[Discontinued] Paradise Halls - SexLab Extension v0.1g (15/05/06) (RC 0.6 fixed 16/03/18)

[ExampleJohn]

This doesn't seem to make a lot of sense to me:

 

You tell your slave you're gonna fuck her as a means of punishment. They're cool with that, it uses animations from SL's  non-aggressive registry and counts as consensual sex.

 

You just tell them you're gonna fuck them and they're all of a sudden O NOEZ! most of the time (resulting in aggressive animations).

 

Shouldn't this be the other way around? Or at least that punishment is always aggressive? Admitting, these are slaves with 80+ for respect and submission.

[terrorofmorrowind]

The rename feature does not work, can someone help me`?

 

What happens exactly? Are you using version H? Do you have the "beta" feature on?

 

btw anyone else having problems with freezes?

I finally maaged to get my game somewhat stable again. I don't get any ctd's anymore but now my game freezes every second time i try to enslave somewhat. It happens as soon as the Original npc dissappears ad the new is supposed to come in it's place. I try using the console to "space out" the scripting so that it won't become to cluttered. But to no avail it seems. It sometimes works and sometimes it just doesn't. I have seen this has been an actual bug of pah itself and not really from this extention but i really like to knw a solution for this problem.

 

(btw the last bit is not really for you but for blabla or anyone else who is reading this )

[Narly_Thotep]

 

The rename feature does not work, can someone help me`?

 

What happens exactly? Are you using version H? Do you have the "beta" feature on?

 

btw anyone else having problems with freezes?

I finally maaged to get my game somewhat stable again. I don't get any ctd's anymore but now my game freezes every second time i try to enslave somewhat. It happens as soon as the Original npc dissappears ad the new is supposed to come in it's place. I try using the console to "space out" the scripting so that it won't become to cluttered. But to no avail it seems. It sometimes works and sometimes it just doesn't. I have seen this has been an actual bug of pah itself and not really from this extention but i really like to knw a solution for this problem.

 

(btw the last bit is not really for you but for blabla or anyone else who is reading this )

 

 

I just started trying to get this working today, after getting defeat working, and yeah, my game totally craps itself when I try to enslave someone. Hard freeze then crashes.

[crazycow]

i use v.0.1g+fix

sl v.1.6    everything is ok

 

you don't need attack them  you can setting in mcm  talk and capture

 

 

i think you can selected your slave   you have best slave

 

change name isn't necessaries for your slave when you have best one

 

bandit leader 1 in game

Eisa Blackthorn 1 in game

Saliah

Ari

Silver Hand Warrior  only 2 in game

Sild's Assistant

 Alva

some one can resurrect them for  capture

 

or miner female have name

 

 

 

 

 

[terrorofmorrowind]

 

 

The rename feature does not work, can someone help me`?

 

What happens exactly? Are you using version H? Do you have the "beta" feature on?

 

btw anyone else having problems with freezes?

I finally maaged to get my game somewhat stable again. I don't get any ctd's anymore but now my game freezes every second time i try to enslave somewhat. It happens as soon as the Original npc dissappears ad the new is supposed to come in it's place. I try using the console to "space out" the scripting so that it won't become to cluttered. But to no avail it seems. It sometimes works and sometimes it just doesn't. I have seen this has been an actual bug of pah itself and not really from this extention but i really like to knw a solution for this problem.

 

(btw the last bit is not really for you but for blabla or anyone else who is reading this )

 

 

I just started trying to get this working today, after getting defeat working, and yeah, my game totally craps itself when I try to enslave someone. Hard freeze then crashes.

 

 

Yeah, i have too. Could it be possible that H is not compatible with defeat somehow?

You use H btw right?

 

I believe G with the fix was a lot more stable but then again i didn't use defeat back then. So i'm not very sure. You could Always downgrade your version to G But you have to sadly sell your slaves too because i don't think they are backwards compatible.

