Reward Your Followers v9:

[bicobus]

Here I am, I raised my arousal and I got the popup but nothing more. No animation played when choosing the "reward your horse" option, and I don't see any error in my logs.

Papyrus.0.log

[Content Consumer]

Here I am, I raised my arousal and I got the popup but nothing more. No animation played when choosing the "reward your horse" option, and I don't see any error in my logs.

 

Looks like the same problem you were having last time. I really don't know why the script wouldn't be applying properly.

It might have been something I did wrong with the alias, there.

[bicobus]

Well, let my try with a brand new game. It's annoying because it takes time but heh, just to be safe.

[bicobus]

With a brand new game, the mechanic works. Which is weird, because the previous save I used was one where my character was still in the LAL starting cell...

[Content Consumer]

With a brand new game, the mechanic works. Which is weird, because the previous save I used was one where my character was still in the LAL starting cell...

 

Ah, that makes sense. Skyrim saves a lot of internal stuff in your saved game. Updating some mods mid-game can cause problems because if Skyrim thinks it has already been loaded, it doesn't try to do it again. It's actually caused me some major problems testing mods in the past - for a while, the Devious Manual was working just fine for me but not for anyone else because I kept loading what I thought was a "clean" save from the starting cell, only it wasn't really.

 

The moral of the story is - there's no such thing as a clean save, no matter what you do with it or how little you've done with it. Don't believe people when they say that some script cleaner fixes problems - all it really does is delay them. And keeping a saved game in the starting cell can make things a lot easier, but it can also lead to problems. When testing a mod, it's usually better to start from scratch. Time consuming and irritating but often necessary.

[bicobus]

I have updated nothing, reward wasn't installed to begin with. Thus it should have been properly initialized...

 

Anyhow, do you think you can make it so your mod self-detect wether or not it has been properly initialized?

[Content Consumer]

I have updated nothing, reward wasn't installed to begin with. Thus it should have been properly initialized...

 

Anyhow, do you think you can make it so your mod self-detect wether or not it has been properly initialized?

 

Oh. Well damn, there goes that theory. 

 

It already does detect if it's properly initialized, actually. It puts up a debug.notification, that's the "updated" message in the upper left corner.

 

Your problem might have just been an alias consistently refusing to fill. I hate aliases, they never seem to do what I want them to do. I'm not the only author who dislikes using them either. It's just that they're necessary for so many things.

 

I could actually get around using an alias here. The only reason I'm using one is for the forcegreet ai package and dialogue script - triggering sex immediately when clicking "reward" instead of detouring through a dialogue line is actually a lot easier and less prone to screwing up.

 

I dunno, I just didn't want to go that route, because there are already several simple ways to trigger sex on a whim. Matchmaker springs to mind. The whole point of Reward Your Followers is to provide dialogue for it rather than just click-and-cum.

 

I'm still thinking about it. Aliases are the bane of my existence, and I might decide to get rid of the dialogue just for that reason. 

[bicobus]

Alright, did some more tests and found what was wrong and probably a bug. Initially, I rode the first horse because no popup was available. When I came back to that horse and raised the arousal factor, I got the popup but that was it. Now, the difference between my try when the mod is working and the try when it doesn't work is the "ride the horse" action. Yes, that's it, if I ride an horse, the horse won't be available for sexing. The popup will still fire, but not the dialogue.

 

I tried on another instance of the first safe, and every horse I invoked behaved normally until I rode them on their back. From that point, nada, no more sex. So, there must be something wrong between the popup notification and the dialogue with the horse (this that's the stuff that doesn't work).

[Content Consumer]

Alright, did some more tests and found what was wrong and probably a bug. Initially, I rode the first horse because no popup was available. When I came back to that horse and raised the arousal factor, I got the popup but that was it. Now, the difference between my try when the mod is working and the try when it doesn't work is the "ride the horse" action. Yes, that's it, if I ride an horse, the horse won't be available for sexing. The popup will still fire, but not the dialogue.

