galgat Posted April 9, 2012 Author Posted April 9, 2012 Not my mod causing attack's as far as i know. Sounds like a conflict. did you read this in the doc file ? ******************************************** [LoversPK extender is bad new's try it if you want, but Don't say I did not warn you. Joburg, LandE, are probably very bad too. Any mod that constantly looks for something that can rape you is likely to cause trouble. Mods that damage you when having sex, probably very bad, as this is forced RPG action, I have the rape flag set on most everything to do with sex.] **************************************************** Those are not the only one's many mods like Loversrapes full do odd thing's, and some of the new modified mod's. there is no way I can account for all of them. Many of them do code monkey stuff with original code that the original authors knew better than to do. I will check, but I personally have never had that happen, and I played this one through from start to finish before uploading 7 times, with no hiccups, not to mention all the tests while making it. You will just have to find the mod that's causing that. It could be some spurious NPC that is a thief, and a criminal that came in the bar, but I have never seen that kind of problem. Best guess is a mod that did something it should not have. One maybe that makes sex or rape a crime is best guess. Not that that is a totally evil thing to do, but It will make any NPC that starts sex in my mod a criminal, such mods will always cause conflicts in this case, Mods that use a find package on there animal attacks will always cause problems, and not just with my mod. Lovers Bitch use's find packages on animal's a very bad idea, I have had problems with that. some of them do not even have target's which should have pulled and error in the editor, but I guess not with Tes4 extended. It will cause trouble though with non consensual sex acts. Find packages are not a problem normally for NPC, but creatures have no dialog, so when they find you they do the only thing they can, and that is attack. And NPC if they are not and evil character, like bandit will just start a conversation, unless they already hate you, then they will start a fight.
Saber2th Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 Ah, its probably caused by the extender then. I disabled everything before intalling ur mod but I missed extender, Ill go try again. Thanks!
SullenMan Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 OKEY ... I went through "test animals" in the laboratory of Dr. Lizard and got ... BAG! a) a girl who is accompanied the my heroine in bondage do refuses to accompanied it back to base... to resolve this BAG had to open the console and write "resurrect" on girl ... shi is "appeared" and wen go back to the base, leading the heroine ... on the base the quest itself says "find a paper, or note, or something" ....WTF? and where I should look for it? in one of four toilets? on the shelf with toilet paper? in the basket of shit and toilet paper?? I climbed all base ... I only found a book on the boss's desk ... but this does not affect the main quest ... give me please a Print Screen on the base map and in the room with the exact location of that same "piece of paper". I'm can't find it(((((((
rowdythehermit Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 Evidently I'm missing something ... I downloaded v0.03 and played it through in one shot - very seldom have I played vanilla Oblivion for 4 hours without a crash so this is a very stable mod, Galgat. I was released from the cage, had the final talk with Mog, and went from town to town checking on rumors. I did get another quest update about maybe waiting for a couple of days but there has been no other contact of any kind. From reading these replies it seems that the storyline progresses past the animal club. Did I miss a clue somewhere? Like I said above, this is a very stable mod, Gaglat. One shot - all the way through (past the animal cage) - no freeze - no CTD - and no excess waiting during the pillory phase.
galgat Posted April 9, 2012 Author Posted April 9, 2012 Evidently I'm missing something ... I downloaded v0.03 and played it through in one shot - very seldom have I played vanilla Oblivion for 4 hours without a crash so this is a very stable mod' date=' Galgat. I was released from the cage, had the final talk with Mog, and went from town to town checking on rumors. I did get another quest update about maybe waiting for a couple of days but there has been no other contact of any kind. From reading these replies it seems that the storyline progresses past the animal club. Did I miss a clue somewhere? Like I said above, this is a very stable mod, Gaglat. One shot - all the way through (past the animal cage) - no freeze - no CTD - and no excess waiting during the pillory phase. [/quote'] Thx u, it is good when people read doc file, and also know how to install loversPK right. Here is maybe some help. yes that other update is another quest line you missed, sending you somewhere close to IC.[but you will not get sent there right away, a messenger should bring you and invite, and a key 2 days after that update ( actually there is no messenger, but you will get message, and update )] I think name was help from an unusual source, this is a meeting with a rival gang of Kovak. It is with this side quest that I start enhancing the quest line or story. You may have clicked on it fast and did not realize it was a different quest line. This has to be followed through, in order to finish the last humiliation plot in the laboratory, which should happen 2 days after meeting Thomas Maloy {a rival gang member}. After the last plot [Humiliation] search the kovak base for some type of info, finding This info will led you to the ending plot line for now.. Once you have talked with Maloy, and the Evil professor in the rival base the second time ( the Evil Doctor is not there the first time). That finishes the story to that point. Until I get time to Update, and add the next installment.
