Guest Posted June 14, 2016 Posted June 14, 2016 DDproductions youtube vid from yesterday (june 12/16)- gears have been grinded and jimmies have been rustled  i was morbidly curious if CBBE would actually ever be on bethnet (maybe you were too) or any other of the communitie's most coveted of mods- and coveted it most certainly-fucking-is so yes it is Cringey and Pathetically Thirsty (desperate) as fuck  There was an upload there code-named "PipBoy remover" (or TNNB) http://giphy.com/gifs/austin-powers-dr-evil-air-quotes-qs6ev2pm8g9dS  which is actually Nude CBBE and the sexy unzipped vault suit too  ~ DeathStalker
ousnius Posted June 14, 2016 Posted June 14, 2016 CBBE has been stolen and uploaded to Bethesda.net about 15 times already, by different users, the same users under different names and within different mods. All of them have been removed from the site.
Guest Posted June 14, 2016 Posted June 14, 2016 cant watch the damn video, copywrite music... fu gema, crap.
Guest Posted June 14, 2016 Posted June 14, 2016 CBBE has been stolen and uploaded to Bethesda.net about 15 times already, by different users, the same users under different names and within different mods. All of them have been removed from the site. when I went over to bethnet I just straight up searched cbbe thinking maybe caliente would port over a sfw version I didnt actually expect something low brow as this
darkconsole Posted June 14, 2016 Posted June 14, 2016 my favourite comment was the one that said "my pipboy is invisible in third person" on a mod literally called pipboy remover.
Guest Posted June 14, 2016 Posted June 14, 2016 I can't watch this.. People feeling entitled to steal mods.. Ugh.
Guest Posted June 14, 2016 Posted June 14, 2016 I can't watch this.. People feeling entitled to steal mods.. Ugh. Â it really is hard to watch, i thought i was the only one on that boat
Akzyra Posted June 14, 2016 Posted June 14, 2016 I will post it here again because it is even worse if you see ALL the mods that get removed from beth.netMy site Beth (Mod)Watch - See all mods ever uploaded. And comments from removed mods if the data is still there. What it does:  - Get latest mods every few minutes (meaning of mods are removed/unlisted very fast my site will not list them)  - Update the ratings for mods fairly often  - Every 30min the availability is checked on the lastest 800 mods Comments may be accesible on removed/hidden mods for some time. Be disgusted by comments if you want. I take the liberty to blacklist users who are known for stealing.  I may look into creating a better version that stores ALL mod information. Not sure how I want to the system though.   With 5000games uploading 2 more mods and not being banned, I am just waiting till I see Modstesting24 again....  Â
darkconsole Posted June 14, 2016 Posted June 14, 2016 I will post it here again because it is even worse if you see ALL the mods that get removed from beth.net My site Beth (Mod)Watch - See all mods ever uploaded. And comments from removed mods if the data is still there.   What it does:  - Get latest mods every few minutes (meaning of mods are removed/unlisted very fast my site will not list them)  - Update the ratings for mods fairly often  - Every 30min the availability is checked on the lastest 800 mods Comments may be accesible on removed/hidden mods for some time. Be disgusted by comments if you want. I take the liberty to blacklist users who are known for stealing.  I may look into creating a better version that stores ALL mod information. Not sure how I want to the system though.    With 5000games uploading 2 more mods and not being banned, I am just waiting till I see Modstesting24 again....  i was looking to do something like this but i wanted one more feature, the ability to put my email address in with a few keywords and whenever a mod with those keywords in the description (since the titles are often lies) was found it would shoot me a message so i could go see if i need to engage dick mode or not.  i did find out that at least as of last week bethesda was not range checking their api. nope, they still arent. here. have all the mods ever uploaded at one time. https://mods.services.bethesda.net/ugc-workshop/list?page=1&number_results=9001&product=FALLOUT4&sort=published
Guest Posted June 14, 2016 Posted June 14, 2016 I will post it here again because it is even worse if you see ALL the mods that get removed from beth.net My site Beth (Mod)Watch - See all mods ever uploaded. And comments from removed mods if the data is still there.   What it does:  - Get latest mods every few minutes (meaning of mods are removed/unlisted very fast my site will not list them)  - Update the ratings for mods fairly often  - Every 30min the availability is checked on the lastest 800 mods Comments may be accesible on removed/hidden mods for some time. Be disgusted by comments if you want. I take the liberty to blacklist users who are known for stealing.  I may look into creating a better version that stores ALL mod information. Not sure how I want to the system though.    With 5000games uploading 2 more mods and not being banned, I am just waiting till I see Modstesting24 again....  in the words of manslayer "intriguing... but highly disturbing", thanks! it really is interesting
D_ManXX2 Posted June 14, 2016 Posted June 14, 2016 pathathic these new types of users. Bethesda brought this up to themself.Â
E_Nigma Posted June 14, 2016 Posted June 14, 2016 This was supposed to be great, a way to close the divide between console and PC and end the infighting between gamers. But instead we are met with a culture clash from a community that doesn't understand that self moderation is what has held this whole thing up. I have never seen a problem with mods being uploaded to sites they don't belong or without permission like this. It hurts us all, i hope they get this sorted out before S:SE or its going to get much much worse.
