Milk Mod Economy

fizzybutt · January 8, 2017

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I use both mods together, but I typically set the breast scaling in SGO to something like 1.45 with a max of 9 bottles of milk. That ends up being +0.05/milk, which is the same as MME. Keep in mind though that the default setting for NiO scaling is mutlipicative, so your female character's tits end up being MME scale X SGO scale. I tried changing it to additive, and it just made the breasts a lot larger. At higher milk maid levels, I tend to adjust SGO down to 1.10 because MME's default 3.00 max scaling X 1.45 = 4.45, which starts to clip and look weird with my body preset. I'll say this too... with SGO 1.45, you should see the breasts reduce in size with each milk removed, but at 1.10, only the final two milk bottles will change the size.

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Leowulf-

In your noverride.ini file

"Determines Scaling Mode"

iScaleMode=3 (this sets scaling mode to Largest)

"Determines Combination mode for BodyMorph"

iBodyMorphMode=0 (sets it to Additive)

I use this setup running Milk Mod and SGO together. With SGO at about 1.60 and Milk Mod at about 1.85 for max breast scale, I can get reasonable result. I tend to turn off SGO breast scaling for followers who are also milk maids and then tweak individual follower breast scaling inside MME. Normal NPCs would be governed by SGO and if I happen to want a real cow, then an NPC would get both SGO AND MME doing breast scaling.

If using SGO and an NPC is pregnant and has inflated breasts.... SGO-milk them FIRST before making them a milk maid or MME will see their inflated size (from SGO) as their base breast size.

Or simply make them a milk maid first and THEN get them pregnant.

Using the above NioverRide.ini settings whichever mod is requesting the larger scaling will be applied. If MME requests a larger scale than SGO, then MME's scaling is applied visually... if SGO requests a larger scale than MME has currently applied, then SGO's scale request is applied.

With both SGO and MME scaling with these settings you can see the breast size "step down" as milk from eaqch mod is removed during milking.

Right now I *think* only Jugs milks from both MME and SGO at the same time using breast feeding animation.

Does that help at all?

Yes, it is helpful. The issue is that I really want both mods to add and remove milk and size independently, without stepping on each other. I had found the settings you listed and decided that it wasn't quite was I was after. Ideally, I would want MME milk + SGO milk = total milk and size, such that I could milk one or the other and have the tits deflate proportional to the number of milks removed, regardless of the mod that did it.

There was a C.A.N.S. framework in development that looked like it was going to do exactly what I needed, but then the author decided not to continue the project. It's a shame because if mod authors like Ed86 and darkconsole had adopted it, I think it would have worked. I remember Ed86 having support for it in MME at one point.

I use the SL inflation framework, which is actively being maintained. Does a really nice job of keeping my 7 mods that used to fight in line.

chajapa · January 8, 2017

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I use both mods together, but I typically set the breast scaling in SGO to something like 1.45 with a max of 9 bottles of milk. That ends up being +0.05/milk, which is the same as MME. Keep in mind though that the default setting for NiO scaling is mutlipicative, so your female character's tits end up being MME scale X SGO scale. I tried changing it to additive, and it just made the breasts a lot larger. At higher milk maid levels, I tend to adjust SGO down to 1.10 because MME's default 3.00 max scaling X 1.45 = 4.45, which starts to clip and look weird with my body preset. I'll say this too... with SGO 1.45, you should see the breasts reduce in size with each milk removed, but at 1.10, only the final two milk bottles will change the size.

--snipped after to conserve electrons --

Leowulf-

In your noverride.ini file

"Determines Scaling Mode"

iScaleMode=3 (this sets scaling mode to Largest)

"Determines Combination mode for BodyMorph"

iBodyMorphMode=0 (sets it to Additive)

I use this setup running Milk Mod and SGO together. With SGO at about 1.60 and Milk Mod at about 1.85 for max breast scale, I can get reasonable result. I tend to turn off SGO breast scaling for followers who are also milk maids and then tweak individual follower breast scaling inside MME. Normal NPCs would be governed by SGO and if I happen to want a real cow, then an NPC would get both SGO AND MME doing breast scaling.

If using SGO and an NPC is pregnant and has inflated breasts.... SGO-milk them FIRST before making them a milk maid or MME will see their inflated size (from SGO) as their base breast size.

Or simply make them a milk maid first and THEN get them pregnant.

Using the above NioverRide.ini settings whichever mod is requesting the larger scaling will be applied. If MME requests a larger scale than SGO, then MME's scaling is applied visually... if SGO requests a larger scale than MME has currently applied, then SGO's scale request is applied.

With both SGO and MME scaling with these settings you can see the breast size "step down" as milk from eaqch mod is removed during milking.

Right now I *think* only Jugs milks from both MME and SGO at the same time using breast feeding animation.

Does that help at all?

