Legi0n Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 Hi guys' date=' my english is awful, so excuse me, but i want to ask u couple of questions. First of all, im a newbie in loverslab and i installed oblivion and some plugins yesterday. It works good (actually it crashes sometimes, but not as much as in daggerfall or morrowind, lol) and this one plugin looks really nice, but i cant understand how to start events. I mean i found some Highwaymans on the roads, one of them enslaved me, but now he does nothing (only rape me time after time); how can i found slayer camp or launch some event? I know that some of you will say "go read this topic", but it's really hard with bad english or even with google translate. Thank you for your help, in advance. [/quote'] 1. Get enslaved 2. Wait (~15 min) or, 1. Get enslaved 2. Open console 3. Write: set ichslavequest.tradertoggle to 1 4. Wait (~1 min) or (may not work), 1. Travel to Fort Redman (= slave camp) 2. Get enslaved there Good luck.
navarro Posted November 8, 2012 Posted November 8, 2012 1. Get enslaved 2. Wait (~15 min) or' date=' 1. Get enslaved 2. Open console 3. Write: set ichslavequest.tradertoggle to 1 4. Wait (~1 min) or (may not work), 1. Travel to Fort Redman (= slave camp) 2. Get enslaved there Good luck. [/quote'] It works. Thank you so much.
Nepro Posted November 8, 2012 Posted November 8, 2012 Is female Argonian named Juliet a slave trader? I happened to be captured by a conjurer, but when some mysterious Juliet appeared the conjurer chased her off. /// So Juliet is a slavetrader? Shortly after Juliet started running away from conjurer some guy named Rome or something like that appears as well.
Uriel Posted November 8, 2012 Posted November 8, 2012 ...Argonian named Juliet... Well, that makes a problem between Montague and Capulet a lot clearer.
Ichabod Posted November 8, 2012 Author Posted November 8, 2012 "Is female Argonian named Juliet a slave trader?" Not heard of that NPC before. Not one from here. Apologies for the long time since update. Annoyance called real life beckons. Hopefully I will have the next two encounters ready for this weekend. Fingers crossed.
lurkerfrombelow Posted November 8, 2012 Posted November 8, 2012 Great to hear, will be crossing my fingers as well, hoping to see new encounters soon then Quick question: What exactly can trigger the %chance of enslavement set by the options spell? All sex flagged as rape (including loversRapers, joburg, etc)? Hits by the slaver clubs (or is it a knockdown/out effect like the original ZMCPS)? And just how often/where do these clubs appear, even of e.g. NPCs from Crowded Roads etc? Looking forward to the next revision
Ichabod Posted November 8, 2012 Author Posted November 8, 2012 "What exactly can trigger the %chance of enslavement set by the options spell?" The conditions are the same for each. If your fatigue drops to zero or you get paralysed or made unconscious, you are enslaved. This just adds in an extra condition that needs to be fulfilled. So if you set to 25% and the NPC is not interested (ie Random roll is over 25) then you will not be enslaved on knock out. "All sex flagged as rape (including loversRapers, joburg, etc)?" Any sex will do it as you drop unconscious. "Hits by the slaver clubs (or is it a knockdown/out effect like the original ZMCPS)? And just how often/where do these clubs appear, even of e.g. NPCs from Crowded Roads etc?" They are just fatigue drain clubs and can appear anywhere the standard random 1H Blunt weapon list is used. Some special NPCs will always have it.
