Herowynne Posted January 10 Author Posted January 10 On 1/7/2026 at 10:52 AM, DonQuiWho said: As promised, here's a list of what might be a reasonably good set of DDs and ZAZ items for someone to be able to start crafting right at the beginning of the game. I've included the Mod References and some suggestions as the crafting materials menus Thanks for the list! ❤️ Version 2.0.0 of this mod now includes crafting recipes for all the devices in your list, plus a few more.
DonQuiWho Posted January 10 Posted January 10 1 hour ago, Herowynne said: Thanks for the list! ❤️ Version 2.0.0 of this mod now includes crafting recipes for all the devices in your list, plus a few more. Thank you ever so much! You are magic! It's late here ...(very late!) .... so I'll give them a test run tomorrow And again, t y v v m! DQW 1
DoroLL Posted January 10 Posted January 10 Hello. I don't dislike the devices, I dislike the troublesome, so I don't want to install DD. No key needed. No Laura's shop needed. I wish it could be freely put on and off like other outfit mods. Could you create that's no lock and no debuff a DD just outfit mod?
DonQuiWho Posted January 10 Posted January 10 7 hours ago, DonQuiWho said: Thank you ever so much! You are magic! It's late here ...(very late!) .... so I'll give them a test run tomorrow And again, t y v v m! DQW @Herowynne Quick follow-up Just had a chance to have a short try out of your Key & Device Crafting mod, and although I didn't have time to try crafting every item, everything I did craft worked out just fine! So, a very big from here! Thanks again DQW 1
Herowynne Posted January 10 Author Posted January 10 On 1/7/2026 at 10:52 AM, DonQuiWho said: As promised, here's a list of what might be a reasonably good set ... ZAZ items for someone to be able to start crafting right at the beginning of the game. Okay, I created another mod Zaz Crafting to provide crafting recipes for the Zaz items on your list. Enjoy! 1
DonQuiWho Posted January 10 Posted January 10 1 minute ago, Herowynne said: Okay, I created another mod Zaz Crafting to provide crafting recipes for the Zaz items on your list. Enjoy! YES! You truly are heroic! TYVM I hadn't had the nerve to mention the ZAZ list as I thought I might sound ungrateful - which I certainly am not! I'll try this out asap! DQW DQW 1
DonQuiWho Posted January 10 Posted January 10 26 minutes ago, DonQuiWho said: YES! You truly are heroic! TYVM I hadn't had the nerve to mention the ZAZ list as I thought I might sound ungrateful - which I certainly am not! I'll try this out asap! DQW DQW @Herowynne Again, only a limited test on the ZAZ items, but all looks good! As ever, the non magic zbf items 'break' if the wearer sandboxes on anything, ie as seen on my followers who were the test subjects, and who have minds of their own in that regard - I suppose I should set them NOT to sandbox LOL - but they should be great on new PAHE/DOM slaves when being walked through the wilderness! Attached are a couple of examples of your handiwork, with mixed DD and ZAZ restraintys, on Xena's henchgirls, Gabriel and Callisto, to show the newly craftable items in place and doing their thing .... 😉 Thanks again DQW 1
Herowynne Posted January 10 Author Posted January 10 7 minutes ago, DonQuiWho said: Attached are a couple of examples of your handiwork, with mixed DD and ZAZ restraintys, on Xena's henchgirls, Gabriel and Callisto, to show the newly craftable items in place and doing their thing .... 😉 Thanks again DQW You are quite welcome! 👍 Many thanks for the item crafting suggestions and for the recipe ingredient ideas. ❤️ These mods would have taken much longer if I had to think of ingredient lists from scratch. Enjoy! 1
Herowynne Posted January 10 Author Posted January 10 18 hours ago, DoroLL said: Hello. I don't dislike the devices, I dislike the troublesome, so I don't want to install DD. No key needed. No Laura's shop needed. I wish it could be freely put on and off like other outfit mods. Could you create that's no lock and no debuff a DD just outfit mod? Some of the DD items have unlocked variants that can be freely worn and removed. Those items are available in the file Devious Devices - Assets.esm You can use AddItemMenu or an equivalent to browse the items available in Devious Devices - Assets.esm You may also want to consider wearing items from ZAZ Animation Packs 8.0+ for SE 2023 since they do not lock. As for someone creating an alternative to DD, I don't think that is reasonable. DD is the result of many years of work by many people. @Kimy (the author of DD) got permission from all the creators who made those item and device meshes and textures, and then Kimy did a huge amount of work to integrate those items into DD. Many DD items require animations so your character poses their body appropriately when the item is equipped or worn, and permission was also needed from those animation creators.
DoroLL Posted January 11 Posted January 11 36 minutes ago, Herowynne said: Some of the DD items have unlocked variants that can be freely worn and removed. Those items are available in the file Devious Devices - Assets.esm You can use AddItemMenu or an equivalent to browse the items available in Devious Devices - Assets.esm You may also want to consider wearing items from ZAZ Animation Packs 8.0+ for SE 2023 since they do not lock. As for someone creating an alternative to DD, I don't think that is reasonable. DD is the result of many years of work by many people. @Kimy (the author of DD) got permission from all the creators who made those item and device meshes and textures, and then Kimy did a huge amount of work to integrate those items into DD. Many DD items require animations so your character poses their body appropriately when the item is equipped or worn, and permission was also needed from those animation creators. I only need the plug, chastity, harnesses, to use in Billyy's SLAL Animations. Will your mods or Devious Devices - Assets.esm still work if I delete or disable DD ESP?
Herowynne Posted January 11 Author Posted January 11 17 minutes ago, DoroLL said: I only need the plug, chastity, harnesses, to use in Billyy's SLAL Animations. Will your mods or Devious Devices - Assets.esm still work if I delete or disable DD ESP? Sorry, I don't know whether Billyy's SLAL Animations have any dependencies on DD. I do know that Devious Devices - Assets.esm can be used by itself. If you only want to use items from that ESM file, you do not need to activate the other ESM files that are part of DD. My mods that require DD won't work if only Devious Devices - Assets.esm is activated. My mods also depend on the other ESM files of DD. 1
DonQuiWho Posted January 11 Posted January 11 16 hours ago, Herowynne said: You are quite welcome! 👍 Many thanks for the item crafting suggestions and for the recipe ingredient ideas. ❤️ These mods would have taken much longer if I had to think of ingredient lists from scratch. Enjoy! BTW, if using iAFT, and you remove Followers' ability to 'Relax', the ZAZ restraints will 'stick' to followers as they then don't sandbox & change their pose DQW 1
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