Yes, it is helpful. The issue is that I really want both mods to add and remove milk and size independently, without stepping on each other. I had found the settings you listed and decided that it wasn't quite was I was after. Ideally, I would want MME milk + SGO milk = total milk and size, such that I could milk one or the other and have the tits deflate proportional to the number of milks removed, regardless of the mod that did it.

There was a C.A.N.S. framework in development that looked like it was going to do exactly what I needed, but then the author decided not to continue the project. It's a shame because if mod authors like Ed86 and darkconsole had adopted it, I think it would have worked. I remember Ed86 having support for it in MME at one point.

hmmm... ok...not sure what you mean then. They do the sizing independently. Just that NiO itself is doing what the inflation frameworks were doing....or trying to do.

example using simple numbers:

assume base breast size is 1

SGO inflates 1 milk to size 1.06

MME then inflates one size to 1.05

VISUALLY....you see the 1.06 size (largest)

If you milk the SGO milk only, SGO requests remove inflation which, by itself would go back to base size 1... BUT.... MME has requested 1.05, so that is now the largest request and that's what you see visually.

Like.... all of the size requests are i que. they don't go away when one takes precedence over the other. NiO simply remembers and shows the largest of whatever is in the que of requests.

If both MME and SGO are full ...say SGO's last request was for 1.85 (pretend you set that as max size in SGO), and MME is full at 1.65 (the max you set i MME)..... If you milk only the SGO milk.... the breast will only go DOWN to 1.65 visually even though SGO has removed all inflation requests and as far as SGO is concerned, the breast is at base size.

Basically... as long as your mods use NiO, you don't NEED an inflation framework as NiO now does it all internally.

*jbezorg* · January 8, 2017

On the current version available for DL. Defiantly hit "no" on the ineed support during the install. Second install I toggled the option to "yes" and then back to "no" and get the same result.

Obviously a brand new game.

