prideslayer Posted July 27, 2012 Author Posted July 27, 2012 I've never even heard of those.. they may help or hurt, probably will just hurt. I have done all the developing and testing with exactly what the OP says, which means just wsex.esm, and then additional SI using mods like AoS or HtM. No animations, patches, etc.
ghostmist17 Posted July 30, 2012 Posted July 30, 2012 I'm using it with Humping the Mojave and MAC Revised - seems to work well' date=' so far. [/quote'] Well I sure don't have any idea how to mod, but I can certainly load a lot of esps and esms and usually make them work using FOMM. After reading the post above and researching what MAC revised was I thought I'd give it a try. I've been using SI and the most awesome wsex override for awhile with total functionality - also using HtM and AoS - everything working great. I followed the directions on the Nexus MAC thread and downloaded all the requirements etc etc (just using the resource meshes/textures as suggested in the thread, not the esps as you'll see in my loadorder below). My last game save was in Novac so I loaded my game after NVediting and BOSSing to make sure everything was functioning. Game loaded - walked out of the hotel in Novac and saw strippers in the courtyard. they're dancing and everything - all very posh! Well problems started of course. Some Novac settler tried to take advantage of one of the strippers (thank you SexoutBrutalRapers) except no animations started, they just stood there. Then when I went to chat with one of them my game crashed. I've fiddled with the load order a few times, but to no avail, crashes everytime I try to chat. Here's what I'm running; FalloutNV.esm DeadMoney.esm HonestHearts.esm OldWorldBlues.esm LonesomeRoad.esm GunRunnersArsenal.esm ClassicPack.esm MercenaryPack.esm TribalPack.esm CaravanPack.esm Lings.esm Ambient Temperature.esm Foxy Fiends.esm NosCo Companion System.esm Afterschool Special.esm AWorldOfPain(Preview).esm MoMod.esm NVInteriors_Core.esm NVInteriors_WastelandEditonAWOP.esm NVR-Strip.esm Project Nevada - Core.esm Project Nevada - Equipment.esm RZW_Master.esm Sexout.esm SexoutCommonResources.esm SexoutPregnancyV3.esm SexoutSlavery.esm SexoutLegion.esm WARZONES - Misanthropy Pure.esm wsex.esm MAC.esm ELECTRO-CITY - CompletedWorkorders.esm ELECTRO-CITY - Highways and Byways.esm Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp RZW_Portables.esm SpeedE Wheels Travel Systems.esm NVInteriors_ComboEdition_AWOP.esm Badlands.esm NVInteriors_Urban_Edition_AWOP.esm Mission Mojave - Ultimate Edition.esp MMUE-CP-Electrocity.esp Readius_NV.esp The Mod Configuration Menu.esp Living Casino Interiors.esp populatedcasino.esp RefinedCasinoPeople&Suits.esp Gomorrah3rdFloor.esp SMOTS-EC patch.esp The New Bison Steve Hotel.esp NVR-NPCs.esp NVR-Version_10.esp Project Nevada - Dead Money.esp Project Nevada - Honest Hearts.esp Project Nevada - Old World Blues.esp Project Nevada - Lonesome Road.esp Project Nevada - Gun Runners' Arsenal.esp CONELRAD 640-1240.esp WPR.esp Express Delivery.esp Goodsprings Filler.esp wsexInnuendoAnims.esp wsexInnuendoNPCs.esp mojave music radio expanded v1.1.esp NoFastTravel_NV.esp Oven Cooking.esp FlashlightNVSE.esp iL-Camouflage Ghost Bodysuit.esp LeatherBackpack - eng.esp VegasChokers.esp Armor by Race w Undies.esp AWOPDeadMoney.esp MMUE-CP-PNCore.esp MMUE-CP-PNRebalance.esp MMUE-CP-PNEquipment.esp MMUE-CP-PNOWB.esp Companions Commander.esp