Satsuki_Kiryuin Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 I was walking through Slostheim and my game crashed, Which kind of surprised me a little cause i had been playing for about an hour, So i re-booted and when i did my character looked like this!! i have no idea/can't figure out how what's causing it? Anyone be able to take any guesses? http://i.imgur.com/lE9wrR4.jpg http://i.imgur.com/9aMiPDk.jpg http://i.imgur.com/op8na2p.jpg The Blotches/Shadows.. Whatever they are seem to change with the angle the camera is at. Help me! D:
Shadowhawk827 Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 Either your textures got corrupted, or more likely you have a (lack of) VRAM issue
RitualClarity Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 try the archive invalidated option of your mod manager. if it worked for a long time without any problems run a GPU stress test. Might be your card is going out. If you added some mods recently or have heavey textures it could very well be the vram issue and if you dial back on the textures you should be fine.
LibertyPrime Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 I can confirm it has to do with VRAM. This sometimes happens to certain NPCs in my game. A way to 'fix' it is by simply changing cells and coming back. Usually works within the first or second try. Although, since it's your character, I don't know what you could do.
meltedbytheun Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 I've seen this problem before. The easiest solution is to change your textures, then change them back. I'm assuming you are using a custom race. If that is the case, then all you have to do is use the ` key to open the console. then type. player.setrace (insertracenamehere) and then simply change back to your custom race, using the same method. If you are NOT using a custom race, then download one. whenever this issue pops up, just use the before mentioned method to change to the custom race, and then change back to the race you are using.
Satsuki_Kiryuin Posted June 28, 2015 Author Posted June 28, 2015 Either your textures got corrupted, or more likely you have a (lack of) VRAM issue Alright. I have an nvidia gtx 740m I believe for a graphics card HP Envy 17 I've been playing on it for a year now. Would that mean that graphics card is no good? Or could there be something using up vram? I'm not extremely knowledgeable when it comes to all this lol.
Coopervane Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 The problem is twofold: 1: The body meshes were set up wrong, like most of them it's been set to render Normals when it should have been set to render Vertex-Colours. This causes Skyrim to attempt to fix that problem every time you load a game and swap in textures on the fly, which not only costs more resources from the game for no good reason, but it's also capable of failing, and then you get these black flickering textures. 2: The less overall memory your system has, the more prone Skyrim is to fail at this texture swap and causes the black-texture bug. If you have a whole bunch of 4k and 2k textures running, you might want to downscale them or pick ones that offer smaller texture options. But first up, you should fix your body, read up on it here: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/36114-do-it-dirty-fix-that-skyrim-neck-seam/
Satsuki_Kiryuin Posted June 28, 2015 Author Posted June 28, 2015 The problem is twofold: 1: The body meshes were set up wrong, like most of them it's been set to render Normals when it should have been set to render Vertex-Colours. This causes Skyrim to attempt to fix that problem every time you load a game and swap in textures on the fly, which not only costs more resources from the game for no good reason, but it's also capable of failing, and then you get these black flickering textures. 2: The less overall memory your system has, the more prone Skyrim is to fail at this texture swap and causes the black-texture bug. If you have a whole bunch of 4k and 2k textures running, you might want to downscale them or pick ones that offer smaller texture options. But first up, you should fix your body, read up on it here: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/36114-do-it-dirty-fix-that-skyrim-neck-seam/ Alright. Thanks a lot for the help. I'll go through all the texture enhancements I have running when I get home. Do you think maybe I have too many skin textures conflicting perhaps?
RitualClarity Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 The problem is twofold: 1: The body meshes were set up wrong, like most of them it's been set to render Normals when it should have been set to render Vertex-Colours. This causes Skyrim to attempt to fix that problem every time you load a game and swap in textures on the fly, which not only costs more resources from the game for no good reason, but it's also capable of failing, and then you get these black flickering textures. But first up, you should fix your body, read up on it here: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/36114-do-it-dirty-fix-that-skyrim-neck-seam/ Interesting.. havne't had that problem.. however in case I do .. how can you tell if the "render" has been set wrong.. I looked at Kendo2 tutorial Is what you are referencing the last 2 or three of the attached photos.
Coopervane Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 Interesting.. havne't had that problem.. however in case I do .. how can you tell if the "render" has been set wrong.. I looked at Kendo2 tutorial Is what you are referencing the last 2 or three of the attached photos. Simple, expand the body branch, click NiTriShapeData, then look at the Block Details window. "BS Num UV Sets" should be set to "1". "Has Normals" should be set to "no". "Has Vertex Colors" should be set to "yes". If in doubt about any other NIF settings, look at the vanilla Skyrim ones and see how they are set up, then do the same.
scopeguy Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 If you have ENB loaded (don't need to be running an ENB mod, just ENBoost is good to have), you can press F4 by itself to empty the VRAM and Skyrim will fill it up with what is currently being used. Your game will hang for a second obviously, but after that it should be fine.
Satsuki_Kiryuin Posted June 30, 2015 Author Posted June 30, 2015 I have it fixed more or less. Changed to a weaker body texture.
RitualClarity Posted June 30, 2015 Posted June 30, 2015 I have it fixed more or less. Changed to a weaker body texture. If that alone fixed it you might be running at your texture limit for your rig.. That is the bad news. The good news if you can upgrade graphics card you might be able to return to that body you enjoyed I run into some problems r/t textures but none like those you shone. I am running right up to the wall of my texture ability..