SullenMan Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 "After the last plot [Humiliation] search the kovak base for some type of info, finding This info will led you to the ending plot line for now.." some type of info??? some type of info??? I only found a diary on the table Kovak boss ... in his bedroom-office ... but the main quest did not count it! This episode refers to the quest line "of the opposing gang" so where is this cursed "piece of parchment, a note or other paper"? ((((((((((((
rowdythehermit Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 Okay ... I did get the help from an unusual source update. I got it probably the next day while checking for rumors, and have been waiting to see if it opened up a quest. Looking at the data on my save files ... 10 game days have passed since I was in the cage. I have a save before talking to Sam, and a save inside the holding cage before the Countess comes to talk to me. If I have to go back, which - in your opinion - would be the best of those two saves to load and try again? Thanks
galgat Posted April 9, 2012 Author Posted April 9, 2012 the holding cage might be glitch y if Mrs Caro did not get her package updated proper before the save. I mean it ought to be okay, but if you wait really really long for her, and she does not come. That would be what happened, [i doubt that would happen it is just a possibility]. then go to the other save. after the beastly bar thing, you talk to Jack mog again, and check rumors, until you get and update. the update should be "help from an unusual Source" This is more of a place marker to let you know something is happening. Wait or sleep, I always slept. 2 days, It really should not make a difference, but I always wait or sleep the first time until like 1 or 2 AM. then start sleeping 24. I think, that sometimes if you go to sleep at like 11PM and sleep 24 Hour, things don't always do right. I try always in wait a few day situations to get your first time sleeping or waiting to just a couple of hours past midnight, like 2 AM. In day counter setting, like if a mod sets the wait time to 2 days, and its 11 PM you sleep only 1 hour and you have already waited one day. Just something to think about. Anyway after the update, 2 days latter you should get a message pop up that adds a Key to your inventory. and a location to go to, as well as a quest map marker where to go [pretty sure I made a map marker for that] then 2 days after talking to Maloy you should get another pop up from Jack mog again [ they have thought of something else to shame you with] No need to check rumors for this one, I don't think, I updated with the Maloy conversation. The next time you talk to maloy will be after the laboratory Plot,[be sure to look for some kind of letter or book {you only need to read it, it is flagged unable to take} in the Kovak base after the laboratory Plot, it updates or set's the last visit to Maloy] and is the end area of what I have built so far. Side note:: There is a log book in the laboratory, and you will get a chance to look around after the experiment, for story line you might want to read it.
SullenMan Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 it seems that my question about finding "the some note in the final 0.3 quest" is unworthy of attention, and even an some answer. Thank you.
galgat Posted April 9, 2012 Author Posted April 9, 2012 it seems that my question about finding "the some note in the final 0.3 quest" is unworthy of attention' date=' and even an some answer. Thank you. [/quote'] it is answered in the Post above yours ****Edited**** The update is not to the main quest, it is to the side quest "help from an unusual source" Please look at names of quest updates when they pop up it will help you.
tybasedlawd Posted April 10, 2012 Posted April 10, 2012 I don't know if its a problem or a weird coincidence, but I always seem to crash during the first humiliation quest when you're escorted to the temple district and Marana Rian comes up. I'm not sure whether she has anything to actually do with the crashing or what, but if I try to kill or disable her through console it still crashes, lol. All the rapes before that seemed to work perfectly fine.
galgat Posted April 10, 2012 Author Posted April 10, 2012 I don't know if its a problem or a weird coincidence' date=' but I always seem to crash during the first humiliation quest when you're escorted to the temple district and Marana Rian comes up. I'm not sure whether she has anything to actually do with the crashing or what, but if I try to kill or disable her through console it still crashes, lol. All the rapes before that seemed to work perfectly fine. [/quote'] yes that is why I'm not really aggressively working on it right now, to many people run so many different mod's. and conflict, is just always happening. Every one seems to be having so much trouble. It works flawlessly for me, but due to all the variation's in everyone's mod's and load orders it just feels hopeless sometimes.
