Reena_Ribona Posted July 10, 2021 Posted July 10, 2021 4 hours ago, DeepBlueFrog said: A short list of some highlights from the upcoming update. - a redesigned MCM menu - new menu options to disable skin/color changes - an option to infect NPCs with parasites as the Chaurus Queen - NPCs can be also infected if you have sex while carryings full body parasites (tentacles or blackreach spores), face and hip huggers and spriggan fungi. - as a Chaurus Queen, the player will produce eggs after sex with Spiders, Chaurus and other NPCs - retractable bound combat claws when wearing the Chaurus armor or Body (with powers to manually equip them) - several bug and quest stages fixes - tested all manual equip options - DD5.1 as a new requirement (I did most of the tests with DD4 and I am not using anything new from 5.1 yet should it should still work fine with the previous version) You can find a full breakdown of the changes here: https://github.com/SkyrimLL/SkLLmods/milestone/102?closed=1 im excited for this
DeepBlueFrog Posted July 10, 2021 Author Posted July 10, 2021 The latest files are up with these changes: I am sure several issues remain but that is the most I can do at the moment. Let me know if you run into anything urgent. RELEASE NOTES for milestone Parasites 2021-07-09 Enhancements: Add MCM checkbox to disable Chaurus Queen base skin Add MCM checkbox to control chance of infection of NPC (disable with 0) Add MCM checkbox to disable hairloss (spriggan/queen) Add MCM checkbox to disable skin color changes (spriggan/queen) Restructure MCM menu Reduced cost of pheromone potions and increased cost of Chaurus Queen Heart Reduced intensity of acid spit and acid digest Added bound blade (dagger) to Chaurus Armor and Body Prevent Chaurus tentacle from retracting after sex As a full Chaurus Queen, the player will produce eggs after sex Disable spriggan flare effect when equipping the armor pieces Add chance of infection of partners after sex Simplify Separate Orgasm (SLSO) code As a Queen, sex with NPCs may result in their infection with a parasite As a Queen, sex with Chaurus will produce up to 100 chaurus eggs If Hormones is available, Chaurus Queen main skin color will drift to blue Fixed texture paths on some parasite meshes Force faction ownership only with chaurus and spiders (not their allies) when wearing Chaurus Queen armor Enable Chaurus Queen level 4 in case of synchronization issues between clearing devices and adding armor Disable open mouth when wearing Chaurus Queen mask Disable 'About Lastelle' for Lami once final chapter is engaged (Stage 230) Add events to infect NPCs Add quest stage to force player to use the Chaurus Seed Spawn spell before talking to the Elder Roots Bug Fixes: After manual check in MCM, the queen mask can be equipped manually but it is not visible until you run a full refresh of parasites After manual check in MCM, the spider penis is equipped but the menu checkbox is not set After manual check in MCM, chaurus worms do not appear anymore Eating chaurus eggs and spider eggs are missing proper quest completion stages Tracking and Charm powers are not granted if player eats eggs as alternative path The Chaurus Queen random event counter is out of sync with the other parasite event counters Hidden Change function don't respect max values for nodes set in MCM Praying at ancient altar doesn't clear quest objective for Spriggan parasite Spriggan Friendly faction is not detected in MCM (Parasites) SLP_FaceHuggerGagScript does not compile with DD 5.0 1
R113 Posted July 10, 2021 Posted July 10, 2021 It is so nice to see that this mod has so active development. Definitely one of my favorite mods. Thanks for all the updates and support! 1
HermausMoron Posted July 10, 2021 Posted July 10, 2021 On 7/7/2021 at 11:50 PM, DeepBlueFrog said: Are you using the latest version? I just tested everything around that stage and it is working fine. Just in case, the next version should be out in a couple of days only. Upgraded to the latest version, still running into this problem. Worse, when I try to use setstage to move past this, I seem to skip the ritual entirely.
