huntressaela Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 I have run into an issue and for the life of me cannot figure out why it's happening. My PC looks like this: Spoiler For reference, the body I've built in Bodyslide looks like this: With an extremely nipped in waist that is NOT how I built the body in BS. I have run into this issue before as well, using UUNP (I'm using CBBE atm, with a personally edited preset based on CBBE Curvy). Does anyone know why this is happening? This waist issue persists when nude and wearing clothing, even vanilla clothing, though when wearing modded Bodyslide prisoner clothes it is more noticeable. PLS HELP I WILL REWARD YOU WITH SEXY SCREENIES. Tati just wants to be more realistically proportioned, y'all.
myuhinny Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 Too many weight watchers and slim Jim's. Other then that all we can do is guess without a load order.
Ernest Lemmingway Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 Delete the current character meshes and rebuild them in BS. The old meshes likely weren't overwritten properly and instead were merged by the game.
huntressaela Posted February 23, 2018 Author Posted February 23, 2018 Apologies about not including LO in the first post; I didn't know how/didn't know if it was relevant. I'll just include it with all inquiries from now on. Load Order from MO: Spoiler Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm SexLab.esm Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm Campfire.esm Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm hdtHighHeel.esm RSkyrimChildren.esm WM Flora Fixes.esp Heels Sound.esm ETaC - RESOURCES.esm Havok Breast Physic.esm Cutting Room Floor.esp SkyUI.esp SafeAutoSave.esp Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp Vividian - Extended Weathers.esp IcePenguinWorldMap.esp BVFE_Serana.esp AHZmoreHUD.esp UIExtensions.esp AddItemMenu2.esp FISS.esp AMatterOfTime.esp Atlas Compass Tweaks.esp Auto Unequip Ammo.esp Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp RelightingSkyrim_Legendary.esp Palaces Castles Enhanced.esp ETaC - Complete.esp RealisticRoomRental.esp Bathing in Skyrim - Realistic Room Rental.esp CraftableCrownHelmets.esp LegacyoftheDragonborn.esp BetterQuestObjectives.esp SOS - Addons.esp ClamsDropPearls.esp Dogs Into Huskies.esp BetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.esp BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp FNIS.esp GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp LearnAlchemyFromRecipes.esp Brows.esp JiubQuestMarkers.esp Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp Snazzy Furniture and Clutter Overhaul.esp ELE_Legendary_Lite.esp Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp 3DNPC.esp Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp SFCO - LotD Patch.esp Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp Skyrim Romance Animated.esp AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp NPC_Overhaul_V_3_.esp SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.esp DA_Skyship.esp DBM_DASkyship_Addon.esp RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp Complete Crafting_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp Disparity.esp Immersive Whiterun.esp ETaC - Complete LoS Patch.esp Immersive Solstheim.esp Immersive Citizens - RRR patch.esp Havok Breast Physic.esp Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp hearthfireextended.esp Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp UnblockActivateNoWereNoMap.esp Point The Way.esp Immersive Weapons.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp DBM_WAF_CCF_CCOR_Patch.esp DovahBlingJewelryReplacer.esp Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp Imperious - Disparity Compatibility Patch.esp BetterQuestObjectives-AFTPatch.esp JaxonzSmartLooter.esp PCE - Relighting Skyrim.esp PCE - SFCO Patch.esp RealisticWaterTwo.esp Thieves Guild Requirements.esp TheChoiceIsYours.esp SkyrimsUniqueTreasures.esp Laundry.esp Luggage.esp SMIM-Merged-All.esp Atlas Legendary.esp AetheriumSwordsnArmor.esp RDO - iAFT Patch.esp Horses of Skyrim.esp Tentapalooza.esp Tentapalooza Bathing in Skyrim Patch.esp imp_helm_legend.esp aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp Convenient Horses.