GrimReaper Posted June 14, 2016 Posted June 14, 2016 Reminder that you need to own Fallout 4 for the PC to be able to use the CK and upload shit to beth.net  Console players just download what is uploaded, much like PC players do. If you see a mod that looks cool, are you seriously investigating if it is stolen or do you just hit the download button? Also I like to remind everyone that the steam workshop was plagued by similar problems.
Guest endgameaddiction Posted June 15, 2016 Posted June 15, 2016 This was supposed to be great, a way to close the divide between console and PC and end the infighting between gamers. But instead we are met with a culture clash from a community that doesn't understand that self moderation is what has held this whole thing up. I have never seen a problem with mods being uploaded to sites they don't belong or without permission like this. It hurts us all, i hope they get this sorted out before S:SE or its going to get much much worse. Â And in 4 and a half months Skyrim mods will be at disposal for console players. Rinse repeat. And it's back to the same scenario. It doesn't look good for the mod community for TES and Fallout. And for those who are absent from the mod community cannot defend their mods that can be stolen and ported by then. Only to return and find out it was stolen, converted, uploaded and have to go through a process of proving it's theirs because Bethesda is just a bunch of cheap whores who can't police their own website for thievery and take affirmative action but instead leave it up to the mod author. Regardless how many people report it being stolen. Â It's sad to see what the mod community has done for Bethesda and this is how they repay them.
Akzyra Posted June 15, 2016 Posted June 15, 2016 Reminder that you need to own Fallout 4 for the PC to be able to use the CK and upload shit to beth.net  Console players just download what is uploaded, much like PC players do. If you see a mod that looks cool, are you seriously investigating if it is stolen or do you just hit the download button? Also I like to remind everyone that the steam workshop was plagued by similar problems.  Yes, many console players are not aware. Even with the drama by now. Many console player know about stolen mods, but can't easily indentify them because apparently in the ingame browser the information is even more limited. The system is shit, and to think it was made by rather well paid individuals. They probably aren't at fault because Bethesda just wanted what we see now and whoever thought up their plans for the mod system should be fired. And re-schooled. The system is WORSE than the workshop....  And there are the player who defend stolen mods because the just want the content. And while they (hopefully) are the minority, they are VERY vocal. Same problem with the console/PCMR war: Humble and normal players are silent, but some plebs start pulling the whole scene down. (Same reason mod authors hate users)   Berate plebs who think "stealing is OK because it is free" (I want to steal their free oxygen ..) Cause a even bigger shitstorm, Bethesda needs to have losses before they will do something. Or huge media coverage. Shit need to be done for change. I don't have a good idea except recording every mod ever uploaded but I am sure other will come up for something.  ----- bad idea from here, do not do this ------ Maybe upload some very nice NSFW content ala. LoversLab under a new account because it is so easy. Then wait will until some mum or dad see their 12-15 yo kid play with that on the living room TV. Who will the outraged parent cry to? Modders? Nooooooooo!! See Mojang and "pay2win" Server fiasco. Mojang recieved complains about kids spending money on server that are hosted by 3rd parties.
smudge78 Posted June 15, 2016 Posted June 15, 2016 I would think because of CBBE's high polygon count the consoles would struggle like hell to run it?
