Binding

[Lazy Palm]

2 hours ago, gregorian112 said:

I am using version 0.1.10, though I see it's a bit old now looking at the thread.

 

Yeah, I planning on getting one of these 0.3.x versions up as the main download as soon as I can get some bugs worked out.  If you disable the pre-enslavement quests (can't remember where that is on the old mcm) it SHOULD make that problem you have having go away.  Might be under the events tab of the binding mcm? or maybe preferences??  Let me know if it is not obvious where, I can pull up the code from that version and check.

[jouda1212]

Hello, i would like to ask strange question. With pretty old version 0.2.01 prev. 2.6, i somehow (probably some glitch around killing dragon) managed to make mod in passive state, when does nothing, and for action key respond "Kneeing disabled (mod suspended)". Diagnose displays no event running, "DHLP Disable = Yes", and even safeword write something with "mod disabled".

(And, nowhere in menu i can find anything similar to enable.) Is there chance to re-enable mod from console?

 

Edit: is it possible it was caused by some other mod (DCL quest)?

Edited April 23, 2025 by jouda1212

[Talesien]

51 minutes ago, jouda1212 said:

Hello, i would like to ask strange question. With pretty old version 0.2.01 prev. 2.6, i somehow (probably some glitch around killing dragon) managed to make mod in passive state, when does nothing, and for action key respond "Kneeing disabled (mod suspended)". Diagnose displays no event running, "DHLP Disable = Yes", and even safeword write something with "mod disabled".

(And, nowhere in menu i can find anything similar to enable.) Is there chance to re-enable mod from console?

 

Edit: is it possible it was caused by some other mod (DCL quest)?

If a mod sends a DHLP event, all other mods that check for it will (or at least should) stop all activities that could interfere. Since it's only on/off with no granularity, for most mods, including Binding, that means basically to stop everything. So yes, if DCL toggles DHLP on for its quests (don't remember if it does, it certainly tends not to honor DHLPs from other mods), that would shut down Bindings (and many other mods) until the quest finishes.

Edited April 23, 2025 by Talesien

[Kargano01]

On 4/22/2025 at 2:10 AM, Lazy Palm said:

 

Did you try setting that quest to active and see if puts a marker over the furniture?  I switched it to use the furniture you last had the crosshair on, you will see a "this furniture looks interesting" type message.  Still trying to work through the best detection places / mechanisms since I pulled out kneeling as being required during speech (used to run all of the checks at the kneel).

 

Once I have everything "working", I am going invest most of my energy on getting the logging tightened up so I can get a better idea where stuff is going off of the rails.

 

Thanks for bearing with me as I work out the bugs and thanks for all of the details.  This will be helpful to go over!

 

And glad you like the camping changes!

 

 

Hello, i have the same behavior. It looks like the kneeling Animation was not stopped before. Or has a higher Priority. And yes, i used the marker to get the correct device. I use 0.3.11 Version
 

But overall, allways a greate Work. Thx

Edited April 23, 2025 by Kargano01

[gregorian112]

15 hours ago, Lazy Palm said:

 

Yeah, I planning on getting one of these 0.3.x versions up as the main download as soon as I can get some bugs worked out.  If you disable the pre-enslavement quests (can't remember where that is on the old mcm) it SHOULD make that problem you have having go away.  Might be under the events tab of the binding mcm? or maybe preferences??  Let me know if it is not obvious where, I can pull up the code from that version and check.

Just by downloading the latest preview version it fixed the problem. Thanks!

[equasym19]

15 hours ago, Lazy Palm said:

 

Yeah, I planning on getting one of these 0.3.x versions up as the main download as soon as I can get some bugs worked out.  If you disable the pre-enslavement quests (can't remember where that is on the old mcm) it SHOULD make that problem you have having go away.  Might be under the events tab of the binding mcm? or maybe preferences??  Let me know if it is not obvious where, I can pull up the code from that version and check.

When you do that, please also annotate in the file description what is working in that version, as (at least) I am confused what is still in 0.3.x, what had to be sacrificed to reach the current state and what got added

[Lazy Palm]

0.3.12 preview

 

Fixed:

• Added back the player defeated enslavement quest (this is a first draft - could be issues)
• Fixed state issue in Put On Display that was preventing kneeling by furniture
• Fixed overlapping DHLP issue in Dairy quest and added a leaving the furniture milk check and some other code safeguards.