Satsuki_Kiryuin Posted July 7, 2015 Author Posted July 7, 2015 I have it fixed more or less. Changed to a weaker body texture. If that alone fixed it you might be running at your texture limit for your rig.. That is the bad news. The good news if you can upgrade graphics card you might be able to return to that body you enjoyed I run into some problems r/t textures but none like those you shone. I am running right up to the wall of my texture ability.. It's not a bad computer but it is a year old and does have 340 hours of skyrim on it.. I'm not big on computers but upgrading a laptop isn't really possible is it?
RitualClarity Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 I have it fixed more or less. Changed to a weaker body texture. If that alone fixed it you might be running at your texture limit for your rig.. That is the bad news. The good news if you can upgrade graphics card you might be able to return to that body you enjoyed I run into some problems r/t textures but none like those you shone. I am running right up to the wall of my texture ability.. It's not a bad computer but it is a year old and does have 340 hours of skyrim on it.. I'm not big on computers but upgrading a laptop isn't really possible is it? Usually Ram and/or Hard drive is the only thing that is upgradable. You sound like you are getting your money's worth out of the laptop. If you are currently satisfied with its capability then you are fine. If not.. well you might have to completely upgrade to a new computer. Not really worth it in my opinion considering your current one is only a year old. When you do decide it is time.. ask here . Show the computer you intend to buy, budget etc and I am sure members here will help you get the best for your money.
gvman3670 Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 Some laptops can be upgraded. Most can't. But from my personal experiences with gaming on them I can offer a few suggestions. 1) Use Windows ReadyBoost option to make the computer think it has more RAM. 2) Install as much RAM as you can install. 3) Only run in high performance mode while gaming. 4) Some programs can shut down unnecessary programs leaving more power to run games (like GameBooster, for example). 5) Run Windows in its max performance setting (right click My Computer, click Properties, then (at the left) choose Advanced System Settings and in the advanced tab choose performance and set it to "adjust for best performance"). From your screenshots it looks like you could benefit from I Can't Believe It's NOT an ENB (found on Nexus) to make it a lot prettier without getting a performance hit (like ENBs will give you).
RitualClarity Posted July 8, 2015 Posted July 8, 2015 Some laptops can be upgraded. Most can't. But from my personal experiences with gaming on them I can offer a few suggestions. 1) Use Windows ReadyBoost option to make the computer think it has more RAM. 2) Install as much RAM as you can install. 3) Only run in high performance mode while gaming. 4) Some programs can shut down unnecessary programs leaving more power to run games (like GameBooster, for example). 5) Run Windows in its max performance setting (right click My Computer, click Properties, then (at the left) choose Advanced System Settings and in the advanced tab choose performance and set it to "adjust for best performance"). From your screenshots it looks like you could benefit from I Can't Believe It's NOT an ENB (found on Nexus) to make it a lot prettier without getting a performance hit (like ENBs will give you). Nice info.. I had forgotten some of those tips.. . LOL I think I will have to seriously take a look at this. I already use some of the advised mods.
gvman3670 Posted July 8, 2015 Posted July 8, 2015 I think I will have to seriously take a look at this. I already use some of the advised mods. Add Dynavision (which DOES have a small FPS hit) and it will damned near be an ENB in appearance. It requires Imaginator, and that has a MCM menu for adjusting colors, saturation, brightness, contrast, bloom and whatnot on the fly and in game, which I find convenient.
RitualClarity Posted July 8, 2015 Posted July 8, 2015 I'll have to check this out.. At least until I can upgrade to a 4gb or better Vram card.
ratrace Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 Have these issues again as well. All textures optimized, no ENB except for ENBoost, no hi res stuff, no badly setup meshes, in short: no performance eaters that could be avoided. In my case it's almost sure that my ancient GTX 460 is going. I wanted to upgrade anyway. I guess the days of extreme heat over here gave it the final blow.
RitualClarity Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 Have these issues again as well. All textures optimized, no ENB except for ENBoost, no hi res stuff, no badly setup meshes, in short: no performance eaters that could be avoided. In my case it's almost sure that my ancient GTX 460 is going. I wanted to upgrade anyway. I guess the days of extreme heat over here gave it the final blow. I hear that a GTX960 4gb ram is a pretty good card and not to expensive. Good starting point for a modder. Move up from there. If you are eying some AMD.. there is the entire new gen out with gobs of Vram to boot. Not gotten any reviews on them r/t Skyrim modding yet so don't know how good they are.
ratrace Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 Have these issues again as well. All textures optimized, no ENB except for ENBoost, no hi res stuff, no badly setup meshes, in short: no performance eaters that could be avoided. In my case it's almost sure that my ancient GTX 460 is going. I wanted to upgrade anyway. I guess the days of extreme heat over here gave it the final blow. I hear that a GTX960 4gb ram is a pretty good card and not to expensive. Good starting point for a modder. Move up from there. If you are eying some AMD.. there is the entire new gen out with gobs of Vram to boot. Not gotten any reviews on them r/t Skyrim modding yet so don't know how good they are. I used to eye with an AMD, namely one of the R9 380 series, but since (I fear) AMD is going down the drain / will be purchased by M$ I think I'll switch to the nVidia GTX 970. Yeah I know, comes with the 0.5 GB VRAM prob, but that will only affect me when I'm playing on 4K resolution which I don't see coming for the next few years. Apart from that most games are optimized for nVidia cards. I hate it, I would love to buy AMD, but this isn't only a political decision. And then there's the power consumption for AMD cards which is higher compared to nVidia. This makes their cards harder to cool and louder. But I've been thinking about all this for months now and cannot make up my mind. But I will buy a new card when Enderal and / or Fallout 4 are out. That I vow! Thanks anyway for your very friendly hint. I appreciate it.
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