HJLCompanionsv103.esp Light Step ED-E.esp NVWillow.esp SunnyCompanion.esp PrimmSheriff.esp Imp's More Complex Needs.esp IMCNNV - Sorted.esp Ambient Temperature - IMCNNV.esp LUMENARIUM - Working Sunglasses ONLY.esp LUMENARIUMandELECTROCITY - Nevada Skies Replacer.esp LUMENARIUM - Bright Clear Days.esp ELECTRO-CITY - Darker Nights.esp Imp's Timescale Adjuster.esp Ambient Temperature - ITA.esp FewPosesMore NVedition.esp 7DanceFnV.esp MMUE-CP-AWOP+NVInteriors.esp desmond companion.esp RZW_BookCollection.esp RZW_RecordCollection.esp RZW_VideoCollection.esp RZW_SimpleGrab2.esp SierraMadrev3.0.esp jodragongirl.esp JuliaChangset.esp SalvagedCourierDLC04.esp Type 6.esp Type 6 - HelmlessChineseStealthSuit.esp BunnySuit-FNV.esp T6M Lingerie NV.esp KDC_Companions_Removable_Armors.esp MantisZeroSuit_ForNV.esp Lighting.esp SexyCorsets.esp Old World Blues Mojave Fixes.esp Willows More Complex Needs.esp st.esp NCRCF Reinforcements.esp RealSmokes.esp Art of Seduction.esp wsexInnuendoNPCsSlaveDialoguePatch.esp Safe ShowRaceMenu.esp Foxy Fiends NPC ONLY.esp Draz conversions.esp MAC - NOSCO PATCH.esp wsex.esp SmallerTalk.esp SexoutNCR.esp SexoutWorkingGirl.esp SexoutZAZ.esp SexoutHookupsAlt.esp SexoutFiends.esp SexoutKhans.esp SexoutKings.esp SexoutPowderGangers.esp SexoutBribes.esp SexoutSlavery_Adventures.esp SexoutStore.esp SexoutConsequences.esp SexoutBrutalRapers.esp SexoutDiscounts.esp SexoutDrugs.esp SexoutCheckMeOut.esp SexoutYield.esp SexoutBreeder.esp SexoutSS_C.esp SexoutIMCNNV.esp Tryout - Hard Prison Time.esp SexoutHowAbout.esp SexoutLust.esp SexoutConsequences EX.esp SKS Ren Hair Pack (50%).esp Total active plugins: 149 Total plugins: 149 @Snarfies; how did you get MAC to work? Maybe I'm missing something very basic I did not take into account..? Dunno - disabling MAC for now since everything was singing beautifully before. Am open to suggestions...
snarfies Posted July 30, 2012 Posted July 30, 2012 @Snarfies; how did you get MAC to work? Maybe I'm missing something very basic I did not take into account..? Dunno - disabling MAC for now since everything was singing beautifully before. I didn't do anything wild. I installed them both, and they just work. I install all of my mods using FOMM, and use Wrye Flash to make a bashed patch.
bcapps Posted August 14, 2012 Posted August 14, 2012 Pride, if I disable SI-animations will it use SexOut ones? All I ever do when i talk no matter what position I say I want, it's always oral pleasure. I like the SexOut animations better anyway.
srayesmanll Posted August 14, 2012 Posted August 14, 2012 Dude, first rule from original post: How to use: 1. Install the Main wasteland sex file, wsex.esm but install no other files from that mod. No animations, sounds, or anything. Just the ESM. You should not install any of the animations from that mod. The whole point of this mod is to replace the SI animations with the SO animations.
prideslayer Posted August 14, 2012 Author Posted August 14, 2012 Pride' date=' if I disable SI-animations will it use SexOut ones? All I ever do when i talk no matter what position I say I want, it's always oral pleasure. I like the SexOut animations better anyway. [/quote'] If you install this mod and SI according to the instructions, the only animations you'll get are the sexout ones. They will still be according to the SI 'rules' for whatever you're doing. If an SI mod 'hard coded' a particular encounter to oral, that's what you'll get.
