genericuser27 Posted August 31, 2024 Posted August 31, 2024 4 hours ago, pillowpatroll said: ChatGPT is notoriously prude with their models, the jailbreak community has found some ways to prompt around them though. I would recommend looking up models that are relatively unscensored though, since then you do not have to worry about writing a combersome jailbreak prompt that might (Most likely WILL) break an inopportune times. how do I find those models to work with mantella? Thanks for the response!
pillowpatroll Posted August 31, 2024 Posted August 31, 2024 21 minutes ago, genericuser27 said: how do I find those models to work with mantella? Thanks for the response! Honestly, googling and using reddit! Best way is to search for NSFW LLM's or such. I am currently looking into a good option for this myself, and I can update when I find a good model. 1
In5inite Posted August 31, 2024 Posted August 31, 2024 So, if we could get the API key to GirlfriendGPT it is the best NSFW model I have found. At this point it doesn't have an API interface it's just a webpage.
pillowpatroll Posted September 1, 2024 Posted September 1, 2024 2 hours ago, genericuser27 said: how do I find those models to work with mantella? Thanks for the response! The best I've found is nousresearch/hermes-3-llama-3.1-405b, which is slightly diferent from the model recommended by the modder, but that model seems to be down for the moment.
pillowpatroll Posted September 1, 2024 Posted September 1, 2024 It seems that the latest version of Mantella does infact not work with the current version of this mod, sad to say. Switching to the latest version of mantella did fix some bugs for me, so I am excited to see if we get an updated version of MinAI sometime soon.
dynamo-swamp Posted September 1, 2024 Posted September 1, 2024 (edited) There are a bunch of models to use on openrouter, in general you want the largest possible model with the longest context window for best consistency with all the constraints. Min's DD prompt seems geared towards slow build up. This makes a lot of sense for someone using actual toys to interface with Skryim and the NPC. NPCs can go really wild with the keywords which could prove really uncomfortable with real devices. But you may get more frequent response if you edit the config text or the specific NPC description in Mantella's .CSV. Hermes Nous 405B extended is still my favorite, but there's only one provider and its free so it goes down or becomes unresponsive a lot. I use the non-extended version as the backup. Here's some decent alternate models I tested with a few prompts- nousresearch/hermes-3-llama-3.1-405b cognitivecomputations/dolphin-mixtral-8x22b microsoft/wizardlm-2-8x22b cohere/command-r-plus nousresearch/nous-hermes-2-mixtral-8x7b-dpo People also use alpindale/goliath-120b for NSFW writing but it's terrible at prompt consistency/constraints in my experience so far. There's a lot of discussion on reddit (r/localLlama) of roleplay models and writing that might be helpful if you want to branch out, and of course there are the huggingface leaderboards and discussion and discords and so on. There are no abliterated models on openrouter as far as I can see, but I still get good NSFW outputs and decent consistency with the Mantella/MinAI keywords with these. Edited September 1, 2024 by dynamo-swamp
Min Posted September 2, 2024 Author Posted September 2, 2024 (edited) Hey folks - I'm aware that mantella 0.12 has released, and that this isn't currently compatible - I'll be issuing an update in the next couple days. In the meantime, I'd suggest using the previous version of Mantella. It is savegame backwards compatible according to the mantella devs, so it should be seamless to upgrade once I've updated this. Edited September 2, 2024 by Min 4
pillowpatroll Posted September 2, 2024 Posted September 2, 2024 11 minutes ago, Min said: Hey folks - I'm aware that mantella 0.12 has released, and that this isn't currently compatible - I'll be issuing an update in the next couple days. In the meantime, I'd suggest using the previous version of Mantella. It is savegame backwards compatible according to the mantella devs, so it should be seamless to upgrade once I've updated this. We love an active dev! You are the best Min. By the way, I am struggling with no keywords activating any actions. Characters say things like -undress- -startsex- and -gear- but no corresponding actions occur. Nobody else seems to have the same issue. Tried reinstalling everything and deactivating all but the relevant mods but it still does not seem to want to work?
