ZariusCorten Posted January 20, 2025 Posted January 20, 2025 Yes. I've seen a couple of threads that already exist. I'm starting a new one because they're from last year or older, and include links to other threads with instructions like 'it's near the top of the last page (or maybe next to last, by now)', and that's useless because the post it was indicating wasn't on the last ten pages, so it's basically broken instructions at this point. I'm running the newest version of SE (NOT anniversary edition). I'm running the SexLabFrameworkSE_v163.7z file. When I load up, I get errors telling me that the Skyrim SSE sexlabutil is outated. Mods list is very small at the moment: USSEP Alternate Start Sabertooth 3.0 (sabrecat companion mod) SkyUI_5_2_SE SkyUI SE Flashing Savegames Fix FNIS CreatureFramework 1.1.0-pre2A-SE MoreNastyCreaturesSE That's it. I *really* hate having to upgrade skyrim versions, because mods I like don't ever seem to exist on the newer versions. -.-" So I'd like to avoid instructions like "Oh, just hit X to upgrade to AE!"
traison Posted January 20, 2025 Posted January 20, 2025 This is something you should be asking your mod manager: Which mod is last to provide skse\plugins\sexlabutil.dll, and why is it not SexLabFramework?
Just Don't Posted January 21, 2025 Posted January 21, 2025 2 hours ago, ZariusCorten said: I'm running the newest version of SE (NOT anniversary edition). What's the product version of your SkyrimSE.exe file? Do you have Address Library for your version of the game? It's usually something very simple like not installing Address Library, or using the wrong files because people confuse SE and AE with the actual versions of the executable which is all that matters for DLL compatibility.
MadMansGun Posted January 21, 2025 Posted January 21, 2025 (edited) 9 hours ago, ZariusCorten said: newest version of SE (NOT anniversary edition) in other words you ARE running AE and have the wrong version of sexlab installed. Edited January 21, 2025 by MadMansGun
Grey Cloud Posted January 21, 2025 Posted January 21, 2025 (edited) 14 hours ago, ZariusCorten said: Yes. I've seen a couple of threads that already exist. I'm starting a new one because they're from last year or older, and include links to other threads with instructions like 'it's near the top of the last page (or maybe next to last, by now)', and that's useless because the post it was indicating wasn't on the last ten pages, so it's basically broken instructions at this point. I'm running the newest version of SE (NOT anniversary edition). That's it. I *really* hate having to upgrade skyrim versions, because mods I like don't ever seem to exist on the newer versions. All this says you don't know what you are talking about. For SE https://www.loverslab.com/topic/136543-mod-organizer-2-other-tools-from-zero-to-hey-sexlab-is-working/ https://www.loverslab.com/topic/118460-skyrim-se-for-beginners-v-319-3bbb-hdt-smp-hph/ https://www.loverslab.com/topic/94228-se-compatibility-tracking-apr-23/ https://www.loverslab.com/topic/126227-sexlab-index-se/ Edited January 21, 2025 by Grey Cloud
ZariusCorten Posted January 21, 2025 Author Posted January 21, 2025 21 hours ago, traison said: This is something you should be asking your mod manager: Which mod is last to provide skse\plugins\sexlabutil.dll, and why is it not SexLabFramework? Mods list is very small at the moment: USSEP Alternate Start Sabertooth 3.0 (sabrecat companion mod) SkyUI_5_2_SE SkyUI SE Flashing Savegames Fix FNIS Sexlab Framework CreatureFramework 1.1.0-pre2A-SE MoreNastyCreaturesSE Removed everything that could even remotely be conflicting, and no change. Nothing should possibly be sending the file, since nothing else actually interacts with it. 13 hours ago, MadMansGun said: in other words you ARE running AE and have the wrong version of sexlab installed. Given that, when I load it, it tells me that I can press X to upgrade to anniversary edition... No. It's not anniversary edition, or it wouldn't be offering me the upgrade to such. At least, I have to assume that it's smart enough to not offer to upgrade to itself, otherwise it's just the republican party as a bugthesda product. 19 hours ago, Just Don't said: What's the product version of your SkyrimSE.exe file? Do you have Address Library for your version of the game? It's usually something very simple like not installing Address Library, or using the wrong files because people confuse SE and AE with the actual versions of the executable which is all that matters for DLL compatibility. See, now, this is a really polite way of saying "I think you might be a dumbass, let me confirm." According to the Details tab of the .exe's Properties window, it's version 1.6.1170.0 Since I have exactly zero idea what Address Library is, I'm going to beg money the answer is no. To be entirely honest, I'm only just now "upgrading" to SE because I can't seem to figure out how to get LE to do what I want it to do (have a sabrecat plow my tabaxi).
