guk Posted June 10, 2017 Posted June 10, 2017 I'm getting extreme FPS drops in 2 locations, the Yangtze and West Roxbury Station. Basically the FPS instantly drops when looking in a certain direction, and when walking toward the "laggy spot" it gradually slows down until the game only reacts every few seconds. In Roxbury this was so bad ( <1fps when walking around a corner in the top floor) that i had to pass the affected room while looking at the wall, then in the Yangtze i tracked it down to the yellow emergency light on the commando bridge. Either that, or an object in the room behind it. The light would be one meter right where the arrow points. Anybody having an idea, is this a vanilla / ENB / ReShade bug or could it be a mod? I never went to those 2 locations in any playthrough before, so i couldn't tell if this might be due to an added or updated mod. All other places have been fine so far. Load order in spoiler GameMode=Fallout4Fallout4.esm=1DLCRobot.esm=1DLCworkshop01.esm=1DLCCoast.esm=1DLCworkshop02.esm=1DLCworkshop03.esm=1DLCNukaWorld.esm=1Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp=1ArmorKeywords.esm=1TrueStormsFO4.esm=1ACS Master.esm=1Snap'n Build.esm=1EthreonMasterPlan.esp=1BulbWire_Shadow.esp=1Slower VATS - 25%.esp=1extendedLightsWS - No shadows.esp=1Brighter Wasteland Workshop Lights.esp=1Vault-tec brighter lights.esp=1scavengesandboxmod.esp=1Housekeeping.esp=1CROSS_CosmeticFramework.esm=1ACS Master.esp=1ACS Paintings.esp=1CleanVATS.esp=1FatManRadiation.esp=1NoLollygagging.esp=1JustDebris.esp=1HN66Fo4_EasyGirl_BS.esp=1xy - Jumpsuits.esp=1xy - Misty Outfit.esp=1CREAtiveClutter.esp=1RedWaveReloaded.esp=1RobotMilitaryPaint.esp=1Binoculars.esp=1Lots More Facial Hair.esp=1Lots More Male Hairstyles.esp=1Arbitration - Recommended Core.esp=1RemoteExplosives.esp=1Bozar.esp=1ClassicSniper.esp=1SkibsWeapons-REDUX.esp=13dscopes.esp=13dscopes-framework.esp=13dscopes-classicsniperaddon.esp=13dscopes-FarHarbor.esp=13dscopes-NukaWorld.esp=1AA Lots More Settlers and Enemies.esp=1AA LMSE_FarHarbor.esp=1AA LMSE_VTWorkshop_Patch.esp=1QuickTrade.esp=1TheEyesOfBeauty.esp=1AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp=1Easier Hacking - 1 Word.esp=1Easy Lockpick.esp=1Guaranteed Pickpocket.esp=1TrueStormsFO4-FarHarbor.esp=1PhotoLight.esp=1PhotoLightSlotOption.esp=1TrueStormsFO4-NukaWorld-FH-Compat.esp=1Thematic and Practical.esp=1Thematic and Practical - DLC.esp=1NoVanillaRadiantDLCLocations.esp=1NoMoreRandomTurretMks.esp=1Armorsmith Extended.esp=1Armorsmith All DLCs Patch.esp=1Armorsmith Combat Helmet Illumination 1.2.esp=1NoRailRoadBallisticWeaveCPL.esp=1Smoke-able Cigars.esp=1BumperSwordStandalone.esp=1DavesPoses.esp=1NukaRadBans.esp=1Wall Oil Lamps.esp=1ShortFlagpolesCond.esp=1Settlements - Lights Out.esp=1SettlementAttacksBeyond.esp=1SettlementAttacksBeyondFH.esp=1SettlementAttacksBeyondNW.esp=1settlementheight9000-aio.esp=1SLR.esp=1Vertibird Alt Fix.esp=1BoxHouses.esp=1PipeGalore.esp=1RedRocketReborn.esp=1Craftable Armor Size.esp=1VendorVariety.esp=1AkaInvisibleFurniture.esp=1Invisible_Guard_Marker.esp=1More Guard Posts.esp=1VerticalConduits.esp=1Passthrough.esp=1dinoshelf.esp=1dinoshelf_extra_ammo.esp=1ConstructionLight_Brighter_Shadows_Wireless.esp=1MiscHairstyle.esp=1ABP Paintings.esp=1Goggles on Forehead.esp=1FO4Hotkeys.esp=1ExtendedHairColors.esp=1Companion Infinite Ammo and Unbreakable Power Armour.esp=1CROSS_Uni_Headset.esp=1KSHairdos.esp=1LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp=1Immersive Wastelanders v1.2.esp=1CROSS_Uni_Scarf.esp=1AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches.esp=1AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches - Power Armor Carry Capacity.esp=1AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches - AWKCR.esp=1AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches - AWKCR Power Armor.esp=1Crimsomrider's Immersive Market.esp=1RILF.esp=1WestTekTacticalOptics.esp=1WestTekTacticalOptics-AWKCR.esp=1Targeting HUD Enhanced.esp=1LoveToCraftLegendary_Recycle.esp=1LoveToCraftLegendary_Recycle_NukaWorld.esp=1LoveToCraftLegendary_Recycle_FarHarbor.esp=1LoveToCraftLegendary_Recycle_Automatron.esp=1LoveToCraftLegendary_Recycle_ExtraEffects.esp=1LoveToCraftLegendary_Recycle_BonusEffects.esp=1LooksMenu.esp=1CROSS_eyepatch.esp=1CROSS_Gear.esp=1Sandbag Fortifications - Version 2C.esp=1Crafting Mastery - ALL DLC (Hard AE).esp=1WastelandBillboards.esp=1CBBE Furry Undergarments Fix.esp=1OK Guard Posts.esp=1Cozy Beds.esp=1Tan_Paint_PA.esp=1MMP4APA-blue.esp=1MMP4APA.esp=1Hermetic_PA.esp=1Molerat_Disease_Immunity_PA_Hazmat.esp=1BetterAutomatronWeapons.esp=1Boats.esp=1Pip-Boy Flashlight.esp=1Tactical Flashlights.esp=1Tactical Flashlights - Settings.esp=1AtomicBeauty.esp=0CBBE.esp=1Scrap Everything - Core.esp=1Scrap Everything - Far Harbor.esp=1Scrap Everything - Nuka World.esp=1BuildingGroundFix.esp=1ScrapUpdate - Core.esp=1ScrapUpdate - FH.esp=1Snappy_HouseK.esp=1Snappy_DecoKit.esp=1VanillaExtensions.esp=1WorkshopRearranged.esp=1 ENB is the latest .311 binaries using the Grim Wolf ReShade and ENB - Institute ASD preset.