 

I only seem to have a freezes and no longer ctd's. are you using modified papyrus settings? After setting mine to the vanilla ones i didn't have any ctd's anymore. Now only these annoying freezes and C++ errors happen. But only if i use sexlab too much or any other relating mod for it.

 

Btw did you try the ssme fix? It allows you to set different ram sizes for the memory the game uses. Usully it's both at 256 mb but i have set it on 756 and 512 mb. Not sure if that was a smart idea. It's worth a try though.

[Narly_Thotep]

 

 

 

 

Yeah, i have too. Could it be possible that H is not compatible with defeat somehow?

You use H btw right?

 

I believe G with the fix was a lot more stable but then again i didn't use defeat back then. So i'm not very sure. You could Always downgrade your version to G But you have to sadly sell your slaves too because i don't think they are backwards compatible.

 

I only seem to have a freezes and no longer ctd's. are you using modified papyrus settings? After setting mine to the vanilla ones i didn't have any ctd's anymore. Now only these annoying freezes and C++ errors happen. But only if i use sexlab too much or any other relating mod for it.

 

Btw did you try the ssme fix? It allows you to set different ram sizes for the memory the game uses. Usully it's both at 256 mb but i have set it on 756 and 512 mb. Not sure if that was a smart idea. It's worth a try though.

 

 

 

 

I seem to have it working kind of ok now. Using the hotfix for H, the script patch for Paradise Halls base from Nexus. If you try to enslave a non-unique npc, just make sure you saved recently or something, I'm pretty certain that that specifically is what causes the issue on occasion, depending on what else is happening at the same time. As for my overall setup, yeah, I'm running most of STEPs basic setup, memory patch and the whole nine yards. Seems to be relatively stable at the moment.

[MortiferusX]

What is exactly included in the repack release? thats what i use.

 

BTW: I have load a older save and the problem is not in this save. Savegame was broken.

[terrorofmorrowind]

 

 

 

 

Yeah, i have too. Could it be possible that H is not compatible with defeat somehow?

You use H btw right?

 

I believe G with the fix was a lot more stable but then again i didn't use defeat back then. So i'm not very sure. You could Always downgrade your version to G But you have to sadly sell your slaves too because i don't think they are backwards compatible.

 

I only seem to have a freezes and no longer ctd's. are you using modified papyrus settings? After setting mine to the vanilla ones i didn't have any ctd's anymore. Now only these annoying freezes and C++ errors happen. But only if i use sexlab too much or any other relating mod for it.

 

Btw did you try the ssme fix? It allows you to set different ram sizes for the memory the game uses. Usully it's both at 256 mb but i have set it on 756 and 512 mb. Not sure if that was a smart idea. It's worth a try though.

 

 

 

 

I seem to have it working kind of ok now. Using the hotfix for H, the script patch for Paradise Halls base from Nexus. If you try to enslave a non-unique npc, just make sure you saved recently or something, I'm pretty certain that that specifically is what causes the issue on occasion, depending on what else is happening at the same time. As for my overall setup, yeah, I'm running most of STEPs basic setup, memory patch and the whole nine yards. Seems to be relatively stable at the moment.

 

 

My errors seem to come from the computer itself. The longe it is on the less, the more likely the game tends to crash.

If i just start up skyrim and i go to an inn it works fine. But if i stop playing but so something else 2 hours later. It crashes.

 

[EinarrTheRed]

Its always seemed to me that Skyrim gets more unstable the longer you play it continuously.  I save periodically and sometimes just shut it down and restart to avoid this.

 

So far as I know there's not direct conflict with using Defeat with PAHE.  I do sometimes get CTDs from Defeat when certain things happen, but that's an issue with Defeat and nothing to do with PAHE so far as I'm aware.

