Paradise Halls Enhanced (pahe) repacked with the customary addons

[kadsend]

7 hours ago, Psalam said:

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Not with this mod. Off hand, I'm not aware of any mod that offers that ability although there are some that make the player, as a slave, crawl. I think that Musje is looking at adding this function to ZAP9 when it is released (no promises).

Oh...well I'm sick of being a slave to crawl around lol. Would be neato to force them to crawl tough, I add as a suggestion

[Psalam]

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Just now, kadsend said:

Oh...well I'm sick of being a slave to crawl around lol. Would be neato to force them to crawl tough, I add as a suggestion

 

 

If you get Musje's mod, Home Sweet Home, you can click on that MCM menu for your slaves to greet you on their knees. Not quite the same as crawling but it might help you recover seeing someone else scuff their knees.

[Psalam]

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7 minutes ago, joenothing12 said:

is there a way to force-remove a slave?  I ended up enslaving a giant, eventually it died but remained in the slave list.  A way to clean that up would be quite helpful, restarting doesn't seem to help.

 

 

I haven't had much experience with this but I have had some. What has worked best for me is to use the command "teleport slave to me." Then I kill them. This has worked for me in cleaning them out of the list.

[Dawnstar Guard]

Just installed this mod and all of it's addons, ran it through FNIS. 

However I can't get it to work in-game. Whenever an npc goes down on their knees, I can just talk to them with normal dialogue options. Nothing pahe related. 
The collar, whip, and spells all spawn in game and I have them. The mcm for the mod also seems to be a bit finicky, I can't actually click any options. 

TL;DR: I can't get people to be my slaves.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

[fred200]

4 minutes ago, Dawnstar Guard said:

Just installed this mod and all of it's addons, ran it through FNIS. 

However I can't get it to work in-game. Whenever an npc goes down on their knees, I can just talk to them with normal dialogue options. Nothing pahe related. 
The collar, whip, and spells all spawn in game and I have them. The mcm for the mod also seems to be a bit finicky, I can't actually click any options. 

TL;DR: I can't get people to be my slaves.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

 

First off - this is the support thread for the Oldrim version. Make sure you are not trying to run it with Skyrim SE. That has it's own supprt topic.

Don't worry about enslaving people until MCM works correctly. If it does not work, with selectable entries - your install is broken.

Fix that first. Make sure you have the latest version of all listed requirements.

[Psalam]

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11 hours ago, Dawnstar Guard said:

Just installed this mod and all of it's addons, ran it through FNIS. 

However I can't get it to work in-game. Whenever an npc goes down on their knees, I can just talk to them with normal dialogue options. Nothing pahe related. 
The collar, whip, and spells all spawn in game and I have them. The mcm for the mod also seems to be a bit finicky, I can't actually click any options. 

TL;DR: I can't get people to be my slaves.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

 

 

And following up on what Fred said, if you use the full version either get the mods that use all the patches or tick the patches off.

[xynabaka]

Soo, I love this mod terribly much but I'm currently facing a problem with it. I installed some new mods to my gameplay and suddenly PAHE stopped working. (Started CTD whenever I arrive in Whiterun, moving into buildings etc). I went and reinstall my mods one by one and realised that my PAHE mod was causing the CTD at Whiterun. I went ahead and reinstalled the LATEST files for this mod and now it does not work at all. In MCM, it just have the "Stopped" sign and I cant restart it. I read thru the old comments in this and realized some people solved it by sorting our their load order. So i went and sort out the load order but still faces the same problem, where the mod is still in the "Stopped" state. Any solution to this?

 

If it helps, when I start a new game, the PAHE Mod will always start up on its own with "Paradise hall iniatilizing" etc but now it does not due to its "stopped" state.

I use Skyrim unbound to skip the Helgen scene by the way

 

I attached my load order and tbvh, I'm not using alot of mods or complicated mods

[xynabaka]

Just now, xynabaka said:

Soo, I love this mod terribly much but I'm currently facing a problem with it. I installed some new mods to my gameplay and suddenly PAHE stopped working. (Started CTD whenever I arrive in Whiterun, moving into buildings etc). I went and reinstall my mods one by one and realised that my PAHE mod was causing the CTD at Whiterun. I went ahead and reinstalled the LATEST files for this mod and now it does not work at all. In MCM, it just have the "Stopped" sign and I cant restart it. I read thru the old comments in this and realized some people solved it by sorting our their load order. So i went and sort out the load order but still faces the same problem, where the mod is still in the "Stopped" state. Any solution to this?

