New Dragon age:Inquesition meh...(7th oct-2014 release)

[winny257]

So, whinny, if I understood you correctly, Modding for DA will be much easier? Are they already modders who can do modding for DA? I hope that Bioware will improve elf's faces. They were very ugly in DA2.

 

forming you your opinion about the racial development, I was amazed.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JzSMAfrXGs

 

I think bioware has learned from its errors.

[winny257]

 

 

if you mention ever skyrim, "compare" skyrim, with, morrowind!

If you got the idea that I consider Skyrim superior to Dragon Age, then you're wrong, because I don't think much of Skyrim either. The game is shallow, boring and does absolutely nothing right. Morrowind, on the other hand, despite all the flaws, was a great game to explore and collect stuff. In Oblivion/Skyrim level scaling and the lack of unique loot kills the fun, which leaves godawful writing and linear fedex quests.

 

 

just right, Morrowind was much more better than skyrim.

[germanicus]

Thanks for the video winny.

[ElectricSheep]

 

 

I think bioware has learned from its errors.

We'll see. But so far what I see does not impress me at all.

[winny257]

 

 

 

I think bioware has learned from its errors.

We'll see. But so far what I see does not impress me at all.

 

 

here's another video, if that does not convince you, then convinced you nothing "more".

I would say skyrim has in your soul "eaten".

 

[ElectricSheep]

A gameplay trailer that barely shows any gameplay. I suppose that a bunch of pre-rendered scenes and some flashy graphics should bend my knees. Well, they didn't.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKeEsG6mmHg

Same old shit.

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Some like it some don't argue about what's great or whats bad also waste of time.

 

I liked DA:O alot i just dunno why but i just did.

 

Skyrim i like but not alot only becouse of mods it became for me a great game.

 

Both cannot(yes for me) not stand even in the shadow of Morrowind still on of my best experience with a RPG game.

 

But thats my taste i love some and some I don't.

 

Dragensang series loved it.

 

Divinity 2 awesome.

 

The Witcher serie love it(VERY HIGH hopes for The Witcher 3).

 

I think The Witcher 3 will blow DA:I to budget section fast.

 

I got many classics also i place higher then skyrim or DA.

 

But it all comes down what you personally like i never let myself be influenced by masses what they like.

 

l like gothic series it was not bad but gothic 2 was so annoying with bugs and even Gothic 3 took years before fanbase came with decent patch.

 

Vampire masquerade bloodlines awesome.

 

As long you have fun thats what matters.

 

I play mostly RPG'S becouse im a RPG fan but some just don't cut it for me.

 

Still on fence with DA:I i don't think they pull it off so i forget DA:Oi very doub that, but future will tell if im right or wrong.

 

Becouse i did not play DA2(only demo for short time) im not remotely familiar with video you show here for it seems a complete different game and lore comepare to DA:O.

[medic975]

DA2 was a bad idea, mechanics wise, the story had me though and I thought was excellent. And for me that's the driving force behind me playing these games. I'll forgive a lot for story. That being said, Origins was amazing and I waited so long for it and it didn't let me down. I do not like EA having anything to do with the gaming studios I love. Inquisition looks amazing and it appears that it might be bigger scope wise than even origins. But I'm still shell shocked by ME3. Which to be fair 99% of that game was amazing on the edge of my seat ME goodness. It's just the fucking technicolor finale and the resulting response that pissed me off. Their redo helped slightly, but honestly not enough to completely dissipate my rancor over that debacle. 

[ElectricSheep]

99% of ME3 was amazing? Umm, no. Basically the whole game was a letdown. It had some good sides, but certainly not enough to redeem the whole game.

 

I dunno if DA2 was all that good story wise, even on paper, but it certainly was something newer than "the chosen one saves the world" (small step for players, huge for Bioware).

 

 

geeez how many threads are going to be started just to piss and moan about games old and new, why not just put it all in one thread...the pissing and moaning thread. a lot of clutter could be condensed.

Also, let's make a thread about pissing and moaning about pissing and moaning.

[winny257]

99% of ME3 was amazing? Umm, no. Basically the whole game was a letdown. It had some good sides, but certainly not enough to redeem the whole game.

 

I dunno if DA2 was all that good story wise, even on paper, but it certainly was something newer than "the chosen one saves the world" (small step for players, huge for Bioware).

