Missing master. Ignore or solve?

[anjenthedog]

During my reinstallation efforts, I updated SL to the latest version, as well as CF, MNC 15.6, and BDICHentaiCreatures (and all related mods per instructions, with one exception)

 

 

Vortex is posting a flag that says:

 

Check Failed

Some of the enabled plugins depend on others that are not enabled

BDICHentaiCreatures.esp  ... depends on ... HentaiCreatures.esp

 

 

But MNC 15.6 doesn't come with HC. It comes with a "less aggressively toned" replacement for HC, ie, "CreatureSummoner".

 

Anyway... It seems to be working as intended (all other dependencies are covered and load order is according to installation instructions (with the exception of HC)  and I wouldn't' be surprised to discover that all the "real" needs for HC are covered already, but idk..

 

Do I "solve" it (installing HC, some patch, or otherwise), or just mark the flag for "ignore"?

Edited February 19, 2025 by anjenthedog

[belegost]

Report it to @MadMansGun

[NymphoElf]

You NEED to solve it somehow. Here are your options:

 

1. Get a copy of the Hentai Creatures plugin somehow (even if another mod/plugin effectively overwrites everything)
2. Figure out how to patch it
3. Don't use BDICHentaiCreatures

 

I don't know what all could happen if you try to launch the game with a missing master, but I know none of it is good.

 

EDIT: What belegost said also works.

Edited February 19, 2025 by NymphoElf

[belegost]

Basic MNC shouldn't even require HC. Either you got some wrong file or author forgot to remove masters.

Edited February 19, 2025 by belegost

[Grey Cloud]

2 hours ago, anjenthedog said:

During my reinstallation efforts, I updated SL to the latest version, as well as CF, MNC 15.6, and BDICHentaiCreatures (and all related mods per instructions, with one exception)

 

 

Vortex is posting a flag that says:

 

Check Failed

Some of the enabled plugins depend on others that are not enabled

BDICHentaiCreatures.esp  ... depends on ... HentaiCreatures.esp

 

 

But MNC 15.6 doesn't come with HC. It comes with a "less aggressively toned" replacement for HC, ie, "CreatureSummoner".

 

Anyway... It seems to be working as intended (all other dependencies are covered and load order is according to installation instructions (with the exception of HC)  and I wouldn't' be surprised to discover that all the "real" needs for HC are covered already, but idk..

 

Do I "solve" it (installing HC, some patch, or otherwise), or just mark the flag for "ignore"?

Two things.

Where does MNC come into this? The error message mentions BDICHentaiCreatures and regular HentaiCreatures.

Is BDICHentaiCreatures an SE mod?

 

 

[anjenthedog]

10 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

Two things.

Where does MNC come into this? The error message mentions BDICHentaiCreatures and regular HentaiCreatures.

Is BDICHentaiCreatures an SE mod?

 

 

 

MNC comes into play because it is the ostensible originator of Hentai Creatures, being a (formerly) constituent download in MNC since ~2020 or before.

 

It has now been replaced with the other one I mentioned.

 

And since it's no longer in the download files for MNC (15.6), and there seems to be no mention of HC in the current release's description, I would presume it's been quietly overridden and "obsoleted" by the newer adjunct mod, since they both do the same thing, just with slight wording changes in dialogs and notification messages. 

 

Yes, Afaik, it is an SE mod. It schlongifies creatures added by immersive creatures.

Edited February 19, 2025 by anjenthedog

[anjenthedog]

2 hours ago, belegost said:

Report it to @MadMansGun

good idea. ... although it seems to be more of an issue for BDIC than MNC, since MNC  is working just fine, as is the replacement for HC...

 

The only issue is that BDIC is flagging an error because HC isn't installed (still works fine though and it applying all the changes its supposed to do).

 

I figured someone else might have actually run into it. Apparently not? No one? I'm actually trailblazing on a 2025 installation of  Skyrim 1.6x and Skyrim 1.6x adjunct mods that have been out for well over a year? hmm........

Edited February 19, 2025 by anjenthedog
after thinking about it

[Grey Cloud]

27 minutes ago, anjenthedog said:

Yes, Afaik, it is an SE mod.

Do you have link?

 

If it is a missing master then the game shouldn't load. The error message says 'enabled' rather than 'installed'. Maybe BDICHC has two esps - the second being the HC esp. I can't remember if Vortex tells you about multiple plugins.

[anjenthedog]

4 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

Do you have link?

 

If it is a missing master then the game shouldn't load. The error message says 'enabled' rather than 'installed'. Maybe BDICHC has two esps - the second being the HC esp. I can't remember if Vortex tells you about multiple plugins.

