Sexual Harassment +

[riveth]

13 hours ago, Darkmind_mc said:

Oh, and I should mention that there is an advantage for it being the mayor who approaches you instead of the guard - If it's the mayor, he can't take any other actions until he's done.  If it's a guard, the conversation that the mayor and Piper are having just goes on anyway...

Ok, so I was thinking about making script that scans location change and register if it was visited before. It all turned out to be bit resource hreavy so I was thinking, why won't You just pick option in MCM to make harasser wait for player to be alone? 


 

[Franco Cozzo]

31 minutes ago, riveth said:

turns out idea I had is already implemented in SH, there is a cooldown slider after sex (from any mod), lol 

Personally I never had to reset aproaches, so I think this is just some niche problem I guess.

 

 

 

Yeah probably something busted in the way I play or some conflict somewhere. I think your version actually resets the encounters when the mod is enabled/disabled as well, or I somehow have one hotkey doing two actions, either way is good for me at the moment.

 

[deathmorph]

5 hours ago, riveth said:

under gerneral options pick cooldown after sex. This option allows SH aproaches after cooldown timer after any AAF scene (for example from Violate)

 

Ah, thanks for the tip. I'll set the cooldown for SH to be longer than that of Violate. Good point. Problem solved. Thanks for the suggestion. 🍻

[Darkmind_mc]

5 hours ago, riveth said:

Ok, so I was thinking about making script that scans location change and register if it was visited before. It all turned out to be bit resource hreavy so I was thinking, why won't You just pick option in MCM to make harasser wait for player to be alone? 
 

I have that set.  Never seems to do anything.  (Actually, in this case it's likely because the 'harasser approaching' fired *before* I got within range of Piper - they just couldn't get to me until the door opened.)

 

I'll try out the v5, see how it goes.

Edited April 14 by Darkmind_mc

[deathmorph]

19 hours ago, Franco Cozzo said:

"player.pushactoraway" oder "pushactoraway 14 1" einzugeben. pushactoraway "  or " pushactoraway 14 1 " in the console

 

failing that, 

 

player.moveto player sollte funktionieren; es lädt den Bereich neu und platziert den Spieler an seiner aktuellen/vorhandenen Position; außerdem löst es einen oft von Werkbänken. 

 

Unfortunately, no luck. After a short while, I'm running into the same problem again: the lady can no longer be moved. Drawing and holstering the weapon still works, though. And again at the speech "Sex for Money," during which the weapon was drawn.
Both suggested solutions proved unsuccessful.

 

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PS: Even using the command `player.moveto` to teleport to another NPC—who had entered the room to harass her—did indeed teleport the lady to that location, but she still remained unable to move. It was only the subsequent sex scene that resolved the blockage.

 

PPS: It is reproducible. It always occurs in the "Sex for Money" scene when the weapon is drawn in third-person view. Afterward, the lady gets stuck.

An idea?

Edited April 15 by deathmorph

[riveth]

5 hours ago, deathmorph said:

 

Unfortunately, no luck. After a short while, I'm running into the same problem again: the lady can no longer be moved. Drawing and holstering the weapon still works, though. And again at the speech "Sex for Money," during which the weapon was drawn.
Both suggested solutions proved unsuccessful.

 

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PS: Even using the command `player.moveto` to teleport to another NPC—who had entered the room to harass her—did indeed teleport the lady to that location, but she still remained unable to move. It was only the subsequent sex scene that resolved the blockage.

 

PPS: It is reproducible. It always occurs in the "Sex for Money" scene when the weapon is drawn in third-person view. Afterward, the lady gets stuck.

An idea?

Ttry replicate and type diel in console, post printscreen

[deathmorph]

5 hours ago, riveth said:

Ttry replicate and type diel in console, post printscreen

 

Here. Interaction initiated. Weapon drawn. Option selected. Harasser's response. Harasser walks away. Weapon can be holstered and drawn. Jumping works; crouching and turning do not. The lady is stuck.
The images show the chronological sequence and the console output.

 

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[jjocs]

Same happens to me. After a few seconds, you can jump, holster/unholster your weapon and move between 1st and 3rd person. 

The only thing I have found to work: once you can move holster your weapon and, in 3rd person view, look around and try to find an NPC/companion to talk to. Once dialog begins, I get unstuck. 

Because I'm using Just Business there's always an slave around me and that's been more than helpful to get me unstuck.

 

 

[riveth]

7 hours ago, deathmorph said:

 

Here. Interaction initiated. Weapon drawn. Option selected. Harasser's response. Harasser walks away. Weapon can be holstered and drawn. Jumping works; crouching and turning do not. The lady is stuck.
The images show the chronological sequence and the console output.

 

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I tried to replicate that problem and no issues on my setup

DIEL command on your printscreens shows that:
layer 5 - player movement is locked by quest human error 
layer 7 - freeze is caused by quest the sight

to get out of this lock simply type in console

RIEL 5 (number of locked layer you got when typed diel, those numbers may be diferent next time, so first diel, look for sus locked layers, then riel and that number)

then RIEL 7 if first one doesnt help

this problem doesnt apear to be releated with this mod

Edited April 15 by riveth

[riveth]

7 hours ago, jjocs said:

Same happens to me. After a few seconds, you can jump, holster/unholster your weapon and move between 1st and 3rd person. 