 

 

geeez how many threads are going to be started just to piss and moan about games old and new, why not just put it all in one thread...the pissing and moaning thread. a lot of clutter could be condensed.

Also, let's make a thread about pissing and moaning about pissing and moaning.

 

it would be boring without pissing and moan, it would not take long and the moderators would have close LL, from lack of visitors.

[van_gelis]

The only thing i am sure about DA:I is that i am not going to pre-order it like i did with all past bioware games blindly .Plus I want to read reviews ,metascore,see angry joe videos and then maybe just maybe.

[germanicus]

There are different tastes for cars, women, games, and everything. My son used to play all Batman games. Except for the graphic, the whole game is so stupid to me. Lot's jumping, glidings, and similar things just as in Lara Croft game and Assassin creed. He is thrilled with that games. Me, hate them and consider them as a waste of money. But But! People loves them just as me and other loves DAO and expansions. But I never hurt my son's feelings. He likes them a lot and all I said to him that his type of the games aren't for me. I didn't called them stupid, brainwashing and no good games, although it is my opinion of them. When Oblivion came out I play it for 5 years. Then I discovered DA and fall in love. It is so simply as this:

 

My friend winny like large boobies and wide asses in females. Right winny? Me, I like them (almost) anorexic. Does that means that my type of the girls are for junk? Or his? No! Matter of taste. It is a waste of the time, battling about this. But we are all alike - no ones likes to hear that somebody else is "spitting" on the things he likes. So, let's be constructive and share more of our likes then dislikes.

 

Me, I rise my both thumbs for DA3

Hugs to all and peace brothers.

 

Apologize in advance for limited and partially not understandable English.

[winny257]

There are different tastes for cars, women, games, and everything. My son used to play all Batman games. Except for the graphic, the whole game is so stupid to me. Lot's jumping, glidings, and similar things just as in Lara Croft game and Assassin creed. He is thrilled with that games. Me, hate them and consider them as a waste of money. But But! People loves them just as me and other loves DAO and expansions. But I never hurt my son's feelings. He likes them a lot and all I said to him that his type of the games aren't for me. I didn't called them stupid, brainwashing and no good games, although it is my opinion of them. When Oblivion came out I play it for 5 years. Then I discovered DA and fall in love. It is so simply as this:

 

My friend winny like large boobies and wide asses in females. Right winny? Me, I like them (almost) anorexic. Does that means that my type of the girls are for junk? Or his? No! Matter of taste. It is a waste of the time, battling about this. But we are all alike - no ones likes to hear that somebody else is "spitting" on the things he likes. So, let's be constructive and share more of our likes then dislikes.

 

Me, I rise my both thumbs for DA3

Hugs to all and peace brothers.

 

Apologize in advance for limited and partially not understandable English.

 

I love you, that was beer number three.

what would it be, if we were all the same, all love the same woman (O man poor other women), we love all the same game (O man poor other developers), we all love the same country (O man rejoice the animals have as much free country area).

every human being has his own taste and everyone should be enjoying life. No one has the right to complain about about other live show.

for me it is quite clear, I have never come across a game like "dragon age inquisition" happy and I can not wait to hold you in my hands. peace.

 

german

ich liebe dich , das war bier nummer drei .

was wäre das , wir wären alle gleich , alle lieben die gleiche frau ( O mann die armen anderen frauen ) , wir lieben alle das gleiche spiel ( O mann die armen anderen entwickler ) , wir lieben alle das gleiche land ( O mann freun sich die tiere über so viel freie landesfläche ) .

jeder mensch hat seinen eigenen geschmack und jeder sollte sein leben genießen . niemand hat das recht über andere lebensweisen zu meckern .

für mich steht eindeutig fest , ich habe mich noch nie über ein spiel wie "dragon age inquisition" gefreut und ich kann es kaum erwarten in meinen händen zu halten . frieden .

 

[ElectricSheep]

But let's disconnect tastes from simple truths. If you like a game for certain aspects of it - graphics/art direction, setting, characters, gameplay, whatever - which I, on the other hand, may find unappealing, then sure it's a matter of different preferences. But if we talk in terms of sheer quality and content a game offers, then taste has nothing to do with it. Both ME3 and DA2, for example, are terribly underdeveloped games in many ways inferior to their predecessors. I can easily prove it by confronting facts with facts (like side quests in ME3 vs side quests in ME2), and the fact that you liked them games REGARDLESS has nothing to do with it.That a group of ppl likes something doesn't make it good; it's like with Uwe Boll's movies: poorly acted, poorly written, poorly directed - despite that somebody may enjoy watching them. You can pick any aspect of these movies, then discuss them, confront with what other movies have to offer and draw conclusions.