 

If it helps, when I start a new game, the PAHE Mod will always start up on its own with "Paradise hall iniatilizing" etc but now it does not due to its "stopped" state.

I use Skyrim unbound to skip the Helgen scene by the way

 

I attached my load order and tbvh, I'm not using alot of mods or complicated mods

I'm not using the full add on files as I'm lazy to download the additional mods that require it to run*

[xyzxyz]

Do pahe slaves get hit by traps like cursed Loot and other mods spawn them? Or are they spared because they are no real followers?

[kadsend]

Is it normal for slaves stop animating them wearing their restraints when walking trough a door or simply loading another interior? Mine happen to do this sometimes and I'm scratching my head on how to fix this...

[xyzxyz]

Is it possible to teach slaves new spells?

[karellen]

On 2/5/2019 at 7:44 PM, xyzxyz said:

Is it possible to teach slaves new spells?

I did it, through the console. In order to make them use the spell you need to change their class with SetClass to a class that uses magic. You can find the classes Id here: https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Classes 

[xyzxyz]

6 hours ago, karellen said:

I did it, through the console. In order to make them use the spell you need to change their class with SetClass to a class that uses magic. You can find the classes Id here: https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Classes 

How can I do that with the consol? I have a bunch of mages, necromancers etc. ready.

[VVilly]

@CliftonJD, could you please explain what is the purpose of cloning NPCs on capture instead of making them followers with additional dialogues?

[Psalam]

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7 minutes ago, StepanBo said:

@CliftonJD, could you please explain what is the purpose of cloning NPCs on capture instead of making them followers with additional dialogues?

 

 

I know I'm not CliftonJD but I have been on this thread for a long time so I will share with you some wisdom from Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan:

 

KIRK: You're bothered by your performance on the Kobayashi Maru. 

SAAVIK: I failed to resolve the situation. 

KIRK: There is no correct resolution. It's a test of character. 

SAAVIK: May I ask how you dealt with the test? 

KIRK: You may ask. That's a little joke

 

Highlight is mine.

[VVilly]

1 hour ago, Psalam said:

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I know I'm not CliftonJD but I have been on this thread for a long time so I will share with you some wisdom from Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan:

 

KIRK: You're bothered by your performance on the Kobayashi Maru. 

SAAVIK: I failed to resolve the situation. 

KIRK: There is no correct resolution. It's a test of character. 

SAAVIK: May I ask how you dealt with the test? 

KIRK: You may ask. That's a little joke

 

Highlight is mine.

Nice joke, thanks. Nevertheless, is there any way to restore default (pre-enslavement) status of an NPC (especially a unique one)? Of course, except of loading a previous savegame (in case of anyone want to share such wisdom with me) ?

[Psalam]

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2 hours ago, StepanBo said:

Nice joke, thanks. Nevertheless, is there any way to restore default (pre-enslavement) status of an NPC (especially a unique one)? Of course, except of loading a previous savegame (in case of anyone want to share such wisdom with me) ?

 

 

You should be able to use the console command "placeatme". If you're not familiar with using the console, finding the commands, or the reference IDs you want to go here:

 

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Console

 

That will take you directly to the page regarding the console. Use the Search box in the upper left hand corner to find the NPC you need to replace and get the necessary information there. With the console command and the ID you will be able to replace the NPC you want.

[xyzxyz]

How can I train the respect value? I have a slave with 83.3 respect but I don't know how to get it to 100%. She calls me Thane all the time and I know no other way to train the respect value.

[xyzxyz]

I have a slave with 100 sub, 100 sex training and 83.3 respect training but she still hates it if I use the "I'm going to fuck you" command after "ok, slave..." What am I missing? It should be possible to get her friendlier.

[fred200]

2 hours ago, xyzxyz said:

I have a slave with 100 sub, 100 sex training and 83.3 respect training but she still hates it if I use the "I'm going to fuck you" command after "ok, slave..." What am I missing? It should be possible to get her friendlier.

Only use consensual sex with her. It will improve slowly.

Faster: In console, target her and "Setrelationshiprank player 4".

Main thing this does is get rid of the "skeever breath" comments.

[xyzxyz]

9 hours ago, fred200 said:

Only use consensual sex with her. It will improve slowly.

Faster: In console, target her and "Setrelationshiprank player 4".

Main thing this does is get rid of the "skeever breath" comments.

The Dialogue I mentioned is the one for consensual sex? The relationship ranks changes often. Sometimes enemy, sometimes only rival.