ZariusCorten Posted January 21, 2025 Author Posted January 21, 2025 8 hours ago, Grey Cloud said: All this says you don't know what you are talking about. For SE https://www.loverslab.com/topic/136543-mod-organizer-2-other-tools-from-zero-to-hey-sexlab-is-working/ https://www.loverslab.com/topic/118460-skyrim-se-for-beginners-v-319-3bbb-hdt-smp-hph/ https://www.loverslab.com/topic/94228-se-compatibility-tracking-apr-23/ https://www.loverslab.com/topic/126227-sexlab-index-se/ Thanks for insulting me while explaining absolutely nothing. You're partially right. I have no clue what I'm doing. Which, since I'm pretty sure that I've done things as close to right as I can, would be why I'm asking for help. Rather than being an asshole, maybe just say "hey, try these topics you might not have missed." And then I could have said "hey, you're right, I didn't see those, thanks for the suggestion." Instead, you just have to go and prove that we're both assholes because you felt the need to insult me, and trigger my need to tell you to go fuck yourself.
traison Posted January 21, 2025 Posted January 21, 2025 The SexLabUtil version check is implemented in sslSystemConfig. In my case it looks like this: elseIf CheckSystem == "SexLabUtil" return SexLabUtil.GetPluginVersion() >= 16300 Where GetPluginVersion is defined as a global native function: int function GetPluginVersion() global native So that really only leaves you with these options: Something has overwritten sslConfigMenu.pex, where the GUI is drawn. Something has overwritten sslSystemConfig.pex where the versin check is made. Something has overwritten SexLabUtil.pex and provided its own implementation of GetPluginVersion. Something has overwritten SexLabUtil.dll. SexLabUtil.dll is not loaded. This will show up in the Papyrus log as well as skse64.log, start with inspecting the latter. Condensing that down to 2 options, both of which have been mentioned in this thread already: Your mod manager can tell you what is overriding SL's files. Your game version may be different than you think, preventing SexLabUtil.dll from loading. The version number of the SkyrimSE.exe file is the only thing that matters, not what you purchased, not what it says in the receipt, not what the menus say, not what Steam says. More specifically, the checksum of the exe is what matters, but usually its enough to check the version number.
Grey Cloud Posted January 21, 2025 Posted January 21, 2025 12 minutes ago, ZariusCorten said: Thanks for insulting me while explaining absolutely nothing. You're partially right. I have no clue what I'm doing. Which, since I'm pretty sure that I've done things as close to right as I can, would be why I'm asking for help. Rather than being an asshole, maybe just say "hey, try these topics you might not have missed." And then I could have said "hey, you're right, I didn't see those, thanks for the suggestion." Instead, you just have to go and prove that we're both assholes because you felt the need to insult me, and trigger my need to tell you to go fuck yourself. It's one thing not knowing what you are doing and another thing entirely to talk nonsense. Your response to the other posts is to post more nonsense: 15 minutes ago, ZariusCorten said: See, now, this is a really polite way of saying "I think you might be a dumbass, let me confirm." 17 minutes ago, ZariusCorten said: According to the Details tab of the .exe's Properties window, it's version 1.6.1170.0 That is Skyrim AE. This doesn't make you dumb, it is something which confuses a lot of people which is why Just Don't asked. Address library: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/32444 Make sure you grab the correct version for AE. Do yourself a favour and follow Just Don't's guide (first link of those I posted).
MadMansGun Posted January 21, 2025 Posted January 21, 2025 1 hour ago, ZariusCorten said: Given that, when I load it, it tells me that I can press X to upgrade to anniversary edition... No. It's not anniversary edition, 1 hour ago, ZariusCorten said: According to the Details tab of the .exe's Properties window, it's version 1.6.1170.0 1.6.1170.0 is AE, when we talk about AE we mean the exe version, not the dlc pack of CC crap. also your game has fishing in it, that came free with the AE exe update.