Akzyra Posted June 15, 2016 Posted June 15, 2016 if is just one nude char, it would be fine. But strip whole Diamond City and yes. But if you want a console to cry there are easier ways to do it I guess.Now to why I came to post:Â Lookie here, the "mod stealing" mentality has progressed to nexusmods:Â srw345 - BANNED He stole trainwiz's mod about 8min after upload (if the Google Cache view is one timezone away from me). But got banned for defending his stolen mod, not stealing. Well nexus mods resolved it I think one hour (if my time calculations are correct again)
Guest Posted June 15, 2016 Posted June 15, 2016 if is just one nude char, it would be fine. But strip whole Diamond City and yes. But if you want a console to cry there are easier ways to do it I guess. Now to why I came to post:  Lookie here, the "mod stealing" mentality has progressed to nexusmods: srw345 - BANNED He stole trainwiz's mod about 8min after upload (if the Google Cache view is one timezone away from me). But got banned for defending his stolen mod, not stealing. Well nexus mods resolved it I think one hour (if my time calculations are correct again)  my 2 cents  they steal the mods and act like Robbin Hoods to get off on being popular for doing nothing (the equivalent of the creeps that loiter around a liquor store and buy booze/porn for kids so they can be cool for 15minutes) and doing the complete opposite of contributing. theyre basically the dregs of the community on the same par of those people that gave the mod authors insurmountable shit for the valve-paywall of 2014  I think bethnet should make jobs and hire moderator/filter teams that test the mods for authenticity and set a weekly upload cap so their isnt an insurmountable number of mods like the 3,000 in the few weeks bethnet was up making it very difficult to review each one for nudes, piracy, et al. And obviously modernize their shit tier system  also Bethnets and Nexus' ban hammer should be swung harder- i heard Blizzard is banning ip addresses and doing the nearly inexplicable with their ban hammer regarding Overwatch cheaters, obviously these bootleggers are worse than some DDOS or Bug abuserÂ
E_Nigma Posted June 15, 2016 Posted June 15, 2016 I would think because of CBBE's high polygon count the consoles would struggle like hell to run it? Â The author said that was one of the reasons they were very hesitant to bring it to consoles, 4k textures and stuff
Halstrom Posted June 15, 2016 Posted June 15, 2016 Wrong as it may be to upload another persons mod, I suspect its more just because people want to get it onto their consoles and are hiding it under a false title, it probably the only way console users can install it through BethNet? Â If I had a console I guess I might have to do that to get some mods into it and perhaps some close friends consoles, but I would delete the download pretty quick afterwards and not go posting pictures on the internet about it. Â Now if the uploaded it as CBBE and claimed they created it in anyway to reap in donations that would be closer to theft. In real theft the owner loses the item in the process.
FGmodule Posted June 15, 2016 Posted June 15, 2016 Bethesda are implementing Steam account linking, so in order to upload mods you have to link your Beth.net account to your Steam account and have a valid FO4 key. Once that is implemented, if you get banned for stealing mods you'll need to purchase a new copy of FO4 to be an uploader again. This should really cut down the level of mod theft, at least to Steam Workshop levels. Â For now, we the modding community just need to be vigilant and report every stolen mod we see.
D_ManXX2 Posted June 15, 2016 Posted June 15, 2016 The worse case scenario would be modders start to dissapear and not releasing new stuff. Then bethesda finally killed the game genre. Good job. no mods no profit.Â
Halstrom Posted June 15, 2016 Posted June 15, 2016 The worse case scenario would be modders start to dissapear and not releasing new stuff. Then bethesda finally killed the game genre. Good job. no mods no profit.Modders will only disappear when the modding tools disappear. For every modder who gets his nose out of joint and storms out over theft or paid mods there's plenty of new ones to take their place, no one is irreplaceable on the internet.
D_ManXX2 Posted June 15, 2016 Posted June 15, 2016 yes but if the best once dissapears. it will halt allot of mods especially tools making like skse etc.. The new once will have to adept there attitude or else they too will dissapear if there mods get stolen like the other modders. I am not sure how this will make modding a happy ending knowing before hand that you need to accept that people will just steal your mods. maybe we will see allot of stuf never released again unless it is youtube video showcasing a private mod.
Halstrom Posted June 15, 2016 Posted June 15, 2016 yes but if the best once dissapears. it will halt allot of mods especially tools making like skse etc.. The new once will have to adept there attitude or else they too will dissapear if there mods get stolen like the other modders. I am not sure how this will make modding a happy ending knowing before hand that you need to accept that people will just steal your mods. maybe we will see allot of stuf never released again unless it is youtube video showcasing a private mod.Well its always going to happen regardless of any whining and storming out that occurs, the best modders 10 years ago aren't necessarily the best today and todays best probably won't be the best tomorrow and if quitting modding is their thing its their choice.
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