nabaeru Posted September 16, 2012 Posted September 16, 2012 Ah yes, before I test the patch, I forgot to mention. Prior to patch, there is no problem with the Werewolf transformation. My Elin can transform to werewolf and when she transforms back to human, she will be naked (normal vanilla behavior). I am going to test the patch now.
nabaeru Posted September 16, 2012 Posted September 16, 2012 Sorry for triple posting, I thought I just come and inform what I have found during the testing of the Dawnguard compatibility patch for Elin. There is no problem turning into a Vampire Lord or becoming a Vampire. But you will still be ugly after turning into a vampire.
PsychoMachina Posted September 16, 2012 Author Posted September 16, 2012 @Psychomachina I have a question about the Elin race. Whenever I change into vampire or Vampire Lord (Dawnguard)' date=' my Elin becomes ugly, the Elin face is also deformed. I know maybe this has something to do being vampire will change the race but is there a fix? If there is no fix, then it is fine, I am just asking. It is just that I won't be able to play vampire as an Elin then. [/quote'] I have uploaded a custom patch that helps make the Elin race compatible with Dawnguard. You will still need RaceCompatibility v1.7. <<<<<<<<<<---+--->>>>>>>>>> Hello Nabaeru I will be uploading a custom "Dawnguard-ready" Race Compatibility patch. This is very much beta, but it should address any possible problems with transformations for both werewolves and vampires. Can you show screenshots of your current vampire Elin and another after using the custom patch? I never play as a vampire, but curious as to how she looks as one. <<<<<<<<<<---+--->>>>>>>>>> @speedynl and @mud This is why it will take me longer than originally expected. The facegen files is not really the problem. The real problem is finding the cause of these bugs that will only affect certain people. If the problems shows up in my game then finding a solution is all the more easier that is why I list known bugs and glitches with every mod and updates. Oh, I never know there is a Dawnguard-ready patch. I do not know what the patch will do because my Elin worked just fine...well, except from the vampirism. Anyway, here it what a vampire Elin looks like: Yeah. It is quite....a change. Ouch. If you mean the Custom Race compatibility patch 1.7 (the same one in nexus), I have it and I am already using it because it is the requirement of using the Elin race, right? If I am wrong and it is a different patch altogether, please do inform me. Hello Nabaeru Ouch! is right. What happenes is that the game will change her race during transformation. She will retain the textures, but the game will switch to a different skeleton and/or body/head mesh. It could either be CotS, Monli, or, from past experiences, one of the vanilla races. Writing proper scripts should fix this, however, this is totally new to me. If you don't mind, try starting a new game because one problem with scripts is that it will stubbornly remain in game save. What that means is that, even if you uninstall or replace a mod's script files, the old information is still affecting the game. So try a new game (you can still keep the current saves, just create new ones) with the Dawnguard patch for the Elin race along with Race Compatibility v1.7 and see if that will prevent the faulty transformation. Good Luck!
nabaeru Posted September 16, 2012 Posted September 16, 2012 @Psychomachina Just tested your patch with a new game. Skipped to the character creation via mod, and after that I put in the console: player.setrace elinracevampire The face did not morph like in my previous picture. It means the patch works, but I cannot vouch for the Elin vampire using the 'proper procedures'. But still, thanks for your hard work, I guess from now on people in Skyrim have to watch out for little girls creeping up to them in their sleep to feed then.
Mud Posted September 16, 2012 Posted September 16, 2012 They already kinda had to, with Babette on the loose.
PsychoMachina Posted September 16, 2012 Author Posted September 16, 2012 Uploaded updates to the base files. These are not complete packages, but rather the common race files used in all the different packs. What's new? - English language version. - Japanese language version. - Included mod manager-friendly pack. All credit goes to the author of the update.
nopopup Posted September 17, 2012 Posted September 17, 2012 hello, im the one who requested the anime-looking adult elin mod. I just want to tell you that I'm still waiting for it and take your time. Just wanted to make sure you didn't forget it. HAHA it seems like there are some problems to solve so i don't really want to bother ya. Just take your time. Thank you alot!