 

Not everything is subjective and not everything is a matter of taste.

[germanicus]

 

There are different tastes for cars, women, games, and everything. My son used to play all Batman games. Except for the graphic, the whole game is so stupid to me. Lot's jumping, glidings, and similar things just as in Lara Croft game and Assassin creed. He is thrilled with that games. Me, hate them and consider them as a waste of money. But But! People loves them just as me and other loves DAO and expansions. But I never hurt my son's feelings. He likes them a lot and all I said to him that his type of the games aren't for me. I didn't called them stupid, brainwashing and no good games, although it is my opinion of them. When Oblivion came out I play it for 5 years. Then I discovered DA and fall in love. It is so simply as this:

 

My friend winny like large boobies and wide asses in females. Right winny? Me, I like them (almost) anorexic. Does that means that my type of the girls are for junk? Or his? No! Matter of taste. It is a waste of the time, battling about this. But we are all alike - no ones likes to hear that somebody else is "spitting" on the things he likes. So, let's be constructive and share more of our likes then dislikes.

 

Me, I rise my both thumbs for DA3

Hugs to all and peace brothers.

 

Apologize in advance for limited and partially not understandable English.

 

I love you, that was beer number three.

what would it be, if we were all the same, all love the same woman (O man poor other women), we love all the same game (O man poor other developers), we all love the same country (O man rejoice the animals have as much free country area).

every human being has his own taste and everyone should be enjoying life. No one has the right to complain about about other live show.

for me it is quite clear, I have never come across a game like "dragon age inquisition" happy and I can not wait to hold you in my hands. peace.

 

german

ich liebe dich , das war bier nummer drei .

was wäre das , wir wären alle gleich , alle lieben die gleiche frau ( O mann die armen anderen frauen ) , wir lieben alle das gleiche spiel ( O mann die armen anderen entwickler ) , wir lieben alle das gleiche land ( O mann freun sich die tiere über so viel freie landesfläche ) .

jeder mensch hat seinen eigenen geschmack und jeder sollte sein leben genießen . niemand hat das recht über andere lebensweisen zu meckern .

für mich steht eindeutig fest , ich habe mich noch nie über ein spiel wie "dragon age inquisition" gefreut und ich kann es kaum erwarten in meinen händen zu halten . frieden .

 

 

 

Lol winny. Yes, beer number 3, and it must be a German beer.

 

But let's disconnect tastes from simple truths. If you like a game for a certain aspects of it - graphics/art direction, setting, characters, gameplay, whatever - which I, on the other hand, may find unappealing, then sure it's a matter of different preferences. But if we talk in terms of sheer quality and content a game offers, then taste has nothing to do with it. Both ME3 and DA2, for example, are terribly underdeveloped games in many ways inferior to their predecessors. I can easily prove it by confronting facts with facts (like side quests in ME3 vs side quests in ME2), and the fact that you liked them games REGARDLESS has nothing to do with it.That a group of ppl likes something doesn't make it good; it's like with Uwe Boll's movies: poorly acted, poorly written, poorly directed - despite that somebody may enjoy watching them. You can pick any aspect of these movies, then discuss them, confront with what other movies have to offer and draw conclusions.

 

Not everything is subjective and not everything is a matter of taste.

 

there are the facts, that's true, but all people are subjective to their likes and dislikes. Sometimes some games are more unfinished products and can lead you to disappointment, especially if you love the previous edition of that game. Lets take a ME 3 for example. For me, the way of investigating the planets was very stupid in M2. Even worst in M3. Does it mean that that game is not good? I wouldn't say so. I would develop planet's investigations more efficient and fun and constructive if I would know how, but game developers had another point of view. ME 3's end disappointed millions of people, but nobody said that that game is bad. I would say that some game is not made well if it will crush constantly, have glitches, freeze, in not playable at all and out of any logic. If DA was a bad game, Bioware wouldn't gave so much fans and followers. I'm talking about millions.

 

Facts or not facts, they are still submitted to our subjective likes or dislikes, regardless of how hard we are fighting to admit that.

[ElectricSheep]

Lets take a ME 3 for example. For me, the way of investigating the planets was very stupid in M2. Even worst in M3. Does it mean that that game is not good?

