When is CBBE coming? Tools are out.

[DocClox]

13 hours ago, nIn nIn nIn said:

Does the Vanilla body have enough polygons to make extreme morphs possible? We needed high poly replacers for the older games. Is this no longer necessary?

 

It may well be. I know the CRT ody mod adds a hell of a lot of verts around the boob-to-butt area to get the shape the author wanted. Sp yeah, probably we're going to want some sort of high poly body. But I've not dug in too deeply as yet, so take with a pinch of salt.

 

2 hours ago, nIn nIn nIn said:

Can morphs alter the nipples? That type of thing, on the vanilla body. What will we need to customise our bodies in the way it's possible in Skyrim for example. I don't want 6 inch long nipples, but just knowing it's possible instils confidence that anything I try is possible.

 

Yes in general. Not sure for the vanilla body. I tried tweaking them for NSS and I seem to recall there's a vertex at the nipple tip. Try and stretch them out and you get spikes rather than organ stops. So that's another argument for a custom mesh, I guess.

 

 

[Djlegends]

WIP from TBD author

 

Edited June 21, 2024 by Djlegends

[Agent_Smith]

On 6/20/2024 at 10:18 PM, Djlegends said:

WIP from TBD author

 

Now we're talking.

[Dakhma]

That looks really  good, I do wish the UBE Author would make a body for Starfield or even Fallout.

[Djlegends]

10 hours ago, Dakhma said:

That looks really  good, I do wish the UBE Author would make a body for Starfield or even Fallout.

somebody else is taking the mantle for that for SF

[PegasusKoga]

On 6/21/2024 at 5:18 AM, Djlegends said:

WIP from TBD author

 

Where can i follow his progress?  Bethesda really went out of their way to make the Starfield women as physically unattractive as possible and i cannot wait to change that.

[Origamiboy]

On 6/20/2024 at 11:18 PM, Djlegends said:

WIP from TBD author

 

Dear god yes

[fallout980350376]

On 6/21/2024 at 5:18 AM, Djlegends said:

WIP from TBD author

 

with this body and if someone ports Bodyslide, Starsfield will become worth playing 

[Djlegends]

12 hours ago, fallout980350376 said:

with this body and if someone ports Bodyslide, Starsfield will become worth playing 

blender version of Bodyslide is in the works btw

[Mr. Otaku]

On 6/21/2024 at 8:48 AM, Djlegends said:

WIP from TBD author

 

Ohshid dude lessgoooooo!!!

 

 

I already downloaded all the mods from this creator, good to see they didn't abandon the game. Where are you getting all this info from btw? Is there a specific server where they post these things or is it just DMs?

[Allnarta]

On 6/26/2024 at 12:10 AM, PegasusKoga said:

Where can i follow his progress?  Bethesda really went out of their way to make the Starfield women as physically unattractive as possible and i cannot wait to change that.

 

As I was told, it's gonna be paywalled for a while, so alternative would be still relevant.

[Allnarta]

5 hours ago, Djlegends said:

blender version of Bodyslide is in the works btw

 

There is no "blender version of Bodyslide" and it is not in mystic "in the works". There is Starfield Geometry Bridge feature that allows to conformulate meshes in similar to Outfit Studio way, and it is already in latest tool branch on github. This information is not secret and everything is free and public on Bridge discord server.

Please stop tearing out bits of information from here and there and spreading it as a bits of hype, when things are a lot more simple and open.

Edited July 3, 2024 by Allnarta
typos as always .-.

[Vallsz]

On 6/25/2024 at 5:10 PM, PegasusKoga said:

Where can i follow his progress?  Bethesda really went out of their way to make the Starfield women as physically unattractive as possible and i cannot wait to change that.

 

What do you mean? Sarah and Andreja are infinitely superior to what vanilla Cait & Piper looked like. Same goes for the men, compare rodent faced vanilla MacCready to Sam. Say what you want about the non named npcs, but the named NPC's obliterate Fallout & Skyrims.

[Mr. Otaku]

12 minutes ago, vallixas said:

 

What do you mean? Sarah and Andreja are infinitely superior to what vanilla Cait & Piper looked like. Same goes for the men, compare rodent faced vanilla MacCready to Sam. Say what you want about the non named npcs, but the named NPC's obliterate Fallout & Skyrims.

 

Big true. Also Starfield does have a wide pool of normal looking human NPCs, they just chose to use the procedurally generated pool for the crowds and those look potato faced and weird. Mods like this completely replace those with the normal looking ones and i gotta say, makes a big difference to the overall experience. Hell imo this should be officially implemented because it'll only make the game better for everyone. I've seen some people claim the game looks as bad as a PS3 game which always makes me wonder if they're pretending to be blind or stupid.

[brown66]

4 hours ago, Mr. Otaku said:

 

Big true. Also Starfield does have a wide pool of normal looking human NPCs, they just chose to use the procedurally generated pool for the crowds and those look potato faced and weird. Mods like this completely replace those with the normal looking ones and i gotta say, makes a big difference to the overall experience. Hell imo this should be officially implemented because it'll only make the game better for everyone. I've seen some people claim the game looks as bad as a PS3 game which always makes me wonder if they're pretending to be blind or stupid.