The only thing I have found to work: once you can move holster your weapon and, in 3rd person view, look around and try to find an NPC/companion to talk to. Once dialog begins, I get unstuck. 

Because I'm using Just Business there's always an slave around me and that's been more than helpful to get me unstuck.

 

 

same as in deadmorph situation. use diel and riel commands as described to get out of lock. If You type diel and it return something releated to SH, post printscreen and I will try to pin that problem.

 

[deathmorph]

1 hour ago, riveth said:

same as in deadmorph situation. use diel and riel commands as described to get out of lock. If You type diel and it return something releated to SH, post printscreen and I will try to pin that problem.

 

I’m going to try to identify exactly which quest is the culprit here - the one that’s going haywire - and then report back.
And, ideally, I’m hoping for a solution other than having to manually enter "diel" and "riel" commands into the console every single time. That's not an option for me from a gameplay perspective.
Because, in my view, it must be related to drawing the weapon; if I choose a different option in the conversation without a weapon, the scene goes through normally.

[riveth]

6 minutes ago, deathmorph said:

 

I’m going to try to identify exactly which quest is the culprit here - the one that’s going haywire - and then report back.
And, ideally, I’m hoping for a solution other than having to manually enter "diel" and "riel" commands into the console every single time. That's not an option for me from a gameplay perspective.
Because, in my view, it must be related to drawing the weapon; if I choose a different option in the conversation without a weapon, the scene goes through normally.

this happens only on nakesd/sex approach ?

 

[deathmorph]

2 hours ago, riveth said:

this happens only on nakesd/sex approach ?

 

Yes. And only upon approach with a weapon.

Edited April 15 by deathmorph

[deathmorph]

16 hours ago, riveth said:

DIEL command on your printscreens shows that:
layer 5 - player movement is locked by quest human error 
layer 7 - freeze is caused by quest the sight

to get out of this lock simply type in console

RIEL 5 (number of locked layer you got when typed diel, those numbers may be diferent next time, so first diel, look for sus locked layers, then riel and that number)

then RIEL 7 if first one doesnt help

 

Neither "riel 5" nor "riel 7" works. The lady remains stuck. I tested the situation - it's the same. With no weapon drawn, the scene plays through; with a weapon drawn, the lady gets stuck.

[riveth]

18 hours ago, deathmorph said:

 

Neither "riel 5" nor "riel 7" works. The lady remains stuck. I tested the situation - it's the same. With no weapon drawn, the scene plays through; with a weapon drawn, the lady gets stuck.

i think I have a lead. Could you start new game, exit vault, coc dcbank01, exit to dc, use SH MCM debug to force sex\naked approach and check if it still freeze player?

 

[deathmorph]

3 hours ago, riveth said:

i think I have a lead. Could you start new game, exit vault, coc dcbank01, exit to dc, use SH MCM debug to force sex\naked approach and check if it still freeze player?

 

 

Yes, I should be able to manage that this evening (CET).

[deathmorph]

10 hours ago, riveth said:

i think I have a lead. Could you start new game, exit vault, coc dcbank01, exit to dc, use SH MCM debug to force sex\naked approach and check if it still freeze player?

 

Here is the result. Unfortunately, the lady is still stuck.

 

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Edited April 17 by deathmorph

[riveth]

2 hours ago, deathmorph said:

 

Here is the result. Unfortunately, the lady is still stuck.

 

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darn it....

- what diel says?
- did you disable original SH in mod manager?

I cant replicate this problem on my setup and there is nothing different in this particullar scenario than for exmple in fan approach

[deathmorph]

27 minutes ago, riveth said:

darn it....

- what diel says?
- did you disable original SH in mod manager?

I cant replicate this problem on my setup and there is nothing different in this particullar scenario than for exmple in fan approach

 

"diel" doesn't throw an error message. The task was reset, or something along those lines. It seems to work, but it has no effect on my problem. I can provide the exact wording if you'd like. The task itself does not appear to be the reason for getting stuck.

 

And I have uninstalled the original SH.

[riveth]

22 hours ago, deathmorph said:

 

"diel" doesn't throw an error message. The task was reset, or something along those lines. It seems to work, but it has no effect on my problem. I can provide the exact wording if you'd like. The task itself does not appear to be the reason for getting stuck.

 

And I have uninstalled the original SH.

diel doesnt show error messages, it shows locked layers.
riel releases locked layer (must specify number, every time number may be different so you need to use diel first to determine what layer you want to release)

so if player can't move, something is locking movement layer (layer can specify diferent things like, movement, use of pipboy, head movement and so on)

so next time you get this problem, please type diel and post prontscreen.
after this you can try riel with any number there was in diel just toi test if it helps

[deathmorph]

On 4/18/2026 at 7:50 PM, riveth said:

so next time you get this problem, please type diel and post prontscreen.
after this you can try riel with any number there was in diel just toi test if it helps

 

I had already tried that without success and posted about it here.
I'll gladly try again... if you're expecting a different result.

