Thinking of switching from UNP to CBBE. Questions.

[chajapa]

Questions. Hurdles to expect.

I started out with UNP, then UNPB, UNPB BBP, recently switched to 7Base. My Lunari Race has an option for CBBE. My Lunari Warriors also have that option. I can switch Eryniel Elf to CBBE.

 

Should I bother switching the entire base body system over to CBBE? 

 

I realize if I switch my Lunari Race, Warriors (followers) and Eryniel Elf over to CBBE, then I've got to find CBBE armor. 

 

There are SO MANY "flavors" of CBBE. Curvy, slim, whatever.... will ANY CBBE armor fit any CBBE body?

 

I have BodySlide, but to be honest, my attempts at actually using it are brutally humbling. I'm a retired IT guy and it makes me feel dumb!

 

Does CBBE have TBBP AND (possibly) the ability to expand the belly for pregnant mods? I'm not sure I'll use the pregnancy mod, but..... it's all about options. I would prefer NOT to be REQUIRED to go into BodySlide and modify every garment I want to wear. Is that where I'd be headed?

 

I'm looking for a default body that is somewhat exaggerated. Small waist, ROUND (as in spherical), perky boobs. (not saggy..... I know, but I don't care about immersion breaking) and hopefully one that will play nice with HDT.

 

Then there's CBBEv3 vs CBBEv2 and.... holy crap. This texture doesn't work with THAT version and..... I'm getting confused

 

Any help appreciated.

 

OH!  And I wouldn't mind the more realistic genitalia that are available, and pubic hair might be a nice option, but .... I want it to be easy

I'm spending more time modding, breaking, and fixing my game than I am playing it.

 

Thanks!

 

[Benmc20]

Questions. Hurdles to expect.

I started out with UNP, then UNPB, UNPB BBP, recently switched to 7Base. My Lunari Race has an option for CBBE. My Lunari Warriors also have that option. I can switch Eryniel Elf to CBBE.

 

Should I bother switching the entire base body system over to CBBE? 

 

I realize if I switch my Lunari Race, Warriors (followers) and Eryniel Elf over to CBBE, then I've got to find CBBE armor. 

 

There are SO MANY "flavors" of CBBE. Curvy, slim, whatever.... will ANY CBBE armor fit any CBBE body?

 

I have BodySlide, but to be honest, my attempts at actually using it are brutally humbling. I'm a retired IT guy and it makes me feel dumb!

 

Does CBBE have TBBP AND (possibly) the ability to expand the belly for pregnant mods? I'm not sure I'll use the pregnancy mod, but..... it's all about options. I would prefer NOT to be REQUIRED to go into BodySlide and modify every garment I want to wear. Is that where I'd be headed?

 

I'm looking for a default body that is somewhat exaggerated. Small waist, ROUND (as in spherical), perky boobs. (not saggy..... I know, but I don't care about immersion breaking) and hopefully one that will play nice with HDT.

 

Then there's CBBEv3 vs CBBEv2 and.... holy crap. This texture doesn't work with THAT version and..... I'm getting confused

 

Any help appreciated.

 

OH!  And I wouldn't mind the more realistic genitalia that are available, and pubic hair might be a nice option, but .... I want it to be easy

I'm spending more time modding, breaking, and fixing my game than I am playing it.

 

Thanks!

 

Wow ... So many questions ...

 

I'm an user of CBBE V3.2 (the last).

 

- CBBE base body can be enabled for BBP (TBBP maybe ?)

- CBBE can be enabled for prengnancy, Bodyslide 2.0 is very useful for that. And PSB too.

- Texture ? SG Mature is really nice and works for all versions.

 

I personnaly use the CBBE with a weight of 0.4, 0.45, not above. It's curvy, but not exagerrated.And Bodyslide is a damn tool for sculpting your body .

[Ruskii420Sama]

Stick with sevenbase. Much more stuff coming out for it, CBBE is kinda falling behind in "new" armor/clothes. Also, sevenbase works with ALL unp textures, so you can have maximum customization with Textures. Also, If you are looking for a little smaller, try UNP topmodel, it is based on UNP slim, and 100 weight has huge tits based on the Sevenbase Bombshell mesh. It doesn't have as much armors/clothes, but im working on them as we speak. 

 

I use:

Sevenbase Bombshell BBP

Milkdrinker normal map

Real Girls Diffuse map

sporty sweaty specular map

XPMS

 

and

 

UNP Topmodel

Realgirls Normal+Diffuse

Sporty Sweaty specular

XPMS

 

Im working on a normal map based on Milkdrinker, it has the small outlines of a six pack, and Im going to make a nice realistic looking clitoris for it, because im jealous of Shockies normal map

[hryh23k9823u]

The hole point of CBBE in my opinion is bodyslide. It allows to create your custom body and not only that, to batch build all your armors (if they're bodyslide enabled). It's visual, you tweak a slider and you see the results immediately... Then you click build (or build group for a set), and done... Also you can save your presets and stuff. If you dont use bodyslide then stick with UNP family I'd say because although they're not customizable, they have a very good looking shape.

