Monsto Brukes Posted May 19, 2014 Posted May 19, 2014 everyone has gone off in the wrong direction I think, and there hasn't been a true troubleshooting Q&A. Here's what I've pieced together as the problem that ZoD is having. Correct me if I'm wrong ok? DLs file cleanly (meaning no errors or apparent problems) Unzips file cleanly Places file cleanly when skyrim runs, skse runs. but the plugin (dll) doesn't load as shown in the log file. other plugins load cleanly. my 1st question for you is this... and you're gonna think "what the fuck difference does that make, monsto?" Is this your computer? Did you buy it with your money, or is it some sort of family computer that everyone uses or maybe a hand me down that someone else used? Yes, it's a relevant question.
zoneofdarkness Posted May 19, 2014 Author Posted May 19, 2014 This is purely my computer. I got it back in 2011. It's a laptop. HP Pavilion, dv7-6135dx. Not a gaming PC, but has a dedicated graphics card and plays Skyrim just fine. There are other issues with the .dll file as well. I can open up and poke around other .dll files with programs such as winrar and 7zip, but I always get "access denied" when trying to do the same with the HDT .dll. I cannot manually drag the HDT .dll file out of the .zip in to a folder, instead having to use the "extract" button in 7zip. I can install it with the Nexus Mod Manager, but I cannot uninstall it with NMM, and have to delete the .dll manually. I don't know why some methods work and all others don't. I cannot copy the .dll once it is on my hard drive, but I can move it around my folders. All-in-all, very weird behavior.
Monsto Brukes Posted May 20, 2014 Posted May 20, 2014 Do this: Go install this: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896653.aspx It will want you to reboot. do it. after reboot, log in and let it sit for a couple minutes (to finish booting) try to do something you normally cannot do with the file. Does it work?
zoneofdarkness Posted May 20, 2014 Author Posted May 20, 2014 Still restricted. I'm not sure how to read process explorer either, though when I checked the DLL tab I didn't find anything. I don't know if this changes anything, but Unlocker can't find any locking handles.
Monsto Brukes Posted May 20, 2014 Posted May 20, 2014 alright. you did reboot? right? in process exxplorer . . . Find menu > Find Handle or DLL > type it in. Any results? Are you running enb? if so, what happens with the d3d9.dll? have you tried windows safe mode?
zoneofdarkness Posted May 20, 2014 Author Posted May 20, 2014 "0 matching items." I don't use an enb. Like I said, I have a pretty mid-range laptop so using an ENB would probably melt it. If it's to the point where I have to boot up the computer in safe mode whenever I want to have waving hair, flowing clothes and jiggly breasts in skyrim, then maybe I shouldn't bother with the hassle. :/
Monsto Brukes Posted May 20, 2014 Posted May 20, 2014 nono I didn't mean playing the game in safe mode, I meant affecting the file in safe mode. At this point I couldn't give much of a shit less about the game, i'm just trying to figure out what the hell is actually going on. that "0 matching items" means, without a doubt, that nothing is hooking the dll. IOW, it's not opened. As a matter of fact, if skyrim won't run it, that means skyrim isn't hooking it either... it's unable to. I suspect that there's a system policy set. New things: What other SKSE plugins are you running? Any? Try setting up enb. Just for testing.
Pork Type Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 Shot in the dark here, but have you considered mapping your c:\games\ directory to another drive letter in order to trick UAC? I see that you already have your games installed outside of C:\Program Files. That's good. I keep mine on an entirely separate drive from the boot drive, but I use a desktop, not a laptop. It's totally possible to map a folder to a virtual drive letter. Whether or not it will dupe UAC in Windows 7, I don't know. But it sounds like UAC is being a royal bitch to you for some reason.
zoneofdarkness Posted May 21, 2014 Author Posted May 21, 2014 I have a few other skse plugins. chargen, firstpersonplugin, and at one point I had a console search aid plugin as well, and all of them work fine. You can find a log for skse earlier in the thread. Hm. I dunno, I'll look in to safe booting at some point soon. Can't at the moment.
pclp2014 Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 What happens when you double-click the DLL? And what happens when you double click a different DLL? Normally, only file-extensions an application be allocated, but ...
zoneofdarkness Posted May 30, 2014 Author Posted May 30, 2014 Sorry I've been away. Double clicking the HDT .dll pops up the message "access denied." Double clicking any other .dll opens it with whatever I have as the default program to poke around them with, in this case 7zip.
b00marrows Posted May 30, 2014 Posted May 30, 2014 Double clicking the HDT .dll pops up the message "access denied." Double clicking any other .dll opens it with whatever I have as the default program to poke around them with, in this case 7zip. All that did was prove that it has been blocked by something, be that windows or your antivirus...possibly both.
zoneofdarkness Posted June 17, 2014 Author Posted June 17, 2014 I might have found the issue. Maybe. Despite uninstalling normally and also using the removal tool, there are remnants of AVG Antivirus that I can't seem to get rid of. The "scan with AVG" option is still available when right-clicking files, and AVG still appears in the "uninstall a program" window, despite not having any functions at all. Maybe something about AVG's leftovers is dicking with HDT. Er... In case I can't ever get this figured out, is there any way to customize HDT 7-22?
Monsto Brukes Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 I might have found the issue. Maybe. Despite uninstalling normally and also using the removal tool, there are remnants of AVG Antivirus that I can't seem to get rid of. The "scan with AVG" option is still available when right-clicking files, and AVG still appears in the "uninstall a program" window, despite not having any functions at all. Maybe something about AVG's leftovers is dicking with HDT. Er... In case I can't ever get this figured out, is there any way to customize HDT 7-22? Boot into safe mode without networking and uninstall it from there. You might also do a restore point back before you installed AVG. You might also also dig around in AVG and find where you can add exceptions and add the HDTPE dll.
zoneofdarkness Posted June 18, 2014 Author Posted June 18, 2014 Only pieces-parts of AVG are left behind. I might have to re-install the newest version over the old one, and THEN uninstall it. Do you think that would help anything?
b00marrows Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 Oh no you used avg.... you will need to use the removal program found HERE Download the correct one for your architecture and uninstall AVG.
zoneofdarkness Posted June 20, 2014 Author Posted June 20, 2014 Despite uninstalling normally and also using the removal tool, Tried it.
Spazicle12 Posted February 2, 2015 Posted February 2, 2015 http://www.thewindowsclub.com/take-ownership-windows-8 Try something like this....
ThePervert101 Posted August 11, 2020 Posted August 11, 2020 On 6/20/2014 at 1:16 AM, zoneofdarkness said: Tried it. Good news, it was not your computer or antivirus. Bad news, I still have no idea on how to fix it. I feel like I am shooting a gun blindfolded since I just got Skyrim SE and have no background in modding. Yet, my antivirus is definitely set to not scan that file so it is not the antivirus. My computer is pretty new too so its not your computer either. Anyway, if you found the solution (if you still play it) then tell me please.
zoneofdarkness Posted August 18, 2020 Author Posted August 18, 2020 Thanks, but it's been six years and I've already gone through that laptop and a desktop. The machine I'm using currently runs HDT perfectly fine. That said, I never did find out what the problem was so unfortunately I can't help you.
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