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp SL01AmuletsSkyrim.esp ETaC - Complete CRF Patch.esp DBM_IWIA_Patch.esp RRR_3DNPC-Patch.esp Bring Out Your Dead - Legendary Edition.esp Weathered Road Signs - CRF.esp ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp SLPrivacy.esp BR_HoodCirclets.esp PCE - Immersive Citizens AI Overhaul Patch.esp Bijin AIO.esp HFDecorativeDolls.esp Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp IB - All-in-One.esp Aranea.esp BetterQuestObjectives-AMBSkyforgePatch.esp HearthFire Display Case Fix.esp 3DNPC Alternative Locations.esp PCE - SPO Patch.esp PCE - 3DNPC Patch.esp DBM_AmuletsOfSkyrim_Patch.esp DBM_CRF_Patch.esp PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp TimingIsEverything.esp The Manipulator.esp PilgrimsDelight.esp Elisif Makeover.esp JaxonzEnhGrab.esp Illustrious HDT Cloaks.esp dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp more plants all extra.esp PCE - USLEEP+CRF Patch.esp Sneak Tools.esp Fresh Faces - USLEEP.esp DBM - ETaC Complete Patch.esp DwemApart.esp PCE - Legacy of the Dragonborn Patch.esp Jewelry.esp Accessories.esp Dawnguard&VolkiharArtifactsQuests.esp Gildergreen Regrown.esp NotSoFast-MageGuild.esp NotSoFast-MainQuest.esp Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp Males of Skyrim.esp SL01AmuletsSkyrimDGDB_Outfit_CCOR.esp College of Winterhold NPC Impovement.esp Perk Points at Skill Levels 50-75-100.esp ICOW Patch.esp RND_AnimalLoot.esp RSChildren - CRF Patch.esp Thief skills rebalance for Ordinator.esp moveitLWT.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp WondersofWeather.esp WetandCold.esp WetandCold - Ashes.esp WMFF Clams Drop Pearls Patch.esp WM Trap Fixes.esp WarmongerArmory_Vanilla.esp WarmongerArmory_DLC.esp WarmongerArmory_LeveledList.esp XPMSE.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp SmartNoMoreStupidDogDGHF.esp Chesko_WearableLantern.esp Beards.esp The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp TheEyesOfBeauty.esp KS Hairdos - HDT.esp KS Hairdo's.esp AzarHairPonyTail 03 - Havok.esp Aurora - Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp BloodBarrels.esp CollegeApplication.esp ThaneWeaponsReborn.esp RM Replacers - Forsworn SoS.esp studentex.esp Vampire_NoSunDamage_Hoods&Helmets.esp DBM_DGE_Patch.esp Dwemer Goggles & Scouter.esp DBM_RSChildren.esp Dual Sheath Redux.esp Elemental Staves.esp IHSS.esp LSFX-Audiosettings.esp Mage Outfit Texture Overhaul.esp ORM-Arvak.esp prettypotions.esp RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Sorted.esp Saeri_AetherialCrown.esp StormcloakArmorRevival_GuardFix.esp Thane Weapons Reborn - NotSoFast-MainQuest patch.esp RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp PrinceandPauper.esp RSChildren - Complete.esp Prince and Pauper - RS Children and 3DNPCs.esp RSChildren Patch - USLEEP.esp Footprints.esp JaxonzRenamer.esp 12FemaleBrows.esp SoapRetex_BIS.esp FollowerAsCompanion.esp PCE - Marked Droppable Barenziah Stones.esp PCE - Royal Armory Patch.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuOverlays.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp FloppySOS.esp ETaC - Complete RS Patch.esp RND_ETaC-Patch.esp DBM_RND_Patch.esp DBM_RoyalArmory_Patch.esp DBM_SCRR_Patch.esp hothtrooper44_ArmorPatch.esp UNP Jewelry Variants.esp LeatherSandals.esp SLAnimLoader.esp NibblesAnimObjects.esp SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp SexLab Cumshot.esp VindictusMixRobes.esp Accessories and Outfits.esp Pretty Dresses.esp Animation Objects - Merged.esp Poser Hotkeys.esp Hide Those Futile Quests.esp EasyWheel.esp GuardAnimationsGDO.esp FreckleMania2.esp bodyscars.esp RaceMenuOverlayCompilation - CBBE.esp TheCoenaculiCBBE.esp TheCoenaculiMALE.esp Kai's Lipstick.esp Body Paints.esp NB-Scars.esp KJ Tattoos 2K.esp Nuska Warpaint.esp Immersive Citizens - ELE patch.esp vMYC_MeetYourCharacters.esp My Home Is Your Home.esp HFE-CRF-Patch.esp Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp Apocalypse - Waterstride Spell Addon.esp Apocalypse - More Apocalypse.esp sandboxcylinderheight.esp Dwemer Storage Cube.esp MeekoReborn.esp VigilanceReborn.esp ApachiiHelmetWigs.esp Lingerie.esp Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp RDO - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp anyonefollows2.esp ThrowVoice_NoSubs.esp ETaC - Complete ELE Patch.esp Havok Breast Physic Dawnguard.esp Havok Breast Physic Dragonborn.