PsychoMachina Posted September 17, 2012 Author Posted September 17, 2012 hello' date=' im the one who requested the anime-looking adult elin mod. I just want to tell you that I'm still waiting for it and take your time. Just wanted to make sure you didn't forget it. HAHA it seems like there are some problems to solve so i don't really want to bother ya. Just take your time. Thank you alot! [/quote'] Hello Nopopup I have not forgotten. I have been busy lately not to mention I had to start from scratch after the game became unstable and corrupted some of my saves. Anyway, here is what I have so far. She has the UNP Blessed Body. I have been trying different body-replacers, textures, and beauty enhancers. You can try out an Alpha-release. I didn't test her extensively so there might be bugs and the race is not Dawnguard-compatible. NOTES: The Derivelin race has the same Powers and Active Abilities as the Elin race. Elin race not required. So far only Numenume hairs and the included Nord hairs will show up in Character Creation. Apachii and Elin Race-Apachii Hairs fix does not work. Tera Elin Hairs does not work, but you can use the Fox 20 or Fox 20 - Speedynl Ed. to add ears and tails. Screens http://www.mediafire.com/view/?kq07mwyltf414#ilz42e3gqlp99er ***DOWNLOAD*** Derivelin Race UNPBB - Test http://www.mediafire.com/?p4w9d1d54ziz8
Mud Posted September 17, 2012 Posted September 17, 2012 Say, would you happen to know how I can tweak the size of the Elin, and the height of the first-person camera myself? A fully adult size Elin is too out of place due to the size of her head compared to the rest of Skyrim, but the small one is too short for my liking. I generally use the console command setscale 1.1 to increase my height a bit but that command sometimes gets reset when using objects and makes both first-person cams inaccurate.
PsychoMachina Posted September 17, 2012 Author Posted September 17, 2012 Say' date=' would you happen to know how I can tweak the size of the Elin, and the height of the first-person camera myself? A fully adult size Elin is too out of place due to the size of her head compared to the rest of Skyrim, but the small one is too short for my liking. I generally use the console command setscale 1.1 to increase my height a bit but that command sometimes gets reset when using objects and makes both first-person cams inaccurate. [/quote'] Try the skeleton files from the Derivelin race mod. As you can see from the screenshots I posted in reply to nopopup, the Derivelin is about the height of a teenager. As for editing the skeleton, try nifscope first since you're only adjusting her height. If that doesn't work then 3dsmax seems to be the choice of a lot of modders.
Mud Posted September 17, 2012 Posted September 17, 2012 Hrm... do you happen to have any idea what I should edit to change her height? Changing the scale of body and skeletonfemale files in 2chElin fix didn't seem to do anything.
Lucas Posted September 19, 2012 Posted September 19, 2012 Someone tell me if I'm missing a plugin? I having troubles with the elin monli cbbe. Sometimes floating head, dark face.. Everything is ok with my plugin list? How to install the cbbe v3? because have so many options in the fomod. sorry my poor english I'm from spain.
PsychoMachina Posted September 19, 2012 Author Posted September 19, 2012 Someone tell me if I'm missing a plugin? I having troubles with the elin monli cbbe. Sometimes floating head' date=' dark face.. Everything is ok with my plugin list? How to install the cbbe v3? because have so many options in the fomod. sorry my poor english I'm from spain. Hello Lucas If you are using the BBP body for the Elins then you will need to move this file... ElinRace - Use Monli Custom BBP body.esp ...to last in the load order and move or delete this file... ElinRace - Use Monli Body.esp Also, when choosing a BBP body texture, I suggest installing manually for now the head and body textures of your choice. I will be repacking all the different packages so that they are more mod manager friendly.
deahtcythe Posted September 19, 2012 Posted September 19, 2012 i install it and my game crash after bethesda logo any help?
