[IDEA] SexLab Dirty XP

[Guest]

Hello, this is from an idea of @DragonChickenBorn (Mavolent on Discord) discussed on Discord.

 

Imagine that the player can run only a subset of the SexLab animations, based on its Sexual skills.

More you gain on SexLab expertise, more animations will be unlocked.

 

Every time the player completes a SexLab animation, some XP are added to it.

 

Maybe we can create also a new set of Perks to handle this (not easy to add them to the skill UI, but technically is possible.)

 

More you increase your skills and more perks you activate, more SexLab anims will be unlocked for the player.

 

The mod will have a SexLab Hook to change the actual animations played by other mods, to respect the current skills.

 

This mod will not affect at all animations between NPCs and when the player is a victim (the player does not decide in this case.)

 

 

 

I have not too much time to do this new mod right now, but maybe I will do it myself in the next weeks.

 

 

 

What do you think? Do I have to spend time on it?

 

Cheers.

[darkconsole]

you know i am surprised that this hasn't been done before. both in your version or in a version where like you can boink to level your skills up. moment i read the first line "seriously how is this not already a thing?"

 

perks are ok but don't touch the skills ui itself. manage them via alternate means.

 

you don't need my opinions on code so i'd play test it for you XD

[Guest]

We will see Dark, as stated, the idea is not mine.

I may do this mod if I will have time to do it.

 

Technically it is not really complex to do.

 

Only the SWF for the perks lines may require some time to be done.

 

[KuteKatty]

*(recently edited)*

well the idea its "quite a simple"
when you have sex with a NPC male or female
you will gain a certain level that will rise with your Sexlevel

Normal sex = 10 Xp (+2 when you level up)

zoophilia = 15 xp (+3 xp when you level up) (special Buff called " i Love Animals" will make all the agressive animal become friendly)

necrophilia = -5 Xp (will remove more xp when leveled up, you will gain a debuff called "No feellings" that drains your magicka by 10 and will not regenerate) (chage to get bounty if someone see 1000 bounty)

gangbang = + 10 X? (will multiply the Xp gained per person or animal animating like: 10x3=30 you will gain 30 Xp for a Threesome
)
masturbation = -5 Xp (will remove more when leved up) but you will gain a special Buff (Honeyed Words: your speechcraft level will rise 15 levels)

When level up the gained Xp while doing the animations will continue the same (like normal sex: normal xp gained=10 when leved up will rise to 12, if you level up again will add 2 more )

skipping the Animation don't give you the Xp, same thing for "accerating" the Animation

I hope you guys like the idea i give to CPU
 

[EniracY]

Sounds like a really good idea, actually. For the perks you could use Campfire's custom perk system to avoid compatibility issues too.

[Guest]

Sounds like a really good idea, actually. For the perks you could use Campfire's custom perk system to avoid compatibility issues too.

 

It can be an option, but will require a dependency on Campfire.

[EniracY]

 

Sounds like a really good idea, actually. For the perks you could use Campfire's custom perk system to avoid compatibility issues too.

 

It can be an option, but will require a dependency on Campfire.

 

 

Unfortunately yes, but that might be better then getting involved with the normal perk trees? If perks do come into the mod at all, that is.

[27X]

Sounds like a really good idea, actually. For the perks you could use Campfire's custom perk system to avoid compatibility issues too.

 

Campfire is a mess.

[Guest]

I will see.

Right now this is just an idea mod.

 

Not a real mod.

[KuteKatty]

this "perk tree" can be a Book called "Sexual orientation"
there you can "update" him with a option on MCM "update Sex perk tree"

or you can see your perk tree in a MCM menu..
(just ideas)
 

[Guest]

Again, I never altered the vanilla perk system, so I am not 100% sure of what the problems will be.

 

One day I will check and have answers.

 

As usual I prefer to avoid mod dependencies (except SexLab.)

this "perk tree" can be a Book called "Sexual orientation"?
there you can "update" him with a option on MCM "update Sex perk tree"
 

 

A MCM page is easy.

