Veladarius Posted May 16, 2014 Author Posted May 16, 2014 Anything where the player is in control takes a lot more effort to build, it usually requires more dialogue, scenes, AI Packages and such. What makes it even harder is to make it so that it isn't just something linear but actually has several outcomes.
Adam Jensen Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 I suppose that would explain why so far the focus has been mainly on player as slave scenarios with most mods.
Veladarius Posted May 16, 2014 Author Posted May 16, 2014 Even doing something with the player as a slave takes a lot of work. Most of the mods that do make the player a slave don't really do much once they have captured you. Creating scenes requires setting up a lot of different things which takes time and in many cases can't be used for something else (dialogue, AI packages and such) and it takes even longer to get them working as they should. I think I have spent 3-4 times as much time testing and making adjustments than I did in setting it up in the first place. Some packages are really picky on what works and what doesn't, I was changing the number of times the whipping scene will whip the player and increasing or decreasing it by 3-4 times caused it to not run.
Veladarius Posted May 16, 2014 Author Posted May 16, 2014 New version is available. Clean save should not be needed just make sure you are not wearing any items from the shop, doing any quests or in the area when you do update.
wildtangent Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 I noticed the defeat patch is no longer in the download section. Is not needed anymore? Thanks for the update to the wonderful mod.
Guest Xluxlu Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 i download and install your mod and when i start skyrim the game CTD D= i don´t know why, i have all the requeriments and the last version, help please
Adam Jensen Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 New version is available. Clean save should not be needed just make sure you are not wearing any items from the shop, doing any quests or in the area when you do update. AWW YEAH! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YCN-a0NsNk
wildtangent Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 i download and install your mod and when i start skyrim the game CTD D= i don´t know why, i have all the requeriments and the last version, help please I noticed Devious Devices Expansion is not listed as a requirement, but when I installed the new version it overwrote some textures from that. So I think it might be a requirement now, just not listed. Get it here http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/371-devious-devices-integration-now-with-quests-05092014/
Guest Xluxlu Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 i download and install your mod and when i start skyrim the game CTD D= i don´t know why, i have all the requeriments and the last version, help please I noticed Devious Devices Expansion is not listed as a requirement, but when I installed the new version it overwrote some textures from that. So I think it might be a requirement now, just not listed. Get it here http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/371-devious-devices-integration-now-with-quests-05092014/ THANKS =D it works now, thanks very much =D i´m playin the mod now =D
Veladarius Posted May 16, 2014 Author Posted May 16, 2014 ok thats kinda frustrating - she says "be here on the first" or whatever, so i show up at 12:01 am and she says "be here on the tenth". wait ten days, and now its the 20th. no customer. thoughts? Did the quest show up in the journal? He will be at the shop for 2 days beyond the initial day. The thing that advances the quest is a trigger box outside the shop, I am guessing that it was just before the 1st when you went into it. Also, he usually shows up around noon for some reason (I didn't set it that way, Skyrim does it, I just set the date).
Veladarius Posted May 16, 2014 Author Posted May 16, 2014 i download and install your mod and when i start skyrim the game CTD D= i don´t know why, i have all the requeriments and the last version, help please I noticed Devious Devices Expansion is not listed as a requirement, but when I installed the new version it overwrote some textures from that. So I think it might be a requirement now, just not listed. Get it here http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/371-devious-devices-integration-now-with-quests-05092014/ THANKS =D it works now, thanks very much =D i´m playin the mod now =D Sorry, thought I had added that in, it is there now.
ScarletGhost Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 yeah, i deleted my posts because i was doing some more looking. i came to the same conclusion with the trigger box thing. i never left the shop between the master telling me to be there and the arrival date, so when it came round she glitched out and just gave me another date - they BOTH show up in the journal as two separate objectives in this case. so i left as a last ditch effort, and waited till the next date, and everything triggered properly with the "you're late" thing, but it was registering that i was late for the very first date. trick is to actually leave the shop.
Veladarius Posted May 16, 2014 Author Posted May 16, 2014 I tied several things to the trigger boxes (1 inside and 1 outside) as I didn't want to have a number of different quests have to use timers or do polling at regular intervals. If you want to wait around for things to happen it is best to wait outside over towards the sign. The normal dates for the customer (Mr Tavish) to show up are the 1st, 10th and 20th but it doesn't start until you meet the initial requirements.
Mud Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 So if those are the initial requirements, do you need to maintain those stats in order to trigger the customer event again?
cadejocr Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 Tested on a virgin save. 1) Took the recovery quest. 2) Trigger the fail delivery. 3) Master pissed off, go nude , Herran aproches, we go outside, wipping start , the dialog appears and... 4) nothing happends after. Herran and master keeps next to me. Used timewait 24 hrs and nothing. First install i got a message "this device (boot) requieres HDT" , i FIXED WITH http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/36213/? BUT NOT SURE if it is the correct mod.
ScarletGhost Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 so besides that little misunderstanding everything is working great, its like you programmed it in a way that's violently forcing everything to work properly.
aqqh Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 Just wondering - those little helpers plugs are now assigned at random or is it based on character stats somehow? My mage got assassin plug, sure she is very good at sneaking but far less skilled in archery It is likely more up to Min than you but got punisher plug trigger during fight once. And it hit me for like 400 dmg (2/3 of max hp i would guess). It may be because of some script lag but still it would be little irritating to die because of a plug... @Swayer CD v2.6 contains some files from zarias restraints. Tho i doubt its full package. So yes addons and their master mods still have to be installed manually.
