PsychoMachina Posted October 1, 2012 Author Posted October 1, 2012 better vamp. bugged my character the last time i installed it. dunno if this will fix elin's vamp lord mode. I can't say for certain, but if you used it before and it caused problems then the same can happen with the Elins. I'll see if I can make changes to the ElinRace.esm to ensure vampire abilities are part of the race list. I'll also peak inside the Ashen patch. This is why I never grab any DLC from Bethesda right-away.
PsychoMachina Posted October 1, 2012 Author Posted October 1, 2012 @maosama013 I was working on a patch for the vampire lord abilities when I extracted the Ashen race Dawnguard patch. Looking at the Readme file I noticed they require Better Vampires. Here is the full Readme. Dawnguard Vampire fix V3 for The Ashen Race HD Version 2.5 by Seren4XX. REQUIRES Better Vampires if you wish to become a Vampire Lord. Usage: Replace the existing ESP plugin with this one. If using Nexus Mod Manager choose "No" when asked to upgrade and overwrite the plugin when asked to. In-game usage: To make The Ashen V2.5 work properly with the new Dawnguard Vampire follow these steps: -Download and install The Ashen Race V2.5 -Download and install The Ashen Race V2.5 Dawnguard Fix V3 under "Optional Files" -Download and install the Better Vampires Mod. -When in-game bring up your console with the tilde ('). -Type player.setrace OraezeRaceVampire to become a vampire. -Lastly, your character should get undressed after the previous step and you should receive a Better Vampires message in the top-left corner of your screen after 10 seconds. If not, then enable the Better Vampires functionality with the in-game Better Vampires settings: Use the “Use Custom Race” menu option that is accessed with the {Customize or Reset Better Vampires Mod} at the bottom of your Powers to set variables and reinfect your customized race with vampirism. You will be able to play my mod as a customized race and enjoy all of the abilities and powers! Use the "Reset Better Vampires" menu option to remove this change. Changelog: V1 Temp fix: Race patched V2 Temp fix: 3 DLC items fixed to show up on Ashen characters and Vampire eye changed to Dawnguard's. Race dependant on Dawnguard.esm. V3 Fix: Race-flag removed. 3 DLC Items again fixed to show up on Ashen characters and added the proper Vampire Eyes for Dawnguard Ashen vamps. Better Vampires required for full vampire capabilities. Race also dependent on Dawnguard.esm. Can you give Better Vampires a test run with the Elin race and see if it works.
maosama013 Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 tried it. you can use regular vampire powers and vampire vanilla eyes are aligned but elin's name is still encrypted. vampire lord mode has still the same problems though.
PsychoMachina Posted October 2, 2012 Author Posted October 2, 2012 tried it. you can use regular vampire powers and vampire vanilla eyes are aligned but elin's name is still encrypted. vampire lord mode has still the same problems though. For now I can't look at the Ashen patch because I don't have Dawnguard and Dawnguard.esm is one of the master files. Can you' date=' or anyone for that matter, send me a copy of Dawnguard.esm.[/u'] My only other alternative is to follow Trykz' example and create a separate ESP file containing only the Elin vampire race, but I can't guarantee it will fix the bugs you are experiencing.
PsychoMachina Posted October 3, 2012 Author Posted October 3, 2012 Derivelin Race Beta v2 is now available. Made some minor changes and major additions. Enjoy! <<<<<<<<<<---+--->>>>>>>>>> I would like to say Thank You! to all those recently provided their help . You know who you are. <<<<<<<<<<---+--->>>>>>>>>> @ji123 Regarding the CBBE body, I tried sending you a message, but your pm is disabled. Anyway, it looks like you might need to double-check what body mesh you are using (CBBE or CBBE-BBP). If you are going for BBP don't forget to also use one of the skeletons included in the BBP body/texture pack. Also, try out the Tera body and see if it makes a difference. Good Luck!
