Paradise Halls - Home Sweet Home (SE/LE)

[TrollAutokill]

14 minutes ago, Killrathi said:

Cyclic interaction detected: PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp --[Master]-> PAH_HomeSweetAdditions.esl --[Master Flag]-> PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp

Says who?

 

[sidfu1]

3 hours ago, Killrathi said:

• Cyclic interaction detected: PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp --[Master]-> PAH_HomeSweetAdditions.esl --[Master Flag]-> PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp

 

I think either PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp must be esm or PAH_HomeSweetAdditions.esl must be esp (or probably esl flagged esp)

I changed PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp and testing (added esm flag with ssedit, loot and ingame dont show any related errors atm except old bug with disappearing names of  slaves)

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this mod can not be a .esl.   .esl files are forced to be at the top of the mod list. it needs to be a esp flaged as a esl

[TrollAutokill]

43 minutes ago, sidfu1 said:

this mod can not be a .esl.   .esl files are forced to be at the top of the mod list. it needs to be a esp flaged as a esl

Only esm are forced to be at the top. Not esl.

[Killrathi]

15 hours ago, TrollAutokill said:

Says who?

 

It was loot report in MO2
And MO2 shows both plugins with bold font like other esm/esl but cant place them with other - only with classic esp.
After adding esm flag to main esp loot stop show error and plugins windows in MO2 begun to allow place plugins correctly

 

Spoiler

sreenshot mo2 plugins after "esm fix"

 

 

 

[TrollAutokill]

1 hour ago, Killrathi said:

It was loot report in MO2
And MO2 shows both plugins with bold font like other esm/esl but cant place them with other - only with classic esp.
After adding esm flag to main esp loot stop show error and plugins windows in MO2 begun to allow place plugins correctly

 

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sreenshot mo2 plugins after "esm fix"

 

 

 

 

12 hours ago, TrollAutokill said:

Only esm are forced to be at the top. Not esl.

 

Ok, try this version, the HomeSweetAddition is now an esl flagged esp file. That should let MO2 move it freely in its load order.

PAH_HomeSweetHome_1.41c_SSE.7z

[Killrathi]

36 minutes ago, TrollAutokill said:

 

 

Ok, try this version, the HomeSweetAddition is now an esl flagged esp file. That should let MO2 move it freely in its load order.

PAH_HomeSweetHome_1.41c_SSE.7z 18.98 MB · 1 download

Also sorting with MO2 and loot without errors like main esm-flagged variant
esl-flagged esp variant differ only load location. 
Because pahe, zaz etc use esm - i think there is no diffs for base requirements.
But for opts reqs I think esl-fugged variant must be more correct.
 

[CliftonJD]

On 5/20/2026 at 9:38 AM, Killrathi said:

• Cyclic interaction detected: PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp --[Master]-> PAH_HomeSweetAdditions.esl --[Master Flag]-> PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp

 

I think either PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp must be esm or PAH_HomeSweetAdditions.esl must be esp (or probably esl flagged esp)

I changed PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp and testing (added esm flag with ssedit, loot and ingame dont show any related errors atm except old bug with disappearing names of  slaves)

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yes, ive run into that problem before with esl files requiring an esp. esl files are expected to load before esp files, but loot expects to load dependencies after the esp

[CliftonJD]

On 5/20/2026 at 9:53 AM, TrollAutokill said:

Says who?

 

 

On 5/20/2026 at 1:53 PM, TrollAutokill said:

Only esm are forced to be at the top. Not esl.

i ran into that problem when i tried converting some of the pahe files to esl. can only use the esl flag as esp

[TrollAutokill]

26 minutes ago, CliftonJD said:

 

i ran into that problem when i tried converting some of the pahe files to esl. can only use the esl flag as esp

Ok only esp files flagged as esp from now on. Lesson learned.

[fred200]

I am extremely happy when mod authors work together!

We all benefit. (And the mods in question happen to be great)

[Killrathi]

6 hours ago, CliftonJD said:

 

i ran into that problem when i tried converting some of the pahe files to esl. can only use the esl flag as esp

 

I think the problem caused by choosing incorrect source esp for that. I convert some old small esp without problems (It is also important to note that after conversion it is advisable to start a new game for some complex modifications and check scripts to avoid links pointing to the old mod name. As an example change links  mycustommod.esp:1 to mycustommod.esl:801, need checking scripts, compacted ids in configs etc)

 

6 hours ago, TrollAutokill said:

Ok only esp files flagged as esp from now on. Lesson learned.

 

ESL where it possible - is good solution to avoid restrictions of max plugins count for big users sets. Most of CC content use esl-format.

Master-files usually necessary for large amount of objects CELL, FACT, PACK, PERK, RACE, SCEN, WRLD. Also esm/esp must be choosing for objects with direct formid (index+id) links.
Esl mostly uses for overrides to other master-files data: small temporary cells additions, armor, weapon, independent light followers and small patches for other master files. Old esl was restricted with 2048 objects in it, new (AE) storage system of esl has increased to 4096 objects max per esl.

As an example Pahe_Dragonborn_fixes.esl changes small amount of dialogs but unofficial skyrim creation club content patch esl patches much for objects

 

Your PAH_HomeSweetAdditions.esp contains small quantity temporary CELL additions only to PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp so it fully meets the requirements of esl-format. The only problem was with load order (for clear esl-format master must be esm).

Thus for current structure of your mods: esp-master with esl-flagged esp secondary (as current your 1.41c version) or esm-master with esl secondary (this way I already successfully tested marking master esp as esm as I wrote before) - both variants will be faithful adherence to the Skyrim mods rules because PAHE (master mod for HSH) use ESM-format

 

 

 

 

[natybs]

Hi I just want to ask, my slaves in home sweet home 1.42c don't seem to ever be able to complete training. I have a dedicated trainer and a task mistress but the slaves will shut get to the last stat and partly increase it and then decrease that same skill? 

Does anyone know of a fix? I am wondering if it is because I have some 8.0 but Dom loaded before home sweet home and it never had the patches for home sweet home triggered in fomod 

 

[TrollAutokill]

In order to avoid clogging the original thread, I propose for the discussions concerning versions 1.33d+ and 1.4+ to continue on the HSH SE Update page. All further updates will be posted on the very same update page.

 

 

Edited May 27 by TrollAutokill

[xyzxyz]

How do I use the "Dress lighter, dear" dialogue with slaves? What is it doing?