Can't Access HDT .DLL Files At All

[zoneofdarkness]

Hey there. I tried to find a solution to this problem on the HDT website some time back, but so far nothing has worked.

 

I run windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit)

 

For some reason, I'm unable to access any version of HDT after 7-22 with absolutely anything, SKSE included. Hell, I even have trouble extracting them without my PC blocking it. It doesn't matter how much I fiddle with the security settings. Running it in Administrator. Every result is the same: Access Denied.

 

Trying to load it up in Skyrim nets SKSE's log simply saying "HDTsoandso Not Loaded."

 

I heard it might be an OS issue. I'm not sure what it means. I know for a fact I'm not reinstalling Windows just to have some freeform jiggling in Skyrim, but I'd very much appreciate some other work-around. 7-22 is pretty bare-bones, no collision or addons. It also tends to jitter like crazy when moving around.

[TnTTnT]

If your problem are just unpacking, you can get 10-25 from my Mediafire folder here.

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/r1ejqqjl9fugn/HDT_10-25

[Uriel]

Any antivirus software on your system?

[pclp2014]

I have the same OS. Because it is not.

 

However, I run the skse_launcher with exclusive Admin rights.

The rights are actually inherited by tesv.exe etc.

 

I assume that SKSE is up to date and working.

[zoneofdarkness]

SKSE is up to date and working, yes. Everything has admin rights. Tried the mediafire download with no change in results.

[b00marrows]

possible fix:

 

re-download > right click on file > properties > unblock > apply > ok

 

now extract. and continue as usual...

 

[zoneofdarkness]

There doesn't seem to be an unblock option.

[b00marrows]

There doesn't seem to be an unblock option.

 

Now THAT is troubling, ether windows dosen't trust you enough to allow you to unblock it OR windows done goofed up.

 

you downloaded a .zip right? what archive program are you using to open it?

[zoneofdarkness]

I've tried a couple. 7zip. Winzip. Winrar.

 

I was thinking about installing unlocker and seeing if that works, but I hear all the latest versions come bundled with unavoidable adware.

[b00marrows]

than it's either:

OS administration / permission problems

Antivirus / firewall issues - like Uriel said

 

Try the "unlocker" program, I remember using something like that before.

[zoneofdarkness]

Oop, forgot to respond. >_<

Unlocker claims there's no locking handle on the file. The latest version still borks out on me. I should mention that versions 7-22 and below work fine, but none of the addons are compatible with it.... and it's maybe a bit too jiggly for my liking.

[zoneofdarkness]

I just thought of something. When unpacked, how big is the HDT .DLL? Mine swells up past 10MB. Could that have something to do with it?

[Trystanwolf]

my files is hdtPhyscisExtensions.dll created 10/25/2013 10.2mb. size on disk: 10.2 MB (10,715,136 bytes)

 

[TnTTnT]

I don't think compress/uncompress dll will have anything to do with accessiblity.

[zoneofdarkness]

Well this is just frustrating as all hell. There's no reason it shouldn't work. I have administrator permission. The steam folder is outside program files. Not that it matters since I can't even access the .dll to extract it by dragging it out of the zip folder. Makes me wonder if there's some registry or driver shenanigans going on.

 

Again, I can use 7-22. Is there anything anyone can think of that was changed between that version and later versions which would cause a problem like this?

[Uriel]

Any antivirus software on your system?

 

[b00marrows]

I don't think compress/uncompress dll will have anything to do with accessiblity.

 

ANY file can have accesability issues.

 

Well this is just frustrating as all hell. There's no reason it shouldn't work. I have administrator permission. The steam folder is outside program files. Not that it matters since I can't even access the .dll to extract it by dragging it out of the zip folder. Makes me wonder if there's some registry or driver shenanigans going on.

 

Again, I can use 7-22. Is there anything anyone can think of that was changed between that version and later versions which would cause a problem like this?

 

there is a reason, we just have not found it yet.

 

 

Any antivirus software on your system?

 

 

Also i found out that ANY OS above windows vista has the "unblock" thing, so if your re-downloaded files do not have this than windows/any antivirus programs do not trust you enough to let you use them properly.

[zoneofdarkness]

I use Microsoft Security Essentials and Malwarebytes. I've tried using it with both programs on and off, with no change.

 

EDIT: Tried using the "take ownership" shortcut, to no avail.

 

Here's what I can do with the .dll files currently without a permission error:

 

1: Extract from a .zip using 7zip's built in extract button. I cannot drag the files manually from the .zip.

 

2: Cut and paste or drag the file from one area of my PC to another. I cannot copy the file.

 

3: Delete the file.

 

4: View and change settings in the properties tab.

 

Everything else nets me the "you need permission" error, and asks me to try again.

[Uriel]

You cant just switch AV protection off. This does not help usually. You need to ignore the file in your AV's, place it in trusted list or something.

[zoneofdarkness]

I gave it a shot, but it didn't help.

[b00marrows]

Ill be honest with you "Microsoft Security Essentials" is garbage, i highly recommend removing it.

 

remove > re-download >re-try.

 

No intelligent antivirus would block a .dll file without giving you any sort of warning... that's why you have got none...

[Uriel]

I just did sum googlin, and found MSE awesome. Google is flooded with "i cant ... bacause MSE thinks it's a virus".

Look here:

[b00marrows]

 

I just did sum googlin, and found MSE awesome. Google is flooded with "i cant ... bacause MSE thinks it's a virus".

Look here:

 

Sometimes I hate being right... Sometimes... 

[zoneofdarkness]

Doesn't seem to have worked.

[pclp2014]

I use Microsoft Security Essentials and Malwarebytes. I've tried using it with both programs on and off, with no change.

 

EDIT: Tried using the "take ownership" shortcut, to no avail.

 

Here's what I can do with the .dll files currently without a permission error:

 

1: Extract from a .zip using 7zip's built in extract button. I cannot drag the files manually from the .zip.

 

2: Cut and paste or drag the file from one area of my PC to another. I cannot copy the file.

 

3: Delete the file.

 

4: View and change settings in the properties tab.

 

Everything else nets me the "you need permission" error, and asks me to try again.

 

This sounds a bit like after a 7zip problem.

If 7zip is installed correctly, have the right mouse button always the 7zip menu item.

In Folders, files and archives. Depending on what you click with the right mouse button, it's a different context menu.

Files in 7zip drag with the left mouse button.

 

May not be linked to the correct application on your OS zip file extension.

I would re-install 7zip - with Admin rights.