 23, 2018 8 hours ago, Sladen2019 said: Post your load order. 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 SGHairPackBase.esm 7 7 ApachiiHair.esm 8 8 ApachiiHairFemales.esm 9 9 ApachiiHairMales.esm 10 a SexLab.esm 11 b Devious Devices - Assets.esm 12 c SexLabAroused.esm 13 d Devious Devices - Integration.esm 14 e Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 15 f ZaZAnimationPack.esm 16 10 SexLab - Sexual Fame [SLSF].esm 17 11 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 18 12 CreatureFramework.esm 19 13 HighResTexturePack01.esp 20 14 HighResTexturePack02.esp 21 15 HighResTexturePack03.esp 22 16 SkyUI.esp 23 17 RaceMenu.esp 24 18 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 25 19 Brows.esp 26 1a LovelyHairstylesCE.esp 27 1b SGHairPackAIO.esp 28 1c MilkModNEW.esp 29 1d MilkMod_MilkPumpsFancy.esp 30 1e hydra_slavegirls.esp 31 1f Slaverun_Reloaded.esp 32 20 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp 33 21 KS Hairdo's.esp 34 22 Ultimate NPC Overhaul II.esp 35 23 ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp 36 24 The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp 37 25 FNIS.esp 38 26 LindsMerEyes.esp 39 27 Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp 40 28 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp 41 29 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp 42 2a Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp 43 2b Bijin Wives.esp 44 2c Bijin NPCs.esp 45 2d SBF All In One + DLC.esp 46 2e SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp 47 2f SlaveTats.esp 48 30 BrandingDeviceOfDoom.esp 49 31 SLALAnimObj.esp 50 32 MilkModNEW CF.esp 51 33 MilkModNEW HF.esp 52 34 MilkModNEW ZaZ.esp 53 35 FreckleMania.esp 54 36 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Medium.esp 55 37 Slaverun_Reloaded_Comments.esp 56 38 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp 57 39 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 58 3a SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 59 3b SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp 60 3c SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp 61 3d SOS - Shop.esp 62 3e zzjayHentaisConversions.esp 63 3f XPMSE.esp 64 40 SOSRaceMenu.esp 65 41 UIExtensions.esp 66 42 SLAnimLoader.esp 67 43 SexLabTools.esp 68 44 MoreNastyCritters.esp 69 45 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 3 hours ago, SleepyJim said: It's possible there's a specific mod causing it, but that area in general is a notorious CTD hotspot. It's apparently very heavy on VRAM around there with the Whiterun exterior, lots of npcs, foggy mountains, two rivers, the giant vs Companions fight on your first visit, etc. It seems that the game crashes when your system combined with original Skyrim's poor memory management can't handle it. I was having the same issue a few months ago and eventually fixed it by changing some of my texture-related mods to reduce the strain on VRAM - skin, clothing, armour, landscape re-textures, that kind of thing. I optimised all my textures with Ordenador, switched to lower quality versions of some, and even removed a few entirely. I kept doing that a bit at a time and tested until I could get through that zone safely. While it won't have been the culprit itself (lots of other people seem to use it without problem) the final change that did the trick for me was removing fair skin and going back to my older female skin textures. I haven't crashed there once since doing that, and could even put a few others I'd removed back in safely as well. It was only when I fixed it I realised the crashes started for me there after installing fair skin in the first place. It was a long, frustrating process, and almost had me give up Skyrim completely, but you might have to try something similar to get to the bottom of it. Good luck. Thanks for the detailed response. It makes sense that it might be a texture issue. I'm not sure how to fix that either though. I tried what you said you did and disabled pure skin textures but that didn't help. I can try looking in to what might be more demanding textures. Not sure where to start though.
valcon767 Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Thisisne88 said: 26 1a LovelyHairstylesCE.esp 27 1b SGHairPackAIO.esp i use a different version 28 1c MilkModNEW.esp 29 1d MilkMod_MilkPumpsFancy.esp 34 22 Ultimate NPC Overhaul II.esp 35 23 ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp 36 24 The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp 38 26 LindsMerEyes.esp 45 2d SBF All In One + DLC.esp 50 32 MilkModNEW CF.esp 51 33 MilkModNEW HF.esp 52 34 MilkModNEW ZaZ.esp 53 35 FreckleMania.esp 54 36 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Medium.esp different version 62 3e zzjayHentaisConversions.esp 63 3f XPMSE.esp left in due to out of order 68 44 MoreNastyCritters.esp this should be loaded before XPMSE i deleted all the mods i have in and running in my current load order to try to help narrow down where the issue is coming from. another thing you can try (after moving MNC) is to re-install XPMSE to be absolutely sure that nothing overwrites its skeletons. one other thing you can do is to run Ordenador (https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/12801/) on your textures (you can do it without actually reducing sizes) and let it fix errors. (make sure you have a backup of the mods somewhere first so you can re-install them as they were released)
Grey Cloud Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 16 minutes ago, valcon767 said: another thing you can try (after moving MNC) is to re-install XPMSE to be absolutely sure that nothing overwrites its skeletons. Not sure how this is relevant to CTDs ouside Whiterun. Yes that area is notoriously flaky (and it's meshes rather than textures) but I would look at mods which change or add to the area. For example hydra slavegirls puts people there as does slaverun (I think).
Psalam Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 Thanks for the tip (sleepy Jim) and the link (valcon767).
Sladen2019 Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 It's likely caused by a mod conflict. You are using the Bethesda Hi Res Texture pack but not the Unofficial Patch that was made for it. Unofficial High Resolution Pack A couple nice alternatives are Optimized Vanilla Textures which doesnt need the Unofficial vanilla patch and looks better, or a very different pack called NobleSkyrimMod HD-2K. Textures might be causing some CTDs overall in your game, but if its consistently happening in the same spot, then its likely a mod conflict.
Thisisne88 Posted April 23, 2018 Author Posted April 23, 2018 8 hours ago, valcon767 said: i deleted all the mods i have in and running in my current load order to try to help narrow down where the issue is coming from. another thing you can try (after moving MNC) is to re-install XPMSE to be absolutely sure that nothing overwrites its skeletons. one other thing you can do is to run Ordenador (https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/12801/) on your textures (you can do it without actually reducing sizes) and let it fix errors. (make sure you have a backup of the mods somewhere first so you can re-install them as they were released) I did as you said and moved MNC and ran ordernador and shrunk all my textures by a lot. I'm no longer near the whiterun farms so I am unsure if that is still an issue, but I'm am getting CTDs and a bunch of other points in the game. Pretty often I'll just CTD out of nowehere, and this iis with a lot of the high texture mods uninstalled and shrunk with ordenator. log: I reallhy appreciate you guys trying to help! Papyrus.0.log
Thisisne88 Posted April 23, 2018 Author Posted April 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Sladen2019 said: It's likely caused by a mod conflict. You are using the Bethesda Hi Res Texture pack but not the Unofficial Patch that was made for it. Unofficial High Resolution Pack A couple nice alternatives are Optimized Vanilla Textures which doesnt need the Unofficial vanilla patch and looks better, or a very different pack called NobleSkyrimMod HD-2K. Textures might be causing some CTDs overall in your game, but if its consistently happening in the same spot, then its likely a mod conflict. I tried installing unoffical high resolution patch and it didn't seem to fix the crashing sadly
Thisisne88 Posted April 24, 2018 Author Posted April 24, 2018 I made another post since it's not really about the CTD near whiterun farm, but CTDs everywhere now. https://www.loverslab.com/forum/39-skyrim-technical-support/?do=add
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