 

As for CBBE falling behind in armors, I'd say on the contrary. Since Bodyslide 2 anyone can convert armors with a couple of clicks and since then there's a shitload of conversions made by the entire community, so I'd say CBBE is still the main body in skyrim.

[Benmc20]

The hole point of CBBE in my opinion is bodyslide. It allows to create your custom body and not only that, to batch build all your armors (if they're bodyslide enabled). It's visual, you tweak a slider and you see the results immediately... Then you click build (or build group for a set), and done... Also you can save your presets and stuff. If you dont use bodyslide then stick with UNP family I'd say because although they're not customizable, they have a very good looking shape.

 

As for CBBE falling behind in armors, I'd say on the contrary. Since Bodyslide 2 anyone can convert armors with a couple of clicks and since then there's a shitload of conversions made by the entire community, so I'd say CBBE is still the main body in skyrim.

 

And more importantly : the first to be disponible (UNP was arrived later)

[dobmc]

With Bodyslide for CBBE (dunno if its unique to CBBE since Bodyslide 2) you can create pretty much any kind of body to your liking. So you're not really limited of the character you create. Big plus for CBBE there.

So if you find armors/clothes that support Bodyslide, that's a lucky draw. Other than that I usually go for UNP variant armors/clothes.

 

Dunno about your taste, however I prefer Sevenbase bodies on non-skimpy armors. Simply because when characters are butt naked, the boobs look horribly silicon when using sevenbase bodies. Dem thighs though, are worth it.

 

CBBEv2 textures are pretty old, not sure if they still exist even now. But if they do, there's probably a CBBEv3 of it.

 

Also I recommend you to slowly adjust to CBBE. Subtle changes are better, especially if you want to be flexible.

[chajapa]

So let's say I JUST try this by changing my Lunari Race character to CBBE. Can I use ANY CBBE armor on her or do I HAVE to pull an existing CBBE armor into BodySlide to make it fit her?

 

And I am then assuming I'd have to use unique armors. Not replacement vanilla stuff because all my vanilla NPCs would still be on 7Base (UNP)

 

thanks

 

 

 

[Benmc20]

You can use any CBBE armor on her. You don't have to adapt any standard CBBE armor for her, don't worry .

[Veladarius]

Using armors made for different CBBE body types will change the shape of the body just as using different UNP based bodies will. There are a number of pregnant capable armor sets for CBBE and covers most of the vanilla armors. I have not used the new Bodyslide but as I understand you can change any armor with it as well as convert armors for other body types as well.

[chajapa]

So..... and as I may have already stated, my first attempts with BodySlide/Outfit Studio were pretty bad. I was trying to make a UNP retextured armor conform to an HDT body I had created in Bodyslide.... if I take a CBBE armor.... one that's ALREADY made for CBBE... and just want to tweak it to conform to a CBBE body (which I may have modified a little in BodySlide) is that a pretty trivial endeavor? 

 

I would LOVE to be able to pull in my CBBE body as a reference and make an armor conform to my presets. Like... bring in the body (with presets), bring in the armor, and just say "fit this body" (conform to presets?)

I didn't have real good luck doing that with a unp-to-HDT Body and I tried several times. Apparently I'm terrible at using the brush tool to "add volume" to a mesh. Came out looking lumpy

 

[hryh23k9823u]

I think we're mixing here Bodyslide (2) with Outfit Studio, that it's a diferent tool released and packed along with bodyslide. Bodyslide is a simply customization tool. It's like the ingame 'showracemenu', but instead of bones, directly makes changes in the mesh, allowing much more customization at really 0 technical knowledge and cero learning curve (almost).

 

Outfit Studio is a new addon for Bodyslie, with a little but pretty basic learnig curve, to convert outfits between bodytypes, and outfit into slidersets usable in bodyslide. it's basically a meta-tool for armors not working in bodyslide to work.

 

First, if you wanna go CBBE, check the already extensive conversion armors for bodyslide. Including several vanilla packs, from regular to several skimpy version, etc. etc., plus lots of standalone armors and set (being one of the most prominents the TERA armor pack for bodyslide).

 

Second, forget about the body mesh you've created. The important think here is your preset, that contains the necessary information (basically, what have you done with the sliders) in order to reproduce that mesh again as many times as you want, aaand, to reproduce it in the bodyslide-ready armors (just navigate in bodyslide through the groups and you'll see what armors currently you have). If there's an armor not already converted into bodyslide format (take a look here in the adult sections, there are several topics of people converting and taking request, or check the nexus, etc. etc), THEN is when you open up Outfit Studio. But not adapt the ouftit you want to the body mesh you've created. That would be a one shot effort and a waste. Instead, you want to convert that outfit/armor into a sliderset. Then it will appear in Bodyslide for you to customize or applying your preset.

 

The presets are also important, cause you can create variances. For example there's your preset for your basic nude body you like, like 'MyBody', then diferent variances you can make for diferent pushup/cleavage effects, etc, by moving the several breast sliders previewing an armor till you get a desired result, you save it as another preset that you can name 'MyBodyPushUp', etc. etc. and then you always can hand it when building any armor (or a batch build of several at the same time).

