MinAI - AI (SFW/NSFW) for CHIM

[Min]

2 hours ago, orclover said:

Using Ostim+Mantella.  Is there a secret to getting the animations to change using the text box?  I am able to start the sex scene with the NPC asking for sex but it is not changing positions due to prompts.  Thanks. 

 

Edit: I am able to get handjob and blowjob working based on keywords.  Are there other keywords that initiate different sex positions for ostim/mantella?

 

 

There are, and a lot more are being added in beta27 once I release it. Will write up documentation for this then.

[crazyduck]

18 minutes ago, Min said:

I like Command R+, but it's one of the pricier models. It performs extremely well at rp, function calling, and being consistent. Try asking on the AI-FF discord. There are a bunch of users there discussing this. 

 

Nearly 100% of user problems with the AI behaving strangely are LLM related, and are caused by either a bad prompt, or a bad model.

^So about the Prompt, is something special needed in the prompt or can i write a regular prompt for the llm? And other question if i want to rent a room how do i do that? Do i simply need to ask the inkeeper that i want to rent a room or do i somehow include a keyword in my question and if yes how do i include keywords in my own sentences?

[Min]

I'm going to stop responding to questions about LLM behavior for the time being until I write up a guide for this. Try the AIFF discord. Lots of passionate users there who are more knowledgeable about the basics of how this works.

[crazyduck]

38 minutes ago, Min said:

I'm going to stop responding to questions about LLM behavior for the time being until I write up a guide for this. Try the AIFF discord. Lots of passionate users there who are more knowledgeable about the basics of how this works.

Works now after switching to this model meta-llama/llama-3.1-8b-instruct

[Prizbiggie]

1 hour ago, Min said:

That's a problem with the model or prompt you're using, not AIFF or this mod. 

I left AiFF unmodified after installing it and your mod according to the tutorial. My Aiff experience was raw. I also tested it on 3 different llms and result was the same

[orclover]

1 hour ago, Min said:

 

There are, and a lot more are being added in beta27 once I release it. Will write up documentation for this then.

Thank you. I was just horning out last week on mantella using hermes 405b free and it was amazing and I was just day dreaming about the ability of the llm to choose the positions instead of having to ask them what they want and then find it on ostim....this is amazing.  I hope you continue to support mantella/ostim.  A message from the poors, after quite a bit of testing it is hard to find a model that is free and supports json actions, and seems to work well with minai.  On top of this it is hard to use xtts without runpod, which costs as well.  Hopefully Ai FF finds a way to offer more llms through the json action system, I suppose they will since development seems very active.  I know it seems smart to support AI FF but mantella can be used effectively completely free with high quality models, at least right now.  

Edited September 22, 2024 by orclover

[Azailahab]

Just want to share in case anyone else has same issue. 

 

Sure it may be written somewhere, but I had a devil of a time getting this to work once I rebuilt my list. I cleared all my old saves carefully setup my modlist and loadorder, and after clicking new game, blamo nothing CTD time. 

 

Spent a day or so troubleshooting only to find the answer is pretty simple. 

 

Enable the AI-FF and MinAI mods in MO2 AFTER you have a save game. Work great no problems now.

[Min]

26 minutes ago, Azailahab said:

Just want to share in case anyone else has same issue. 

 

Sure it may be written somewhere, but I had a devil of a time getting this to work once I rebuilt my list. I cleared all my old saves carefully setup my modlist and loadorder, and after clicking new game, blamo nothing CTD time. 

 

Spent a day or so troubleshooting only to find the answer is pretty simple. 

 

Enable the AI-FF and MinAI mods in MO2 AFTER you have a save game. Work great no problems now.

You can have MinAI enabled on a new game, but not AIFF.  It's a known issue on their mod page. Thank you for sharing for other users!  

[Min]

48 minutes ago, orclover said:

Thank you. I was just horning out last week on mantella using hermes 405b free and it was amazing and I was just day dreaming about the ability of the llm to choose the positions instead of having to ask them what they want and then find it on ostim....this is amazing.  I hope you continue to support mantella/ostim.  A message from the poors, after quite a bit of testing it is hard to find a model that is free and supports json actions, and seems to work well with minai.  On top of this it is hard to use xtts without runpod, which costs as well.  Hopefully Ai FF finds a way to offer more llms through the json action system, I suppose they will since development seems very active.  I know it seems smart to support AI FF but mantella can be used effectively completely free with high quality models, at least right now.  

 

As both a user (That doesn't mind spending a bit) and a developer, AIFF is eons ahead of mantella in terms of functionality, and ease of development. I do intend to continue supporting Mantella, but the majority of my development focus for new features will be on AI-FF.