lurkerfrombelow Posted November 8, 2012 Posted November 8, 2012 Thanks for the quick answer. It does make me wonder what kind of events would carry the enslavement chance. Any zero-fatigue, paralyze or unconcious even should in theory open up the door for a lot of possibilities... though I can't remember the last time any of those happened during the course of normal play. As for any sex, even consensual, being able to trigger it, that does sound like it could have some strange side effects.. though to be completely honest, it's not like my character engages in consensual sex ever. Let's just say that if sex is happening, chances are there would be no loss of immersion for me if the other party decided to double up and enslave as well
mem4ob4 Posted November 9, 2012 Posted November 9, 2012 Double check me on this folks, but I believe for enslavement to trigger: The player has to be a combat target of the npc/creature. Joburg 1.17 I dont think sets you in combat so a joburg attack would not trigger an enslavement, but any RaperS version should. Mem
lurkerfrombelow Posted November 9, 2012 Posted November 9, 2012 This might be true. I experimented a bit, and I have yet to see a Joburg rape triggering enslavement - despite using the 'realistic' edition where only NPCs of low responsibility will stalk (i.e. the same who would enslave). Any way we can get Joburg and other rapes to trigger possible enslavement? Would add so many more interesting situations
Artslaver Posted November 9, 2012 Posted November 9, 2012 Is female Argonian named Juliet a slave trader? I happened to be captured by a conjurer' date=' but when some mysterious Juliet appeared the conjurer chased her off. /// So Juliet is a slavetrader? Shortly after Juliet started running away from conjurer some guy named Rome or something like that appears as well. [/quote'] I think that Juliet you are asking about is the female argonian from Bravil Underground. Is a npc from the main quest. Do you have Bravil Underground installed?
Ichabod Posted November 9, 2012 Author Posted November 9, 2012 Clarification: Joburg, etc will trigger enslavement but only if you are in combat with something at that time.
gregathit Posted November 9, 2012 Posted November 9, 2012 Clarification: Joburg' date=' etc will trigger enslavement but only if you are in combat with something at that time. [/quote'] I may be missing something here but Joburg is "only" for stalkers. It has nothing at all to do with combat rapes. That is handled by RaperS. Unless you have some customized version of Joburg that has RaperS scripting in it......
morvo Posted November 9, 2012 Posted November 9, 2012 Clarification: Joburg' date=' etc will trigger enslavement but only if you are in combat with something at that time. [/quote'] I may be missing something here but Joburg is "only" for stalkers. It has nothing at all to do with combat rapes. That is handled by RaperS. Unless you have some customized version of Joburg that has RaperS scripting in it...... Indeed, it's not that Joburg triggers the enslavement, it's that the having 0 stamina will trigger it. Since getting raped knocks your stam to 0, if you were in combat with something when you get jumped by a stalker, you can get enslaved as a result of the stamina loss... not actually Joburg, but sort of by proxy.
lurkerfrombelow Posted November 9, 2012 Posted November 9, 2012 Yeah, apparently the conditions for triggering enslavement are set up so a Joburg rape can trigger it if it happens while you are in combat. I'm not 100% sure what other situations exists that would allow enslavement to trigger. If the check is for unconsciousness + NPC in combat with you as target, because that's how the clubs work, it would seem like it's almost incidental that RaperS happens trigger the same conditions (and not a deliberate attempt to make it trigger off forced sex). As far as I'm concerned, the more ways it can trigger (without completely breaking immersion), the better In fact, it'd be awesome to see some mini-encounters and random chance scripts to add the danger of enslavement into more situations. E.g. *Character of low responsibility offers you a drink in the inn you're visiting. Accept and you wake up chained & gagged.. *Sleeping in an 'abandoned' camp out in the open (or a shady inn), only to be ambushed, with a chance of not waking up before you're already shackled. *Slavers with high stealth and extra juiced up slaver clubs, looking for situations to sneak up on your unsuspecting character *Fake guard who wants to arrest you. If you accept and let him shackle you, naively thinking you get to prove your innocence at the guard office, you're in for a surprise as he strips you down and hauls you off in another direction... *etc, etc. Ah, just some suggestions, I do love the sense of danger it has already brought to my games.
Nepro Posted November 10, 2012 Posted November 10, 2012 It'd be if there was some crossover patch which lets you gag slaves from Bravil Underground and Slave Trader Mod without the issues like not being able to start dialogue with the slave.
