Binding

[Lazy Palm]

1 hour ago, badbat111 said:

i havent heard of camping i was near the 2 whipping poles against the outer wall of whiterun near belethors shop

 

If you missed it, you can get camping to fire off by kneeling and starting dialog outside of cities.  You are asked to setup a campsite with the action key and then are put to bed.

 

batbat, are you having furniture marker issues also?

[swords and sandals]

3 hours ago, Lazy Palm said:

 

I like that and would for sure add it to the drop down list in the next release.  I just can't seem to figure out which zad or zadx collar it is.  Anybody have ideas?

 

Editing this: I am a dummy, you said ZAP and I am looking Devious Devices.  Long day at the day job.  I will check again!

 

It looks like the collar from here:

 

 

I don't use that extension myself, but I use the mesh for Submissive Lola's custom collar in my game. It's a lovely collar!

[Azatthot]

Can we have sublola extension wait on entering cities and bindage inn sleep i dont care if you use sublola furniture I have both installed anyways?

[Lazy Palm]

1 hour ago, Azatthot said:

Can we have sublola extension wait on entering cities and bindage inn sleep i dont care if you use sublola furniture I have both installed anyways?

 

Are you wanting the ability to set delays before events are triggered?  If so, I was actually working on that.  I have a random timer on Free Use Event that triggers between 2 to 15 minutes of game time, I was going to do something similar to that on other events and have MCM sliders to fine tune them.

[Lazy Palm]

On 7/30/2024 at 9:45 PM, merManc said:

 

It looks like the collar from here:

 

 

I don't use that extension myself, but I use the mesh for Submissive Lola's custom collar in my game. It's a lovely collar!

 

That explains why I could not find it in ZAP 8+.

 

I found a couple of collars with a similar vibe in ZAP, and I will add them (with some color variations on one), in the next release.

 

Thanks for the info!

 

[Aladsk]

Absolutely love the mod so far!

However, I am having some trouble with the bound sleeping feature. After the follower ties the PC up, pressing the Action Key does nothing but show the "You should relax. There is nothing to do." message. I can pass the time by pressing the Wait key, but it seems as though that doesn't count as sleeping, given that the Survival Mode tired effect does not go away.

Aside from that, I would love to see a rule for being permanently gagged in the future.

Many thanks and best regards.

[Lazy Palm]

48 minutes ago, ThePopato said:

Absolutely love the mod so far!

However, I am having some trouble with the bound sleeping feature. After the follower ties the PC up, pressing the Action Key does nothing but show the "You should relax. There is nothing to do." message. I can pass the time by pressing the Wait key, but it seems as though that doesn't count as sleeping, given that the Survival Mode tired effect does not go away.

Aside from that, I would love to see a rule for being permanently gagged in the future.

Many thanks and best regards.

 

Glad you like it!!

 

Yeah, it should be throwing up a sleep dialog when you hit the action key.  Then after your follower wakes up and wanders a bit, it should show the "you should relax" message up until you are freed.  Is it showing phase 100 in the debug menu when you are hitting the action key?  Does sleeping during the camping event have the same issue?

 

I can definitely add a gagged rule!  Good idea!

[Lazy Palm]

1 hour ago, ThePopato said:

Aside from that, I would love to see a rule for being permanently gagged in the future.
 

 

So I am thinking with this rule a player would still need it removed to eat/drink.  What kind of mechanic would you think works best for that?  Plead for temp removal?  A few minutes at a daily time?

[bubba999]

I have another idea! How about "my feet must be locked in slave boots?" Lots of choices there.

[Aladsk]

59 minutes ago, Lazy Palm said:

 

So I am thinking with this rule a player would still need it removed to eat/drink.  What kind of mechanic would you think works best for that?  Plead for temp removal?  A few minutes at a daily time?

Personally, I'm leaning more towards temp removal. The player could ask to be ungagged when entering dungeons, talking to vendors or eating/drinking. The alternative seems a tad too restrictive gameplay-wise, ironically.

[Aladsk]

1 hour ago, Lazy Palm said:

 

Yeah, it should be throwing up a sleep dialog when you hit the action key.  Then after your follower wakes up and wanders a bit, it should show the "you should relax" message up until you are freed.  Is it showing phase 100 in the debug menu when you are hitting the action key?  Does sleeping during the camping event have the same issue?