 

One other thing I thought I'd mention.  If you use Save Tool to clean your save games, be VERY careful about using the Advanced tool and specifically anything that messes with Forms.  I haven't fully figured it out but as best I can tell Save Tool can remove some things PAHE uses, it thinks they are unused when actually they are and this can screw with how PAHE works or break parts of it (again, as I have found out the hard way, in my current game I can no longer enslave leveled Nords, unique Nord NPCs are fine but just the leveled encounter Nords is broken).  Cleaning orphaned scripts doesn't seem to cause any issues and can be done safely.

[crazycow]

with out capture

 

i think npc in skyrim not balance  relationship  when i need to edit npc

 

in ck  exp.  sigrid npc

set lover and wife  and in ref id  player ownership npc and delete all faction    ...work with npc no dialog

 

i hit her or kill her not happen everything  she is die and  can't fight back    ok   good  girls

 

but ... when i kill chicken  she hate  me    i run to sky or water   or river    she is stalker  and want kill me very much  :(

[terrorofmorrowind]

Its always seemed to me that Skyrim gets more unstable the longer you play it continuously.  I save periodically and sometimes just shut it down and restart to avoid this.

 

So far as I know there's not direct conflict with using Defeat with PAHE.  I do sometimes get CTDs from Defeat when certain things happen, but that's an issue with Defeat and nothing to do with PAHE so far as I'm aware.

 

One other thing I thought I'd mention.  If you use Save Tool to clean your save games, be VERY careful about using the Advanced tool and specifically anything that messes with Forms.  I haven't fully figured it out but as best I can tell Save Tool can remove some things PAHE uses, it thinks they are unused when actually they are and this can screw with how PAHE works or break parts of it (again, as I have found out the hard way, in my current game I can no longer enslave leveled Nords, unique Nord NPCs are fine but just the leveled encounter Nords is broken).  Cleaning orphaned scripts doesn't seem to cause any issues and can be done safely.

 

Aw, crap. thanks for the advanced suggestion. Btw i found one the causes of my ctd's. You see tw eeks ago tweaked my ini files with the multithreading fix because my laptop has 4 cores. But for some reason it made everything works. Now, what i think happened is that my cores don't have the greatest connection with each other or don't have enough power to handle it all. So everytime i loaded a populated area like inns for example it only loaded "half" of it. Because when i managed to load it, some areas and people and hairs were literally flickering. This often means the compter doesn't have enough memory to load it. I turned the threading off except havok and i can enter them again too. Btw i also got rid of defeat and that did do some good too.

 

Also it's only viable to use multithreading if you have 8 ore more cores because i sw in another post that skyrim does detect 4 cores when it has to on it's own. So using only the havok setting should be enough to let it know that there are 2 more cores it can use.

 

Shouldn't this be the other way around? Or at least that punishment is always aggressive? Admitting, these are slaves with 80+ for respect and submission.

 

No see. A properly trained slave actually wants to be screwed repeatedly; and would gladly go along with it ANY time it's offered.

 

But I get where you're coming from, if there are some that enjoy the attention, why wouldn't there be some that actually want the rough stuff too?

 

I'm not sure if that's something that the current authors of this mod can work with or not, at least not yet. I think they already have tons of code that they're trying to get to run smoothly first, before adding new features.

 

 

Try the sexlab postioner mod. It allows you to scroll through the many animations sexlab has and makes you aso choose between aggressive animations and consentual ones. It's what i Always use.

 

[EinarrTheRed]

Few things.

 

Some of you were talking about favorite NPCs to enslave.  Some of mine are...

Haelga from Riften, she seems like a slut and a bit mean as well.  I sometimes leave Svana alone though, and sometimes make them a matched set... depends on how mean I'm feeling

Muiri from Markarth.  She's another one who got herself in a mess while sleeping around and then wants the Dragonborn to murder a couple people to "clean up" her mess.  I usually see to it she gets what she deserves instead.

I generally leave Igrod the Younger alone... until after the Civil War progresses to the point the battle for Morthal has happened.  Once the two Igrods are at the Blue Palace a lil sneaky slaving of a daughter works to adjust her attitude and finish "humiliating" Igrod the Elder (especially if I bring her fully enslaved and trained daughter back later to show off).

