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Siegmeyer

Siegmeyer

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1 hour ago, QWERP12 said:

I had a go at Angel Armor, untested but should be alright.

Angel Armor.7z

The "Skirt Alt" meshes use a custom HDT cloth skeleton, and your conversion contains broken shapedata for them due to later incarnations of Bodyslide not supporting said skeleton. Use version 3.2 of Bodyslide (PM me for a copy if you don't have one) to convert those pieces. Alternatively you can just use the ones from the Chinese UUNP conversion from 9DM, as there shouldn't be any major clipping for the skirt pieces.

 

If you open it in NifSkope and highlight "Scene Root", you can see that the skeleton is incorrect. Also note the distortion of the NiTriShape.

skirt.PNG

 

I attached a copy of the 9DM Chinese UUNP conversion, translated into English. 

Angel Armor UUNP [ENG].7z

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Siegmeyer

Siegmeyer

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On 5/20/2018 at 12:47 AM, lyrinthia said:

Does anyone know a good collection of modern clothes in UUNP. Sets like Aether suite, hepsy clothes, or Sinius modern clothing? Any links to or conversions to uunp versions would be greatly appreciated.

 

LUSH SexyWaif  | [ UUNP ]


Luxury Collection UUNP

 

Chapi JC Collection | [ UUNP ]

 

That's all I know of for big sets of clothing. I know of lots of individual modern clothing mods but I don't think that's what you're looking for.

 

One of these days I'm going to convert the entirety of Alan's BBP Pack. Already done a few but haven't released them

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unded

unded

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4 hours ago, Siegmeyer said:

One of these days I'm going to convert the entirety of Alan's BBP Pack. Already done a few but haven't released them

WANT.

MayDayCray

MayDayCray

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4 hours ago, Siegmeyer said:

LUSH SexyWaif  | [ UUNP ]


Luxury Collection UUNP

 

Chapi JC Collection | [ UUNP ]

 

That's all I know of for big sets of clothing. I know of lots of individual modern clothing mods but I don't think that's what you're looking for.

 

One of these days I'm going to convert the entirety of Alan's BBP Pack. Already done a few but haven't released them

Lush SexyWaif doesn't seem to actually have bodyslide files for morphing

jimmywon34

jimmywon34

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19 hours ago, Siegmeyer said:

LUSH SexyWaif  | [ UUNP ]


Luxury Collection UUNP

 

Chapi JC Collection | [ UUNP ]

 

That's all I know of for big sets of clothing. I know of lots of individual modern clothing mods but I don't think that's what you're looking for.

 

One of these days I'm going to convert the entirety of Alan's BBP Pack. Already done a few but haven't released them

I'm having a problem with Chapi Jc Collection, where certain parts of outfits disappear/reappear. happen to know what that's about?

Siegmeyer

Siegmeyer

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5 hours ago, jimmywon34 said:

I'm having a problem with Chapi Jc Collection, where certain parts of outfits disappear/reappear. happen to know what that's about?

I'm not looking at the plugin but generally the cause of disappearing meshes is one of the following:

 

-Mis-assigned body slots (either the ARMA and ARMO records don't match, or the plugin records don't match with the nif's slot partitions)

FIX: Open the plugin in TES5Edit and the mesh in NifSkope. Make sure the assigned body slots in the two record categories match, and that they match up with the number in the "partitions" drop down menu under NiTriShape > BSDismemberSkinInstance. (Note: not all meshes have an assigned body slot)

 

-Missing race records for the armature (ARMA) record in the plugin. 

FIX: Open the plugin in TES5Edit. Navigate to the missing piece's ARMA record and scroll down to the "Additional Races" section at the bottom. Make sure every player race is listed. If not, right-click the section header, select Add, and replace the NULL REFERENCE line that appears with one of the missing race records. Repeat until every applicable player race is listed. HERE is a list of player races and their refIDs. 

 

-Weight slider is enabled/disabled in the plugin, but not in the mesh. 

FIX: You can either change the plugin or change the file names of the generated meshes. For the former, navigate to the ARMA record for the outfit in TES5Edit, go to the "Weight Slider" section, right click and Edit, and either check or uncheck the box (depending on whether or not it needs to be disabled or enabled). Check the file path in the model section to make sure it matches (weight slider meshes should end in _1.nif, anything else doesn't have weight slider enabled).

If you want to change the output mesh's filename, open the Bodyslide project in Outfit Studio, save as new, and select either "Low/High Weight Output" for weight slider meshes, or "Single Weight Outfit" for ones without. Make sure the "Output File Name" matches what appears in the plugin's ARMA records in TES5Edit.

 

-File name of mesh is different from file name in plugin. 

FIX: Similar to the solution above. Open the ARMA record of the plugin in TES5Edit. while also navigating to the folder with the mesh's nif. Make sure the file name and the file path in the plugin record match. Also make sure that even if the names are the same, that the folder structure is equivalent. For instance, if the armor is listed in the plugin as "armor\mymod\armor_1.nif", but the mesh is in "armor\mymod02\armor_1.nif", you will need to correct this in the ARMA record. Note that TES5Edit omits the "meshes" folder in these filepaths, as it is a given. 

 

Last one is pretty rare but I've seen it happen before, so it doesn't hurt to check:

-ARMO record doesn't refer to an ARMA record, or refers to the wrong one.