guk Posted June 10, 2017 Author Posted June 10, 2017 Well it's weird, now i'm standing in the same spot with 60fps. Last time i got that drop in Roxbury, a game restart did not help. Only thing that's different in Yangtze now is that i completed the quest stage with the dampening coils in the meantime.
27X Posted June 10, 2017 Posted June 10, 2017 Aside from the usual snark about gamebryo, FO4 has extremely excessive draw calls, and since game logic and script resolves depend on framerate, there ya go. Hopefully going forward they'll figure out to decouple those things, like pretty much anyone else that doesn't make fighting games has.
guk Posted June 10, 2017 Author Posted June 10, 2017 Actually my performance with the mentioned ENB is really good, there are some odd places where it usually drops below 40fps - mainly the messy downtown area in east Boston near the ocean. And the other thing are settlement mods with shadowcasting lights, putting a few of them in a shack with plenty of details (Do It YourShelf...) is a real FPS killer and you're looking at ~30 constantly as long as you stay near the lights. No problem once you walk a few meters away though. I don't think any of this has anything to do with the glitch where the FPS grinds to around zero though. Anyways i don't see the issue solved, since the game restart didn't fix this in the first instance.
guk Posted August 20, 2017 Author Posted August 20, 2017 Just a follow-up on this issue - some people had already reported exactly this issue, and it does look like a randomly occuring memory leak. Now after reading the comments on Ultra Interior Lighting (which changes most interior lights to shadowcasters with better placement), the issue seems quite common there. So my guess is that the memory leak comes from the dynamic / shadowcasting lights only.
Zor2k13 Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 This happens after a while of going in and outside or changing cells otherwise known as playing the game it seems the computer just gets tired and the game bugs out. Quitting the game and restarting the computer fixes this until it happens again.
Andy14 Posted August 22, 2017 Posted August 22, 2017 I have the drop in the Northern Church of Railroad when I enter the first time. Regardless of Mods, ReShade, ENB etc - also Vanilla. Drop is very polite, actually a freeze - max. 1 FPS. It helps save and quit (may take some time). After loading - everything again okay-stable 60 FPS. It is only once and only at this point. In the CK I found nothing - at first glance. Since I know what awaits me there, it is not so bad. Save, Exit - Load. So my guess is that the memory leak comes from the dynamic / shadowcasting lights only. So you could be right. If I put the patience (with 1 FPS) to turn and have different angles, the FPS go noticeably high - however not 60 FPS, but only 25-35. Only exit and reload has helped so far.
vinfamy Posted August 22, 2017 Posted August 22, 2017 I have the drop in the Northern Church of Railroad when I enter the first time. Same. Basically a freeze. Thanks Bethesda.
guk Posted August 22, 2017 Author Posted August 22, 2017 I have the drop in the Northern Church of Railroad when I enter the first time. Regardless of Mods, ReShade, ENB etc - also Vanilla. Drop is very polite, actually a freeze - max. 1 FPS. It helps save and quit (may take some time). After loading - everything again okay-stable 60 FPS. It is only once and only at this point. In the CK I found nothing - at first glance. Since I know what awaits me there, it is not so bad. Save, Exit - Load. So my guess is that the memory leak comes from the dynamic / shadowcasting lights only. So you could be right. If I put the patience (with 1 FPS) to turn and have different angles, the FPS go noticeably high - however not 60 FPS, but only 25-35. Only exit and reload has helped so far. I have the drop in the Northern Church of Railroad when I enter the first time. Same. Basically a freeze. Thanks Bethesda. Okay i never had the issue in that location, but if you could confirm that there is a shadowcasting light in that place, we would have another piece of evidence for my theory ;-)
Bruce Banner Posted August 22, 2017 Posted August 22, 2017 I get a FPS drop in the Cambridge Police Station area / College Square area . Don't know why there particularly as it runs fine pretty much everywhere else in the game apart from one or two other rare occurences occasionally . I wonder if it's down to there being quite a lot of Ghouls , Brotherhood of Steel and Supermutants often condensed around those 2 areas ?
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