*jbezorg* · January 8, 2017

Things just go south when the stack dumps start

[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] MilkModEconomy ActorCheck cycle
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] error: Cannot access an element of a None array
stack:
	[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.ActorCheck() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 457
	[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.GetCurrentHourOfDay() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 368
	[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.OnUpdateGameTime() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 353
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] MilkModEconomy ActorCheck cycle
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] MilkModEconomy ActorCheck cycle
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] error: Cannot access an element of a None array
stack:
	[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.ActorCheck() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 457
	[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.GetCurrentHourOfDay() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 368
	[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.OnUpdateGameTime() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 353
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] MilkModEconomy ActorCheck cycle
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] error: Cannot access an element of a None array
stack:
	[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.ActorCheck() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 457
	[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.GetCurrentHourOfDay() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 368
	[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.OnUpdateGameTime() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 353
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] MilkModEconomy ActorCheck cycle
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] error: Cannot access an element of a None array
stack:
	[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.ActorCheck() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 457
	[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.GetCurrentHourOfDay() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 368
	[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.OnUpdateGameTime() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 353
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] error: Cannot call IsPregnant() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
	[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.IsPregnant() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 3027
	[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.ActorCheck() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 459
	[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.GetCurrentHourOfDay() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 368
	[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.OnUpdateGameTime() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 353
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp351"
stack:
	[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.IsPregnant() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 3027
	[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.ActorCheck() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 459
	[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.GetCurrentHourOfDay() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 368
	[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.OnUpdateGameTime() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 353
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] error: Cannot call IsPregnant() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
	[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.IsPregnant() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 3033
	[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.ActorCheck() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 459
	[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.GetCurrentHourOfDay() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 368
	[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.OnUpdateGameTime() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 353
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp351"
stack:
	[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.IsPregnant() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 3033
	[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.ActorCheck() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 459
	[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.GetCurrentHourOfDay() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 368
	[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.OnUpdateGameTime() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 353
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] error: Cannot call IsPregnant() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
	[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.IsPregnant() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 3045
	[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.ActorCheck() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 459
	[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.GetCurrentHourOfDay() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 368
	[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.OnUpdateGameTime() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 353
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp351"
stack:
	[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.IsPregnant() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 3045
	[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.ActorCheck() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 459
	[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.GetCurrentHourOfDay() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 368
	[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.OnUpdateGameTime() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 353
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] DT: Start process
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] Suspended stack count is over our warning threshold, dumping stacks:
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] VM is freezing...
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] VM is frozen
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] Dumping stack 34440:
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Frame count: 0 (Page count: 0)
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	State: Waiting on other stack for call (Freeze state: Freezing)
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Type: Normal
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Return register: None
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Has stack callback: No
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Stack trace:
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 		[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.OnUpdateGameTime() - (requested call)
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] Dumping stack 34241:
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Frame count: 2 (Page count: 1)
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	State: Waiting on other stack for return (Freeze state: Freezing)
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Type: Normal
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Return register: None
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Has stack callback: No
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Stack trace:
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 		<unknown self>.utility.Wait() - "<native>" Line ?
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			IP: 0
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[param1]: 5.000000
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 		[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.OnUpdateGameTime() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 352
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			IP: 148	Instruction: 4	Line: 352
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp2]: True
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp3]: 0.000000
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::NoneVar]: None
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] Dumping stack 34218:
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Frame count: 2 (Page count: 1)
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	State: Waiting on other stack for return (Freeze state: Freezing)
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Type: Normal
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Return register: None
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Has stack callback: No
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Stack trace:
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 		<unknown self>.utility.Wait() - "<native>" Line ?
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			IP: 0
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[param1]: 5.000000
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 		[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.OnUpdateGameTime() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 352
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			IP: 148	Instruction: 4	Line: 352
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp2]: True
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp3]: 0.000000
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::NoneVar]: None
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] Dumping stack 34294:
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Frame count: 2 (Page count: 1)
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	State: Waiting on latent function (Freeze state: Freezing)
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Type: Normal
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Return register: None
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Has stack callback: No
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Stack trace:
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 		<unknown self>.utility.Wait() - "<native>" Line ?
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			IP: 0
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[param1]: 5.000000
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 		[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.OnUpdateGameTime() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 352
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			IP: 148	Instruction: 4	Line: 352
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp2]: True
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp3]: 0.000000
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::NoneVar]: None
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] Dumping stack 34205:
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Frame count: 2 (Page count: 1)
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	State: Waiting on other stack for return (Freeze state: Freezing)
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Type: Normal
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Return register: None
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Has stack callback: No
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Stack trace:
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 		<unknown self>.utility.Wait() - "<native>" Line ?
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			IP: 0
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[param1]: 5.000000
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 		[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.OnUpdateGameTime() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 352
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			IP: 148	Instruction: 4	Line: 352
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp2]: True
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp3]: 0.000000
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::NoneVar]: None
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] Dumping stack 34291:
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Frame count: 2 (Page count: 1)
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	State: Waiting on other stack for return (Freeze state: Freezing)
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Type: Normal
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Return register: None
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Has stack callback: No
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Stack trace:
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 		<unknown self>.utility.Wait() - "<native>" Line ?
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			IP: 0
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[param1]: 5.000000
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 		[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.OnUpdateGameTime() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 352
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			IP: 148	Instruction: 4	Line: 352
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp2]: True
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp3]: 0.000000
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::NoneVar]: None
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] Dumping stack 34223:
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Frame count: 2 (Page count: 1)
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	State: Waiting on other stack for return (Freeze state: Freezing)
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Type: Normal
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Return register: None
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Has stack callback: No
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Stack trace:
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 		<unknown self>.utility.Wait() - "<native>" Line ?
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			IP: 0
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[param1]: 5.000000
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 		[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.OnUpdateGameTime() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 352
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			IP: 148	Instruction: 4	Line: 352
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp2]: True
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp3]: 0.000000
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::NoneVar]: None
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] Dumping stack 34244:
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Frame count: 2 (Page count: 1)
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	State: Waiting on other stack for return (Freeze state: Freezing)
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Type: Normal
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Return register: None
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Has stack callback: No
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Stack trace:
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 		<unknown self>.utility.Wait() - "<native>" Line ?
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			IP: 0
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[param1]: 5.000000
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 		[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.OnUpdateGameTime() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 352
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			IP: 148	Instruction: 4	Line: 352
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp2]: True
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp3]: 0.000000
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::NoneVar]: None
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] Dumping stack 34213:
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Frame count: 2 (Page count: 1)
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	State: Waiting on other stack for return (Freeze state: Freezing)
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Type: Normal
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Return register: None
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Has stack callback: No
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Stack trace:
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 		<unknown self>.utility.Wait() - "<native>" Line ?
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			IP: 0
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[param1]: 5.000000
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 		[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.OnUpdateGameTime() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 352
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			IP: 148	Instruction: 4	Line: 352
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp2]: True
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp3]: 0.000000
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::NoneVar]: None
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] Dumping stack 34254:
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Frame count: 2 (Page count: 1)
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	State: Waiting on other stack for return (Freeze state: Freezing)
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Type: Normal
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Return register: None
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Has stack callback: No
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Stack trace:
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 		<unknown self>.utility.Wait() - "<native>" Line ?
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			IP: 0
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[param1]: 5.000000
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 		[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.OnUpdateGameTime() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 352
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			IP: 148	Instruction: 4	Line: 352
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp2]: True
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp3]: 0.000000
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::NoneVar]: None
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] Dumping stack 34251:
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Frame count: 2 (Page count: 1)
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	State: Waiting on other stack for return (Freeze state: Freezing)
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Type: Normal
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Return register: None
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Has stack callback: No
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Stack trace:
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 		<unknown self>.utility.Wait() - "<native>" Line ?
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			IP: 0
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[param1]: 5.000000
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 		[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.OnUpdateGameTime() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 352