 

This happened on my little YouTube channel, but I suspect it has happened elsewhere.

 

 

I have been following Sarfield haters and, apart from the common characteristic of not having played the game, they are generally the same and are in groups running all over the internet where Starfield is talked about, just so they can post their hateful comments.

 

Making hateful comments has become a new way of life for some younger people. I wonder what kind of people they will be when they are fully developed adults...

[Arijevac]

Even if CBBE doesn't come to Starfield, and some other body mod emarges, would we still be able to set the body dimesions as we like, and convert the outfit's according to that body?

I'm noob in modding, just asking. I still don't want to play Starfield without a good female body mod. Can't stand Bethesda female hips...

Edited July 3, 2024 by Arijevac

[PegasusKoga]

19 hours ago, Allnarta said:

 

As I was told, it's gonna be paywalled for a while, so alternative would be still relevant.

At least the male body is already covered, thanks to you.

 

I say covered but i'm walking around New Atlantis butt naked most of the time because i like your Roberts body so much, haha, splendid job you did there.

[Allnarta]

3 minutes ago, PegasusKoga said:

At least the male body is already covered, thanks to you.

 

I say covered but i'm walking around New Atlantis butt naked most of the time because i like your Roberts body so much, haha, splendid job you did there.

 

Heh, yeah, with latest Bridge updates that ease working with outfits ten times and also add proper conformulating body sliders (this thing works and looks better than outfit studio I must say!), I'm going to push vanilla refits process now.

[PegasusKoga]

17 hours ago, vallixas said:

 

What do you mean? Sarah and Andreja are infinitely superior to what vanilla Cait & Piper looked like. Same goes for the men, compare rodent faced vanilla MacCready to Sam. Say what you want about the non named npcs, but the named NPC's obliterate Fallout & Skyrims.

I ain't talking about the faces (who all start to look the same after you played for a few hundred hours).  The vanilla female body shape is much too androgynous for me.

 

But "les gouts et les couleurs ne se discutent pas" as they say in French.

[PegasusKoga]

Just now, Allnarta said:

 

Heh, yeah, with latest Bridge updates that ease working with outfits ten times and also add proper conformulating body sliders (this thing works and looks better than outfit studio I must say!), I'm going to push vanilla refits process now.

Looking forward to it!

[DocClox]

On 7/4/2024 at 8:11 AM, PegasusKoga said:

I ain't talking about the faces (who all start to look the same after you played for a few hundred hours).  The vanilla female body shape is much too androgynous for me.

 

But "les gouts et les couleurs ne se discutent pas" as they say in French.

 

True enough. The faces are pretty, but the bodies are flat as boards and the costumes have all the sex appeal of a double entry accounting seminar.

 

Edited July 6, 2024 by DocClox

[Vallsz]

On 7/4/2024 at 4:11 AM, PegasusKoga said:

I ain't talking about the faces (who all start to look the same after you played for a few hundred hours).  The vanilla female body shape is much too androgynous for me.

 

But "les gouts et les couleurs ne se discutent pas" as they say in French.

 

I mean...the vanilla bodies in the past 2 games were worse too lmao

[brown66]

Female bodies in Skyrim and Fallout 4 already looked more like meshes of genuinely crafted female bodies than adaptations of a male body with slight breast inflation.

 

The main issue, Imao!, is that Bethesda has in recent years avoided sexualizing female bodies too much, to make the games more acceptable in the eyes of many parents who let their younger children play these games. And also avoiding possible and foreseeable future controversies that games promote women's bodies that are not realistic or representative of the majority of women. And if a publisher wants its game to be played (and therefore sold) for many years, it is necessary to avoid making possibly controversial choices during its conception. Especially when there is a community of modders who will take care of doing this.

Personally, I was never a big fan of the CBBE female body in Skyrim. I preferred CHSBHC, which is also not perfect.

 

But what bothers me most about Skyrim and Fallout 4 is a limitation that I see again in Starfield - you can't use different models of female bodies simultaneously, with the game engine choosing their distribution randomly among the several hundred or so thousands of female NPCs existing in the game, without prejudice to the player being able to manually choose this distribution in certain female NPCs.

 

The day this becomes possible in a Bethesda RPG, other game publishers may close their doors.

[Truckstopcowboy]

How about a curvy nuka girl body?

Edited July 5, 2024 by Truckstopcowboy
Wrong name for mod

[DocClox]

18 hours ago, vallixas said:

I mean...the vanilla bodies in the past 2 games were worse too lmao

 

You say that, but ... well Adrienne in Whiterun may have been wearing pants under that apron, but she still filled it out nicely. Olfina Grey-Mane always made me wish I could pop one of her boobs out of that bodice and have a quick fondle. And Alva's outfit? There's a reason it got copied onto so many other mods.

 

I can't think of anyone like that in Starfield. Andreja's VA gets pretty sultry at times, which is nice and all, but I'm having problems trying to think of anyone in the settled systems that's at all visually appealing below the neck.