But not really graphical.

 

I will see.

[karlpaws]

I am really sure there already is a mod similar to what you're describing here.   When I find it / remember what it was, I'll post an update.

 

IIRC it added perks in the Speech tree (one reason I didn't use it) but I think a "perks" system in the MCM menu would be the way instead, to maintain compatibility with other mods.  Several mods use XP based skills instead of perks and allow you to buy skills after you have enough points.

 

For this idea, I'd tag at least one of each type of anim as novice or beginner, or allow a non consensual version of an animation to be used when needed, I.E. "I paid for a blowjob, slut! If  you can't do it right, I'll just have to show you."

 

 

[EDIT]

 

http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/2353-sexlab-life-of-lust-enhanced-by-sex-perks-wip/

 

Found one mod but not sure if it is what I had in mind.  Does not enable animations but does give abilities based on amount and kind of sex. Early/old WIP and should be re-done to support SLAL instead at this point, I think, for easier maintenance.

[Dragonjoe69]

NOOOO!!! I am no longer The jedi master I have been reduced to jedi bater !!!! worry not young pussywon the jedi will return!!!!

[zzz72w3r]

Just being the devil's advocate here....

 

The application would seem rather limited if it only applies in case where PC is initiating the sex and the mod that sets it up has a mechanism to use said skill tree.  Personally it's not my kind of game play but I think those who enjoy player control sex scene might already be using 0Sex. 

 

Another issue with SL skill/perk is the unlocking system.  Who is to rank the animations and who is to say which animation is high rank and which is low?  Without the feedback of work and reward playing a skill/perk tree is as fun as fetching quests.

 

Is this independent or part of SL update?  If it is an independent framework then it's usage might be even less popular.  Mods that looking for a way of grouping SL animation selections already have some kind of internal system that ties in better with the story said mod wants to tell and not every mod needs this.   

 

If the ranking/perk system is for storytelling instead and applies to all actors and has a visual feedback loop (debug text, on screen dialogue or animation etc) as in The Sims then it could be interesting.  Effectively a dynamic approach of the SexLife mod which uses a static attribute system. 

 

 

[EniracY]

 

Sounds like a really good idea, actually. For the perks you could use Campfire's custom perk system to avoid compatibility issues too.

 

Campfire is a mess.

 

 

It is? Why?

[Guest]

OK, some results from my very first checks.

 

There is NO way to add a new Skill to the game. It miserably crashes.

 

So probably I will use (rename) one of the skills (Speak looks the best), keep the old three as is (no changes) but add a side tree to it.

 

Already tested in game and seems to have no impact on the normal game (tried with very limited mods, no clues if a heavy perks mod like Perkus Maximum will have problems)

 

 

Now it is just thinking time to define the perks and what they will do.

[KuteKatty]

OK, some results from my very first checks.

 

There is NO way to add a new Skill to the game. It miserably crashes.

 

So probably I will use (rename) one of the skills (Speak looks the best), keep the old three as is (no changes) but add a side tree to it.

 

Already tested in game and seems to have no impact on the normal game (tried with very limited mods, no clues if a heavy perks mod like Perkus Maximum will have problems)

 

 

Now it is just thinking time to define the perks and what they will do.

 

try to put these "sexual perks" in a MCM menu will be more easily for you

[Guest]

 

try to put these "sexual perks" in a MCM menu will be more easily for you

 

 

 

Actually, I already put them in the Skills menu.

And it is working fine.