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			IP: 148	Instruction: 4	Line: 352
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp2]: True
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp3]: 0.000000
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::NoneVar]: None
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] Dumping stack 34208:
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Frame count: 2 (Page count: 1)
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	State: Waiting on other stack for return (Freeze state: Freezing)
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Type: Normal
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Return register: None
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Has stack callback: No
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Stack trace:
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 		<unknown self>.utility.Wait() - "<native>" Line ?
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			IP: 0
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[param1]: 5.000000
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 		[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.OnUpdateGameTime() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 352
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			IP: 148	Instruction: 4	Line: 352
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp2]: True
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp3]: 0.000000
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::NoneVar]: None
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] Dumping stack 34182:
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Frame count: 3 (Page count: 2)
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	State: Waiting on other stack for return (Freeze state: Freezing)
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Type: Normal
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Return register: 0.499574
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Has stack callback: No
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Stack trace:
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 		<unknown self>.utility.GetCurrentGameTime() - "<native>" Line ?
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			IP: 0
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 		[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.GetCurrentHourOfDay() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 361
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			IP: 0	Instruction: 0	Line: 361
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp4]: 0.000000
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp5]: False
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[time]: 0.000000
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp6]: 0
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp7]: 0
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp8]: False
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[scriptupdatetimes]: 0
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::NoneVar]: None
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 		[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.OnUpdateGameTime() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 353
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			IP: 269	Instruction: 5	Line: 353
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp2]: True
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp3]: 0.000000
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::NoneVar]: None
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] Dumping stack 34285:
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Frame count: 2 (Page count: 1)
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	State: Waiting on other stack for return (Freeze state: Freezing)
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Type: Normal
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Return register: None
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Has stack callback: No
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Stack trace:
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 		<unknown self>.utility.Wait() - "<native>" Line ?
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			IP: 0
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[param1]: 5.000000
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 		[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.OnUpdateGameTime() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 352
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			IP: 148	Instruction: 4	Line: 352
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp2]: True
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp3]: 0.000000
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::NoneVar]: None
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] Dumping stack 34225:
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Frame count: 2 (Page count: 1)
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	State: Waiting on other stack for return (Freeze state: Freezing)
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Type: Normal
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Return register: None
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Has stack callback: No
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Stack trace:
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 		<unknown self>.utility.Wait() - "<native>" Line ?
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			IP: 0
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[param1]: 5.000000
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 		[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.OnUpdateGameTime() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 352
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			IP: 148	Instruction: 4	Line: 352
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp2]: True
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp3]: 0.000000
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::NoneVar]: None
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] Dumping stack 34266:
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Frame count: 2 (Page count: 1)
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	State: Waiting on other stack for return (Freeze state: Freezing)
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Type: Normal
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Return register: None
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Has stack callback: No
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Stack trace:
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 		<unknown self>.utility.Wait() - "<native>" Line ?
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			IP: 0
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[param1]: 5.000000
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 		[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.OnUpdateGameTime() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 352
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			IP: 148	Instruction: 4	Line: 352
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp2]: True
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp3]: 0.000000
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::NoneVar]: None
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] Dumping stack 34271:
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Frame count: 2 (Page count: 1)
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	State: Waiting on other stack for return (Freeze state: Freezing)
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Type: Normal
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Return register: None
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Has stack callback: No
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Stack trace:
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 		<unknown self>.utility.Wait() - "<native>" Line ?
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			IP: 0
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[param1]: 5.000000
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 		[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.OnUpdateGameTime() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 352
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			IP: 148	Instruction: 4	Line: 352
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp2]: True
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp3]: 0.000000
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::NoneVar]: None
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] Dumping stack 34228:
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Frame count: 2 (Page count: 1)
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	State: Waiting on other stack for return (Freeze state: Freezing)
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Type: Normal
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Return register: None
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Has stack callback: No
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Stack trace:
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 		<unknown self>.utility.Wait() - "<native>" Line ?
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			IP: 0
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[param1]: 5.000000
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 		[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.OnUpdateGameTime() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 352
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			IP: 148	Instruction: 4	Line: 352
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp2]: True
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp3]: 0.000000
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::NoneVar]: None
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] Dumping stack 34280:
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Frame count: 2 (Page count: 1)
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	State: Waiting on other stack for return (Freeze state: Freezing)
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Type: Normal
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Return register: None
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Has stack callback: No
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Stack trace:
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 		<unknown self>.utility.Wait() - "<native>" Line ?
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			IP: 0
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[param1]: 5.000000
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 		[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.OnUpdateGameTime() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 352
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			IP: 148	Instruction: 4	Line: 352
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp2]: True
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp3]: 0.000000
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::NoneVar]: None
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] Dumping stack 34261:
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Frame count: 2 (Page count: 1)
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	State: Waiting on other stack for return (Freeze state: Freezing)
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Type: Normal
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Return register: None
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Has stack callback: No
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Stack trace:
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 		<unknown self>.utility.Wait() - "<native>" Line ?
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			IP: 0
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[param1]: 5.000000
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 		[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.OnUpdateGameTime() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 352
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			IP: 148	Instruction: 4	Line: 352
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp2]: True
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp3]: 0.000000
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::NoneVar]: None
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] Dumping stack 34238:
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Frame count: 2 (Page count: 1)
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	State: Waiting on other stack for return (Freeze state: Freezing)
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Type: Normal
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Return register: None
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Has stack callback: No
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Stack trace:
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 		<unknown self>.utility.Wait() - "<native>" Line ?
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			IP: 0
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[param1]: 5.000000
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 		[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.OnUpdateGameTime() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 352
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			IP: 148	Instruction: 4	Line: 352
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp2]: True
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp3]: 0.000000
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::NoneVar]: None
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] Dumping stack 34274:
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Frame count: 2 (Page count: 1)
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	State: Waiting on other stack for return (Freeze state: Freezing)
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Type: Normal
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Return register: None
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Has stack callback: No
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Stack trace:
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 		<unknown self>.utility.Wait() - "<native>" Line ?
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			IP: 0
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[param1]: 5.000000
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 		[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.OnUpdateGameTime() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 352
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			IP: 148	Instruction: 4	Line: 352
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp2]: True
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp3]: 0.000000
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::NoneVar]: None
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] Dumping stack 34279:
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Frame count: 2 (Page count: 1)
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	State: Waiting on other stack for return (Freeze state: Freezing)
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Type: Normal
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Return register: None
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Has stack callback: No
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Stack trace:
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 		<unknown self>.utility.Wait() - "<native>" Line ?
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			IP: 0
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[param1]: 5.000000
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 		[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.OnUpdateGameTime() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 352
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			IP: 148	Instruction: 4	Line: 352
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp2]: True
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp3]: 0.000000
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::NoneVar]: None
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] Dumping stack 34235:
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Frame count: 2 (Page count: 1)
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	State: Waiting on other stack for return (Freeze state: Freezing)
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Type: Normal
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Return register: None
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Has stack callback: No
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Stack trace:
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 		<unknown self>.utility.Wait() - "<native>" Line ?
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			IP: 0
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[param1]: 5.000000
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 		[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.OnUpdateGameTime() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 352
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			IP: 148	Instruction: 4	Line: 352
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp2]: True
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp3]: 0.000000
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::NoneVar]: None
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] Dumping stack 34256:
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Frame count: 3 (Page count: 2)
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	State: Waiting on other stack for return (Freeze state: Freezing)
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Type: Normal
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Return register: 0.499610
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Has stack callback: No
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 	Stack trace:
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 		<unknown self>.utility.GetCurrentGameTime() - "<native>" Line ?
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			IP: 0
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 		[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.GetCurrentHourOfDay() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 361
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			IP: 0	Instruction: 0	Line: 361
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp4]: 0.000000
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp5]: False
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[time]: 0.000000
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp6]: 0
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp7]: 0
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp8]: False
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[scriptupdatetimes]: 0
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::NoneVar]: None
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 		[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.OnUpdateGameTime() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 353
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			IP: 269	Instruction: 5	Line: 353
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp2]: True
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::temp3]: 0.000000
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] 			[::NoneVar]: None