No, but combined with all the other flaws: side quests, journal, choices that didn't matter, retcons, poor writing, only one hub world, no vehicle, awkward final mission (basically a horde mode), inferior graphics and visuals, inferior animations, inferior dialogues; overall uninspiring, obviously rushed out nature - these are the reasons, FACTS, that made the game not good. Hence the amount of low ratings.

[germanicus]

OK, now we are running in the circle. No matter what, we'll disagree about this point of mine: all of that you listed is submissive to our likes and dislikes. So, Let's end right here, because it doesn't make any sense to go on. You have strong arguments,I have strong arguments. No one wins. That is how I see. So, let's be friends instead of battling no winner's battle.

 

By the way, I like your avatar's ass. It constantly tried to de concentrate me but unsuccessfully.

[medic975]

lol Uwe Boll is a bit harsh. I personally enjoyed 99% of ME3 but I can see where others did not. Tangent, was it WoW who pulled their movie rights offer when Uwe Boll looked like he was going to pick up the directing of that movie?

 

I will say this too, DA Origins and the Bethesda Offerings, Oblivion, FO3, FONV, and Skyrim are just about the only games I play over and over again and DA origins is especially noteworthy because the modding on that is so limited.

[ElectricSheep]

Dunno about WoW, but I heard about Hideo Kojima refusal when Boll wanted to direct a MGS movie.

 

I don't consider DA:O a bad game, it's just that I played far better RPGs that this one. I beat it once and never felt the need to play it again.

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The only thing i am sure about DA:I is that i am not going to pre-order it like i did with all past bioware games blindly .Plus I want to read reviews ,metascore,see angry joe videos and then maybe just maybe.

 

Bioware is not the bioware we know from baldur's gate or even DA:O the original bioware founders are gone and seems whole dev team is new.

 

Prolly fault of EA.

[XJ347]

 

there are the facts, that's true, but all people are subjective to their likes and dislikes. Sometimes some games are more unfinished products and can lead you to disappointment, especially if you love the previous edition of that game. Lets take a ME 3 for example. For me, the way of investigating the planets was very stupid in M2. Even worst in M3. Does it mean that that game is not good? I wouldn't say so. I would develop planet's investigations more efficient and fun and constructive if I would know how, but game developers had another point of view. ME 3's end disappointed millions of people, but nobody said that that game is bad. I would say that some game is not made well if it will crush constantly, have glitches, freeze, in not playable at all and out of any logic. If DA was a bad game, Bioware wouldn't gave so much fans and followers. I'm talking about millions.

 

Facts or not facts, they are still submitted to our subjective likes or dislikes, regardless of how hard we are fighting to admit that.

 

 

I claim that ME3 is bad.

 

The ending was HORRIBLE but there were problems with it ALL over... Why cant I party with Miranda or my other friends? Why is there auto dialogue? Why are quests done by eavesdropping? Why is there a space ninja? Why is shepard depressed after Thesa (totally out of character)? Why does Paragon and Renegade matter so little? Why less exploration? Why only one hub world? Why... Why... Why...

 

Sorry ME3 was bad, even if it had a good ending... Which it sure didn't!

 

DA2 was bad for similar reasons to why ME3 is bad. There are many small thigns that add up to fail, including a bad ending! The only saving grace is the character conversations are amazing! Better than DA:O for sure!

[germanicus]

XJ347 - all you said about the ME3 game is true. The game has many "holes". But still, I wouldn't call it bad, rather unfinished or rushed. One thing people always forget - there is no perfectly made game. First of all because it can't satisfied everyone's expectations and desires, and second, we all have different likes and dislikes.

[winny257]

ME3, fallout, fallout new vegas, I've never played it for me no roleplaying! in my eyes are the ill-made shooter.

for me a role-play must involve a huge world, it must enjoy to search, explore and fight with "a sword or a bow." not with "guns" and "Machine guns"!

[ElectricSheep]

But still, I wouldn't call it bad, rather unfinished or rushed. 

In my book rushed out games tend to be bad due to the very reason they're unfinished. And no truism like "nothing is perfect" or "you can't please everyone" can justify ME3 faults, which are numerous and glaring.

[germanicus]

Glad to see this lovely but again Electricsheep. last several years, most of the new games are half products. It's the trend of games market - to be the first regardless what. But we still playing them. Aren't we?