 

 

 

1a Lover: Kissing/Foreplay animation

 

2a Mouthfull: Oral animations

2b Proposal: Ask for clients

 

3a Classic: Genital animations

3b Charming: Attract clients

 

4a Pervert: Anal animations

4b Escort: Allows your clients to follow you

4c Expertise: allows you to ask for higher prices

 

5a Party Animal: Threesomes and Orgies

5b Zoophile: Creature sex

5c Make Love not War: stops enemies for attacking (but they do violent sex)

5d Necro: Necrophilia

5e Your nose bleeds: allows to have people to masturbate when you are around

 

6a Pimp: allows people to behave as whores and gives you back the earned money

6b I am thirsty: enables some special bukkake options

 

[KuteKatty]

 

 

try to put these "sexual perks" in a MCM menu will be more easily for you

 

 

 

Actually, I already put them in the Skills menu.

And it is working fine.

 

 

 

1a Lover: Kissing/Foreplay animation

 

2a Mouthfull: Oral animations

2b Proposal: Ask for clients

 

3a Classic: Genital animations

3b Charming: Attract clients

 

4a Pervert: Anal animations

4b Escort: Allows your clients to follow you

4c Expertise: allows you to ask for higher prices

 

5a Party Animal: Threesomes and Orgies

5b Zoophile: Creature sex

5c Make Love not War: stops enemies for attacking (but they do violent sex)

5d Necro: Necrophilia

5e Your nose bleeds: allows to have people to masturbate when you are around

 

6a Pimp: allows people to behave as whores and gives you back the earned money

6b I am thirsty: enables some special bukkake options

 

botwSkillsAndperks.png

 

 

i liked how you named the perks (make love not war Lol nice name )

 

[karlpaws]

I haven't looked at perk merging but I think that is one of the major issues with blending mods. Speech is the most logical tree, yes but its also the one that many other balancing mods will touch for merchant interaction and item pricing. (alchemy and smithing are probably the other two most modified perk trees.)

 

I didn't think to mention, but no, you cannot add new trees otherwise people would have added unarmed and athletics and acrobatics tree back into the game. Adding perks to the existing trees isn't that hard, its merging the trees from two mods that is.

[Guest]

The big problem is that there is no way to merge the graphical representation of two perk trees added by two mods.

Depending on which mod has priority (last in the load order) then one tree will win.

 

[Guest]

I am advancing in the implementation.

 

The name is changed to "Book of the Whore" (works for both male and female players, also if the name is for females.)

 

The perk tree is done, the book is done, the MCM is almost completed, some of the code for the perks is done.

 

Maybe in a couple of weeks, I will publish it.

 

 

If you want to propose something now it is the good time to do it.

[KuteKatty]

I am advancing in the implementation.

 

The name is changed to "Book of the Whore" (works for both male and female players, also if the name is for females.)

 

The perk tree is done, the book is done, the MCM is almost completed, some of the code for the perks is done.

 

Maybe in a couple of weeks, I will publish it.

 

 

If you want to propose something now it is the good time to do it.

 

propose = what?

sorry i don't understant

[Guest]

 

propose = what?

sorry i don't understant

 

 

PT: Da-me tas ideias sobre o que fazer com as vantagens do mod.

 

EN: give me your ideas about what to do with the perks added by the mod.

[KuteKatty]

 

 

propose = what?

sorry i don't understant

 

 

PT: Da-me tas ideias sobre o que fazer com as vantagens do mod.

 

EN: give me your ideas about what to do with the perks added by the mod.

 

 

oh right, well...

add like, some perks will increase your changefor the people accepts making sex with you but will have some disadvantages like... some bandits will ignore the Rape option and will slave you (if simple slavery is installed) ... or animals

Will hit you and leave you unconscious at some random spot on the map

and guards will clean your bounty when having sex with your female character but will take you to jail or take some items from you that can be get from any guard by taking them back (will pay 1000 gold for all the items "stolen")

if a falmer rapes your character(only females for this option) they will lock you with chains (like slaving someone)

when raped by any animal will add a Buff called "I Love Animals"> animals will become friendly

when doing necrophilia will add a DeBuff to you called " No feelings" > yourt Mana (or magicka) will not regenerate and will be drained by 15 points every 10 seconds

if you like to add something to the mod CPU you can send me a mensage at Discorp

Hope you like the ideas