 

I tried on another instance of the first safe, and every horse I invoked behaved normally until I rode them on their back. From that point, nada, no more sex. So, there must be something wrong between the popup notification and the dialogue with the horse (this that's the stuff that doesn't work).

 

...what? You're kidding. 

 

Okay, that must be something with Convenient Horses then...? At least, I don't know of anything in the vanilla game that would be doing something like that. I've ridden horses and then rewarded them, rewarded then ridden, it seems to be working fine over here.

I mean, a horse is still a horse before and after you ride it.

There are only three conditions for the popup to appear - actortypehorse, player arousal >= setting, and horse arousal >= setting.

My guess is that Convenient Horses changes the horse keyword when you ride it?

I don't know of any way to test that out in the console either...

 

Have you tried disabling Convenient Horses and trying again?

[bicobus]

Not the popup, the dialogue following the popup if the player choose the reward option. The popup will appear, but not the dialogue.

[Content Consumer]

Not the popup, the dialogue following the popup if the player choose the reward option. The popup will appear, but not the dialogue.

 

Hmm... I had a 3-hour delay set at one point, but I thought I got rid of that as unnecessary. You could try waiting for four hours and see if that fixes it.

[bicobus]

Waiting doesn't fix anything, however I found out that the only affected horse is the last I rode normally. All other horses work fine. If I ride another horse and go back to the one that wouldn't initialize the animation, the animation/dialogue will then start.

 

So, the only affected horse is the one used to move around. Which gets some extra effect on it by CH, like a cloak spell I believe (or is it by CF? Urh). Anyway, it's actually logic since the game only track the last used horse by the player to move it around. CH should do the same.

 

Also, another weirdness: I hit esc once during the dialogue, and now the dialogue won't disappear unless I forcibly exit it. Selection the dialogue option just make the dialogue come back right away.

[akot2]

Hi. Where can I see the list is not vanilla followers,attached to this modification?

[Content Consumer]

Hi. Where can I see the list is not vanilla followers,attached to this modification?

 

I do not have an up-to-date list showing what their dialogue is, but if all you want is the names, here is the list:

 

Nirana

Kirsikka

Teilani

Sofia

Marie

Natalie

Rosa Round-Bottom

Izo

Tomoe

Lola

Arissa

Anduniel

Hoth

Inigo

Sharza

Aurlyn

Sunya

Vera

Laraya

Zayn

Louise

Rumarin

Kitiara

Leon

Valgus

Kitiara

Breezy

 

If you have a follower you would like to add, I can put it on my to-do list.

[akot2]

Thanks for the quick response. Here are some very popular followers- it is strange that no one has asked you to include them in the list.

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/36993

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/20787

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/68683

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/59974

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/28941

For myself, I wanted this-http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/51174 if possible 

P.S. Villja that would be fantastic!(http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/26393) Thanks

[bicobus]

To extend the followers support, could it be possible to use JSON data? As such that to add a follower, one should just add a new .json somewhere in the data folder for the mod to recognize it.

[Content Consumer]

Thanks for the quick response. Here are some very popular followers- it is strange that no one has asked you to include them in the list.

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/36993

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/20787

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/68683

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/59974

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/28941

For myself, I wanted this-http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/51174 if possible 

P.S. Villja that would be fantastic!(http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/26393) Thanks

I'll add them to my to-do list.

Actually, now that I think about it, someone did once request Recorder. IIRC there turned out to be some reason why it wouldn't work, but I can't imagine why not. 

I'll try it out.

 

 

To extend the followers support, could it be possible to use JSON data? As such that to add a follower, one should just add a new .json somewhere in the data folder for the mod to recognize it.

You can set up a json to do things like record arousal settings and RWRD states, that kind of thing. Can't do that with dialogue, though, the engine doesn't work like that.