Mr.Friendly Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 Great mod really want to try this out again just a few questions for anyone who have installed the mod. Do I still need to install all addon or are they included in the file now? (If not will there be a full release?) Can I install addons simply with NMM?
cadejocr Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 Help anybody. Tested on a virgin save. 1) Took the recovery quest. 2) Trigger the fail delivery. 3) Master pissed off, go nude , Herran aproach, we go outside, wipping start , the dialog appears and... 4) nothing happends after. Herran and master keeps next to me. Used timewait 24 hrs and nothing. First install i got a message "this device (boot) requieres HDT" , i FIXED WITH http://www.nexusmods...im/mods/36213/? BUT NOT SURE if it is the correct mod.
asdfgman Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 hey, thanks for the update! I think i ran into some trouble with the new plugs, non of them seem to work, tried them all, now i am suck in a quest because i think the quest needs to trigger the plug before i can move on (i don t want to give details because of spolers) is this some sort of standard issue which i overlooked or is this a new problem? maybe some conflict with a other mods? please let me know what you think
Veladarius Posted May 16, 2014 Author Posted May 16, 2014 Awesome, update is out! I've been giving it a go and trying out the new features, but I couldn't get some of it to work and was wondering if anyone had the same issues. I can't seem to start the new quest. I completed around 5 of the masters quests successfully and had a higly submissive personality but was never given the option. I also tried dominant but that didnt work either. Is there something I'm missing? The debt cap didn't work for me. She kept removing my items but my debt was well over the limit and she would still remove them. When i have devious devices equipped and trigger the event where she takes them away, nothing happens. The items show as equiped in my inventory but don't show up on the player. the extras are not removed either. Some of the scripts seem to move slower with equipping / unequipping of items, I don't know if it is my scripts or something with Integration. When you hit the debt limit the Master should add more items but she will still remove them. Help anybody. Tested on a virgin save. 1) Took the recovery quest. 2) Trigger the fail delivery. 3) Master pissed off, go nude , Herran aproach, we go outside, wipping start , the dialog appears and... 4) nothing happends after. Herran and master keeps next to me. Used timewait 24 hrs and nothing. First install i got a message "this device (boot) requieres HDT" , i FIXED WITH http://www.nexusmods...im/mods/36213/? BUT NOT SURE if it is the correct mod. If something is causing scripts to lag it may stop the outdoor punishment. I used the setdontmove to keep the player in place but if something happens to interrupt the scripts it stops everything. That is the correct mod. hey, thanks for the update! I think i ran into some trouble with the new plugs, non of them seem to work, tried them all, now i am suck in a quest because i think the quest needs to trigger the plug before i can move on (i don t want to give details because of spolers) is this some sort of standard issue which i overlooked or is this a new problem? maybe some conflict with a other mods? please let me know what you think I don't have any quests that relies on one of the plugs for a quest. There is one from Integration that does though (with a College mage)
Timmy19992 Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 Help anybody. Tested on a virgin save. 1) Took the recovery quest. 2) Trigger the fail delivery. 3) Master pissed off, go nude , Herran aproach, we go outside, wipping start , the dialog appears and... 4) nothing happends after. Herran and master keeps next to me. Used timewait 24 hrs and nothing. First install i got a message "this device (boot) requieres HDT" , i FIXED WITH http://www.nexusmods...im/mods/36213/? BUT NOT SURE if it is the correct mod. Hi, I have same problem as him. Now I tried some more stuff in order to try and unbug it. I selected Master in console, then when the scene "froze" (=nothing happens) I have used disable and then enable on master (I selected her before going outside, cause when using enable/disable on Herran didn't help). What happens is that it repeats the last line of dialoge, so its going in loop. For examaple when you are outside and then you get punished, master says that it will let you in the hands of Herran. After it nothing happens. Using disable/enable command on master makes dialog "So have you had enough?" pop up again. Herran part of scene doesn't even kick in. I can do this basically infinite times, no matter which dialogue option I take. It will always end in master not leaving and standing there. Same goes for other punishment option. If you want me to do anything to help debug this please say, I would like to help as much as I can. Also ty for this great mod. I really like it. EDIT: I also had to install HTD after it, but now I tried on completely new save and the same problem occurred (with HTD being running same time as your mod). Other mods should be up to date considering I reinstalled everything 3 days ago + I am subscribed to new updates.
Veladarius Posted May 16, 2014 Author Posted May 16, 2014 Help anybody. Tested on a virgin save. 1) Took the recovery quest. 2) Trigger the fail delivery. 3) Master pissed off, go nude , Herran aproach, we go outside, wipping start , the dialog appears and... 4) nothing happends after. Herran and master keeps next to me. Used timewait 24 hrs and nothing. First install i got a message "this device (boot) requieres HDT" , i FIXED WITH http://www.nexusmods...im/mods/36213/? BUT NOT SURE if it is the correct mod. Hi, I have same problem as him. Now I tried some more stuff in order to try and unbug it. I selected Master in console, then when the scene "froze" (=nothing happens) I have used disable and then enable on master (I selected her before going outside, cause when using enable/disable on Herran didn't help). What happens is that it repeats the last line of dialoge, so its going in loop. For examaple when you are outside and then you get punished, master says that it will let you in the hands of Herran. After it nothing happens. Using disable/enable command on master makes dialog "So have you had enough?" pop up again. Herran part of scene doesn't even kick in. I can do this basically infinite times, no matter which dialogue option I take. It will always end in master not leaving and standing there. Same goes for other punishment option. If you want me to do anything to help debug this please say, I would like to help as much as I can. Also ty for this great mod. I really like it. EDIT: I also had to install HTD after it, but now I tried on completely new save and the same problem occurred (with HTD being running same time as your mod). Other mods should be up to date considering I reinstalled everything 3 days ago + I am subscribed to new updates. Something is interfering with the NPC's. The Master is supposed to go back inside then Herran will walk off.
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