Min Posted September 2, 2024 Author Posted September 2, 2024 1 hour ago, pillowpatroll said: We love an active dev! You are the best Min. By the way, I am struggling with no keywords activating any actions. Characters say things like -undress- -startsex- and -gear- but no corresponding actions occur. Nobody else seems to have the same issue. Tried reinstalling everything and deactivating all but the relevant mods but it still does not seem to want to work? 🤔 That can only mean that either the mod events aren't being sent from Mantella, or that my script isn't running to receive them. Make sure that you're running the older version of mantella, and that this mod's scripts aren't being overwritten by anything.
pillowpatroll Posted September 2, 2024 Posted September 2, 2024 7 hours ago, Min said: 🤔 That can only mean that either the mod events aren't being sent from Mantella, or that my script isn't running to receive them. Make sure that you're running the older version of mantella, and that this mod's scripts aren't being overwritten by anything. Did some more testing, and it seems even events that are included in base Mantella such as -gear- did not trigger either. Gotta go scrounge around in my scripts and check out the documentation of the other mod. Thanks you for the input tho! Really excited for the next update of this mod!
adsjfnnnewuandsnfffffdmvnd Posted September 2, 2024 Posted September 2, 2024 I'm trying to get an old version of Mantella for this but I can't find it on the nexus page. Anyone know where I can get it?
FrostyTactics Posted September 2, 2024 Posted September 2, 2024 51 minutes ago, adsjfnnnewuandsnfffffdmvnd said: I'm trying to get an old version of Mantella for this but I can't find it on the nexus page. Anyone know where I can get it? https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/98631?tab=files&file_id=464436 Here's the direct link to version 0.10.1. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/articles/6847 This is the guide if you ever want to download archived mods in the future. 2
Loopdeloop Posted September 2, 2024 Posted September 2, 2024 (edited) The mod doesn't trigger any Sexlab or SL approach animations for me, what I get is a dialogue description of the npc's actions instead, of 'pinching nipples' etc. Edited September 2, 2024 by Loopdeloop
Min Posted September 2, 2024 Author Posted September 2, 2024 Beta6 Refactored for Mantella 0.12 compatibility.. Added stop vibrate keywords back, had accidentally removed them. Further tweaks to chastity prompt. Tweaks to the spank rule prompt for DF. Changed default model to cohere/command-r-plus. This model produces excellent output with low latency while following the prompts very well, but is a fair bit pricier to use. If you want to pay less, consider one of the alternative models discussed in this thread. I've also uploaded a "free / slow" config utilizing the Hermes model which also does reasonably well, and is free. 1
pillowpatroll Posted September 2, 2024 Posted September 2, 2024 Woah that was fast! Thank you for the update Min! 1
Min Posted September 2, 2024 Author Posted September 2, 2024 3 hours ago, Loopdeloop said: The mod doesn't trigger any Sexlab or SL approach animations for me, what I get is a dialogue description of the npc's actions instead, of 'pinching nipples' etc. That's not a lot of information to go off of. Which model are you using? What version of Mantella? Any relevant errors in the logs?
Loopdeloop Posted September 2, 2024 Posted September 2, 2024 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Min said: That's not a lot of information to go off of. Which model are you using? What version of Mantella? Any relevant errors in the logs? I tried Llama Hermes 70b on the old Mantella version with no actual errors in the logs or console window. However, I've updated to the new Mantella version and installed your updated mod (thanks btw!). I can't find the config.ini, though. (Edit - Nevermind, I just copy pasted the info into the new Mantella UI). Edited September 2, 2024 by Loopdeloop
HBoo Posted September 2, 2024 Posted September 2, 2024 🥰 Thanks for the great update. And about the model, I don't know how it will be applied, but the 08-2024 model costs exactly the same as the new version of GPT4o (it's cheaper). So if you change the model like this, it will be 33% cheaper than the old model. cohere/command-r-plus-08-2024 (with "-08-2024" added at the end) I'll test it! 1
Min Posted September 2, 2024 Author Posted September 2, 2024 15 minutes ago, pillowpatroll said: Yeah I am having the same issue, cant find the Config file. And there is info in there that I can't add into the new mantella UI It's in Documents/My Games/Mantella on the new version.