Oblivion_Cat Posted April 10, 2012 Posted April 10, 2012 I'm always impressed with how stable your mods are galgat. First time i went through the humiliation i had some glitches that stopped it working, but that was due to another mod that interrupted. Disabled that mod and i went through the whole humiliation process without a single crash. My timescale is 10 so time passes by much slower than in vanilla settings. So my experience with your mods have always been like this: if there's a crash it's most likely a mod conflict or load order. So what i'm saying is that i really appreciate all the work you put into your mods. Not only content wise but also the stability of your mods.
rowdythehermit Posted April 10, 2012 Posted April 10, 2012 I reloaded from the holding cage and had the same result. I would get the "source" update but no amount of waiting would make the story line progress. I went back and checked to see what I still had running and disabled ... AdultplayplusSSP TrueCrimes PayBandit RaperS I reloaded a save from after washing off in Anvil Bay and everything is progressing nicely. Fixing to move on with the storyline and see what's next. In the spirit of the post just above ... If other people are able to move on to the next stop then figure out what MY problem is. This is a fun mod for immersion - especially when you report for humiliation wearing your Divine Crusader armor. Great work.
galgat Posted April 10, 2012 Author Posted April 10, 2012 Truecrimes has always had potential to muck things up, it is a code monkey variation of at least two other mod's thrown together. I like it, and have it installed, but I know to avoid most other mods while it is running. Paybandit is another one that can cause many problems, but mine is majorly modified. My loversrapeS has a Call back block so no other mod will make the callback pop up. which allows me to use it much more than I could some of the other ones. That is why I use it. That and I like the dialog during sex. Many of the newer or changed from original Lovers Mods do not follow the checks that the Japanese Coders knew to do. and some just have trouble with other mods no matter what. With LoversPK this is always going to be the case. And I keep many mods turned off unless I am actually in the mood for them. It is easy to sync back to a save game that has them installed with OBMM, when ever I wish to play them. Here is the actual load order I run while testing and playing this Mod. 00 Oblivion.esm 01 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm 02 x117race.esm 03 Lovers with PK.esm 04 LoversCreature.esm 05 BreakUndies.esm 06 playble_armors.esp 07 KT_CustomRaceFix.esp 08 Tag_Armorseller.esp 09 DLCHorseArmor.esp 0A DLCOrrery.esp 0B DLCFrostcrag.esp 0C DLCThievesDen.esp 0D DLCVileLair.esp 0E DLCSpellTomes.esp 0F DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 10 Knights.esp 11 DLCShiveringIsles.esp 12 babehair_EV.esp 13 Opale armor for Exnem body.esp 14 ExWearUndies.esp 15 Vampiress Armors For Exnem Body.esp 16 Rosana.esp 17 Seductress Armour.esp 18 ExnemEyeCandy.esp 19 BlackLuster.esp 1A 77_Umpa_Animation.esp 1B CTAddPose_OTPair.esp 1C Colourwheels Sexy Stock Armor & Clothing Replacer.esp 1D Colourwheels Sexy SI Armor & Clothing Replacer.esp 1E Colourwheels Sexy Hentais DarkRose.esp 1F Colourwheels Sexy Female NPCs.esp 20 TagsYinYang.esp 21 Chain it!.esp 22 Streamline 3.1.esp 23 LoversLight.esp 24 LoversFSE.esp 25 Summon Fairy_v0.91xDS_mini.esp <26 LoversBed.esp 27 LoversCreature_SexualOrgans_Dogs.esp 28 LoversCreature_SexualOrgans.esp 29 RealWalk.esp 2A LoversPayBanditgalgat.esp 2B LoversRaperSGalgat.esp 2C LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp 2D AirOC04 Vat.esp 2E LoversGalgatBlackmail.esp <<<2F CrowningIsleWorkingOn.esp 30 SetBody.esp 31 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp 32 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp 33 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp 34 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp 35 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp 36 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp 37 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp 38 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp 39 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp 3A Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp 3B x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp 3C Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp 3D Real_Mannequin.esp 3E Lovers with PK.esp [Version 93] 3F LoversCreature.esp 40 LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp 41 LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp 42 Lovers3dorgasm.esp Maybe that can help some of you.