PsychoMachina Posted September 19, 2012 Author Posted September 19, 2012 i install it and my game crash after bethesda logo any help? Hello Deahtcythe Do you have Apachii SkyHairs installed? The Elin race requires it and CTD after the logo typically happenes when Apachii is not installed or missing files. <<<<<<<<<<---+--->>>>>>>>>> Speaking of hairs, I have been able to add Apachii hairs and Tera Elin hairs to the Derivelin race, but now her hands and feet are missing. Anyone can provide some insight on why the hell that happens. Also, I improved the head and body skin-tones. Need to work on the neck seams. Screenshot features the Fair-skin body and Sunburn Bikini.
Lucas Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 @PsychoMachina Thanks for the help, this fixed my elin, no dark or light face anymore anyway, do you know a way to do the mannequins look like the elin? Tried MLLY but no success
PsychoMachina Posted September 20, 2012 Author Posted September 20, 2012 Speaking of hairs' date=' I have been able to add Apachii hairs and Tera Elin hairs to the Derivelin race, but now her hands and feet are missing. Anyone can provide some insight on why the hell that happens. [/quote'] not sure you added them true CK i quess did you added the hailine to female extra parts, and hair to head part ? hair line shoud be misc and extra part checked hair shoud have hairline in extra part colum but then again i'm just a n00b, best thing to do is check master skyrim to see how it works checked renhair seems i was right, works the same way as the tails sample ------------------------------------------------ @mud i found the height setting in nifskope height-ground ninode-npc com[com] set scale then you need to adjust npc (z) so she get back on the ground again, if you don't adjust that 1 she float above the ground ---------------------------------------------------- adjusted 2hd sword, dagger, bow/arrow placement and made them a bit smaller so they fit better, made the legs a bit shorter, think its not to bad for a n00b like me x117-revamp I did a simple copy/paste using TESsnip so basically all the information should be the same as if I added each hair and hairline using CK. I'll double-check in CK. And another thing, stop calling yourself a 'n00b'. <<<<<<<<<<---+--->>>>>>>>>> @PsychoMachina Thanks for the help' date=' this fixed my elin, no dark or light face anymore anyway, do you know a way to do the mannequins look like the elin? Tried MLLY but no success [/quote'] I have seen Elin mannequins before... http://youtu.be/zZBs_CFB7yk I don't know if a mod was used or the person who recorded the video simply made changes so that the vanilla mannequins appeared with custom bodies. I'm not familiar with MLLY. Does it change the vanilla mannequins or adds custom ones. Can you provide a dl link and I'll see what I can do.
Lucas Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 I don't know if a mod was used or the person who recorded the video simply made changes so that the vanilla mannequins appeared with custom bodies. I'm not familiar with MLLY. Does it change the vanilla mannequins or adds custom ones. Can you provide a dl link and I'll see what I can do. I'know, it's the clothes from the Tera Mod Collection thread that have full body, "Tera Elin Pack (Mask)" And the mlly is here http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/23483 thanks
PsychoMachina Posted September 20, 2012 Author Posted September 20, 2012 Well I created an Elin mannequin. http://www.mediafire.com/view/?dr0bg3t8k42pjkq This is only in the concept stage and some more work is needed, but what is interesting is she goes through the Elin idle animation until I access her inventory. Afterwards, she reverts to and stays in the mannequin stance. I would like to keep her "alive" or, in other words, have her in the idle animation loop even after equipping armor on her. Interesting.
nopopup Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 i install it and my game crash after bethesda logo any help? Hello Deahtcythe Do you have Apachii SkyHairs installed? The Elin race requires it and CTD after the logo typically happenes when Apachii is not installed or missing files. <<<<<<<<<<---+--->>>>>>>>>> Speaking of hairs' date=' I have been able to add Apachii hairs and Tera Elin hairs to the Derivelin race, but now her hands and feet are missing. Anyone can provide some insight on why the hell that happens. Also, I improved the head and body skin-tones. Need to work on the neck seams. Screenshot features the Fair-skin body and Sunburn Bikini. [/quote'] I saw the screenshots you uploaded and Everything looks great! But is it possible to make the Derievelin's (new name for anime-adult elin?) height as tall as Skyrim's original adult characters' height? I think it will look better. Since my gaming computer is toasted i can't try your Derievelin's beta mod but ill try it as soon as i fix my computer. Thank you so much.