DeepBlueFrog Posted July 10, 2021 Author Posted July 10, 2021 (edited) 57 minutes ago, HermausMoron said: Upgraded to the latest version, still running into this problem. Worse, when I try to use setstage to move past this, I seem to skip the ritual entirely. Here are the conditions to trigger that dialogue with Danica about starting the ritual. The stage to complete that dialogue is 285, but the quest stage itself doesn't include the trigger to start the ritual. That is included in the dialogue itself. If you want to skip the ritual, set stage 289, but that will be missing some initializations required for the queen's progression. I fixed that for the next version. I will wait a little bit for more bug reports and I will post a patch tomorrow night that will let you skip the dialogue to start the ritual or skip the ritual altogether. Edited July 10, 2021 by DeepBlueFrog
DonQuiWho Posted July 10, 2021 Posted July 10, 2021 @DeepBlueFrog Thanks for the update. After installing it, and restarting my game from the point where I got the (slime?) creature protective cloak firing in all combat situations and also the additional 'Spriggan Fail' thing when engaged with MTBs chainbeasts, it's good to see that both of those seem to have disappeared ? So tyvm! 1
Reena_Ribona Posted July 10, 2021 Posted July 10, 2021 I have an idea for when you get to the "Being the queen" part of the the mod and I want to know your input DBF (I know your not thinking that far ahead just your input would be nice) so I was thinking something out of sneak tools page where people don't know your the queen when your in queen form at first they'll behave like they don't know you unless they see you visibly change (or take your mask off) giving a consequence side where you can be an evil queen where id imagine vilagilentes, hunters, etc want to kill this creature but are a loved dragonborn that everyone likes not knowing your the "creature" making going out as the queen hard oh also another thing I literally JUST thought about for the eventual being queen part is the best way to put it infest a hold or something along those lines so that the captured hold has to take care of the queen and her babies i dont know about like complete takeover (that'd be crazy cool though)
DeepBlueFrog Posted July 10, 2021 Author Posted July 10, 2021 30 minutes ago, Reena_Ribona said: I have an idea for when you get to the "Being the queen" part of the the mod and I want to know your input DBF (I know your not thinking that far ahead just your input would be nice) so I was thinking something out of sneak tools page where people don't know your the queen when your in queen form at first they'll behave like they don't know you unless they see you visibly change (or take your mask off) giving a consequence side where you can be an evil queen where id imagine vilagilentes, hunters, etc want to kill this creature but are a loved dragonborn that everyone likes not knowing your the "creature" making going out as the queen hard oh also another thing I literally JUST thought about for the eventual being queen part is the best way to put it infest a hold or something along those lines so that the captured hold has to take care of the queen and her babies i dont know about like complete takeover (that'd be crazy cool though) Thanks for the idea. I tried making the Chaurus Queen armor turn people hostile against you, but that created too many issues with other quests. Right now people will see the transformation as a cool, unique armor (blacksmiths will even comment on what you are wearing). As for taking over a hold. You cannot enslave a hold but you can infect people with parasites yourself and you can even have sex with NPCs to produce more eggs.
Reena_Ribona Posted July 10, 2021 Posted July 10, 2021 1 minute ago, DeepBlueFrog said: Thanks for the idea. I tried making the Chaurus Queen armor turn people hostile against you, but that created too many issues with other quests. Right now people will see the transformation as a cool, unique armor (blacksmiths will even comment on what you are wearing). As for taking over a hold. You cannot enslave a hold but you can infect people with parasites yourself and you can even have sex with NPCs to produce more eggs. well I don't really mean enslave per say cause id imagine that'd be crazy on the scripts and stuff i was thinking more like its just now your hold and your the jarl "cough queen cough" more like whiteruns normal routine happens but now chaurus are walking about hence take care of your babies or a compromise way is "hold" you build ground up (probably using egg power) to create a nest as this hold and if your world status is good you could even i guess do a tradingesk system where you give chaurus type ingredients in some sorta trade system (id say like sheded chitin, unfertlized eggs, etc for lore purpose) again this hold bit was an out of the blue one honestly im more about the sneak tool esk systrm (or queens alingment i guess) as i like to roleplay hiding my queenly form in public
Reena_Ribona Posted July 10, 2021 Posted July 10, 2021 what powers and stuff does the spriggan curse give and what causes it to progress (im not into the slavery part of skyrim mods so i never touched sanguines debauch and learned when it was from that)
joruuu Posted July 10, 2021 Posted July 10, 2021 should these parasites "hip hugger" and "chaurus worms" have animation ? worms not working atm, but i remember seeing animated "hip hugger" but i cant get it to work so just askin am i idiot or....