The same issue does occur when camping, though I haven't checked the debug menu yet. I'll update this post when I do.

UPDATE: When I press the action key, it does show phase 100. It's when I press the key a second time that it shows phase 200 and the "you should relax" message.

Edited August 2, 2024 by ThePopato

[Tycho Brahe]

Just tried the mod out, and actually bondage-focused player slavery IS very nice, actually. Love it!

 

Questions for the author, but it's alright if you can't or don't want to share: What are the future plans for this mod? Any more planned features coming?

[fuckoffplz11]

1 hour ago, Lazy Palm said:

 

So I am thinking with this rule a player would still need it removed to eat/drink.  What kind of mechanic would you think works best for that?  Plead for temp removal?  A few minutes at a daily time?

Perhaps make it a panel gag only thing and have the owner remove the panel plug for 1 minute max for you to eat, drink and whatever else, and then shut it back in for a min of 12-24 hours?

 

1 hour ago, bubba999 said:

I have another idea! How about "my feet must be locked in slave boots?" Lots of choices there.

 

I second this. would be nice

 

As for my own suggestion, what about forcing a corset on the player? Can also add Devious training support and have the dom follower shape your body as they wish, or atleast waist reduction via corset wearing.  Optional permament option, and with devious training installed, owner could give you training on piece by piece after youve reached a specific level (level 4-6 is considered "trained")

[lovalter]

Really like the gag suggestion. Personally I just want more dialogue, feels pretty lifeless rn

[Aladsk]

Upon further playtime, I recommend using armbinders instead of elbowbinders since the current kneeling animation results in the arms clipping out of the elbowbinder.

 

7 hours ago, lovalter said:

Really like the gag suggestion. Personally I just want more dialogue, feels pretty lifeless rn

Some more flavor dialogue would absolutely be appreciated.

[Garfieldcat]

Just dropped in to say it is nice to see another player oriented slavery mode and so far it works great
Looking forward to more! 

P.S.
Being always shackled doesn't display (at least for me) on the rules list in the dialogue with the companion.
So currently, it can only be activated via MCM. Not a big issue, but it would be nice for immersions sake  

Edited August 3, 2024 by Garfieldcat

[Lazy Palm]

16 hours ago, bubba999 said:

I have another idea! How about "my feet must be locked in slave boots?" Lots of choices there.

 

This makes me think of times I have played other mods and I have gotten hit with slave boots or hobble dresses and get hit with the slow down mechanic.... NOOOO ANYTHING BUT THIS!!!  😀

 

That all said, I will for sure add them!  I will check them out again (and the MCM slowdown setting in DD).

[Lazy Palm]

15 hours ago, ThePopato said:

Personally, I'm leaning more towards temp removal. The player could ask to be ungagged when entering dungeons, talking to vendors or eating/drinking. The alternative seems a tad too restrictive gameplay-wise, ironically.

 

Well, you can tweak the gagged talk chance in DD and mumble your way to successful conversations.  It could be interesting to have to do that more often! 

 

Good points though.  I do like the idea.  I really like the gags and it is too easy to keep from getting one equipped currently.

 

[Lazy Palm]

15 hours ago, ThePopato said:

The same issue does occur when camping, though I haven't checked the debug menu yet. I'll update this post when I do.

UPDATE: When I press the action key, it does show phase 100. It's when I press the key a second time that it shows phase 200 and the "you should relax" message.

 

Just out of curiosity, are you playing AE, SE, LE?  And other beds are working for you, right?

 

This mod basically moves an invisible bedroll under you and activates it when you press the action key, so I am guessing something is going off the rails with that process.

 

[Jappa123]

Great mod! looking forward for new updates.

 

I would like to suggest some features, how abot harsh Bondage can also start randomly - mcm configurable, bacisally same as Put On Display, this would make mod more "alive"

 

As much a like bound all time rule, sometimes it just way too "boring?" would be cool so see simple "deals" for example pay 50g for 1h of freedom, or simple job like "bring me this ale" for some hours of freedom.

 

Last thing to make it more immersive - turn around animation for player when master is equipping restraints, there is animation for master but not for player, it's in maria eden and devious framework and it's super cool tbh.