[VVilly]

21 hours ago, Psalam said:

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You should be able to use the console command "placeatme". If you're not familiar with using the console, finding the commands, or the reference IDs you want to go here:

 

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Console

 

That will take you directly to the page regarding the console. Use the Search box in the upper left hand corner to find the NPC you need to replace and get the necessary information there. With the console command and the ID you will be able to replace the NPC you want.

Thanks, I know about this command and of course I tried it before posting my questions here. Unfortunately, this method doesn't work: a new instance of the NPC appears with PAHE dialogues as well.

[Psalam]

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17 minutes ago, StepanBo said:

Thanks, I know about this command and of course I tried it before posting my questions here. Unfortunately, this method doesn't work: a new instance of the NPC appears with PAHE dialogues as well.

 

 

Really, that's news to me but I shouldn't be entirely surprised. Does that happen even if you kill the NPC as slave first?

[VVilly]

47 minutes ago, Psalam said:

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Really, that's news to me but I shouldn't be entirely surprised. Does that happen even if you kill the NPC as slave first?

I'll tell you more - that happens even when I do the following sequence:

enslave a unique NPC -> kill the NPC -> use "MarkForDelete" command on the NPC -> save the game -> load the savegame -> use "placeatme [the NPC ID]" command

And the NPC appears naked but still with PAHE dialogues. So this why I was asking what is the purpose of that strange cloning system.

Correct if I'm wrong but speaking in simple words PAHE is type of a follower mod with some additional features (like applying of bondage animations or giving orders) via dialogues and special stats tracking. For instance, EFF/AFT can manage followers and giving orders to them - but it works without cloning of NPCs. Defeat/I'll_take_the display_model can apply bondage animations - but these mods do without NPC cloning. Apropos can track stats for every NPC - and it works without cloning. TDF_prostitution can manage NPC even without adding them as followers - and without cloning them as well.

This is why I don't understand why PAHE is doing visually the same job via so unusual approach. It's a really good mod and I like it, but these irreversible changes to NPCs make me upset.

[Psalam]

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1 hour ago, StepanBo said:

I'll tell you more - that happens even when I do the following sequence:

enslave a unique NPC -> kill the NPC -> use "MarkForDelete" command on the NPC -> save the game -> load the savegame -> use "placeatme [the NPC ID]" command

And the NPC appears naked but still with PAHE dialogues. So this why I was asking what is the purpose of that strange cloning system.

Correct if I'm wrong but speaking in simple words PAHE is type of a follower mod with some additional features (like applying of bondage animations or giving orders) via dialogues and special stats tracking. For instance, EFF/AFT can manage followers and giving orders to them - but it works without cloning of NPCs. Defeat/I'll_take_the display_model can apply bondage animations - but these mods do without NPC cloning. Apropos can track stats for every NPC - and it works without cloning. TDF_prostitution can manage NPC even without adding them as followers - and without cloning them as well.

This is why I don't understand why PAHE is doing visually the same job via so unusual approach. It's a really good mod and I like it, but these irreversible changes to NPCs make me upset.

 

 

As I said, I'm not CliftonJD but I think that I can HELP answer your question. First, PAHE used to be a mod on Nexus known only as Paradise Halls (without the enhanced). Many years ago the original author abandoned it and gave CliftonJD his permission to take over the mod. At this point the mod was much simpler but you would recognize the basics of it - including the part that you are having problems with. While CLiftonJD has done much to improve the overall performance of the mod she has done little or nothing to change the basics of the mod that she received. From previous comments that she has made I get the impression that it would basically require scrapping the existing mod and making a new one.

 

That being said, that is also the underlying problem with another common complaint with this mod. If you enslave, for example, a female Thalmor Justiciar and change her clothing, all future spawns of the female Thalmor Justiciar that looks like that one will spawn naked. It is this issue that brought about my comment that I shouldn't be entirely surprised. I am unaware that, within the current framework of this mod, there will be any change.

 

So, the moral to the story is: do not enslave anybody that you are going to need later. I have enslaved any number of unique NPCs over the years I've played this mod (and for the record, this mod is THE reason I came to LL in the first place). However, I have always been careful to make certain that I wasn't going to need them later. For instance, the most common unique NPC for me to enslave is Annekke Crag-Jumper. I always make a point of doing her favor prior to enslaving her even though it would be perfectly possible to play without doing her favor.

 

I know that all of this is NOT what you wanted to hear. However, I thought you'd be better off hearing the truth of it rather than pussyfooting around it.