 

Binding 0.3.12 preview.7z

[Lazy Palm]

8 hours ago, Kargano01 said:

 

 

Hello, i have the same behavior. It looks like the kneeling Animation was not stopped before. Or has a higher Priority. And yes, i used the marker to get the correct device. I use 0.3.11 Version
 

But overall, allways a greate Work. Thx

 

Hopefully this 0.3.12 version fixes the problem.  Let me know!

[Lazy Palm]

1 hour ago, equasym19 said:

When you do that, please also annotate in the file description what is working in that version, as (at least) I am confused what is still in 0.3.x, what had to be sacrificed to reach the current state and what got added

 

Will do.  My plan is to get feature parity with the old version (even if it works slightly differently), but I think I have been targeting the 0.2.x versions which have more features than the 0.1.x version that is posted on the mod page.

[dertcz]

2 hours ago, Lazy Palm said:

0.3.12 preview

 

Fixed:

• Added back the player defeated enslavement quest (this is a first draft - could be issues)
• Fixed state issue in Put On Display that was preventing kneeling by furniture
• Fixed overlapping DHLP issue in Dairy quest and added a leaving the furniture milk check and some other code safeguards.

 

Binding 0.3.12 preview.7z 296.59 kB · 3 downloads

I don't know if this is just a problem with me. "Put On Display" working little different. I'm still kneeling, but Mistress is in furniture.

[rjn]

The gagged punishment for speaking without kneeling infraction is triggered when expected and runs the right time but no gag is equipped.

[Lazy Palm]

1 hour ago, dertcz said:

I don't know if this is just a problem with me. "Put On Display" working little different. I'm still kneeling, but Mistress is in furniture.

 

I have not seen that one before 🤣 Happen every time?

[Lazy Palm]

50 minutes ago, rjn said:

The gagged punishment for speaking without kneeling infraction is triggered when expected and runs the right time but no gag is equipped.

 

I bumped into this one before myself.  Started working on a new save.  I will peek at it again.  If it happens more than once, probably a bug.  Thanks for letting me know.

[Lazy Palm]

Messed up the action key in my last release (during quests).  Will push an update in a few minutes.

[dertcz]

1 hour ago, Lazy Palm said:

 

I have not seen that one before 🤣 Happen every time?

Only once. Then I loaded a clean save. I didn't see it again after that.

 

Starting quest look nice. It might be a good idea to set essential at teleport startup. I see starting quest, hear unequipping (with black screen) and after this dying sound and load last save. On the third attempt, I managed to progress and not die. Mistress stand in to a furniture (It just stands there, it doesn't get used.). Maybe placed she before PC.

[Kargano01]

5 hours ago, Lazy Palm said:

 

Hopefully this 0.3.12 version fixes the problem.  Let me know!

Many thy. But it was still the same. This time in Whiterun on the Branding Device of Doom. Just Kneeling.

Also i dit not get tdialog to Enter or Leave the Castle and the Inn. Both rules arer active. But there is no dialog line. I allways see a Dialog line for Askin this Trainer, but there is no Trainer there. 
 

The kneeling Animation Issue was also there on Bound Sleep in the inn. 
 

Sorry for all.. But I LOVE your Mod. Cant await some more Adds after the Bug Fixing Process.. Thank you

[Lazy Palm]

0.3.13 preview

 

Fixed:

• Fixed action button issue created in the 0.3.12 (might have gotten introduced earlier).
• Added gold loss punishment option - mcm options for min/max/% under punishments tab

Binding 0.3.13 preview.7z

Edited April 23, 2025 by Lazy Palm

[Talesien]

39 minutes ago, Kargano01 said:

Many thy. But it was still the same. This time in Whiterun on the Branding Device of Doom. Just Kneeling.

Also i dit not get tdialog to Enter or Leave the Castle and the Inn. Both rules arer active. But there is no dialog line. I allways see a Dialog line for Askin this Trainer, but there is no Trainer there. 
 

The kneeling Animation Issue was also there on Bound Sleep in the inn. 
 