 

It's so much easier to add powerful features to AI-FF. The developers of AI-FF are very friendly to this type of content as well. 

Edited September 22, 2024 by Min

[orclover]

1 hour ago, Min said:

 

As both a user (That doesn't mind spending a bit) and a developer, AIFF is eons ahead of mantella in terms of functionality, and ease of development. I do intend to continue supporting Mantella, but the majority of my development focus for new features will be on AI-FF.

 

It's so much easier to add powerful features to AI-FF. The developers of AI-FF are very friendly to this type of content as well. 

Well said, I am just grateful that you are spending your dev time on such a project, thank you.  

[Min]

Beta27

• CBPC collisions with sensitive locations now increase actor arousal on self, or others. You can now get the AI in the mood. Will gate this behind some sort of a relationship check or something in the future.
• Add optional MCM configurable Arousal requirements for Sex actions. The LLM will not be made aware of sex actions unless the NPC's arousal level exceeds a configurable threshold.
• Add optional MCM configurable Arousal requirements for Harass/Flirty actions (hug/grope/kiss/etc). The LLM will not be made aware of these actions unless the NPC's arousal level exceeds a configurable threshold.
• Added the start of NFF integration. Currently has two new commands: "Start looting" and "Stop looting"
• Started to be more selective about what actions are exposed to NPC's. Many of the default AI-FF actions are now disabled unless the NPC is a follower. Configurable in config.php
• Fix condition bug with Devious Narrator for Deviously Accessible
• Added many new different sex types that the LLM can start with, or transition between: Cum on Chest, Deep Throat, Rimjob, Fingering, Vampire, JFoot job, Boob job, CUnnilingus, and Facial.
• Tweaked sex prompts a bit to try to make the LLM use them at better times by adding "Immediately" to the prompt to instruct the LLM that this starts sex instantly.
• Improved Sexlab animation selector to eliminate lesbian animations in M->F scenes, and gay animations in M->F scenes.
• Added ability to override prompt head for all NPC's in config.php

Edited September 23, 2024 by Min

[Min]

29 minutes ago, orclover said:

Well said, I am just grateful that you are spending your dev time on such a project, thank you.  

No problem! I'm having fun with it. 

 

Here's the list of all supported sex tags for Mantella:

  

Quote

  -masturbate-
  -startsex-   -sex-   -fuck-
  -vaginalsex-
  -analsex-
  -blowjob-
  -handjob-
  -footjob-
  -boobjob-
  -cunnilingus-
  -facial-
  -cumonchest-
  -rubbingclitoris-
  -deepthroat-
  -rimjob-
  -fingering-
  -vampirebite-
  -groupsex-
  -orgy-
  -threesome-
  -cuddling-
  -frenchkissing-
  

 

Edited September 23, 2024 by Min

[orclover]

46 minutes ago, Min said:

No problem! I'm having fun with it. 

 

Here's the list of all supported sex tags for Mantella:

  

 

Thank you. I swear it sometimes matches animation to request like "ride me" but might be anecdotal. I just got AiFF working as intended and I totally understand where you are coming from with the AI being able to match requests with animations which is cool.  Does seem a lot more "out of control" than mantella, almost like there is too much freedom which I am sure can be fixed with prompts.  NPCS are constantly ending scenes verbally but the sex doesn't end, then they come back in and want more even though the scene never ended, then I manually end the scene and they immediately want to start a new one...narrator keeps telling me to do something else other than sex.  Still absolutely revolutionary and unimaginable that it actually works.  Thanks

[kimye1983]

I am thoroughly enjoying using your amazing mods. Thank you for that. I have one question. When NPCs say '-spank-', they only say it and do not actually perform the action. Also, in both cases where they say '-hug-' or '-kiss-', the  kiss animation plays. The hug scene does not play. I am currently using Baka SLAP version 3.12 and Spank That Ass version 4.7. MINAI is continuously updated to the latest version. Could you provide any advice on the cause of this issue?

Edited September 23, 2024 by kimye1983

[Min]

12 minutes ago, kimye1983 said:

I am thoroughly enjoying using your amazing mods. Thank you for that. I have one question. When NPCs say '-spank-', they only say it and do not actually perform the action. Also, in both cases where they say '-hug-' or '-kiss-', the  kiss animation plays. The hug scene does not play. I am currently using Baka SLAP version 3.12 and Spank That Ass version 4.7. MINAI is continuously updated to the latest version. Could you provide any advice on the cause of this issue?