ZariusCorten Posted January 22, 2025 Author Posted January 22, 2025 1 hour ago, Grey Cloud said: It's one thing not knowing what you are doing and another thing entirely to talk nonsense. Your response to the other posts is to post more nonsense: That is Skyrim AE. This doesn't make you dumb, it is something which confuses a lot of people which is why Just Don't asked. Address library: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/32444 Make sure you grab the correct version for AE. Do yourself a favour and follow Just Don't's guide (first link of those I posted). See, now, you've already ruined any credibility you might have had when you chose insulting me over JUST FUCKING EXPLAINING SHIT. For the following reasons: 1) I didn't buy AE, so as far as I know, I have no reason to assume that when I download SE, it'll put AE on my computer. In fact, I didn't buy SE, bugthesda just said "hey, fuck you, have SE, and like it, because we're going to do everything we can to make sure LE gets killed." 2) SE has been on my computer (and unused) for years because I had no reason to move to SE, so I have no reason to assume that it just randomly decided to update, beyond "steam likes to just update stuff that you never load." Which, I suppose is at least partially my fault, since Winblows does that all the fucking time to me. 3) When I load up SE, it still has the little doohicky that says "Press X to upgrade to anniversary edition," so I have no reason to assume that it's been upgraded without my knowledge in spite of points one and two. That said, MadMansGun's statement indicating that AE for the .exe isn't the same thing as what the client means AE is when I boot up and it advertises it to me is, while fucking retarded, not entirely surprising. And there's a difference between "not knowing what you're talking about" and "not catching that the jargon for two different things in the same context is exactly the same." You can't really blame someone for being confused when two different things use the same jargon syntax. Also, speaking of nonsense. That wasn't nonsense I was saying to Just Don't. That was this thing people with a sense of humor like to call "a fucking joke." I know he wasn't calling me a dumbass, indirectly or otherwise. Hence why, unlike with you, I immediately answered his question after said joke.
Just Don't Posted January 22, 2025 Posted January 22, 2025 2 hours ago, ZariusCorten said: See, now, this is a really polite way of saying "I think you might be a dumbass, let me confirm." According to the Details tab of the .exe's Properties window, it's version 1.6.1170.0 So this is the current version you get if you install the game from Steam. Keep that number in mind, whenever you see a mod using a DLL file (which are usually in \SKSE\plugins\*.dll) you'll need to pay extra care about version compatibility. SL Framework is such a mod, that's why in its download page you see in big red letters the list of different files and the corresponding game version you need to use them. Another classic is Racemenu which has a different version of the mod released for each (or most) game versions and this info is stated in the Files tab of its nexusmods page. 2 hours ago, ZariusCorten said: Since I have exactly zero idea what Address Library is, I'm going to beg money the answer is no. To be entirely honest, I'm only just now "upgrading" to SE because I can't seem to figure out how to get LE to do what I want it to do (have a sabrecat plow my tabaxi). Address Library is mentioned as a requirement, there's also a link in the SL Framework download page. So go back and check that. Keep the version of your game in mind, there's a file for 1.5.x and another for 1.6.x+ versions. As an additional tip go to your Steam library, find your Skyrim Special Edition game and right click, then select Properties. Go to the Updates tab and set it to "Wait until I launch the game" and "Pause background downloads while I'm playing". This way Steam won't attempt to update the game immediately (in case a new update is released). Instead you'll have to manually launch the game using the default executable instead of the SKSE one. There are other things you can do like setting the appmanifest of the game to read-only or using your whole Steam in offline mode. Those are different methods to avoid an automatic update so your game doesn't update and some mods become incompatible as soon as a new patch for the game is released on Steam. There hasn't been a new patch since Jan 2024, fingers crossed it stays the same. 1
ZariusCorten Posted January 22, 2025 Author Posted January 22, 2025 All of that pointless bitching and moaning completed to soothe my ego minutely, V 1.66b does not return the error report. So, thank you everyone that didn't start their part of the conversation by simply insulting me.
ZariusCorten Posted January 22, 2025 Author Posted January 22, 2025 Further notes, I *did* add Address Library when it was mentioned earlier, and sorry about missing that. And thank you for the suggestion with the update settings, I modified those as suggested.
MadMansGun Posted January 22, 2025 Posted January 22, 2025 8 minutes ago, ZariusCorten said: . one of the many reasons they have been on my block user list for years. anyways you need to use AE / 1.6.x / 1.6.1170.0 versions of mods for anything skse related. the AE vs "AE" thing has been such a fucking pain for years that we all sort of gave up on explaining it due to already doing so 100's of times before, we know its not good for new users, but we are so god dam tired of it all and burned out.
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