Min Posted September 2, 2024 Author Posted September 2, 2024 Updated the beta6 configs to set the recommended model to "cohere/command-r-plus-08-2024". Seems to work just as well at a lower cost. 2
HBoo Posted September 2, 2024 Posted September 2, 2024 Response Log: "content": "-kiss- -grope- -spankass- Ooh, I love a bit of resistance... Don't worry, I'll make it worth your while! Mmm, such soft lips... and that body..." Everything works perfectly fine. However, I think we should add a guideline that a keyword can only be used once per answer. "However, you can't use multiple keywords at the same time." "You can only use a keyword once in a single answer." Of course, it also worked well with multiple keywords appearing at the same time. Anyway, everything seems to be working perfectly fine, now I just need to improve the prompts and I'll be able to enjoy the Skyrim I want 🤣
Mortox Posted September 2, 2024 Posted September 2, 2024 Hello. First of all, I must admit as a LLM enthusiast I really love the concept and I would like to play around with the mod very much! I'm writing with an issue though. Just like Loopdeloop above I get only the descriptions of things going in Skyrim instead of triggering spanking/sexlab scenes. They use the keywords like -spank- -undress- and refer to the weather so I guess the mod is working in general. I use the latest Mantella from Nexus. I use the latest MinAI (beta6) with high quality config. I tried different LLMs from OpenRouter - only those mentioned on this page though - they SAY dirty things, so I guess this part is working, but nothing "happens" in the game, just the NPCs talking. I was reading through the topic and found you asking if there are following entries in the log: Quote [08/26/2024 - 03:52:24PM] [minai] Checking for installed mods... [08/26/2024 - 03:52:24PM] [minai] Found Devious Devices [08/26/2024 - 03:52:24PM] [minai] Found Devious Followers [08/26/2024 - 03:52:24PM] [minai] dftools=[_dftools <_DFtools (AE01210D)>] [08/26/2024 - 03:52:24PM] [minai] Found Spank That Ass [08/26/2024 - 03:52:24PM] [minai] Found Sexlab Aroused [08/26/2024 - 03:52:24PM] [minai] Found BaboDialogue [08/26/2024 - 03:52:24PM] [minai] Found SLHH [08/26/2024 - 03:52:24PM] [minai] Found SLApp [08/26/2024 - 03:52:24PM] [minai] Initialization complete. What log are you referring to? I have checked Mantella log - no such entries. Mantella console log - no such entries. In-game console log - no such entires. My Papyrus.0.Log in My Games/Skyrim - no such entries. In my Papyrus.0.Log there are following errors when I search "minai": Quote Error: Unable to link type of variable "libs" on object "minai_mainquestcontroller" Error: Unable to link types associated with function "Maintenance" in state "" on object "minai_mainquestcontroller". Error: Unable to link type of variable "::MainQuestController_var" on object "minai_PlayerScript" Error: Unable to link type of property "MainQuestController" on object "minai_PlayerScript" warning: Property MainQuestController on script minai_PlayerScript attached to alias playerREF on quest minai_MainController (FE102802) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property And a number of different other errors/warnings. Could you please point me in the direction I should investigate in order to fix the issues?
Min Posted September 2, 2024 Author Posted September 2, 2024 2 minutes ago, Mortox said: Hello. First of all, I must admit as a LLM enthusiast I really love the concept and I would like to play around with the mod very much! I'm writing with an issue though. Just like Loopdeloop above I get only the descriptions of things going in Skyrim instead of triggering spanking/sexlab scenes. They use the keywords like -spank- -undress- and refer to the weather so I guess the mod is working in general. I use the latest Mantella from Nexus. I use the latest MinAI (beta6) with high quality config. I tried different LLMs from OpenRouter - only those mentioned on this page though - they SAY dirty things, so I guess this part is working, but nothing "happens" in the game, just the NPCs talking. I was reading through the topic and found you asking if there are following entries in the log: What log are you referring to? I have checked Mantella log - no such entries. Mantella console log - no such entries. In-game console log - no such entires. My Papyrus.0.Log in My Games/Skyrim - no such entries. In my Papyrus.0.Log there are following errors when I search "minai": And a number of different other errors/warnings. Could you please point me in the direction I should investigate in order to fix the issues? I was referring to the Papyrus.0.log. Something pretty strange is happening in your game. If you're seeing the -keywords- it's not an LLM issue, it's an issue on the Skyrim side. I think your install of this mod is messed up somehow. How did you install it? What mod manager are you using? Can you validate that all of the scripts are in the right path?
Mortox Posted September 3, 2024 Posted September 3, 2024 46 minutes ago, Min said: I was referring to the Papyrus.0.log. Something pretty strange is happening in your game. If you're seeing the -keywords- it's not an LLM issue, it's an issue on the Skyrim side. I think your install of this mod is messed up somehow. How did you install it? What mod manager are you using? Can you validate that all of the scripts are in the right path? I'm using Vortex and I can confirm that everything is installed correctly - checked the files in the Data folders.
stnfnk Posted September 3, 2024 Posted September 3, 2024 Make sure MinAI beta6 is overwriting Mantella v12. It needs the edited script to make the action keywords work.
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