Papyrus.0.log

*jbezorg* · January 9, 2017

Did a manual install of the ineed -> false plugin script and still getting the same error.

Zor2k13 · January 9, 2017

Ever since cursed loot mod changed scaling options I am noticing this mod and cursed loot and SGO fighting for scaling control which causes belly scaling to just not work most of the time. I remember when I still had the old version of the mod I had to set that NiO setting to average instead of largest otherwise the scaling would just keep scaling and never stop causing gigantic boobs and body after a few things happened to my character.

wurmsrus · January 9, 2017

Sorry if this has been asked before but is there anyway to use the futa milking cuirass with CBBE?

*Ed86* · January 9, 2017

On the current version available for DL.

you has not current version

Things just go south when the stack dumps start

[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] MilkModEconomy ActorCheck cycle
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] error: Cannot access an element of a None array
stack:
	[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.ActorCheck() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 457
	[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.GetCurrentHourOfDay() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 368
	[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.OnUpdateGameTime() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 353

current version has

debug.Trace("MilkModEconomy ActorCheck cycle") @ line 457 which cant cause errors

same goes to other lines

its its either you screwed during install with esp/scripts or you have so many mods that your skyrim decided to learn magic and go to Narnia

oh and you also have bunch of other broken mods with missing dependencies

Ever since cursed loot mod changed scaling options I am noticing this mod and cursed loot and SGO fighting for scaling control which causes belly scaling to just not work most of the time. I remember when I still had the old version of the mod I had to set that NiO setting to average instead of largest otherwise the scaling would just keep scaling and never stop causing gigantic boobs and body after a few things happened to my character.

so... its cursed loot fault why write here? MME doesnot have active node monitoring, it updates every few mins at set intervals of time