Sorry for all.. But I LOVE your Mod. Cant await some more Adds after the Bug Fixing Process.. Thank you

When you originally installed Bindings, that was on a new game or an existing save? I had a somewhat similar problem way back, when I first installed Bindings (on an existing save), went away on starting a new game.

[Lazy Palm]

1 hour ago, Kargano01 said:

Many thy. But it was still the same. This time in Whiterun on the Branding Device of Doom. Just Kneeling.

Also i dit not get tdialog to Enter or Leave the Castle and the Inn. Both rules arer active. But there is no dialog line. I allways see a Dialog line for Askin this Trainer, but there is no Trainer there. 
 

The kneeling Animation Issue was also there on Bound Sleep in the inn. 
 

Sorry for all.. But I LOVE your Mod. Cant await some more Adds after the Bug Fixing Process.. Thank you

 

If you hit the control panel under the MCM, it is it showing In Event as the status?

 

You need to be sure to look at the doors under your cross hairs before you talk to the dom for the entry/exit rules.  I REALLY need to add more help text to the mcm for everything.  Sorry about that!

 

Will look at the trainer rule dialogue and see if I can figure out what is up.

[Kargano01]

6 hours ago, Talesien said:

When you originally installed Bindings, that was on a new game or an existing save? I had a somewhat similar problem way back, when I first installed Bindings (on an existing save), went away on starting a new game.

Yes, it was 0.3.11 as i start a new game.. 

[Kargano01]

5 hours ago, Lazy Palm said:

 

If you hit the control panel under the MCM, it is it showing In Event as the status?

 

You need to be sure to look at the doors under your cross hairs before you talk to the dom for the entry/exit rules.  I REALLY need to add more help text to the mcm for everything.  Sorry about that!

 

Will look at the trainer rule dialogue and see if I can figure out what is up.

I know this .. I have "enter witherun" on the screen. go down to my knees, move te camera and speak to my Mistress. But there is no Line for exit. If i dont move the Camerea and press "e" the i leave the building.

 

About the Event. I was stripped and i became the Rope Harness and Gag and hoood, but i was not lying in Hogtie. I was just kneeling. On ja press on Jump. i was standing .

Edited April 24, 2025 by Kargano01

[Scautura]

Originally posted on Discord, but I'll post here so people can see what I've gone through, and if they've got similar issues. I did this testing on 0.3.11, but I'll repeat what I can on 0.3.13 when I can.

 

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Tell a lie, I found a suitable BFB save! So, here are thoughts, hopefully in a sensible fashion. In this case, my character is female, the dom is Lyris Titanborn (a mod follower who is generic, in the sense that she uses a normal AI package and voice and is by default imported into NFF), using Binding 0.3.11, DD NG 0.4.0, P+ 2.14.0, and possibly some other things that may cause conflicts (I'll share a modlist if needed):

 