TeaLeaf Posted October 3, 2012 Posted October 3, 2012 I was wondering if there is anyway to make this mod http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/6923 (Hair color mod) work with the elin race at all. ^^
Helbnano Posted October 3, 2012 Posted October 3, 2012 Thank you for sharing "Derivelin Race - UNP-BBP - Beta v2" I applied your mod with following step: 1-Apachii SkyHairs 2-New Elin Race-Main Package-2012Sep24 3-Sims Hairs 4 - finel, download file. But I was trying to apply tera armor which is "UNP_BBP" Version, game is CTD. About step 4, I install manuall install version because NMM say mod manager version is not correct (Maybe string of installation is different). About manual install, I install 1 main, 2 body unp bbp, 3 texture no hairy sunbun full 25. When I was in CTD, Elin didn't wear anything. Did I install wrong ?
PsychoMachina Posted October 3, 2012 Author Posted October 3, 2012 Hello TeaLeaf I'll try it out. I have used it before with interesting results so this should work with the Derivelin. <<<<<<<<<<---+--->>>>>>>>>> Hello Neonewkun Are you using the converted armor for CotS or is this the Tera armor from Nexus? I have not tried the ones from Nexus so I'll look into this. Edit: I'll also redo the mod manager install version. I'm taking down the file, in the mean time you can try the manual install option. <<<<<<<<<<---+--->>>>>>>>>> @speedynl I have the LingLing Collection. I'm having issues trying to extract the .rar file. I'm using Peazip and never had any problems with .rar files before so I'm thinking it could be the file itself. Can you have a look at it, maybe you'll have better luck. LingLing Collection http://www.mediafire.com/?vgn2nmx5dbi07
Helbnano Posted October 3, 2012 Posted October 3, 2012 Hello TeaLeaf I'll try it out. I have used it before with interesting results so this should work with the Derivelin. <<<<<<<<<<---+--->>>>>>>>>> Hello Neonewkun Are you using the converted armor for CotS or is this the Tera armor from Nexus? I have not tried the ones from Nexus so I'll look into this. Edit: I'll also redo the mod manager install version. I'm taking down the file' date=' in the mean time you can try the manual install option. <<<<<<<<<<---+--->>>>>>>>>> @speedynl I have the LingLing Collection. I'm having issues trying to extract the .rar file. I'm using Peazip and never had any problems with .rar files before so I'm thinking it could be the file itself. Can you have a look at it, maybe you'll have better luck. LingLing Collection http://www.mediafire.com/?vgn2nmx5dbi07 [/quote'] I used "TERA Armors for Skyrim - UNP and UNPB-BBP by Silver0236 and asianboy345"
PsychoMachina Posted October 3, 2012 Author Posted October 3, 2012 Hello TeaLeaf I'll try it out. I have used it before with interesting results so this should work with the Derivelin. <<<<<<<<<<---+--->>>>>>>>>> Hello Neonewkun Are you using the converted armor for CotS or is this the Tera armor from Nexus? I have not tried the ones from Nexus so I'll look into this. Edit: I'll also redo the mod manager install version. I'm taking down the file' date=' in the mean time you can try the manual install option. <<<<<<<<<<---+--->>>>>>>>>> @speedynl I have the LingLing Collection. I'm having issues trying to extract the .rar file. I'm using Peazip and never had any problems with .rar files before so I'm thinking it could be the file itself. Can you have a look at it, maybe you'll have better luck. LingLing Collection http://www.mediafire.com/?vgn2nmx5dbi07 [/quote'] I used "TERA Armors for Skyrim - UNP and UNPB-BBP by Silver0236 and asianboy345" I tried the armors and the game CTD after the logo. I swapped different combinations of BBP meshes and skeletons and the game always CTD. These armors require a BBP skeleton, but it doesn't work with custom BBP skeletons and the Derivelin doesn't work with Calyps' BBP skeleton. The one one thing I have yet to try is the other Tera armors, and I have just about all of them, to see if any fits. An interesting find, I tried out ADEC body on the Derivelin because I also downloaded the ADEC Tera armors from Nexus. Here are some screenshots of the results. I might add ADEC to the list of body-replacers. http://www.mediafire.com/view/?yz0tf6zkzeqgb#44ljre3o4ggj48y Comments anyone?