The current -spank- implementation actually has an additional dependency on Devious Followers that it probably shouldn't. I'll fix that at some point. I'm going to revisit the whole spank event soon anyways, and will fix this then.

 

For hug and kiss, it looks like the code is actually the same. Oops. Will fix that.

 

Edited September 23, 2024 by Min

[MysticDaedra]

2 hours ago, Min said:

No problem! I'm having fun with it. 

 

Here's the list of all supported sex tags for Mantella:

  

 

Could you add some sort of... milking or breast suck or something in a future update? Would essentially be lite MME support, as you could ask NPCs to milk your character. Currently asking them to milk you or suck your boobs does seem to start animations fairly consistently, but it's just a random animation, not a breast specific animation. Or it does a boob job if it's a male character, which doesn't trigger the MME milking effect.

[JabsTheGoon]

On 8/25/2024 at 10:20 PM, Min said:

If the player can convince the NPC to do so, they will have sex with the player. NPC's can also convince eachother to have sex.

I had one of my most memorable encounters with any NPC, anywhere this week. 
My current game is also using Conquest of Skyrim, and I started a conversation with Nenya (The Altmer woman, Jarl Siddgeir's Steward in Falkreath) initially to start talking smack about how she was going to be out of a job soon... 

But she apparently had other plans!

 

Quote

Me: You serve under Sidghir and Dengir before him, yes? You're the steward?

Nenya: That's correct, I'm the steward here in Falkreath. I served under Jarl Dengeir when he was young, and now I serve his nephew Siddgeir. I do my best to keep things running smoothly and ensure the people are treated fairly.
Me: I like your attitude. The war is coming. What will you do if Falkreath changes hands?

Nenya: If the Stormcloaks manage to take Falkreath, I'll have no choice but to flee with Siddgeir and Helvard. We'd likely take refuge in Solitude under Jarl Elisif. But enough about the war, I noticed you eyeing my amulet. Perhaps we could come to an arrangement?

Me: My question is what if it's not the storm cloaks?
 

Nenya: If it's not the Stormcloaks... -undress- Well, I suppose that would depend on who takes control. But let's not dwell on such unpleasant thoughts. It's been a long day and I could use some relaxation.

Me: I could use some relaxation also, but what if it's me?

Nenya: -sex- -kiss- Well then, I suppose we'll have to find out just how relaxing I can make it for you. Let's start with a kiss and see where things go from there, shall we?

Me: Yes, let's start there and see where things go

Nenya: -pinchnipples- Mmm, you have such a sexy body. I can't wait to explore every inch of it. Let's start by giving these perky nipples a little pinch.

Me: Ouch, okay.

Nenya: Apologies if I pinched too hard. Let me make it up to you with some gentle kisses and caresses. I want to worship your gorgeous body. *Nenya equipped calyps strapon* 

Me: Oh, that's a good start. I like that.

Nenya: Mmm, you taste divine. I could spend hours just kissing and licking every inch of your soft fur. But I think it's time we take things to the next level. -sex- Let's see how well this strap-on fits inside you.

Me: Oh, it fits very well. Very well indeed.

Nenya: You feel so tight and warm around my strap-on. (Editor's note: LOL) I love the way you moan as I thrust deeper inside you. Let's keep going until we both reach an incredible climax together.

Me: *T'asha had an Orgasm* *Nenya had an Orgasm* I like it there, I like it there.

Nenya: Mmm, I can feel your orgasm rippling through you. -kiss- That was amazing. You were incredible. Let's collapse into each other's arms and bask in the afterglow of our passion.

Me: That was amazing and completely, completely unexpected. This Khajiit looks forward to taking Falkreath with my army.

Nenya: I'm glad you enjoyed it as much as I did. Taking Falkreath with your army sounds like quite the ambitious endeavor. I wish you the best of luck with that. But for now, let's savor this moment of bliss together.

I'm here to talk smack and she decided independently and autonomously to take me to bed - in the Jarl's bed no less!

 

Edited September 23, 2024 by JabsTheGoon

[Prizbiggie]

Im experimenting with something that could potentially have more control over ai. In mantella's config, for every sexual keyword I've assigned a minimal sexual arousal % for them to use that keyword. Example:

 

!If {name} has sexual arousal above (30%) and wants to kiss {player_name}, include the keyword: '-kiss-' in your response.!

 

Going to check today if it works and report the results here. 

 

But is it best to put !If {name} has sexual arousal above 30 percent and wants to

or

!If {name} has above 30%(sexual arousal) and wants to

?

Edited September 23, 2024 by Prizbiggie

[AliRenegade]

This is probably gonna be an odd question but could you make it so AI can interact with Devourment too and also Fertility Mode?