b00tyblues Posted July 10, 2021 Posted July 10, 2021 (edited) Thanks for the latest update DBF! The tracking and charm powers are now finally being granted properly after eating the eggs, and my character is properly added to the chaurus and spider factions to make them non-hostile. Still having a few issues though: -The queen claws powers are added after unlocking the first chaurus armor. I'm guessing this was supposed to be added after unlocking the queen armor, but instead it's added at the same time as the blade power (post-chaurus egg consumption) -Charm spells still don't trigger animations with spiders/chaurus (only sexlab matchmaker's "irresistibly attractive" spells seem to work for that) -The blade and claw powers are equipped automatically during combat, which auto-removes any other weapons/spells you had equipped before -Unfortunately I'm still having that follower issue (even after completely avoiding entering frostflow/blackreach and just manually setting the stages to unlock the queen armor). Not 100% sure it's this mod that's causing it, but I've tried updating NFF and cleaning it, but still it persists after passing a certain stage in the queen quest.... Edited July 10, 2021 by b00tyblues 1
roofus__ Posted July 10, 2021 Posted July 10, 2021 all i can say is wow, ill update the mods a bit later today for feedback. had a lot of issues from last update so i gave it a rest. but everything looks quite promising. also with the eggs being produced from sex with chaurus, very nice, i used the egg factory mod before to fill in that missing gap from lack of spider/chaurus eggs before so its nice to see that having a function. as for skin changes and all i hope it works better for me then it did last time. never had a glow for long enough to enjoy it. got body changes and all from falmer reasons but as soon as i got them to quite slapping me with their goo and the severe screen brightness away no glow but ill play around with the new version. and hop i dont need to make default skin tone blue for it all to work out right --side note, im rather derpy, i would love to continue using cbbe bodies but there is something aweful with the hips that i dont know how to fix. hollow strips, as well as not having a cbbe hands option when bodybuilding forcing me to use unnp hands for equipment (makes things wierd like seeing the wrist thru the body)
DeepBlueFrog Posted July 10, 2021 Author Posted July 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Reena_Ribona said: what powers and stuff does the spriggan curse give and what causes it to progress (im not into the slavery part of skyrim mods so i never touched sanguines debauch and learned when it was from that) The Spriggan infection progresses from exposure to water. The random events trigger if you are swimming or during rain and storms. The powers are still evolving: - when you are attcked, the roots can cover you with the equivalent to Oakflesh. They can also attack and poison your enemies, and call nearby wildlife for help. - the roots also have enchatments like resist disease, reduced speechcraft and I think, waterbreathing for the mask. 1 hour ago, joruuu said: should these parasites "hip hugger" and "chaurus worms" have animation ? worms not working atm, but i remember seeing animated "hip hugger" but i cant get it to work so just askin am i idiot or.... None of my meshes have animations. There is a separate mod for Parasites Animations but I haven't used it yet as it was unstable last time I checked, 10 minutes ago, b00tyblues said: Thanks for the latest update DBF! The tracking and charm powers are now finally being granted properly after eating the eggs, and my character is properly added to the chaurus and spider factions to make them non-hostile. Still having a few issues though: -The queen claws powers are added after unlocking the first chaurus armor. I'm guessing this was supposed to be added after unlocking the queen armor, but instead it's added at the same time as the blade power (post-chaurus egg consumption) Good catch. I added a condition to grant the powers after the full body armor is enabled. 10 minutes ago, b00tyblues said: -Charm spells still don't trigger animations with spiders/chaurus (only sexlab matchmaker's "irresistibly attractive" spells seem to work for that) I gave up on that for now. I will revisit it another time. 10 minutes ago, b00tyblues said: -The blade and claw powers are equipped automatically during combat, which auto-removes any other weapons/spells you had equipped before That is an unfortunate side effect but it is deliberate. Just like wearing chaurus armors prevent you from having a backpack. It is meant as a way to force a different play style. 10 minutes ago, b00tyblues said: -Unfortunately I'm still having that follower issue (even after completely avoiding entering frostflow/blackreach and just manually setting the stages to unlock the queen armor). Not 100% sure it's this mod that's causing it, but I've tried updating NFF and cleaning it, but still it persists after passing a certain stage in the queen quest.... I don't know what NFF does about followers or why Frostflow would impact that. There is a known issue with chaurus spawns and explosive spiders. They can could toward your follower count, and max out your number of available followers very quickly (and trigger the bug where you end up far away from doors after going through them). I am still researching ways to minimize these issues.