 

It definitely flags as a missing master, vortex deploys regardless, the plugins are all active, the game loads fine, and the "advertised behavior (schlongifying of creatures added by immersive creatures) does work.

 

 

Edited February 19, 2025 by anjenthedog

[Grey Cloud]

38 minutes ago, anjenthedog said:

 

It definitely flags as a missing master, vortex deploys regardless, the plugins are all active, the game loads fine, and the "advertised behavior (schlongifying of creatures added by immersive creatures) does work.

 

 

Am I missing something? That is a link to BDIC not BDIC Hentai Creatures.

 

Have you looked at the mod in Wrye Bash? If WB sees a missing master it will give you the option of creating a dummy master.

[anjenthedog]

23 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

Am I missing something? That is a link to BDIC not BDIC Hentai Creatures.

 

Have you looked at the mod in Wrye Bash? If WB sees a missing master it will give you the option of creating a dummy master.

Look in the downloads section

 

also, the description goes into some details, and the installation instructions.

 

Again, Hentai creatures is, or was an MNC download.

 

PS> on wrye bash, I'm clueless, although I sorta get what you're suggesting. (re: dummy master) << if indeed it's a hollow error

Edited February 19, 2025 by anjenthedog

[traison]

Ran a master check on BDICHentaiCreatures. It does actually require HentaiCreatures.esp:

[00:00] Start: Applying script "Report masters"
Selected masters are required by the following records and elements:
HentaiCreatureWerebear [NPC_:08066FF5]
HentaiCreatureWerewolfEffect "HentaiCreatureWerewolfEffect" [MGEF:0800536E]
HentaiCreatureWolfEffect "HentaiCreatureWolfEffect" [MGEF:08004E04]
MerchantHentaiCreaturesChest "Box of Unending Bestiality" [CONT:081BF5B8]
[00:02] Done: Applying script "Report masters", Processed Records: 69, Elapsed Time: 00:02

 

For instance in HentaiCreatureWerebear, the unresolved reference is a script property called hCreatures. So *something* is broken, but perhaps its not essential. I suppose it depends on what you intend to do with this. I would grab some old version of Hentai Creatures and use its esp, see if it satisfies these few needs.

 

I probably have old versions of this archived here if you need it.

[Grey Cloud]

1 hour ago, anjenthedog said:

Look in the downloads section

I did but I didn't see anything that said 'hentai in the title.

[traison]

4 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

I did but I didn't see anything that said 'hentai in the title.

 

Its hiding inside 1216885848_BDICBadDogImmersiveCreaturesSE_T2.1, but I see your point.

[anjenthedog]

1 hour ago, Grey Cloud said:

I did but I didn't see anything that said 'hentai in the title.

 

At a guess, it requires some resource that's included in Hentai Creatures. If something else provides it... like the aforementioned replacement mod included in MNC's current release, then it's possible that all's well (which so far it seems to be). It's just looking to make sure HC is installed as a verification that the necessary content is available, sees it isn't (the mod, not the resources), and throws an error flag.

Edited February 19, 2025 by anjenthedog

[anjenthedog]

1 hour ago, traison said:

Ran a master check on BDICHentaiCreatures. It does actually require HentaiCreatures.esp:

[00:00] Start: Applying script "Report masters"
Selected masters are required by the following records and elements:
HentaiCreatureWerebear [NPC_:08066FF5]
HentaiCreatureWerewolfEffect "HentaiCreatureWerewolfEffect" [MGEF:0800536E]
HentaiCreatureWolfEffect "HentaiCreatureWolfEffect" [MGEF:08004E04]
MerchantHentaiCreaturesChest "Box of Unending Bestiality" [CONT:081BF5B8]
[00:02] Done: Applying script "Report masters", Processed Records: 69, Elapsed Time: 00:02

 

For instance in HentaiCreatureWerebear, the unresolved reference is a script property called hCreatures. So *something* is broken, but perhaps its not essential. I suppose it depends on what you intend to do with this. I would grab some old version of Hentai Creatures and use its esp, see if it satisfies these few needs.

 

I probably have old versions of this archived here if you need it.

Appears to be working ok. No CTDs, functions as intended... idk... 

[Grey Cloud]

HentaiCreatures.esp

 

That's a dummy esp from Wrye Bash.

[anjenthedog]

thank you @Grey Cloud

[Grey Cloud]

16 minutes ago, anjenthedog said:

thank you @Grey Cloud

No worries. It should get rid of any missing masters messages and let you open the other esp in XEdit if you need to.