Ponzi Dump

[Scrab]

4 hours ago, DonQuiWho said:

I found that out the hard way, in that one of the PAHE/AYGAS/HSH/DOM mods requires code that is in SLAv28 to complete the sale of 'slaves' in game, and the Pap log was showing the same, absolutely consistent, error every time you tried to do that. 

2 hours ago, Talesien said:

Yes, both OSL and SLA NG removed some 'not required' scripts that are actually used by a handful of mods. Something @Scrab might need to take into account while merging it into P+, unless those mods are also incompatible with P+, then it's a moot point.
Might be helpful to have a list of those mods. Think you can find out in more detail?

 

Id be more interested knowing which of the 500 SLA mods is considered a "complete version"? I doubt ponzi just deleted a random script, he probably based SLANG off of a version that was missing that script to begin with

 

Edited November 14, 2024 by Scrab

[Talesien]

50 minutes ago, Scrab said:

 

Id be more interested knowing which of the 500 SLA mods is considered a "complete version"? I doubt ponzi just deleted a random script, he probably based SLANG off of a version that was missing that script to begin with

 

Usually the fishburger version is considered the 'baseline', might be better to instead consider the Baka variant of it as people usually also want support for the Baka keywords.
Far as I know Ponzi based SLA NG on SLAM, which I think still had those script(s), but I might be wrong.

That said, I doubt people will agree on what SLA variant is the most complete, it depends on what people are after. Want creature support? Forget OSL (although there is sort of a patch now). Want at least rudimentary support for the Baka keywords? Forget the fishburger version (and some others). Etc., pp.

Edited November 14, 2024 by Talesien

[DonQuiWho]

1 hour ago, Scrab said:

 

Id be more interested knowing which of the 500 SLA mods is considered a "complete version"? I doubt ponzi just deleted a random script, he probably based SLANG off of a version that was missing that script to begin with

 

 

Fair point, for sure

 

The version of SLA that I am presently using which does work with PAH/HSH etc is:

 

SXL SexLab Aroused Redux V28b SSE Modified by BakaFactory(2020 11 17))

 

Below is the section of the slamainscr.psc that seems to be called by the HSH mod,

 

and as there is no equivalent to that or getLoadedActors in SLA NG, a game using SLA NG returns an error which results in it being impossible to sell a slave

 

;Call this function to get the actors retrieved in the previous scan
;Be sure to call UnlockScan(lockNum) when you are done processing the actors
;Scanall has a 20 slot array of actors, but most will be unfilled
Actor [] function getLoadedActors(int lockNum)
    if(checkForLock(2))
        debug.trace("In the middle of an update")
        return none
    endif
    LockScan(lockNum)
    return theActors
endFunction

 

The log error returned is

 

07/13/2024 - 10:42:03PM] Error: Method getLoadedActors not found on slaMainScr. Aborting call and returning None
stack:
    [PHHSHStorage (CF008402)].phhshslal.GetActors() - "phhshslal.psc" Line 31
    [PHHSHScenesSLA (CF0BF923)].phhshscenesla.ProcessArousals() - "phhshSceneSLA.psc" Line 14
    [alias PlayerAlias on quest PHHSHStorage (CF008402)].phhshplayerscript.OnArousalComputed() - "phhshplayerscript.psc" Line 43

 

And to be sure, FWIW, it is quite possible that Ponzi may have used some other version of SLA as his baseline.   On the other hand, I have used the SLA mods since time immemorial, and I'm pretty sure it was OK with the earlier, ie pre baka, version of SLA v28 as well.  Of course, musje might have amended HSH to match, and we could go round and round in (pointless) ever decreasing circles .... 😆

 

Anyway, I hope that helps, and provides the info to show that SLA NG is not necessarily a direct equivalent to at least the main prior versions of the SLA mod and as is, with no possibility removal, might break other things irretrievably

 

I'm sure that you will be able to tell anyone who needs to know better than I can 🙂

 

DQW

 

Edited November 14, 2024 by DonQuiWho

[iooni]

This is unfortunate, I was hoping for an eventual update to Slaves of Tamriel.

[Nuascura]

Just a quick note since I noticed some list authors needed help: If you have an older version of a ponzi work that isn't adopted by another mod author, you can pass it to me to upload on the main page of this dump if necessary. This is mostly for wabbajack lists. You obviously need the original compressed file with its original hash intact. The addendums don't apply to these files in terms of permissions and redistribution - just as long as any work derived from them remain FOSS.

[ebbluminous]

5 hours ago, Tahor said:

Oh that's unfortunate ne ws. I've just been installing a Wabbajack modlist and it uses both Sexlab Cum Overlays Extended v0.1.0.7z and SCOE Texture Set - SLACS Plus 4K v1.7z.