zcomp Posted April 10, 2012 Posted April 10, 2012 Was wondering if anyone has successfully ran this with the Lovers with PK merged paches from 2011. I'm seriously considering switching from the PKAIO to the merged simply on account of mod loads, I just hit 255 mods with over 150 mods merged together and a bash patch . Switching over to merged would give me another 30ish free spaces. Not many mods I still want to install, but I'd like some breathing room if I find any good ones.
gregathit Posted April 11, 2012 Posted April 11, 2012 zcomp, the merged lovers works fine but you can't add anything to it, nor can you upgrade it since it is all merged together. If you like what it has then it is all good. If you want to add things to it then not so much. If you do add things to it you are on your own as we can't help you since almost no one uses that anymore. Note: To use the merged lovers you need to completely uninstall all lovers plugins that you have right now.
GSBmodders Posted April 11, 2012 Posted April 11, 2012 Thanks Galgat the mods kicks ass, and its just what I needed to get some more screenshots in.
galgat Posted April 11, 2012 Author Posted April 11, 2012 Thanks Galgat the mods kicks ass' date=' and its just what I needed to get some more screenshots in. [img']http://i41.tinypic.com/x6h8pf.jpg[/img] That looks really great GSBmodders I wanted to do a Black horse Currier page, and lay it around in few places, but I Just did not have time, You really do good Graphics, I just sort of cut, and past, and alpha channel a little. Thx u for that image. It sort of helped..
WindShadow75 Posted April 12, 2012 Posted April 12, 2012 This is a really fun mod. I think you made the evilest villains ever. I was wondering if you would like help with spelling, punctuation, etc. For example: Help from and unusual Scource should be: Help from an Unusual Source I don't know much about modding, but I can proofread...
Tsara Noga Posted April 12, 2012 Posted April 12, 2012 If You want to be all correct, it'd be "Help from an unusual source." =P
galgat Posted April 12, 2012 Author Posted April 12, 2012 This is a really fun mod. I think you made the evilest villains ever. I was wondering if you would like help with spelling' date=' punctuation, etc. For example: Help from and unusual Scource should be: Help from an Unusual Source I don't know much about modding, but I can proofread... [/quote'] Maybe latter on, I have been trying to fix some of the typo's as I go along. I see them when I am testing, but sometimes latter I forget where they were at... One that I do a lot is type "you" when I want "your" I think I hit the "r", but maybe not hard enough. But I am trying to spot them as I work on it.
Tsara Noga Posted April 12, 2012 Posted April 12, 2012 Not want to offend You, but You also mix up "Your" and "You're". Like "You're Cock, You're Ass" the Way You type would mean: "You are Cock, You are Ass". Should be "Your Cock, etc". ^^ But actually, who cares? I'm watching the Action and not sitting in School. ^^
GSBmodders Posted April 12, 2012 Posted April 12, 2012 Thanks Galgat the mods kicks ass' date=' and its just what I needed to get some more screenshots in. [img']http://i41.tinypic.com/x6h8pf.jpg[/img] That looks really great GSBmodders I wanted to do a Black horse Currier page, and lay it around in few places, but I Just did not have time, You really do good Graphics, I just sort of cut, and past, and alpha channel a little. Thx u for that image. It sort of helped.. thanks galgat btw if you need to make your own, i can send you the layered psd file and filters for this. it should make things a bit easier
MrMan11 Posted April 12, 2012 Posted April 12, 2012 I may have a small problem. Is it right that I dont get a quest update after recieving the second letter? It said it would give me a new map location and a key for a door however it directs me to the Kovac base and there are no locked doors for the key I feel that I am doing something wrong
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