Sorry if this has been asked before but is there anyway to use the futa milking cuirass with CBBE?

well you could try using bodyslide

or use normal one with male milking thing sos addon

Bushi Neko · January 9, 2017

Ever since cursed loot mod changed scaling options I am noticing this mod and cursed loot and SGO fighting for scaling control which causes belly scaling to just not work most of the time. I remember when I still had the old version of the mod I had to set that NiO setting to average instead of largest otherwise the scaling would just keep scaling and never stop causing gigantic boobs and body after a few things happened to my character.

http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/2360-sexlab-inflation-framework/ works like a charm for all those nagging cum / preggo / inflation issues. I had the same problems now my character inflates / deflates with no problems. Overfeeding lactacid works, gems work, cum works, and even the dissolver works fine... " Inflation Framework "

DoctorUchiha · January 9, 2017

Hey, I've been trying to get this mod working for quite some time now, but every time I put my follower in the Milk Machine the animations load up fine, but the game then crashes right after. I've installed everything right, but im not quite sure why this is happening! I'm using Lydia and the milk pumps in whiterun.

*Ed86* · January 9, 2017

the game crashes. I've installed everything right.

....

install custom body/skeleton

DoctorUchiha · January 9, 2017

the game crashes. I've installed everything right.

....

install custom body/skeleton

Yup this was the issue, something with the custom skeleton didn't install correctly the first time, just reinstalled and it all works perfectly! Thank you so much, good work!

*jbezorg* · January 10, 2017

On the current version available for DL.
you has not current version
Things just go south when the stack dumps start
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] MilkModEconomy ActorCheck cycle
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] error: Cannot access an element of a None array
stack:
	[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.ActorCheck() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 457
	[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.GetCurrentHourOfDay() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 368
	[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.OnUpdateGameTime() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 353
current version has
debug.Trace("MilkModEconomy ActorCheck cycle") @ line 457 which cant cause errors

same goes to other lines

its its either you screwed during install with esp/scripts or you have so many mods that your skyrim decided to learn magic and go to Narnia

oh and you also have bunch of other broken mods with missing dependencies

No. I know how to install mods and I've made a few myself.

I downloaded and installed "Milk Mod Economy 2016-12-31.7z" and Wrye Smash shows all dependencies loaded.

If I was missing hard dependencies I would have CTD'ed. Instead your scripts are working except when it comes to iNeed. You can see that it's loading and detecting the other plugins that are there, and not there, fine in the screenshot I uploaded.

*Ed86* · January 10, 2017

On the current version available for DL.
you has not current version
Things just go south when the stack dumps start
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] MilkModEconomy ActorCheck cycle
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] error: Cannot access an element of a None array
stack:
	[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.ActorCheck() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 457
	[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.GetCurrentHourOfDay() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 368
	[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.OnUpdateGameTime() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 353
current version has
debug.Trace("MilkModEconomy ActorCheck cycle") @ line 457 which cant cause errors

same goes to other lines

its its either you screwed during install with esp/scripts or you have so many mods that your skyrim decided to learn magic and go to Narnia

oh and you also have bunch of other broken mods with missing dependencies
No. I know how to install mods and I've made a few myself.

I downloaded and installed "Milk Mod Economy 2016-12-31.7z" and Wrye Smash shows all dependencies loaded.

If I was missing hard dependencies I would have CTD'ed. Instead your scripts are working except when it comes to iNeed. You can see that it's loading and detecting the other plugins that are there, and not there, fine in the screenshot I uploaded.

hm....

[01/08/2017 - 05:55:19PM] Cannot open store for class "ddunequiphandlerscript", missing file?

is missing dependency, errors above and below are most likely broken mods, you get around 500 lines oh these, then, when mods start to load and you get another 1k of errors/ debug info, then then around line 1.5k milk mod tries to run and crashes, since skyrim cant link mme to player, quest and scripts

[01/08/2017 - 05:55:43PM] error: MilkPlayerLoadGame.OnPlayerLoadGame() being called on an invalid object, aborting function call
stack:
<empty stack>

^script attached to player alias and since game fails to load quest/script, idk, it gets terminated and MME does not intitialize correctly

at around [01/08/2017 - 05:55:54PM] starts check quest, that throws out error popup, it registers for mod check in 60 sec and you get :

[01/08/2017 - 05:56:54PM] MilkModEconomy MilkPlayerLoadGame.Maintenance() script has not set MME_Status_Global to 1, retry check in 60 sec

because MilkPlayerLoadGame never started/initiated

since MilkPlayerLoadGame script is broken and not working, skyrim or someone else spawns magic fairies and unicorns, they do magic and somehow register milkquest and milkecon for update(EDIT okay, this is probably done by mcm(which is also has incorrect values/flags) which is the only source of RegisterForSingleUpdateGameTime other than MilkPlayerLoadGame )

at [01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] some how starts ActorCheck, since well... it shouldnt