 

I've tried manually downloading both files from this dump, but I've been unsuccessful in making Wabbajack accept them. Does anyone have older or different versions of those files?

Better yet, tell the lazy fuck who made the wankajack list to upodate it...

[SacredDatura]

Can a kind soul provide a summary of what Redux added to Devious Followers? I'm a longtime DF player but am several years out of the loop and came back a mere few days too late to investigate for myself it seems.

[UsernameTaken666]

10 hours ago, Tahor said:

Oh that's unfortunate ne ws. I've just been installing a Wabbajack modlist and it uses both Sexlab Cum Overlays Extended v0.1.0.7z and SCOE Texture Set - SLACS Plus 4K v1.7z.

 

I've tried manually downloading both files from this dump, but I've been unsuccessful in making Wabbajack accept them. Does anyone have older or different versions of those files?

The really unfortunate part is you using wabbashit and crying here about issues with it....

[chaimhewast]

1 hour ago, Buridan said:

Can a kind soul provide a summary of what Redux added to Devious Followers? I'm a longtime DF player but am several years out of the loop and came back a mere few days too late to investigate for myself it seems.

There's a copy of the old file page in the first post so you can see the full description, but the part you're looking for:

 

Quote

• The classic deal selection system has been streamlined with classic deals being replaced with rule paths. This avoids overlap and conflicts between classic deals and modular rules. Every deal is now truly dynamic but rules are still picked in a consistent manner according to paths providing the flexibility of modular rules with the cogency of classic deals.
• Rule paths are defined using regular config files, allowing anyone to create their own custom paths. Refer to the built in paths found in Data/SKSE/Plugins/Devious Followers Redux/Packs/Devious Followers/Paths as a guide.
• Rule selection for deals is more intelligent, factoring in willpower, number of deals, paths, and other stats. However, this system will require balancing work.
• Rules can be dynamically registered by external addons making the process of adding new content and dialogue variations considerably easier
• Now all rules can be individually toggled within the MCM's rules page. Rules are organized into packs where the default pack is of course Devious Followers.
• Crawling has been converted to Open Animation Replacer. There is a FNIS compatibility mode but I highly recommend using OAR
• The device library has been updated to leverage Devious Devices 5.0
• The device selection system has been significantly sped up with the introduction of new native functions
• Various bug fixes for different rules, enforcement, and behaviour
• The potion quest has been temporarily disabled - this will likely be superseded by new systems
• The whore armor deal now allows you to set your own custom armors using a simple config file. By default the provided armors will be pulled from TAWOBA 6.1.

 

[IvaInn]

Hello, can you tell me if the SL Aroused NG mod is backwards compatible? I'm starting a new game with SL Survival, Slaverun beta 03 and Apropos 2 and I get the warning Sexlab Aroused error: downgrading to version 20140124 is not supported. Is it possible to ignore him?

[MEyahMegusta]

Any advice with the use of SCOE? I am getting constant freezing in Solestheim nonstop with this mod enabled and in some cases, it triggers in other placers too seemingly.
Making a save infront of Telmyphryn apothecary, quitting the game, restarting and then loading then entering the apothecary is the best way to consistently reproduce this issue with the mod installed.

I am currently using the Utility+ version. I believe when I was using Scrabs sP+ that this issue wasn't a problem but I could be mistaken.

 

EDIT:
Hello, OP I know you didn't make or own these mods but please add a note about SCOE "Persistant Cum on Female Npcs" setting can actually cause games to freeze in load screens, will show up on task manager as "Not responding" and it will also usually keep playing music. Use what I said prior in this post as a scenario for people to have the problem to try reproducing it. It seems like 80% of the time with this Setting on it causes problems.

Edited November 28, 2024 by MEyahMegusta

[buzzkill22]

Devious Followers Redux seems to also require Dynamic Dialogue Replacer NG, and the only link I can find to that is Skyrim-Guild, which is gone.

[ebbluminous]

25 minutes ago, buzzkill22 said:

Devious Followers Redux seems to also require Dynamic Dialogue Replacer NG, and the only link I can find to that is Skyrim-Guild, which is gone.

It doesn't - Never heard of Dynamic Dialogue Replacer NG until your post and Followers works fine for me.

[buzzkill22]

54 minutes ago, ebbluminous said:

It doesn't - Never heard of Dynamic Dialogue Replacer NG until your post and Followers works fine for me.

All the Deals dialogue is messed up for me, i have AF and Redux.

[Deliah Blue]

Is Sexlab Cum Overlays Extended compatible with BISR that you just posted to Nexus?