PsychoMachina Posted October 4, 2012 Author Posted October 4, 2012 Found the fix to allow the UNP-BBP Derivelin race to use the UNP-BBP Tera armors from Nexus. This was a simple fix, an obvious fix...proceed with *FACEPALM*. You will need to install the BBP mesh and skeletons by Calyps. http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?acjhp0j2zmrbsb3 Install using the normal paths, do not attempt to append it to the Derivelin folders. The armors fit, they just need the normal BBP meshes and skeletons in the correct locations. *facepalm**facepalm**facepalm*
GodSmack Posted October 4, 2012 Posted October 4, 2012 i have a question, does the skeletons and animations work only for this, becuase i dont want everyone in skyrim standing let elins and what not
PsychoMachina Posted October 4, 2012 Author Posted October 4, 2012 Hello Maosama013 Someone was nice enough to help me out. Thanks. I'm doing some research and hopefully I can get the Elin race updated soon. So much information to pour over. <<<<<<<<<<---+--->>>>>>>>>> Hello Godsmack The Elin Idle Animation only affects Elins. Your character, summoned Elins, and, if you have the Elin NPC and Enemies installed, Elin npcs and enemies. Vanilla races are not affected and so far other custom races are not affected. The Elin skeletons should not affect other races either, but if you have more than one character of different races, the 1st-person viewpoint has a tendency of remaining like that of the Elins; unless you have custom races like Monli or CotS then the 1st-person viewpoint would not be a problem.
GodSmack Posted October 4, 2012 Posted October 4, 2012 ok i got everything working fine, but the skin texture doesnt appear its just a no textured body
PsychoMachina Posted October 4, 2012 Author Posted October 4, 2012 ok i got everything working fine' date=' but the skin texture doesnt appear its just a no textured body [/quote'] @Godsmack What files did you download?
Helbnano Posted October 4, 2012 Posted October 4, 2012 To PsychoMachina, I have a question; Could you make Elin hair, Eyes and tails for Vanila Race ? Sorry for sudden request but if you can't, just ignore this reply because you made other Elin mode greatly. Thank you again for personal replying and great mod for sharing all of us !
GodSmack Posted October 4, 2012 Posted October 4, 2012 ok i got everything working fine' date=' but the skin texture doesnt appear its just a no textured body [/quote'] @Godsmack What files did you download? Elin-Monli_Custom_CBBE_MegaPack_2012Sep24.7z NewElinRace_MainPack_2012Sep24.7z
PsychoMachina Posted October 4, 2012 Author Posted October 4, 2012 ok i got everything working fine' date=' but the skin texture doesnt appear its just a no textured body [/quote'] @Godsmack What files did you download? Elin-Monli_Custom_CBBE_MegaPack_2012Sep24.7z NewElinRace_MainPack_2012Sep24.7z You will need to install the NER-Monli_MainPack_2012Sep24. This contains the Monli body. The custom CBBE megapack contains the custom bodies and textures for the Elins that uses the Monli body. The Ner-Monli_MainPack_2012Sep24 is in the same MediaFire folder as the NewElinRace_MainPack_2012Sep24.
PsychoMachina Posted October 4, 2012 Author Posted October 4, 2012 To PsychoMachina' date=' I have a question; Could you make Elin hair, Eyes and tails for Vanila Race ? Sorry for sudden request but if you can't, just ignore this reply because you made other Elin mode greatly. Thank you again for personal replying and great mod for sharing all of us ! [/quote'] The Elin hairs would need to adjusted or else it would clip the vanilla races head. The Elin eyes would not work without making major changes to the vanilla races face to accommodate the large eyes. This is why, when attempting to create a more human Derivelin, I had to resort to using custom face morphs designed for vanilla races to try to create big eyes. The tail can be done, but like the Elin hairs, some major adjustments need to be done to the tails. Issues would be odd placements or the tails not appearing at all.