[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] MilkModEconomy ActorCheck cycle
[01/08/2017 - 05:57:37PM] error: Cannot access an element of a None array
stack:
[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.ActorCheck() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 457
[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.GetCurrentHourOfDay() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 368
[MME_MilkQUEST (F400E209)].milkquest.OnUpdateGameTime() - "MilkQUEST.psc" Line 353

which is called by:

int i = 0
If MilkMaid[i] != PlayerRef && PlayerRef.GetLeveledActorBase().GetSex() == 1 && isPregnant(PlayerRef)
debug.Trace("MilkModEconomy Player is not milkmaid, but pregnant and female, making player milkmaid")
AssignSlot(PlayerRef)
EndIf

since mod is broken and PlayerRef, Actor Property PlayerREF Auto, which is formid Player [00000014] never linked, and therefore MilkMaid == None, and you get errors

since MilkPoll wasnot set/linked, mod registers for single update instantly(0) and enters neverending loop

okay.... that error log spam can be fixed(should i even bother?) with if MilkMaid != None like other lines below it but it wont fix the source of problem

at [01/08/2017 - 05:59:25PM] game tries to divide by zero(since value it should divide by not initialized int Property divnull = 10 Auto) and opens blackhole in your pc

[01/08/2017 - 05:59:25PM] error: Cannot divide by zero
stack:
[MME_ECON (F4069FB5)].milkecon.MilkEcoRestore() - "MilkECON.psc" Line 861
[MME_ECON (F4069FB5)].milkecon.MilkEcoCycle() - "MilkECON.psc" Line 209
[MME_ECON (F4069FB5)].milkecon.OnUpdateGameTime() - "MilkECON.psc" Line 178

oh and ineed..... well i'd blame unicorns and their rainbows, its totally because of their pi.... i mean rainbows, quest not starting

tl;dr

User error

there these 2 scripts, will throw you msgbox with error and probably prevent loops

scripts.7z

cetuximab · January 10, 2017

Hey, one small request for the next version (not urgent): In the installer, for the premade milking cuirass, can you give us a "none" option? I have playthroughs for both CBBE and UUNP bodies, so I build the cuirass myself and put the meshes into their own "mod" (with Mod Organizer) depending on the body type I am playing with, so it would be helpful if my MME mod does not have any meshes in it that could conflict with the ones I build.

*jbezorg* · January 11, 2017

tl;dr

User error

This is the weird part. The following is from SexlabUtil1 ( obviously ) but for version 1.15. I've had version 1.16 installed since 11/23/2014 03:56:24 PM EST according to Wrye Smash and do you know any mod that has SexlabUtil1 listed as a requirement?

[01/11/2017 - 12:16:57AM] Cannot open store for class "SexlabUtil1DispelDur", missing file?

This is for private needs and I know of no mod that requires Private Needs. I don't have it installed

[01/11/2017 - 12:16:56AM] Cannot open store for class "privateneedsutilityscript", missing file?

This is from Interesting NPCs. Not installed

[01/11/2017 - 12:16:56AM] Cannot open store for class "follower3dnpc", missing file?

These are from Equipping Overhaul. Not installed

[01/11/2017 - 12:16:56AM] Cannot open store for class "ddunequiphandlerscript", missing file?
[01/11/2017 - 12:16:56AM] Cannot open store for class "ddunequipmcmscript", missing file?

I guess some of these are soft requirement checks from other mods but nothing I have installed have these as a requirement.

Do you have these installed? Because I am baffled as to how version 1.15 of SexlabUtil1, released more than 2 years ago, can be a requirement.

*Ed86* · January 11, 2017

tl;dr

User error

This is the weird part. The following is from SexlabUtil1 ( obviously ) but for version 1.15. I've had version 1.16 installed since 11/23/2014 03:56:24 PM EST according to Wrye Smash and do you know any mod that has SexlabUtil1 listed as a requirement?
[01/11/2017 - 12:16:57AM] Cannot open store for class "SexlabUtil1DispelDur", missing file?
This is for private needs and I know of no mod that requires Private Needs. I don't have it installed
[01/11/2017 - 12:16:56AM] Cannot open store for class "privateneedsutilityscript", missing file?
This is from Interesting NPCs. Not installed
[01/11/2017 - 12:16:56AM] Cannot open store for class "follower3dnpc", missing file?
These are from Equipping Overhaul. Not installed
[01/11/2017 - 12:16:56AM] Cannot open store for class "ddunequiphandlerscript", missing file?[01/11/2017 - 12:16:56AM] Cannot open store for class "ddunequipmcmscript", missing file?
I guess some of these are soft requirement checks from other mods but nothing I have installed have these as a requirement.

Do you have these installed? Because I am baffled as to how version 1.15 of SexlabUtil1, released more than 2 years ago, can be a requirement.