[Nuascura]

1 hour ago, Deliah Blue said:

Is Sexlab Cum Overlays Extended compatible with BISR that you just posted to Nexus?

yes

[Seeker999]

I'm not sure where to post this but I have a question about Devious Followers Redux. I'm using 0.1.9. When I have the plug deal, if I get attacked my debt can easily go up to 100,000 if I don't pause DFR because of Devious Devices automatically removing all plugs during sex {this should have been made optional since it affects other mods, imho). Yes, they get replaced, but not before debt starts racking up. I don't know if this issue was dealt with in the newer version of DFR and I know I can't update but need a new game. I'm not quite ready for that. I started this pt Jan. 2024.

Anyway, is there a timer setting I can change in XEdit so at least I only get punished 1x/day or something? Even 1x/8 hours would be okay. Well, better. If @Miss Corruption, @krzp or somebody could help me, I would really appreciate it. Thank you.

[winedrunk]

On 11/11/2024 at 12:23 AM, Talesien said:

Latest (compiled) version is 0.5.1:
Adversity Framework v0.5.1.7z

I 'think' Ponzi made some more bugfix commits, so if you encounter errors with this one (I certainly did), they might already been fixed only awaiting the time Scrab can dig herself out of the pile of code she so suddenly got buried under.

What errors did you encounter with that version?

[Talesien]

2 minutes ago, winedrunk said:

What errors did you encounter with that version?

Mostly the custom jsons for DFR not being generated (correctly) or even CTD'ing the game. Like if you do a bulk disable (so all followers are non-devious as default), that does not survive a reload as the corresponding jsons only constains empty entries. Adding a follower as buyer for SS+ also fails for similar reasons. And finally, trying to create a new clothing set for the armor rule via customconsole (i.e. issuing a command like: "adversity add-variant deviousfollowers core outfits mage 1") causes a CTD. Scrab kinda fixed that in the customconsole variant included with the ConsoleUtilities ... but now that command is not even found anymore ...

[winedrunk]

15 minutes ago, Talesien said:

Mostly the custom jsons for DFR not being generated (correctly) or even CTD'ing the game. Like if you do a bulk disable (so all followers are non-devious as default), that does not survive a reload as the corresponding jsons only constains empty entries. Adding a follower as buyer for SS+ also fails for similar reasons. And finally, trying to create a new clothing set for the armor rule via customconsole (i.e. issuing a command like: "adversity add-variant deviousfollowers core outfits mage 1") causes a CTD. Scrab kinda fixed that in the customconsole variant included with the ConsoleUtilities ... but now that command is not even found anymore ...

Thanks. That seems like game breaking level bad. Hopefully those get fixed soon.

[Talesien]

3 minutes ago, winedrunk said:

Thanks. That seems like game breaking level bad. Hopefully those get fixed soon.

Actually, if you can live without the bulk follower disable in DFR, it works quite fine. You can modify the json files it fails to create/write manually, if you want to add an armor set or a follower as buyer. It's just tedious and inconvenient.

[winedrunk]

36 minutes ago, Talesien said:

Actually, if you can live without the bulk follower disable in DFR, it works quite fine. You can modify the json files it fails to create/write manually, if you want to add an armor set or a follower as buyer. It's just tedious and inconvenient.

I see!

 

I just tried it and got some weirdness. Deal dialogue aren't playing right. I get 'Offer Response 1' as the dialogue, then 2, 3, etc, instead of the actual deal. So I have no idea what deal is actually offered. I assume the deals work normally when you tried?

(I tested with new saves)

Edited December 10, 2024 by winedrunk

[winedrunk]

On 12/1/2024 at 5:46 PM, buzzkill22 said:

All the Deals dialogue is messed up for me, i have AF and Redux.

Did you figure it out?

When it comes to deal dialogue, I got something like 'Offer Response 1'. Is it the same thing you ran into?

[Talesien]

58 minutes ago, winedrunk said:

I see!

 

I just tried it and got some weirdness. Deal dialogue aren't playing right. I get 'Offer Response 1' as the dialogue, then 2, 3, etc, instead of the actual deal. So I have no idea what deal is actually offered. I assume the deals work normally when you tried?

(I tested with new saves)

You are missing Dynamic Dialogue Replacers ... or you are using the new version Scrab put on the Nexus recently. Sadly, she changed the structure for the replacements a bit, so all mods tuned for the older version from Ponzi now need to be updated. Until that happens, I recommend you stick with Ponzis version, unless you want to convert it all yourself. I'm certain MissCorruption would appreciate the help. ^^

[winedrunk]

14 minutes ago, Talesien said:

You are missing Dynamic Dialogue Replacers ... or you are using the new version Scrab put on the Nexus recently. Sadly, she changed the structure for the replacements a bit, so all mods tuned for the older version from Ponzi now need to be updated. Until that happens, I recommend you stick with Ponzis version, unless you want to convert it all yourself. I'm certain MissCorruption would appreciate the help. ^^

I can't find Ponzis version of Dynamic Dialogue Replacers. You got a link to it?