 

Alfhild Battle-born and Gwendolen from the Battle-born farm... because I really don't like the Battle-born clan.

Saffir,she's not much of a mother or a wife so I usually give her a new career.

Fjola, I've been working on a mod that makes her a unique NPC.  Was even thinking of adding some additional stuff to Mistwatch that would be PAHE compatible.  If I ever get it finished I'll release it.

 

About using Defeat.

As I've said, I don't know of any conflicts but I may have encountered one.  I can't confirm it yet and it may just be a random glitch.  If I come across anything definite I'll post what I find.

 

Far as I know Blabla and Clifton are still on vacation so not much happening with the new slave camp.  I am working of a few things including adding some collapsed hallways and such that later could connect to new areas.  There's still a LOT to do to get it finished and ready for release (adding more clutter and debris, moveable static items, and some more NPCs).   I''d eventually like to add an arena where slaves can be forced to fight and you can place bets and such.  But that will have to wait for now.  I'm also thinking maybe outside nearby create a "slave" farm where slaves can be put to work in the fields and so forth, been keeping notes about things people have said they liked about other mods.  Could be fun to have a completed farm with various features specific to PAHE.  Maybe include a "dairy barn" for those using the various milk mods.

 

Long term I'd like to work on a project to "spread" slavery across Skyrim.  Since some have asked for cages, I thought as part of spreading slavery that new small "camps" might appear.  Just small places with a few cages, a slave trader and some guards.  You could sell slaves there (they might not pay as much though) OR you could pay a fee to have some slaves kept there OR you could pay a fee to have slaves transported from there to the main camp at Fellglow.  Basically, you capture a slave (or 2 or 3 or 6) and you take them to one of these small camps.  Once there you tell the slave trader you'd like one or more of those slaves transported to a holding cell at Fellglow.  You point out which ones you want transported and he looks them over and assess a fee.  If you agree the slave gets put in a holding cell and sometime later a couple of guards arrive to escort them to Fellglow for you.  That's the general idea I had anyway.

 

Meanwhile, just to kind of give me a break from the slave camp, I've been working on a couple of new unique followers that will have their own quest line.  They're coming along and I'm planning on publishing them when I'm done.

[Ammo12ga]

It is neat to read about other people having favorites they like to enslave.  I use prison overhaul and like to enslave the bounty hunters and of course anyone that enslaves one of my characters. 

 

I like to have my player enslave as a recruitment for help against the bounty hunters, soldiers, and Falmers that might enslave me with Sanguine's debauchery.  I like to use all the mods where characters get effected by being out for periods of time like RND, Frostfall, Private Needs, Obnoxious Hair, etc. 

 

I really want to get some time to learn about the creation kit and papyrus in order to expand my game and abilities.  I want to make it where my female player can take revenge including castration of her slaves.  I realize it is extreme but she wants one.  Currently she puts them in chastity.  There is a Cilice she would have to where to be able to heal so I really like the challenge and that sometimes she has to run or be sold or taken into slavery. 

 

I also like to take regular followers and enslave them with PAH.  I can't wait until PAH expansion and some camps are available.  You all have done such great work!!!!!  PAH is part of why I can't quit playing to learn how to mod.

 

 

[notreal11]

So this may be the wrong place to ask this question (feel free to point me in the right direction) but how do I get the sex dialog to work? Maybe I am using the wrong files? I added all 5 downloads to my Skyrim folder and and added 0.1g and 0.1g_hotfix last. I have all of the dialog and I can access the mod in SkyrimUI so I'm not sure why it's not working. I'm also using SexLab v1.60. If I select to punish a slave sexually nothing happens. By the way, amazing work on the mod - it looks really impressive so far.

[EinarrTheRed]

If you mean when you punish a slave sexually, no animations are playing then you either don't have the Zaz animations installed OR they are installed but not registered in Sexlab.