Santr Posted August 15, 2012 Posted August 15, 2012 3. Install the wsex mod(s) of your choice. Sexual Innuendo' date=' Humping the Mojave, etc., completely. Ensure that wsex.esp is loaded AFTER those mods. Decided to check this plugin out, and immediately bumped into a problem with Deputy Beagle's sex option (Humping the Mojave): dialogue ends, but nothing happens except the PC gets stuck in place, unable to do anything. I have the latest versions of both SI (with hotfixes) and HtM installed, and your 'wsex.esp' merged into Bashed Patch: FalloutNV.esm DeadMoney.esm HonestHearts.esm OldWorldBlues.esm LonesomeRoad.esm GunRunnersArsenal.esm ClassicPack.esm MercenaryPack.esm TribalPack.esm CaravanPack.esm Caliber.esm CaliberXhonesthearts.esm CaliberXgunrunners.esm AWorldOfPain(Preview).esm More Perks.esm More Perks for Companions.esm More Perks for Dead Money.esm More Perks for Honest Hearts.esm More Perks for Old World Blues.esm More Traits.esm Interior Lighting Overhaul - Core.esm Project Nevada - Core.esm Project Nevada - Equipment.esm Selective Fire.esm Sexout.esm SexoutCommonResources.esm SexoutSlavery.esm SexoutLegion.esm wsex.esm WMVM.esm ELECTRO-CITY - CompletedWorkorders.esm oHUD.esm Lings.esm New Vegas Redesigned II.esm DFB - Random Encounters.esm Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp Mission Mojave - Ultimate Edition.esp DeadMoneyEquipmentFixes.esp Honest Hearts - Grunt Fix.esp Vurt's WFO.esp DarNifiedUINV.esp CASM.esp Centered 3rd Person Camera - Unraised.esp Readius_NV.esp The Mod Configuration Menu.esp DFB - Random Encounters - Update - MCM.esp The Weapon Mod Menu.esp Vanity Camera Smoother.esp NVHomestedCompanionEdit.esp NewVegasExtendedMapMarkers.esp Project Nevada - Dead Money.esp Project Nevada - Honest Hearts.esp Project Nevada - Old World Blues.esp Project Nevada - Lonesome Road.esp Project Nevada - Gun Runners' Arsenal.esp Selective Fire - Project Nevada.esp Improved Sound FX.esp Improved Sound FX - Weapon Sharing Fix.esp Improved Sound FX - GRA.esp Improved Sound FX - Merged Major DLCs.esp Improved Sound FX - Project Nevada.esp More Perks Update.esp More Perks for Companions Update.esp More Perks for Dead Money Update.esp More Perks for Honest Hearts Update.esp More Perks for Old World Blues Update.esp More Traits Update.esp Neck-id Slaves.esp bzArmour.esp Type3MClothing.esp Type3MClothing_HH.esp Type3MClothing_OWB.esp T6M Equipment Replacer NV.esp Sack of Holding-NV.esp K2LotusSpike_NV.esp T6M CH Raider Armor.esp K2_EM Girls_NV.esp NVR- Recommended.esp New Vegas redesigned- Honest Hearts.esp Voice dissonance fix.esp MergedLingsNVRedesigned.esp PrettierLobos.esp Cass and Veronica.esp Veronica.esp AWOPDeadMoney.esp AWOP DLC + GRA Conflict Error Fixes.esp AWOPLowRobots.esp AWOP-LowNPCS.esp AWOPLowLootGeneral.esp AWOPLowLootMWeaponsArmor.esp AWOPLowLootSkillBooks.esp Sunset Sarsaparilla Star Caps Random Luck.esp KillingKarmaFix.esp ReputationFixer.esp MMUE-CP-PNCore.esp MMUE-CP-PNRebalance.esp MMUE-CP-PNEquipment.esp MMUE-CP-PNOWB.