Well newbs make soft dependencies in scripts, but... They arent really soft, id rather say they can work or break skyrim, there are many "if"s. I've learned this hard way around year ago, thats why i made current plugins system with true/false installs, if you install all true but dont have dependencies, you'll get these class ? errors and mme will likely stop working, in worst case scenarios like yours they prevent other mods working, probably only bethasda can give answer why its so

If i understand correctly in f4 such dependencies might work ok, but i havent tried so....

You can try searching these dependencies inside scripts folder, unless modder decided to screw you and make bsa then it'll take a lot longer

Talsar · January 11, 2017

is there a CBBE conversion for the Futa Cuirass? I can't find one.

Jimjim117 · January 12, 2017

Is there a way I can make an npc a milkmaid with a spell or console command? I'm having some problems with Serana.

Talsar · January 12, 2017

Is there a way I can make an npc a milkmaid with a spell or console command? I'm having some problems with Serana.

add the MME Milk a friend spell from the Milk Mod MCM menu. and cast it on an npc.

Jimjim117 · January 12, 2017

Is there a way I can make an npc a milkmaid with a spell or console command? I'm having some problems with Serana.

add the MME Milk a friend spell from the Milk Mod MCM menu. and cast it on an npc.

It just tells me that the target is not a milk maid/has no milk. I need to turn Serana into a milkmaid first. But she doesn't want to use the milking machines and I can't get the dialogue options to show up, though I am using an older version of the mod. I tried adding her to the milkmaid faction via the console but it still says target is not a milk maid/has no milk.

The problem could be my old version of the mod. The mod breaks when I update to a new version on my existing save. So I've been sticking with the old version that I have since I've had no problems except for this one with making Serana a milk maid.

Basically I just want to know If I can manually apply some effect to her so that she is registered as a milk maid since I can't get it to work via the other options?

*Ed86* · January 12, 2017

Is there a way I can make an npc a milkmaid with a spell or console command? I'm having some problems with Serana.

Same rules as player, make her drink lactacid or pregnant

BlackShades · January 12, 2017

Having a small issue with getting the estrus animations to kick in. Been using your mod for years without any serious issues, so not really certain what i am doing differently this time.To clarify...

I updated both milkmod and EC+ to the latest versions. Started a new game. Registered a cuirass as parasitic in the milkmod armor section. When the time comes, the initial "explosion" from Estrus happens, milking starts, lactacid is being fed, in other words everything works ok except the animations. Estrus+ works fine, animations wise, so not really sure what i could be doing wrong. Does the load order of those 2 mods matter? I usually put milkmod after estrus+ .

Also,not important, is there a way (for me) to disable lactacid being fed when using either living or parasitic armors (that doesn't involve scripting)? Or even better to limit it to a certain amount, like a max 5?

Thanks in advance and sorry if any of this has been asked again. Read the comments after the latest version was released and didn't find any mention of this...

January 12, 2017

Is there a way I can make an npc a milkmaid with a spell or console command? I'm having some problems with Serana.

add the MME Milk a friend spell from the Milk Mod MCM menu. and cast it on an npc.

It just tells me that the target is not a milk maid/has no milk. I need to turn Serana into a milkmaid first. But she doesn't want to use the milking machines and I can't get the dialogue options to show up, though I am using an older version of the mod. I tried adding her to the milkmaid faction via the console but it still says target is not a milk maid/has no milk.

The problem could be my old version of the mod. The mod breaks when I update to a new version on my existing save. So I've been sticking with the old version that I have since I've had no problems except for this one with making Serana a milk maid.

Basically I just want to know If I can manually apply some effect to her so that she is registered as a milk maid since I can't get it to work via the other options?

No, not the "Milk-A-Friend" spell, but the "Make Milk Maid" spell. Make sure you have enough slots, of course. I just slide mine to the max mastery level of 40 (gives you 20 slots). Then cast "Make a Milk Maid" spell onto Serana, you should be good. I know it works, I've done it.

And yes, if you cast "Milk a Friend" and they NPC isn't a milk maid, you will get the stated error message.

*Ed86* · January 12, 2017

Having a small issue with getting the estrus animations to kick in. Been using your mod for years without any serious issues, so not really certain what i am doing differently this time.To clarify...

I updated both milkmod and EC+ to the latest versions. Started a new game. Registered a cuirass as parasitic in the milkmod armor section. When the time comes, the initial "explosion" from Estrus happens, milking starts, lactacid is being fed, in other words everything works ok except the animations. Estrus+ works fine, animations wise, so not really sure what i could be doing wrong. Does the load order of those 2 mods matter? I usually put milkmod after estrus+ .

Also,not important, is there a way (for me) to disable lactacid being fed when using either living or parasitic armors (that doesn't involve scripting)? Or even better to limit it to a certain amount, like a max 5?

Thanks in advance and sorry if any of this has been asked again. Read the comments after the latest version was released and didn't find any mention of this...

well..... your clarification failed......animations are a part of EC+

no,only editing scripts, i think you can limit it by enabling level limits

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