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp PCE - Live Another Life Patch.esp ETaC - Complete AS-LAL Patch.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp Not all are active but are incorporated into the Bashed patch. Some are merged plugins. Also, I seem to CTD every time I attempt to change Racemenu Bodyslide sliders. D:
myuhinny Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 I would redo the body like Ernest Lemmingway said and see if that did but if that fixes it if it doesn't work I would suggest reinstalling RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp and another race menu plugin and see if that might be the cause since you are crashing when trying to use the sliders it might mean that race menu or one of it's addons is causing it.
dragongodmod117 Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 I'm not too sure what mod it is but I see in the first screenshot that you have something that registers your character's weight. Is it possible that that specific mod is possibly editing body morphs?
Mud Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 What skeleton are you using? If the waist is noticeably thin even when wearing vanilla outfits that seems like the most likely culprit. Getting your old bodies halfway overwritten and "merged" is, to my knowledge, not a thing that can happen, especially if the resulting shape is not something you were aiming for in the first place.
huntressaela Posted February 23, 2018 Author Posted February 23, 2018 4 hours ago, dragongodmod117 said: I'm not too sure what mod it is but I see in the first screenshot that you have something that registers your character's weight. Is it possible that that specific mod is possibly editing body morphs? I'm sure it's possible, but highly unlikely. That is a widget from Realistic Needs and Diseases and I've used that for a while and never experienced this issue. I've reinstalled my skeleton and rebuilt the body in Bodyslide, as well as reinstalling RaceMenu. Aaaaaaand now I'm crashing before I can even load up my old saves. Guess I'll try a new game. Papyrus log attached. Papyrus.0.log.7z UPDATE: I started a new game without loading my character preset that I had previously made for my character and the issue did NOT persist. I'm really sad, because she was beautiful, but there must be something wrong with that preset. :S Luckily I saved her head sculpt so I'll figure it out. UPDATE 2: I still can't use the CBBE Sliders without CTD. Gonna attach updated papyrus log. I'm also using Crash Fixes, I'll see if there's something in the configuration settings about Bodyslide Sliders; I know it can cause crashes with Racemenu sometimes. --- Papyrus.log.7z UPDATE 3: Yep, it was Crash Fixes. From the mod page: Spoiler Common issues:UseOSAllocators=1 and crashing when touching sliders in character creation or otherwise.Set AlignHeapAllocate=1 in CrashFixPlugin.ini, downside is increased load time and increased memory usage. Hope it doesn't mess up the flow of the game. Anyone know if changing this back to 0 when I'm done editing sliders will be safe?
huntressaela Posted February 23, 2018 Author Posted February 23, 2018 Final update: I'm not entirely certain what the root cause of the strangely shaped body was, but I have eliminated the issue so I'm happy. Turns out I did not actually have the head saved from the previous preset, but I loaded up one I already had and tweaked her and to be honest I think she looks much more like the character I had in mind anyway. Many thanks to you all for your help! Spoiler
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