[Min]

3 hours ago, Prizbiggie said:

Im experimenting with something that could potentially have more control over ai. In mantella's config, for every sexual keyword I've assigned a minimal sexual arousal % for them to use that keyword. Example:

 

!If {name} has sexual arousal above (30%) and wants to kiss {player_name}, include the keyword: '-kiss-' in your response.!

 

Going to check today if it works and report the results here. 

 

But is it best to put !If {name} has sexual arousal above 30 percent and wants to

or

!If {name} has above 30%(sexual arousal) and wants to

?

 

LLM's are *very* bad at following these types of instructions consistently (Though the stronger ones do okay at it sometimes). I played with this approach. It's better to dynamically make the keywords like kiss/etc available (or not) in the prompt, like I'm doing for the AIFF implementation. We can't do that in Mantella.

[Prizbiggie]

32 minutes ago, Min said:

 

LLM's are *very* bad at following these types of instructions consistently (Though the stronger ones do okay at it sometimes). I played with this approach. It's better to dynamically make the keywords like kiss/etc available (or not) in the prompt, like I'm doing for the AIFF implementation. We can't do that in Mantella.

Hmmm. And what about sexual arousal % overall? I hardly noticed it at work. Does the ai even recognize the difference between 20% sexual arousal and 90%? Any script that follows up on that mechanic? I would love to make it work somehow that when I speak to someone below 50% they wouldnt be all flirty and stuff. But if above 50% they would start flirting and after 70% they would become suggestive. 

Any idea how I could make that work?

 

Edit: Well, this is odd. I just saw you released beta27 and saw the notes XDDDD. Seems like you had same idea as me at the same time XDDDDD. Ill install it now and test it.

 

But still have to think of something to make NPCs less flirty if below 50%. Even if the certain actions are only allowed above a certain %, they still appear very horny even at 20%. Any idea how to balance that out?

 

Or does that "appears in prompt after % reached" only work for AIFF and not for Mantella?

Edited September 24, 2024 by Prizbiggie

[Min]

33 minutes ago, Prizbiggie said:

Hmmm. And what about sexual arousal % overall? I hardly noticed it at work. Does the ai even recognize the difference between 20% sexual arousal and 90%? Any script that follows up on that mechanic? I would love to make it work somehow that when I speak to someone below 50% they wouldnt be all flirty and stuff. But if above 50% they would start flirting and after 70% they would become suggestive. 

Any idea how I could make that work?

 

Edit: Well, this is odd. I just saw you released beta27 and saw the notes XDDDD. Seems like you had same idea as me at the same time XDDDDD. Ill install it now and test it.

 

But still have to think of something to make NPCs less flirty if below 50%. Even if the certain actions are only allowed above a certain %, they still appear very horny even at 20%. Any idea how to balance that out?

 

Or does that "appears in prompt after % reached" only work for AIFF and not for Mantella?

 

Only works for AI-FF. I don't have the capability in Mantella to adjust that dynamically.

Edited September 24, 2024 by Min

[wolfbread]

On Mantella and just seeing what happens with radiant dialogue in the Drunken Huntsman. The short version is all keyword actions seem to target me.  Elrindir wants to hug and kiss Jenassa, but he teleports to me with the animation. Jenassa later returns his affections with a hug, but she teleports and starts the animation with me. Ahlam complains to Anoriath that Nazeem is never around and is lonely, so Anoriath suggests blowing out her back walls and she agrees, but she teleports to me and we start a sex scene.

Do you know if this is Mantella, the LLM or something with the scripts?

[Prizbiggie]

Just now, Min said:

 

Only works for AI-FF. I don't have the capability in Mantella to adjust that dynamically.

Damm that sucks. Well Ill keep trying to figure out what I can do about Ai using keywords only once it reaches certain % in Mantella. Maybe something might work

[Min]

11 minutes ago, wolfbread said:

On Mantella and just seeing what happens with radiant dialogue in the Drunken Huntsman. The short version is all keyword actions seem to target me.  Elrindir wants to hug and kiss Jenassa, but he teleports to me with the animation. Jenassa later returns his affections with a hug, but she teleports and starts the animation with me. Ahlam complains to Anoriath that Nazeem is never around and is lonely, so Anoriath suggests blowing out her back walls and she agrees, but she teleports to me and we start a sex scene.

Do you know if this is Mantella, the LLM or something with the scripts?

 

Hug / kiss are using Sexlab Approach for their implementation at present, which is NPC -> player only. I am going to revisit these in the future once I find a replacement mod I like to use instead