DeepBlueFrog Posted July 10, 2021 Author Posted July 10, 2021 (edited) I will post a patch to the latest version maybe tonight. That patch will include an update to the 'I am a chaurus breeder' scenario from CCAS. If you have CCAS, Stories and Parasites, you will be able to start right after the equivalent of the Ritual... that is with the Seed Stone inserted and ready to go. I am adding some wiring to allow you to talk to Danica and get the rest of the quest done that way. The Sanctuary will be cleared automatically and available to talk to the Elder Roots. There will probably be some inconsistencies in dialogues but I will fix them over time. This will allow me to troubleshoot things faster regarding the Chaurus Queen. And it will allow you to play as the queen a lot faster if you want to. Edited July 10, 2021 by DeepBlueFrog 2
Draknowin Posted July 10, 2021 Posted July 10, 2021 On 1/17/2021 at 6:03 PM, Aensland_src said: SL_Parasites_BodySlide_UUNP_HDT.rarFor the people looking for a Bodyslide conversion of the assets(UUNP HDT), here it is, made it for myself, and I'm lazy, so I just made it for the Parasite related armors didn't bother with the priest outfits, haven't tested them in game yet so give them a try if you want to. For anyone who might be able to answer - I've tried using this to get HDT physics on the parasites, but it only makes my character's body have physics, not the 'armor' itself. How do I fix this, or are there any other working HDT conversions for the parasite armors?
Reena_Ribona Posted July 10, 2021 Posted July 10, 2021 one thing that'd be nice is make the elder roots' (queens avatar thing too) dialogue skippable when talking to them as I've read there lines about a dozen times and they take forever to say one line of dialogue
b00tyblues Posted July 10, 2021 Posted July 10, 2021 (edited) 49 minutes ago, DeepBlueFrog said: I gave up on that for now. I will revisit it another time. Understandable, at least there's still a workaround set of spells for that. 49 minutes ago, DeepBlueFrog said: That is an unfortunate side effect but it is deliberate. Just like wearing chaurus armors prevent you from having a backpack. It is meant as a way to force a different play style. Fair enough I can see that being necessary rp wise. Though sometimes even when I already have the claws equipped, they'll re-equip randomly 49 minutes ago, DeepBlueFrog said: I don't know what NFF does about followers or why Frostflow would impact that. There is a known issue with chaurus spawns and explosive spiders. They can could toward your follower count, and max out your number of available followers very quickly (and trigger the bug where you end up far away from doors after going through them). I am still researching ways to minimize these issues. The only reason I mentioned frostflow/blackreach is that this is when the bug first started appearing (followers will still follow but they'll remain at a far distance and be slow to catch up). First testing I was able to avoid the issue by avoiding those cells completely, even after spawning a full brood. Especially the dimensional rift since every time I exit it, there is that same game engine bug that breaks certain hotkeys until reloading a save. But now for some reason the follower bug still comes back after completely avoiding frostflow/blackreach. I'll do more testing to see if there is a specific quest stage that causes this. Edited July 10, 2021 by b00tyblues
b00tyblues Posted July 10, 2021 Posted July 10, 2021 10 minutes ago, Draknowin said: For anyone who might be able to answer - I've tried using this to get HDT physics on the parasites, but it only makes my character's body have physics, not the 'armor' itself. How do I fix this, or are there any other working HDT conversions for the parasite armors? This guide may be useful for you: https://tesmistel.tumblr.com/post/149567999810/outfit-studio-conversion-guide . Note the process of adding HDT to certain meshes is dicey and I'm not very good at it myself.
Reena_Ribona Posted July 10, 2021 Posted July 10, 2021 1 hour ago, DeepBlueFrog said: The Spriggan infection progresses from exposure to water. The random events trigger if you are swimming or during rain and storms. actually next question so i have the spriggan curse no armor seed stone just has been lodged in my character with the spriggan thing with the queen thing does it stop all progression on the spriggan curse, just armor additions and lets the powers (meaning spells/abilitys) grow? i dont imagine it lets the armor grow but does the powers from the curse still build and if so is there a point where it does stop it?