PsychoMachina Posted October 4, 2012 Author Posted October 4, 2012 I have updated the Elin race to be Dawnguard compatible. You will still need these files: RacialCompatibility.esm Race Compatibility Dawnguard Patch v3.esp Of course you need Dawnguard installed. This is beta v1 so I need feedback on whether the new vampire Elins are able to use the Vampire Lord abilities. Suggestion Better Vampires http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/9717 If the compatibility update alone does not work or causes errors, retry with Better Vampires. Instructions ***Borrowed from the Ashen Race Dawnguard Fix (only changed the race to Elin)*** -When in-game bring up your console with the SHIFT + tilde ('). -Type player.setrace ElinRaceVampire to become a vampire. -Lastly, your character should get undressed after the previous step and you should receive a Better Vampires message in the top-left corner of your screen after 10 seconds. If not, then enable the Better Vampires functionality with the in-game Better Vampires settings: ***From Better Vampires by Brehanin*** Use the "Use Custom Race" menu option that is accessed with the {Customize or Reset Better Vampires Mod} at the bottom of your Powers to set variables and reinfect your customized race with vampirism. You will be able to play my mod as a customized race and enjoy all of the abilities and powers! Use the "Reset Better Vampires" menu option to remove this change. DOWNLOAD - NER Compatibility Patch Beta 1 http://www.mediafire.com/?z53txd0xc6aea
chasesan Posted October 5, 2012 Posted October 5, 2012 I am really confused on what I need to install, since it at best only hints at what I need. I want a normal Elin (for the most part), but with normal armor compatibility. I also want Elin armor, and hands/feet/heads and clothing that when worn actually matches skin color. I have the normal UNP installed, I am getting the UNP-BBP version of the mod now, hoping that covers most/all of it. I had got it and TeraElinRaceMod already, but the clothing didn't work with skin color (at all). TeraElinRaceMod also has glitched hands and feet. If I am doing anything wrong, please let me know.
GodSmack Posted October 5, 2012 Posted October 5, 2012 ok, how do i get the Cbbe body for elin to work with the moni with this?
PsychoMachina Posted October 5, 2012 Author Posted October 5, 2012 I am really confused on what I need to install' date=' since it at best only hints at what I need. I want a normal Elin (for the most part), but with normal armor compatibility. I also want Elin armor, and hands/feet/heads and clothing that when worn actually matches skin color. I have the normal UNP installed, I am getting the UNP-BBP version of the mod now, hoping that covers most/all of it. I had got it and TeraElinRaceMod already, but the clothing didn't work with skin color (at all). TeraElinRaceMod also has glitched hands and feet. If I am doing anything wrong, please let me know. [/quote'] Hello Chasesan If you are going for UNP then you have two options: (UNP only)NER-x117 (New Elin Race using the Children of the Sky body). (UNP-BBP) NewElinRace_MainPack_2012Sep24 + Elin Custom UNP Complete Pack 2012Sep24. Option 1 - UNP Only DOWNLOAD-NER-x117 RePack DOWNLOAD-Children of the Sky (install manually; there are body and texture options) http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=4367&pid=248546#pid248546'>http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=4367&pid=248546#pid248546 Install Children of the Sky, first, then NER-x117 Repack, second. ***IMPORTANT*** Locate 'ElinRace - Use x117 Body.esp' and move it last in the load order. This ensures the Elins will show up with the CotS body. In addition, the Children of the Sky thread also has armors (Tera included) that fits CotS and the Elin-x117. http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=4367 Option 2 - UNP-BBP DOWNLOAD-NewElinRace_MainPack_2012Sep24 This contains the base files for UNP-BBP and Tera Body. DOWNLOAD-Elin_Custom_UNP_CompletePack_2012Sep24 This contains the UNP base files, UNP-BBP bodies, custom textures, and skeleton options. Install the NewElinRace_MainPack first. Second, from the Custom_UNP_CompletePack, install the base files, then choose/install the skeletons, body, and textures (body and face) ***IMPORTATN*** Make sure 'ElinRace - Use UNP BBP body.esp' is last in the load order. As for Elin armors, I do not know of any that are converted for UNP-BBP, but the Tera Armors for Skyrim will fit them provided you also install Calyps' BBP body and skeletons. Both links are on my original post. I hope this helped. Good Luck!
chasesan Posted October 5, 2012 Posted October 5, 2012 That worked, before I was getting a CTD, but following them exactly solved the issue. So I might try the normal UNP one, thanks a lot!
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