vpoteryaev Posted September 3, 2015 Author Posted September 3, 2015 With SL fix 1 everything OK: But with SL fix 2 new races seems not register. I will do checks. If I fault (maybe it's mine problem) - will report to Ashal.
vpoteryaev Posted September 4, 2015 Author Posted September 4, 2015 Thanks to llabsky, added Netch FSAP_0001_3.7z Kind Regards
vpoteryaev Posted September 4, 2015 Author Posted September 4, 2015 Life is life, I have a private messaging with Rydin and, sorry, he's still angry. So project is closed.
ImmortalDreamer27 Posted September 4, 2015 Posted September 4, 2015 why not just remove all of Rydin's animations? I can see why he would be upset about using his work without his permission but what I fail to see is how a simple patch wouldn't resolve that, then again I am new to these forum and lack the talent to be an animation modder so I could be missing something.
Kissinger Posted September 5, 2015 Posted September 5, 2015 That's a shame. I'm sorry rydin has been such a fascist about this. Please don't be discouraged and keep modding
TnTTnT Posted September 5, 2015 Posted September 5, 2015 That's a shame. I'm sorry rydin has been such a fascist about this. Please don't be discouraged and keep modding Beware, if you don't know what Rydin are upset about. Everybody has his own preference and as far as I can see Rydin decision is quite justified.
Kissinger Posted September 5, 2015 Posted September 5, 2015 Beware, if you don't know what Rydin are upset about. Everybody has his own preference and as far as I can see Rydin decision is quite justified. I don't think you can justify asking someone to discontinue a mod, simply because it serves a similar purpose.
TnTTnT Posted September 5, 2015 Posted September 5, 2015 I don't think you can justify asking someone to discontinue a mod, simply because it serves a similar purpose. I can, at least to take out my work if that work contains my work. If I interpret right, vpoteryaev is the one who decide to terminate his project - not Rydin. He may ask for some permission but was not granted and decide to end it himself.
Kissinger Posted September 5, 2015 Posted September 5, 2015 I can, at least to take out my work if that work contains my work. If I interpret right, vpoteryaev is the one who decide to terminate his project - not Rydin. He may ask for some permission but was not granted and decide to end it himself. What exactly is 'your work'? Propriety is absurd given how many community resources and assistance is routinely given to modders. It's one thing to claim authorship, it's another thing to claim exclusivity. I mean shit, by your logic even Bethesda is more encouraging of modding than rydin is, and they made the CK.
Dreamweaver Posted September 5, 2015 Posted September 5, 2015 Guys, only the two of them know the ins and outs of the situation, and who made the decision. The rest of us can only speculate. I'm not sure how pointing fingers and assigning blame to one side or the other without knowing the whole story is going to help anyone. (No offence intended by this.)
WaxenFigure Posted September 5, 2015 Posted September 5, 2015 I don't think you can justify asking someone to discontinue a mod, simply because it serves a similar purpose. I can, at least to take out my work if that work contains my work. If I interpret right, vpoteryaev is the one who decide to terminate his project - not Rydin. He may ask for some permission but was not granted and decide to end it himself. Rather than make the assumption you just made, I looked at the code. It is not an edit of Rydin's work, it is new code and therefore a new mod. The issue is between vpoteryaev and rydin and they are both evidently working on resolving the issues between them so at this point I would say let it go and let it be.
Kissinger Posted September 5, 2015 Posted September 5, 2015 Rather than make the assumption you just made, I looked at the code. It is not an edit of Rydin's work, it is new code and therefore a new mod. Thank you for checking into that.
vpoteryaev Posted September 6, 2015 Author Posted September 6, 2015 Stop fighting, please.I must said this before. Just to be clear. "Problem" is on me and my position.If ANYONE dislike my work for ANY reason, and do not understand my intentions, regardless how many like it, I will not continue.I visit this site ONLY for catching fun, but not for fighting.That's all.Kind Regards.