DeepBlueFrog Posted July 10, 2021 Author Posted July 10, 2021 19 minutes ago, Reena_Ribona said: actually next question so i have the spriggan curse no armor seed stone just has been lodged in my character with the spriggan thing with the queen thing does it stop all progression on the spriggan curse, just armor additions and lets the powers (meaning spells/abilitys) grow? i dont imagine it lets the armor grow but does the powers from the curse still build and if so is there a point where it does stop it? Some powers like enchantments are linked to the armor pieces, so these will remain dormant when the queen stage is activated. Other powers like the attack/defense shields should activate even if the chaurus queen is on.
b00tyblues Posted July 10, 2021 Posted July 10, 2021 Yet another update on the following bug with NFF: I've narrowed down the cause to a conflict with the follower count in NFF, as you suspected. I still bypassed frostflow/blackreach to be safe, but for a while I could safely have a follower with normal behavior while in full queen armor (setting every remaining quest stage up to 400, except 395, which I'm guessing is what triggers the blackreach dragon). The temporarily allied chauruses in the rift might also be contributing to the follower count bug as well but not sure. If possible, the best way to avoid this issue would be to disable the auto-spawn via MCM. That way chaurus could only spawn on the player brood call/dismiss spells, and avoid potential issues with follower management, and hostility between followers and spawn (sometimes a stray spell from a follower will accidentally hit a chaurus, turning them hostile against a follower). I know this would break immersion since the spawn is supposed to be a self defense, but an MCM option to disable the auto-spawn for those who need it is the only way to avoid conflicts with followers that I can think of.
FlippinPippin Posted July 10, 2021 Posted July 10, 2021 (edited) I sifted through a couple pages of the thread and sadly cant find an issue to breast/belly/butt scaling not working. Im running CBBE HDT, but I have tried switching to various other types such as BBP or TBBP as previously suggested by OP in the thread, but it just seems to not budge. Other preg/inflation mods work perfectly, except this one. Im also using all prereq mods etc plus I also tried distancing the belly node a bit in Bodyslide, which also has not helped. Has anyone come up with a fix? I also forgot to mention, that when manually infecting my character with, lets say, spider eggs or the chaurus worm, it gets instantly expelled from the characters body. Any idea what could be causing that? Edited July 10, 2021 by FlippinPippin Adding missing info.
DeepBlueFrog Posted July 10, 2021 Author Posted July 10, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, b00tyblues said: Yet another update on the following bug with NFF: I've narrowed down the cause to a conflict with the follower count in NFF, as you suspected. I still bypassed frostflow/blackreach to be safe, but for a while I could safely have a follower with normal behavior while in full queen armor (setting every remaining quest stage up to 400, except 395, which I'm guessing is what triggers the blackreach dragon). The temporarily allied chauruses in the rift might also be contributing to the follower count bug as well but not sure. If possible, the best way to avoid this issue would be to disable the auto-spawn via MCM. That way chaurus could only spawn on the player brood call/dismiss spells, and avoid potential issues with follower management, and hostility between followers and spawn (sometimes a stray spell from a follower will accidentally hit a chaurus, turning them hostile against a follower). I know this would break immersion since the spawn is supposed to be a self defense, but an MCM option to disable the auto-spawn for those who need it is the only way to avoid conflicts with followers that I can think of. I have an idea about what is causing it and how to fix it. I need to run some tests first. Edit: I think it is a good news / bad news thing. The good news is, I think I isolated the issue. When charming spriggans, chaurus and spiders, I was using the SetPlayerTeamMate function to make the creature follow you. The bad news is, I never released them. Which means they still count towards active followers even though they are long gone and I can't find any way to get a list of active followers to clear them out. I should have that hole plugged for the next update but I don't have a way to clear things up for existing games with that issue. Not yet at least. Edited July 11, 2021 by DeepBlueFrog 1
DeepBlueFrog Posted July 11, 2021 Author Posted July 11, 2021 A new version is up with these additional changes (look for items recently closed). https://github.com/SkyrimLL/SkLLmods/milestone/102?closed=1 I will update Stories tomorrow with some changes to enable the new player start as a chaurus queen (past the ritual stage). 1
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