Lucas Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 Hey thanks you guys @speedynl i don't know how to use ck i tried to use to merge my mods into one but no success. a lot of CTD after that @PsychoMachina Please continue this, I really want a elin mannequin, I plan to make a youtube channel (Someday) for mod showcase for my country because here don't have much youtubers doing this. And one more question psychoMachina, there any chance of CTD if i install Enhanced Character Edit or Pretty Face?, i want to use more races like cherry race/Oriental Race and they are ugly without these mods
PsychoMachina Posted September 22, 2012 Author Posted September 22, 2012 Hey thanks you guys @speedynl i don't know how to use ck i tried to use to merge my mods into one but no success. a lot of CTD after that @PsychoMachina Please continue this' date=' I really want a elin mannequin, I plan to make a youtube channel (Someday) for mod showcase for my country because here don't have much youtubers doing this. And one more question psychoMachina, there any chance of CTD if i install Enhanced Character Edit or Pretty Face?, i want to use more races like cherry race/Oriental Race and they are ugly without these mods [/quote'] As far as I know, using Enhanced Character Edit and Pretty Face should not have any affect on the Elins. At one time I had two different Lydia replacers (CBBE and UNP; two different Data folders) with one using Better Females and the other using Coverwomen and of course Enhanced Character Edit. I didn't experience any problems. In addition, I'm heading over to Solitude to purchase the house there so that I can test the Elin mannequins. I don't want to use a mod that adds mannequins because I need to make sure the replacer mod works with the in-game mannequins. <<<<<<<<<<---+--->>>>>>>>>> @speedynl Looks good. Along with a laundry list of things I need to get done, I might try a different approach to the Derivelin race and make her more human looking, but with anime-ish facial features. Yeah, the list is growing.
sammyj069 Posted September 22, 2012 Posted September 22, 2012 Wow, this thread has grown @_@ In any case, idk if this is popping up for anyone else; but is anyone else having issues with the fox tail for the "New Fox 20 Speedy NL edition?" When I attempt to equip it to my follower, my game crashes T.T ...edit... or... all of the tails make my game crash T.T
PsychoMachina Posted September 22, 2012 Author Posted September 22, 2012 Wow' date=' this thread has grown @_@ In any case, idk if this is popping up for anyone else; but is anyone else having issues with the fox tail for the "New Fox 20 Speedy NL edition?" When I attempt to equip it to my follower, my game crashes T.T ...edit... or... all of the tails make my game crash T.T [/quote'] Hello Sammyj069 What followers do you have? Elin? Vanilla? Another Custom Race? Other than another testing with another custom race, I have double-checked and equipped all of the tails on my followers and the game did not crash. What is your load order? <<<<<<<<<<---+--->>>>>>>>>> UPDATE: Just to let everyone know, the dl link for Children of the Sky is broken. Apparently, Mediafire removed the main files. I'm currently waiting for permission to add my copy of CotS to the Elin-x117 package.
bk2011 Posted September 23, 2012 Posted September 23, 2012 I'm having a problem with custom hairs not showing up on the Elin race menu. I apologize if this issue has been addressed before but this thread is too long for me to search. I don't have any other race mods installed but I do have some other facial cosmetic mods. I have only installed the Elin base file and have not yet installed any other of the optional files. I have attached an image of my load order in NMM, the base file was also installed via NMM. Thanks in advance if someone can help me!
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