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main NV.esp dD - Smaller Spatters Realistic.esp dD - Smaller Wounds.esp Quick Trade.esp AllCompanionsEssential 2.0b.esp HJLCompanionsv103.esp LFox Infinite Companion Ammo Repair.esp Follower Wait Time 10000000.esp Reactive People - Ultimatum.esp WeaponModsExpanded.esp VeronicaFist.esp FatigueWeaponsFix.esp Fatigue - Loot the Unconscious.esp Project Nevada - WMX.esp WMX-DeadMoney.esp WMX-HonestHearts.esp WMX-OldWorldBlues.esp WMX-LonesomeRoad.esp WMX-GunRunnersArsenal.esp WMX-PreOrderPackClassic.esp WMX-PreOrderPackCaravan.esp WMX-PreOrderPackMercenary.esp WMX-PreOrderPackTribal.esp WMX-ArenovalisTextures.esp Improved Sound FX - WMX - Weapon Sharing Fix.esp Improved Sound FX - WMX - Merged Major DLCs.esp Improved Sound FX - WMX - GRA Sharing Fix.esp EVE FNV.esp EVE FNV-[GRA Patch for EVE 1.3].esp Project Nevada - EVE.esp MMUE-CP-EVE.esp Improved Sound FX - EVE.esp WMX-EVE.esp wsexInnuendoAnims.esp wsexInnuendoNPCs.esp wsex.esp SexoutZAZ.esp SmallerTalk.esp SexoutSex.esp SexoutHookupsAlt.esp SexoutDiscounts.esp SexoutConsequences EX.esp SexoutConsequences.esp SexoutCompanions.esp SexoutKhans.esp SexoutFiends.esp SexoutNCR.esp SexoutKings.esp SexoutPowderGangers.esp SexoutWorkingGirl.esp SexoutRapist.esp SexoutBrutalRapers.esp SexoutLust.esp Alternative Start.esp ACF Darker Nights Only v5 - Dark.esp Interior Lighting Overhaul - Ultimate Edition.esp ILO - A World of Pain.esp Nevada Skies.esp ELECTRO-CITY - Imaginator.esp Imp's Timescale Adjuster.esp Merged Patch.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp Leaving only SexoutNG (2.5.69b12) active doesn't help. And nope, I didn't install any SI animations.
prideslayer Posted August 15, 2012 Author Posted August 15, 2012 Try again without the bashed patch, and again without the 'updates' to HtM, just the load order from the OP in the example load order. If that works, start adding/merging things one at a time until it breaks.
Santr Posted August 15, 2012 Posted August 15, 2012 just the load order from the OP in the example load orderThat's exactly what I tried and in that exact order. Yes' date=' with no Sexout addons - just 'Sexout.esm'.Unfortunately, there are no mentions of which versions of SI/HtM your 'wsex.esp' is compatible with, so I installed the latest (which were around long before you made the override, so I assumed that's what you used as base). Try again without the bashed patchTried without merging into bashed patch - still no go. and again without the 'updates' to HtMThat's... probably not gonna work for me. Only the latest version of HtM is said to feature STD toggle, and I've already got enough Hardcore needs to worry about. Oh well. I'll try again with some NPC that's been in SI from the earliest versions, later, just in case it's Beagle that's bugged in HtM itself.
prideslayer Posted August 15, 2012 Author Posted August 15, 2012 I'm pretty sure the STDs won't work with this mod anyway. Can always try and see. If they do, I'll have to 'break' them, because the STD stuff should be left up to sexout (and some future STD mod) as well.
Halstrom Posted August 15, 2012 Posted August 15, 2012 There are already STD's in SCR anyway so having both on would be a problem. The STD's are in the SCR MCM menu, basically just a slider that sets the chance of STD's being caught during sex, set to 0% by default. I haven't heard much feedback, so assume they are working ok, I don't think a lot of people play with STD's.
prideslayer Posted August 15, 2012 Author Posted August 15, 2012 Right, they are one of the things I deleted from sexout in "the big delete" that broke everything. Don't really thing they belong in SCR either, but if they're there, then they're there.