[deathmorph]

On 4/18/2026 at 7:50 PM, riveth said:

so next time you get this problem, please type diel and post prontscreen.
after this you can try riel with any number there was in diel just toi test if it helps

 

I've experienced this several times in the game now. During various harassments involving a drawn weapon. It has been confirmed that this issue occurs only during the "Sex for Money" harassment event; All other harassment, which is averted with a weapon, proceeds normally.
The commands diel and riel produced no result, as before.
Screenshots attached.

 

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@riveth I just noticed the same "stuck" issue during a different interaction - specifically with the "Forced" option. This had always escaped my notice before, as I had previously selected the lower option. Not this time, though - and *voilà*, the lady got stuck.
So, it seems this has nothing to do with the "Sex for Money" interaction itself, but rather with the "Forced" option.
Hopefully, this helps with the troubleshooting.

 

@riveth PS: Here is an image showing the options for clarification.

 

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Another thing I noticed: in the "Aim" scenario, the weapon remains stuck even after the first dialogue sequence. In the "FORCED" scenario, this is where it ends, and the lady remains stuck. In the "AIM" scenario, however, there is a second dialogue sequence involving a camera switch (see image), after which the lady is freed again. Does this help?

 

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PPS: I have another idea. In this harassment (see picture), the lady defends herself if she does not have enough willpower to push the tormentor away. This process then goes through all the clothing items worn. But she also has the option of doing nothing. But... even then, each query goes through all the clothing items. That doesn't make sense to me. If she resigns and gives up, then it would be more logical if the tormentor undressed her at the first response and performed the act. What do you think?

 

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Edited April 28 by deathmorph

[riveth]

On 4/24/2026 at 4:03 AM, deathmorph said:

 

I've experienced this several times in the game now. During various harassments involving a drawn weapon. It has been confirmed that this issue occurs only during the "Sex for Money" harassment event; All other harassment, which is averted with a weapon, proceeds normally.
The commands diel and riel produced no result, as before.
Screenshots attached.

 

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@riveth I just noticed the same "stuck" issue during a different interaction - specifically with the "Forced" option. This had always escaped my notice before, as I had previously selected the lower option. Not this time, though - and *voilà*, the lady got stuck.
So, it seems this has nothing to do with the "Sex for Money" interaction itself, but rather with the "Forced" option.
Hopefully, this helps with the troubleshooting.

 

@riveth PS: Here is an image showing the options for clarification.

 

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Another thing I noticed: in the "Aim" scenario, the weapon remains stuck even after the first dialogue sequence. In the "FORCED" scenario, this is where it ends, and the lady remains stuck. In the "AIM" scenario, however, there is a second dialogue sequence involving a camera switch (see image), after which the lady is freed again. Does this help?

 

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PPS: I have another idea. In this harassment (see picture), the lady defends herself if she does not have enough willpower to push the tormentor away. This process then goes through all the clothing items worn. But she also has the option of doing nothing. But... even then, each query goes through all the clothing items. That doesn't make sense to me. If she resigns and gives up, then it would be more logical if the tormentor undressed her at the first response and performed the act. What do you think?

 

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Thanks for spoting it's all 'forced' dialogue option. It narrows problem actually.

 

In forced dialogue I'm using original script fragment from SH to simulate rude reply from player. If your pc is older or under heavy load it may not have enough time to release your controls. This problem has never occured on my setup, but iI think I could make test version for you with no SH script in it just to test it out.

 

As for stripping option, it was bring up before and I agree its annoing to wait for harasser to strip all clothes. I try to add 'give in' option so player can skip it. 

 

Hard part is that it is made purely by script and I'm not good with this so it will take me some time I guess.

 

Edit; also there is something wrong with dialogue on your prinscreen with "aim" and forced option tagged.

"Oh" and "really" should be only visible after picking dialogue option aim and then agree to talk with harasser. But at this point player should have weapon holstered and no aim and forced option should be displayed.

Edited April 28 by riveth

[deathmorph]

Is it necessary to simply hold the weapon drawn when answering questions, or do I absolutely have to aim? Sometimes the AIM/FORCED option appears. Sometimes not. Then I aim, then she's there again.

[riveth]

50 minutes ago, deathmorph said:

Is it necessary to simply hold the weapon drawn when answering questions, or do I absolutely have to aim? Sometimes the AIM/FORCED option appears. Sometimes not. Then I aim, then she's there again.

Any weapon state else than holstered would do. are you sure you have latest version? Because I solved same problems as you describes already.
In addition did you disabled original SH ?

Also, on next harassment try:
- pick option [AIM]
- then pick option that says harasser to fuck off.

Technically outcome should be simillar to [forced] option, and I'm curious  how it works on your setup.

Edited April 29 by riveth