Polonium Posted November 10, 2012 Posted November 10, 2012 I just wanted to say that this is an excellent mod. Very enjoyable.
gaggedgirl123 Posted November 10, 2012 Posted November 10, 2012 Just realized I've been enjoying this for a while and completely forgot to thank the modder, so here goes: Thanks a lot Icha. Also, if you don't mind me throwing a few suggestions your way, it would be nice if: -your captor could park you somewhere for a small time while he does other things, which of course would give you a chance of escaping -You had a good chance of being enslaved while walking in back alleys at night. -Some mages actually had spells that could knock you out (I know, a bit tough to do) -There were actually some things going on to train your character (slight pain, LOTS of fucking in a small time, things like that) -when you get knocked out, you could wake up locked up somewhere Then again, those are just suggestions, I'm not EXPECTING you to do them, just trying to give you a few ideas in case
varenne Posted November 10, 2012 Posted November 10, 2012 ...Argonian named Juliet... Well' date=' that makes a problem between Montague and Capulet a lot clearer. [/quote'] ROFL! (Mostly likely that one went right over the heads of most kids here.) What's a Montague?
Something Posted November 10, 2012 Posted November 10, 2012 ROFL! (Mostly likely that one went right over the heads of most kids here.) What's a Montague? I assure you that did not sail over my head
Nepro Posted November 10, 2012 Posted November 10, 2012 3. Down on the farm. Farmer needs a hand around the place. Maybe Rallus Odiil or Antus Odiil enslave player after the quest killing field? One of the brothers needs wife and player could be slave until giving birth to rightful heir of the farm, maybe pernamently becoming wife of Rallus Odiil or Antus Odiil.
Vivi Posted November 10, 2012 Posted November 10, 2012 3. Down on the farm. Farmer needs a hand around the place. Maybe Rallus Odiil or Antus Odiil enslave player after the quest killing field? One of the brothers needs wife and player could be slave until giving birth to rightful heir of the farm' date=' maybe pernamently becoming wife of Rallus Odiil or Antus Odiil. [/quote'] Hehe giving birth would be quite interesting for my sissy slaveboy XD (well tecnically "he" is a girl with a cock equipped but still). Anyways, i must say i love the ideas from both lurkerfrombelow and gaggedgirl123 , they all sounds nice. Just imagine as your character would get trained in certain skills as gaggedgirl123 mentioned (the slavemaker game got some nice ideas) and your char's market value would increase, and if the owner would get bored of your toon he could just sell him/her to some1 else or back to the auction baby (or just kills your char as bad ending), would be nice feature for the future auction Ichabod mentioned. Its just a few extra ideas, or extra complicated ideas maybe a better term hehe, well i just let my dirty mind ran too far ahead i guess XD
Ichabod Posted November 10, 2012 Author Posted November 10, 2012 Cheers all. Suggestions always welcome. I have plans for the sleeping danger. Makes buying that house more worthwhile. I like the dodgy/fake guard idea. That could slide into Rough Justice very well. Although I fancy having dark alleys being dangerous, there is not too much opportunity in Cyrodiil. All the cities are heavily guarded with x-ray vision guards and any fights tend to drag in a small army of them. Some form of trap for the distracted/unobservant player could be a possibility. "Some mages actually had spells that could knock you out" They do. Paralysis counts towards enslavement whether it is from a spell or poison. They need to be within a certain distance to take advantage of your weak moment naturally.
Ichabod Posted November 10, 2012 Author Posted November 10, 2012 VERSION 0.5 UP. Do not forget the Patch file. Rough Justice and Dog Days added. Tweaked the slaver camp to help those having 'nothing happens' issues. Added in a check to Pellham's if you end up there a second time via the slavers. 30 and 60 second event times added to the Settings spell.
Nepro Posted November 10, 2012 Posted November 10, 2012 !Ichabod you're the greatest!!! Thanks for the update. :D
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