 

If you're asking how do you tell a slave you want to have sex with them, there should be a dialog option "Ok slave..."  which brings up a second set of dialog options.  In that second set is an option "I'm going to fuck you".

[EinarrTheRed]

Rather than hijack this thread, I started a new thread here to announce a PAHE add on project I'm working on.  Its a new location with some smexy bandits for you to enslave.  I'm open to suggestions on the development of it, so if you're interested just follow the link.

 

Wet Rock Cave

[gekker]

Weird question, all sex options seem to be aggressive.  What are the consensual dialogue options mentioned in the patch notes?

[EinarrTheRed]

There is an option in the MCM to only use aggressive sex options with slaves, I believe its checked by default, try unchecking that and see if you get the non aggressive animations.

[gekker]

There is an option in the MCM to only use aggressive sex options with slaves, I believe its checked by default, try unchecking that and see if you get the non aggressive animations.

 

I see that option is unchecked, and I have the slave's submission is high.  It is just that all the options for sex are aggressive in dialogue and aggressive animations play.  I read in the notes there are consensual options but am unsure of how to get these to show up.  Like if I have to train them somehow rather than just raising submission.

[blabla11]

Quick update for all of you:

Since my few happy days for this year are now over, I've got a very hard deadline till february...
So I won't be spending much time at home or working on this.

 

Until then, remember to post logs of your issues

[EinarrTheRed]

 

There is an option in the MCM to only use aggressive sex options with slaves, I believe its checked by default, try unchecking that and see if you get the non aggressive animations.

 

I see that option is unchecked, and I have the slave's submission is high.  It is just that all the options for sex are aggressive in dialogue and aggressive animations play.  I read in the notes there are consensual options but am unsure of how to get these to show up.  Like if I have to train them somehow rather than just raising submission.

 

 

Gotcha, key having sex with them so that Sex training gets up above 50 and you should start seeing non aggressive animations I think.  If I understand how it works correctly, below 50 they tend to "resist" so it goes to the aggressive animations anyway.  But once you get over 50 (sometime at 40) in sex training when you tell them you're going to fuck them they respond with something like "I understand" and you can get the non-aggressive animations.

 

At least that's how it seems to work for me, YMMV.  An with Blabla apparently on hiatus until Feb... fudge.

 

Hope things work out okay Blabla, seeya when ya get back.

[gekker]

 

 

There is an option in the MCM to only use aggressive sex options with slaves, I believe its checked by default, try unchecking that and see if you get the non aggressive animations.

 

I see that option is unchecked, and I have the slave's submission is high.  It is just that all the options for sex are aggressive in dialogue and aggressive animations play.  I read in the notes there are consensual options but am unsure of how to get these to show up.  Like if I have to train them somehow rather than just raising submission.

 

 

Gotcha, key having sex with them so that Sex training gets up above 50 and you should start seeing non aggressive animations I think.  If I understand how it works correctly, below 50 they tend to "resist" so it goes to the aggressive animations anyway.  But once you get over 50 (sometime at 40) in sex training when you tell them you're going to fuck them they respond with something like "I understand" and you can get the non-aggressive animations.

 

At least that's how it seems to work for me, YMMV.  An with Blabla apparently on hiatus until Feb... fudge.

 

Hope things work out okay Blabla, seeya when ya get back.

 

 

Makes sense, thanks for the reply!  I see the sex training stat is too low on my slaves.  Time to get to work.

 

 

And thanks for the mod bla!

 

[Sural Argonus]

I am having an odd issue.  Upgraded to 1h, and the slaves keep losing their names and being unable to interact with.  I can rename them and can interact again, but it doesn't last.  Not sure if it's something I did, or if it's something with the mod.  About to uninstall it completely and do a clean save.  Then reinstall it.  Anyone got any other ideas?

[learnedcock]

Random thought: I'd like to see dialogue options to order slaves to masturbate, fuck each other (or a target), or to have a threesome with you.

[crazycow]

in HF home slave can work