FIX: If it is simply misassigned, copy-paste the refID of the correct ARMA record into the Model section at the bottom of the ARMO record. If it doesn't have an ARMA record at all, you'll have to create one. I'm not going to write up how to do that unless you specifically have that problem, though, since it would be lengthy and would turn this post into a TES5Edit tutorial, instead of a troubleshooter.

 

EDIT: I realize after writing all this up that I use lots of modder lingo that isn't newbie-friendly, so if you don't understand parts of it just tell me and I can explain it better, use screenshots, etc. 

jimmywon34

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well, actually, is there another modder that converted that set to UUNP? seems to be the conversion. I loaded up the mod without building them in bodyslide first and the meshes of certain parts of the outfits(7b cleavage download) weren't popping in and out of view as I explained and it worked normally, but then went ahead and double checked, went into bodyslide and batch built them and the maid outfit for example, certain parts of the outfit flicker in and out like they're vanishing into thing air then reappearing really fast. think its something with conversion apparently. it's happening with a lot of the outfits too so I don't really feel like dicking around in nifskope or anything so if there isn't another conversion online somewhere i'll just have to pass on it.

jimmywon34

jimmywon34

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16 hours ago, Siegmeyer said:

Or you can wait for my conversion of it!

oh very nice. while I got you here i'd like to ask your experience on something. With some conversions I notice that boobs will bounce through clothes, or even items, like with the hdt piercings set for UUNP for example with the nipple piercings(the boobs will bounce around and the piercings will be out of position and won't bounce with the boobs like they aren't attached to the nipples), I notice this with some of my favorite outfits too. Other conversions work fine, the boobs won't bounce through the shirt or top or anything when my follower is running or going from sneak to standing in which the boobs are bouncing around. In other words, the effect of hdt on the boobs won't clip through some clothes but other outfits it will. do you have any idea what causes that? i'm guessing it has to have something to do with the way the conversions are done since it happens with some and not others.

Siegmeyer

Siegmeyer

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7 hours ago, jimmywon34 said:

oh very nice. while I got you here i'd like to ask your experience on something. With some conversions I notice that boobs will bounce through clothes, or even items, like with the hdt piercings set for UUNP for example with the nipple piercings(the boobs will bounce around and the piercings will be out of position and won't bounce with the boobs like they aren't attached to the nipples), I notice this with some of my favorite outfits too. Other conversions work fine, the boobs won't bounce through the shirt or top or anything when my follower is running or going from sneak to standing in which the boobs are bouncing around. In other words, the effect of hdt on the boobs won't clip through some clothes but other outfits it will. do you have any idea what causes that? i'm guessing it has to have something to do with the way the conversions are done since it happens with some and not others.

Usually it's either that the person converting it didn't copy over the weights correctly, or they didn't sufficiently test them for clipping before releasing them. It's easy to fix, so if you can list some for me I can redo them for you.

 

There have been many UUNP conversions I've used where it's obvious that whoever did it didn't test them ingame... the initial conversion in Outfit Studio is the easy part, takes 5-20 minutes for most things, if even that long. The part that takes several hours is having to constantly build them, go ingame, check for clipping/stretching/etc, then quitting, going back to OS, make some minor adjustments, rebuild, go back ingame, and keep repeating until all issues are gone. 

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6 hours ago, Siegmeyer said:

Usually it's either that the person converting it didn't copy over the weights correctly, or they didn't sufficiently test them for clipping before releasing them. It's easy to fix, so if you can list some for me I can redo them for you.

 

Or they haven't removed L and Rbreasts01 bones. Very common I find. 

Siegmeyer

Siegmeyer

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7 hours ago, w33beast1e said:

Or they haven't removed L and Rbreasts01 bones. Very common I find. 

Well, I include that with not copying the bones correctly. 

jimmywon34

jimmywon34

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4 hours ago, Siegmeyer said:

Well, I include that with not copying the bones correctly. 

I tried deleting the breast bones r and l and even the spine bone while keeping the breast bones but no luck. the nipple piercings seem to only have 3 bones shown in OS. The belly button piercings seem to be fine but then again I don't use belly physics so it may not be an issue with the belly button piercings because of that.

 

 

There is a couple outfits that come to mind right away one is a dress i'll have to find. The other is another favorite I've seen and tried that contains the problem I've mentioned. the BDO Dark Knight conversion. One of the problems I have when trying to fix the clipping on the tops or the pants though is that it doesn't contain the reference body so it makes it even harder to go into OS try and estimate where you saw the clipping in game and try and fix it then go back in game and check like you mention but maybe they just copied the bone weights wrong also like you say.

 

BDO Dark Knight UUNP HDT v1.21.7zBDO Dark Knight v1.4 UUNP HDT.7z

 

Those are the UUNP conversions each with different outfits that I think covers most but not all of the outfits in the original outfit.

 

and these are the links to the outfits with the original meshes and textures.

 

v 1.4

https://gavitex.com/share/b4trv7uku

 

v1.5

https://gavitex.com/share/zb9ovl0yf

 

There are different versions, 1.5 is the latest I've found. One of the conversion sets, 1.21 contains it own esp but I am pretty sure 1.5 added a few more outfits and contains everything in 1.4 and 1.21

 

i'll try to find that dress somewhere in my files, all I remember about it was it looked like spring or summer dresses with flower print and had physics both for the breasts(which the breasts didn't look like they clipped at first glance but once the npc starts running around the boobs clip through with the hdt effect) and the lower half of the dress, which made it look like it blows in the wind when the npc is running around.

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