• There's no suggestion of what to do at the word wall, even with the box ticked. I figured out having to kneel and activate the dom, which triggers the options to start the ritual (including conversation) or "just kneeling." Finishing the conversation ends up with my character getting stripped and blindfolded (if there's meant to be sex in there, it doesn't trigger; I feel like it's implied by the conversation?), then reading the wall tells me to kneel, and kneeling finishes the quest, so things seem to be in order. Unfortunately this is when a Draugr wakes up, so *possibly* this word wall could do with being treated in a special way, because the dom will get distracted with the enemy (although the blindfold removal and redressing still works at this point).
• "Souls from Bones" triggers after killing Mirmulnir and searching (I'm using Hunterborn, so there could be some weird interaction there, but it seems to Just Work:tm:) where the dom wants to speak. This starts the conversation that results in a set of stocks appearing, my character being stripped and gagged, then put in the set of stocks, and finally triggering a sex animation. It seems like this is the only sex scene (for me) where sex is actually triggered properly. It triggers the soul absorbing effect (and I think it adds another soul; not sure if it's intentional or a bug related to Mirmulnir's soul being absorbed and used for the Fus should learned in BFB), and when the scene is finished, my character is back in the stocks before being released, gag removed, and redressing.
• During the sex scene in the above, my character ended up having milk forced from her breasts, so earned a punishment. This seems a little counter-intuitive (and I'm aware it's been reported before, so I'm adding to the people suffering from this).
• "Dairy" doesn't always complete correctly (especially when being defiant? Need to test more) which then ends up with the red text of wanting to talk to you, but there's no way to "solve" that without safewording (which triggers the "finish" of Dairy; it's already been "finished" when you drink the lactacid). Even the action key is nonfunctional, without saying anything (at other times, it'll usually say something relevant in purple to explain why it isn't working). Also happens with voluntary drinking, and "Run Control" states "Binding Run State: IN EVENT" until safewording.
• "Put on Display" triggered in Dragonsreach, which I thought didn't have furniture (I'm using POP, so there's a Chandlier Hanging [sic] in the private cell) so got lost as to where I was going. This was compounded by the dom moving well away from it before the request was made. That was mitigated by the quest showing where to go (good thing!) Once kneeling by it, it took the dom a while to get there (teleported in the end; another good thing because I've seen situations where pathfinding can't get there and it's a soft hang), but she stripped and gagged my character, then "put" her into the furniture. By "put", I mean there was animation and text for it, but the character didn't actually get put into the furniture at all. Tested it afterwards to make sure it worked (just activated it manually) and the furniture worked fine, so seems to be an issue with Binding.
• "Inspection" seems to work as expected, but being told to do the same thing twice in a row (e.g. show sex) feels a little wonky. Not a big deal, but I'd expect to see different things chosen rather than the same thing again. Perhaps a thought for the future. It does also suffer from the same "no sex" issue I've been having if the dom decides they're gonna fuck the character. Masturbation works, but that's triggered through the menu (I don't see any options for sex?) This can also cause the milking issue, and there's also a typo in the text for masturbation: "Play with yourself. I want to see you have an get off." which should read more like "I want to see you get off."
• Further testing the Word Wall/Souls from Bones interactions: character had a rule that had her wearing a chastity harness (harness deal, not chastity) when the Souls from Bones quest triggered. Things were okay until she was in the stocks, at which point the sex scene didn't trigger. Still got the absorb effect, stuck on the very last part. Seems like that only works when the sex finishes. I did leave it for some time while I went and did something else in meatspace, but it didn't get beyond this.
• I think this next test didn't have the word wall ritual being triggered, but this time there was no issue with the dragon soul being absorbed and causing a word wall failure message. Possibly it's intermittent or glitchy? Not seeing it anywhere in logs (using Advanced Notification Log; it holds all logs from the session, and I took a save from prior to the word wall, took Fus from the wall without the ritual, then continued on to deal with Mirmulnir). I'll try and see if I can get this to trigger again in the future. There may possibly be interaction with something I'm using, as I have the option to attune a word wall when I'm close to it, if I have a soul and use it.

 

[Lazy Palm]

21 minutes ago, Scautura said:

Originally posted on Discord, but I'll post here so people can see what I've gone through, and if they've got similar issues. I did this testing on 0.3.11, but I'll repeat what I can on 0.3.13 when I can.

 

 

Thanks for cross posting this!  That was a really good idea. Good to know if others are having the same issues.

 

[Lazy Palm]

10 hours ago, Kargano01 said:

I know this .. I have "enter witherun" on the screen. go down to my knees, move te camera and speak to my Mistress. But there is no Line for exit. If i dont move the Camerea and press "e" the i leave the building.

 

About the Event. I was stripped and i became the Rope Harness and Gag and hoood, but i was not lying in Hogtie. I was just kneeling. On ja press on Jump. i was standing .

 

Thanks for the follow up.  I will run some more tests today and see if I can figure out what is up.

 

And will check out the bound sleep issue also!

[Kargano01]

1 hour ago, Lazy Palm said:

 

Thanks for the follow up.  I will run some more tests today and see if I can figure out what is up.

 

And will check out the bound sleep issue also!

Many thxs. On a fresh New start with 0.3.13 it was working with the Display. Before i just updatet from 0.3.12

 

But i recognized a other isssue. This time i activated survival and on Camp Sleep (with fake sleeb enabled and disabled) Mistress wont wake up. Wartet long time ( more tha 15min) when i sleep with actin key, it counts as sleep. But after more than a night and a Day ingame, only the safe word Was waking up my Mistress.

 

Sorry. 

 

Thanx for your great support.