The only reason nonvanilla followers are working right now without being dependencies now is because of a nasty hack, and even then all the dialogue still needs to be done directly in the CK.

 

I've had requests to do something similar with DYKWIA. It *might* be possible to use text replacement codes to get something like titles (i.e. swap out "dragonborn" with some user-defined string) replaced dynamically, but I'm not confident in even that much.

 

For general dialogue? Not a chance, sorry.

[Content Consumer]

Quick beta test for Reward Your Horses. Seems to be working fine for me... here's hoping.

 

reward your horses beta 2.7z

 

Essentially the same as the last beta, except I'm bypassing the dialogue and going straight to sex. This should hopefully fix problems with arousal settings not working properly (unless I forgot to remove something).

 

Unfortunately, I wasn't able to get rid of the alias, so there's still the potential for the alias to not fill properly, which will make Sexlab try to start sex between the player and nothing. In that case, the camera should switch quickly to third person and then nothing will happen.

 

Not sure what else I can do here.

[bicobus]

I'm currently launching a new playthrough. I'll get a look once I get thing to stabilize.

[G0ldSil3nce]

 

 

Quick beta test for Reward Your Horses. Seems to be working fine for me... here's hoping.

 

reward your horses beta 2.7z

 

Essentially the same as the last beta, except I'm bypassing the dialogue and going straight to sex. This should hopefully fix problems with arousal settings not working properly (unless I forgot to remove something).

 

Unfortunately, I wasn't able to get rid of the alias, so there's still the potential for the alias to not fill properly, which will make Sexlab try to start sex between the player and nothing. In that case, the camera should switch quickly to third person and then nothing will happen.

 

Not sure what else I can do here.

 

 

 

woo getting to animals *thinking out loud: bout damn time that i can reward those pets*

[Content Consumer]

 

woo getting to animals *thinking out loud: bout damn time that i can reward those pets*

 

Dogs are already included. 

Horses just had to be done a little differently.

[G0ldSil3nce]

 

 

woo getting to animals *thinking out loud: bout damn time that i can reward those pets*

 

Dogs are already included. 

Horses just had to be done a little differently.

 

 

Dogs are included? You mean it is a all in one file? Would prefer seperated if possible.

[Content Consumer]

 

 

 

woo getting to animals *thinking out loud: bout damn time that i can reward those pets*

 

Dogs are already included. 

Horses just had to be done a little differently.

 

 

Dogs are included? You mean it is a all in one file? Would prefer seperated if possible.

 

 

Why? You're not forced to reward dogs (or anyone, actually). You won't even have that option if you don't have a dog as a follower.

[bicobus]

So, you need the dog to be a follower? Interesting.
 
As of now, with creature framework & co. and dialogues, every single stray dog has no dialogue at all where originally the player could ask them to follow. I tried to find out what was going on through the CK, but that software sounds like a russian speaking chinese to me. Speaking of dialogues, would reward your follower make use of the small relationship framework introduced by SL Dialogues? Or better yet, the one by Sexual Fame Framework? The former allowing a per individual relation as to who dominate who, but seems simple. The later is broader and has a lot more feature you can rely on, the player character will be haunted by the choices done.
 
I'm asking because I searching for something more than this allusion. I mean, both party should have more parameters than being horny to be interested in an intercourse. Maybe some like it rough, and other to dominate while each relation could evolve with time: Lydia switching from submissive to a dominatrix style (I'll carry your burden, but you'll pay me with your ass!).

[G0ldSil3nce]

 

 

 

 

 

 

woo getting to animals *thinking out loud: bout damn time that i can reward those pets*

 

Dogs are already included. 

Horses just had to be done a little differently.

 

 

Dogs are included? You mean it is a all in one file? Would prefer seperated if possible.

 

 

Why? You're not forced to reward dogs (or anyone, actually). You won't even have that option if you don't have a dog as a follower.

 

 

 

 

cause i got another mod for followers but no mod for pets or horses hence i want sepeated if possible