 

 

[Jeffrey Lane]

Any videos explaining the bodyslide/outfit tools?  they may just be a bit easier to understand and follow then typed words.

[hryh23k9823u]

I don't think there are videos for bodyslide, cause it a very simple tool.

There is a video tutorial converting a cloth from vanilla to cbbe with Outfit Studio:

[chajapa]

OK, well it turns out I can have followers from Lunari Warriors be either CBBE or 7B (UNP). And of the 6 followers I can mix them so one is 7B and one is CBBE. Kinda cool. 

ANYWAYS.... I took a CBBE daedric armor replacement and got it to fit a CBBE custom body. It's actually the HDT Body from blabba. 

 

So this was a simple one. Taking an armor already converted for CBBE and making it fit the body. Perfect. Simple. BUT.... it's a daedric replacer so at some point when I run into an NPC wearing daedric, it's gonna screw up. (Do NPCs wear Daedric later in the game? Or is it just something that can be crafted?)

 

It also means my 7B characters can't wear it as it appears to pull in some of the CBBE textures for the body on a UNP body and..... looks pretty bad.

First try at it, I made the armor and it didn't move. No BBP. I had forgotten to add the "selected weights". Redid it and it WORKS!. Yeah I know this is simple simple for the guys that do conversions all the time, but it's a big victory for a n00b.

 

And as far as realism, I guess I'm not as concerned with getting a REALISTIC female body as I am with getting one whose ass I don't mind looking at for extended periods of time  

[crusher]

The next version of BS2/Outfit Studios may have a very high polycount mesh to work with. This potentially makes all other body mesh options redundant. Particularly as you'll be able to add morph sliders anywhere you want, to create any shape you want, with full high-vertex support. Likewise all Armor via BS2/OS is compatible. And as it will likely have all the weight painting included, to support all the pregnancy, butt, boobs, HDT etc. One-stop-shopping is the way to go.

 

I'd wait for the next version of BS/OS, then switch.

[Wristyearth]

Im a die-hard CBBE user.

Yes its TBBP compstable (and BBB compatable if you play your cards right)

Bodyslide can make any body shape.

Caliente and killerkeo's CBBE armors will fit most bodies but not all UNLESS you learn to use bodyslide xP.

Lastly in bodyslide you can use a pregnancy slider if you download CB++.

There are a TON of cool CBBE armors and its almost universally friendly with ANY mod save for other body mods.

[Wristyearth]

Im a die-hard CBBE user.

Yes its TBBP compstable (and BBB compatable if you play your cards right)

Bodyslide can make any body shape.

Caliente and killerkeo's CBBE armors will fit most bodies but not all UNLESS you learn to use bodyslide xP.

Lastly in bodyslide you can use a pregnancy slider if you download CB++.

There are a TON of cool CBBE armors and its almost universally friendly with ANY mod save for other body mods.

[JaFinmongrab]

CBBE is great for customizing your ideal body shape.

 

A lot of traditionally UNP armors/clothing have recently been converted to CBBE using the new Bodyslide Outfit Studio tool with many more coming down the pike, BBP and TBBP enabled.

 

SG Mature does, indeed, make for a nice texture for CBBE.

 

 

That being said, if you're used to using UNP, I wouldn't convert to CBBE just to accommodate one or two specific mods.

 

But if you ever get tired of limited body shapes and sizes, CBBE can be a very liberating experience. You may find yourself spending more time experimenting with Bodyslide than actual in-game time at first but once you get a few custom creations in the game, you may find the process quite addicting.

[Redflyingmonkey]

Get the bodychange mod on the nexus dude ! Allows in game body change, which means no more asking "which body do I use", you can litteraly choose them all and change between them when you get bored with this one or that one. Honestly this makes all the issues about body picking pointless.

[Coopervane]

The hole point of CBBE in my opinion is bodyslide.

 

It would be, but people are grossly overselling it's capabillities.

 

I tried to make the switch a while back, i was told "it has a UNP preset, you can just use that and it's super easy!", and it might have been, had it actually worked. It did not.

 

 

There is a very real limit to how far you can stray from the CBBE Curvy shape before Bodyslide can nolonger reliably convert armors to your new bodyshape. The tool probably works just fine for users who are overall happy with the CBBE body and just want to make some minor tweaks, but the moment you try to make a bodyshape that is noticably different, all bets are off on it actually working (having a new bodyshape you like is of no value if you can't reliably generate armors for it).

 

 

As a person who does not like the CBBE Curvy body, no, Bodyslide is not the solution. Maybe someday if they can make it work reliably it could be, but that day is not today.

[GodSmack]

You dont have to choose between one or the other, there is a mod that allows you to change your body type in game i think its called body change, i used it back then when i wanted to have both, i still use it now but not as much since i got seveNbase now.

[Emberheart]

CBBE makes my armours funky, it is why I went to UNP again. For some reason all CBBE armours ended up having tiny pot-bellies.

[Deedlit]

use mod organizer, im using cbbe,topmodel and dreamgirl, just need 1 click and use fnis and voila im at game with new body.