Santr Posted August 16, 2012 Posted August 16, 2012 Ah-ha! Success! Well, kinda. Of the SI stuff, only installed the basic version of 'Wasteland Sex module version H', 'Animation plugin v003' and 'NPC Plugin v007' - no hotfixes. Had 'wsex.esp' (the override) merged into Bashed Patch. Tested on a random Hooker outside Gomorrah. Of the Sexout stuff, had everything enabled from my load order I posted earlier. Your (Prideslayer) wsex override even registered with SexoutLust 6.0 correctly for all the effects. Now going to test if HtM v003 will work without SI hotfixes...
prideslayer Posted August 16, 2012 Author Posted August 16, 2012 Good deal, keep us informed. You shouldn't need any of the updates/hotfixes/whatever. Whatever scripts and stuff they're fixing, chances are they are no longer used. This override replaces the scripts on the two tokens given out to start sex with SI, and then simply makes sexout calls instead. No other SI stuff is run at all. Lust and everything else from sexout will work just fine -- that's the point of this mod. Stuff in particular SI mods will NOT work though. If a mod is telling you you need to go bang 50 people, that will likely not work, because the wsex counters aren't updated, and so on.
Santr Posted August 16, 2012 Posted August 16, 2012 Welp, Beagle gets no love with either v003 or v002 of HtM, and there are too few NPCs in v001 to bother with it - so HtM is out of the picture, I guess. Interestingly enough, I installed the v007-2 hotfix on the SI (clean save, of course) and tested on the same Hooker - and it works. So the SI hotfix isn't to blame, after all. Must be HtM doing something differently that 'wsex.esp' override doesn't account for.
srayesmanll Posted August 16, 2012 Posted August 16, 2012 Santr: Just a quick suggestion, but have tried disabling sexoutConsequences and the EX version, with the Deputy Beagle issue? The reason I ask is that both Consequences version do some similar things the HtM does, and one of them may have inadvertently messed with Beagle. I ran into an issue where soC original and EX conflicted with each other (EX position after original would cause an original rape dialog not to appear, original after EX worked fine). If you haven't tried that already give it a go and see.
Santr Posted August 17, 2012 Posted August 17, 2012 @ Srayesmanll: Nope, I removed SexoutConEX before I started testing yesterday, and after checking out SexoutCon in FNVEdit, it doesn't touch Beagle in any way. @ Prideslayer: I think I caught a few unassigned positions: - When sexing followers, choosing either vaginal or anal sex plays oral sex animations instead. - When doing 'favors' for a discount at merchants, the merchant does oral on the player.
prideslayer Posted August 17, 2012 Author Posted August 17, 2012 @ Srayesmanll: Nope' date=' I removed SexoutConEX before I started testing yesterday, and after checking out SexoutCon in FNVEdit, it doesn't touch Beagle in any way. @ Prideslayer: I think I caught a few unassigned positions: - When sexing followers, choosing either vaginal or anal sex plays oral sex animations instead. - When doing 'favors' for a discount at merchants, the merchant does oral on the player. [/quote'] Both of those are really old bugs from the early versions of the mod.. you're definitely using the latest one from the OP right, and not one you downloaded a long time ago? Sometimes people download the new one but forget to install it.
Santr Posted August 17, 2012 Posted August 17, 2012 @ Prideslayer:I think I caught a few unassigned positions: - When sexing followers' date=' choosing either vaginal or anal sex plays oral sex animations instead. - When doing 'favors' for a discount at merchants, the merchant does oral on the player. [/quote']Both of those are really old bugs from the early versions of the mod.. you're definitely using the latest one from the OP right, and not one you downloaded a long time ago? Sometimes people download the new one but forget to install it. I downloaded it two days ago, that's probably the latest? Oh, I just remembered that I'm still using the 007-2 hotfixed SI. Will try without the hotfix and report back.
Santr Posted August 17, 2012 Posted August 17, 2012 Nope, oral instead of vaginal/anal without the hotfix, as well.
hornyboy Posted August 19, 2012 Posted August 19, 2012 i'm only getting oral too,my character(female) dont even give bjs when i select the bj option, and always on the receiving side never gives.
deathparade Posted August 20, 2012 Posted August 20, 2012 Say is there a way to remove the no whining?
prideslayer Posted August 20, 2012 Author Posted August 20, 2012 Say is there a way to remove the no whining? What does this even mean?
deathparade Posted August 20, 2012 Posted August 20, 2012 Well sometimes the NPC's refuse i don't like that > i mean there is a option to force but not for threesomes
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