TnTTnT Posted September 6, 2015 Posted September 6, 2015 Well, I don't consider previous message exchange as fighting. I was just try to provide another viewpoint to be considered before anyone trying to blame someone. Of course, this matter is between both of you and so is final decision. Thanks for your contribution, I know that you did it with good intention - just follow a good steps and everything should be fine. Don't be discourage.
derder7 Posted September 6, 2015 Posted September 6, 2015 It'd be a shame to see this stop. Your animations need to be integrated into the big mods and your itnention is noble. Please don't stop It'd be a shame to see this stop. Your animations need to be integrated into the big mods and your itnention is noble. Please don't stop
Arhon Posted September 6, 2015 Posted September 6, 2015 Oh come on.... it will totally be a damn shame if this mod stops But if it does stops I will respect the authors intention. Still hope it doesnt
darkevilhum Posted September 7, 2015 Posted September 7, 2015 Rydin's work on his mod is basically only scripting. All the animations belong to other people so what is the problem? Did you use his scripts or something?
WaxenFigure Posted September 7, 2015 Posted September 7, 2015 Rydin's work on his mod is basically only scripting. All the animations belong to other people so what is the problem? Did you use his scripts or something? Rydin has also done some animations of his own now and your question about scripts was answered just a few posts ago which you should have read already (no, they are new scripts).
meme supreme Posted September 7, 2015 Posted September 7, 2015 Damn, your work was very much needed on the creature animation side of things since dentarr, the author of MNC, is MIA and hasn't updated the mod since the first of August give or take.You had good interests in mind, I'm sure of that, but I guess other people's selfishness and ego always gets in the way of that. It was nice to see you try though
rydin Posted September 7, 2015 Posted September 7, 2015 Okay, I have stayed out of this thread to avoid the drama but yet mow I feel I must speak up and defend myself as well as explain the situation. With words like "facist" and "ego" floating around, there needs to be clairty put on the situation. Firstly, I'd not force nor ask for FSAP to be removed. I have said many times and I believe in the first community rule. "Don't loke a mod direction, make your own". I firmly stand by this rule and there are prime examples floating on the forum. The modder made thier choice as I was still angry, yet a choice they made from freewill. I explained they can do as they please and I have no right in stopping them. My only irk was the concept. The scripts and such were original and nothing was copied. But for me, my arguement was "if someone else is gonna do what NSAP does, should I bother with NSAP? Will it be required? Should I quit NSAP and invest my time elsewhere instead of lagging behind?" I think those making cruel or unfair comments really need to take a step back and understand this is an issue they are no part of and stop making things worse with false accusations. Both the modder and I want to put things to bed so I ask that this starts now.
Ixum Posted September 7, 2015 Posted September 7, 2015 I don't get why ppl would use words like that since they did not know the situation, it is stupidity fueled by emotions running wild. Having said that I do support a "free market" of mods, Leito86 didn't give Rydin exclusivity. Also, Id say we are in need even more since MNC isn't in an active stage of updates atm.
aravis7 Posted September 7, 2015 Posted September 7, 2015 Anyway what we ABSOLUTELY DON'T NEED as mod users is having our entire mod list cluttered with thousands of animations packs overwriting themselves. Please find a way to collaborate on a single pack if that's not too hard instead of creating a new one each time : /
rydin Posted September 7, 2015 Posted September 7, 2015 Also, Id say we are in need even more since MNC isn't in an active stage of updates atm. Dentarr was last active less than two weeks ago. I wouldn't say that they aren't actively updating in the background as we don't know that and plus they may have a reason for not visiting recently. Take a moment to think about the person behind the mod and not when the next content update will be. I wouldn't say we are in need just because the user hasn't been on. A little more patience is what we need. Mod creaters do have real lives too.
Whizkid Posted September 8, 2015 Posted September 8, 2015 Anyway what we ABSOLUTELY DON'T NEED as mod users is having our entire mod list cluttered with thousands of animations packs overwriting themselves. Please find a way to collaborate on a single pack if that's not too hard instead of creating a new one each time : / just to add why arent the new animations being pushed to the main sexlab mod, these are just new animation .... just saying...
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