[Lazy Palm]

14 hours ago, Tycho Brahe said:

Just tried the mod out, and actually bondage-focused player slavery IS very nice, actually. Love it!

 

Questions for the author, but it's alright if you can't or don't want to share: What are the future plans for this mod? Any more planned features coming?

 

Really glad you like it!

 

Oh yeah, I have so many thoughts about where to go with this mod.  I would love a formal roadmap of the features I want to add, but since I am so new to Creation Kit and Papyrus, I still find myself trying to figure out what is even possible.

 

That said here is my really rough game plan (for near term):

• Lots of variability on the events that are supported.  Right now, everything happens in fixed sequences.  I want lots of chance at play.  When you are camping, you might get tied to different furniture, you might be left in there and not be allowed to sleep, you follower might please themselves and tease you about it, your follower might do another things while sand boxing (cook, sharpen sword, etc.), your follower might have visitors to the camp, your follower might wake up and have sex with you and leave for a bit.
• More bondage focused events.  Tied up slaves at a dinner party in Solitude where you are a decoration?  Your follower pays a guard to keep you in a jail for a bit when you have been bad (and so have other Doms)?  You could really carried away with different possibilities.
• Make a smarter Dom.  I want the follower to talk (dialog and comments) a healthy amount, be aware of environments, have a personality and preferences.  Debrief and learn about the bondage items you like and don't (and maybe use these correct behavior).  Not just follow you around, but push you around the map a bit "I need to visit Riverwood" and you get tied and dragged there and made to stay in the area for a bit while they do their thing.  Aware of when it is cold/raining/etc. and dress you.  Aware of dangerous areas and might sneakily untie you for combat.  Figures out how long is the right amount to be kept locked up and not moving.  Knows when you hit the T key to skip time and will chastise/punish you for doing it.
• Harem type support for your Dom.  And this might not just be active followers, they might populate your player homes with slaves (chained up of course), and you might have to help collect them.  (I just barely started to scratch the surface of this with my internal bondage management overhaul in 0.1.03) 

It will definitely be a process to build some of this stuff, but I don't code at work anymore so this has been my creative outlet and I hope to keep the updates coming as I build out the features.

 

 

[Aladsk]

2 hours ago, Lazy Palm said:

 

Just out of curiosity, are you playing AE, SE, LE?  And other beds are working for you, right?

 

This mod basically moves an invisible bedroll under you and activates it when you press the action key, so I am guessing something is going off the rails with that process.

 

I'm playing AE, and as far as I can tell, other beds are working correctly. Though I am using Go to bed, which might have an effect.

[Lazy Palm]

22 hours ago, lovalter said:

Really like the gag suggestion. Personally I just want more dialogue, feels pretty lifeless rn

 

Yeah, I agree. I focused a lot on getting the basic mechanics working and not enough time getting making the follower have more of a personality or observers being more interactive.  I am definitely hoping to address this in the coming weeks/months!

[Lazy Palm]

14 hours ago, ThePopato said:

Upon further playtime, I recommend using armbinders instead of elbowbinders since the current kneeling animation results in the arms clipping out of the elbowbinder

 

Yeah, this one is on my list to figure out.  The animations are courtesy of ZAP and work well with the ZAP wrist bindings (and probably the armbinder in there).  Most of the DD stuff is elbow slot armbinders.  They really don't play well together.  I have avoided the ZAP bondage stuff because I wanted the DD bound combat effects.

 

Thanks for pointing it out regardless!

[Lazy Palm]

22 hours ago, fuckoffplz11 said:

Perhaps make it a panel gag only thing and have the owner remove the panel plug for 1 minute max for you to eat, drink and whatever else, and then shut it back in for a min of 12-24 hours?

 

 

I second this. would be nice

 

As for my own suggestion, what about forcing a corset on the player? Can also add Devious training support and have the dom follower shape your body as they wish, or atleast waist reduction via corset wearing.  Optional permament option, and with devious training installed, owner could give you training on piece by piece after youve reached a specific level (level 4-6 is considered "trained")

 

Yeah, I like this mechanic idea with the gags.  Get some sustenance every now and then but must mumble for communication otherwise.  Feeling like there might need to be some different options available depending on how you want to play.  Thanks!

 

I have never looked a devious training, but I will check it out, and corsets would be fun to add.  I will put it on the list!