Darsel Posted July 2, 2024 Posted July 2, 2024 (edited) 2 hours ago, Kieva said: That's one way to look at it I suppose. Then again, I don't see how being a suppressed and persecuted people would be a catalyst to be hypersexual, violent and depraved; if anything, those feel more like what those in power would make up to demonise and suppress them. Some sort of optional storyline to attempt to dispel this unfavourable portrayal could be great, I think. As an aside, I do think the whole conceit of futas being "demonic beasts with no self-control" kind of tunneled it into a specific, not exactly favourable, depiction of futas. That said, if "gentle" (again, for a lack of better word) futa content does come into play, I think tying it to the enclave is a bit limited. The enclave is important but it should by no means the be all and end all of futa diplomacy. A splinter/new faction could certainly be another option to realize a more.. amorous.. paradigm of events/futa relations.  At present, the mod seems to focus around the introduction of the enclave as being a very subversive element designed to add challenge to runs. The mod tends to push the narrative of a futa's nature being sexually aggressive/maddening to the point where even the noble futa knight clearly struggles with the demands of their biology. Having simple one-off events where futa are suddenly very affectionate and not demanding almost seems a bit 'out of character' without there being some mechanism to drive that narrative juxtaposition(such as a player initiative to drive enclave reforms, or a more genteel ideology/faction competing for influence).  To analog the issue: The mod introduces a bandit faction seeking to gain power through confrontational methods. How should adding events involving diplomatic scholars be implemented?  Then again, such events could simply just be written off as "It's a smut mod, who cares?" It's ultimately up to Phaze Star and their machinations as the author of the mod. 🙂 Edited July 2, 2024 by Darsel 1
ggreg1000 Posted July 2, 2024 Posted July 2, 2024 I keep running into an issue where I can't appoint a representative and when the initial event to assign one triggers whoever I assign is instantly removed from the position, even courtiers I bring in with the merchant don't qualify
Phaze Star Posted July 2, 2024 Author Posted July 2, 2024 16 minutes ago, ggreg1000 said: I keep running into an issue where I can't appoint a representative and when the initial event to assign one triggers whoever I assign is instantly removed from the position, even courtiers I bring in with the merchant don't qualify First I am hearing of this, you might have a mod conflict
Unsei15 Posted July 3, 2024 Posted July 3, 2024 On 6/19/2024 at 5:43 PM, Phaze Star said: I could do that right now, but that is not how I see things. The male chance is by design. Sorry for late reply. Since it's by design can it be inferred that events for male characters who have a futa as the 'father' will have events/content later down the line? 1
ggreg1000 Posted July 3, 2024 Posted July 3, 2024 Yep, seems like that's what it was, something went screwy with my carnalitas installation 1
Phaze Star Posted July 3, 2024 Author Posted July 3, 2024 37 minutes ago, Unsei15 said: Sorry for late reply. Since it's by design can it be inferred that events for male characters who have a futa as the 'father' will have events/content later down the line? The main issue is I have no way of saving the data of a Futa Father beyond the birth, so I wouldn't be able to name or show their Futa Father.
Dreevich Posted July 3, 2024 Posted July 3, 2024 Do futa_fathered kids inherit any genes from their parents? For experiment I have a couple with identical dna, so their children should be almost clones. But they didn't look like their parents at all Â
Phaze Star Posted July 3, 2024 Author Posted July 3, 2024 21 minutes ago, Dreevich said: Do futa_fathered kids inherit any genes from their parents? For experiment I have a couple with identical dna, so their children should be almost clones. But they didn't look like their parents at all  No, I prioritised traits
Phaze Star Posted July 3, 2024 Author Posted July 3, 2024 For those who care, I have laid out what I have planed for the future of my mods (For now) here https://ko-fi.com/post/Current-Status-of-Mods-and-Future-Works-Z8Z11021ZM 3
Dreevich Posted July 3, 2024 Posted July 3, 2024 33 minutes ago, Phaze Star said: No, I prioritised traits Will it appear in the future? That's a shame. that kids don't look like their parents Â
Phaze Star Posted July 3, 2024 Author Posted July 3, 2024 Just now, Dreevich said: Will it appear in the future? That's a shame. that kids don't look like their parents  Getting any of this to work required monumental effort. I have no idea about how I can incorperate visual genetics.
Darsel Posted July 4, 2024 Posted July 4, 2024 11 hours ago, Dreevich said: Will it appear in the future? That's a shame. that kids don't look like their parents  Unfortunately, until the ck3 devs undo all the hard-coded restrictions they added, or until someone comes forward with documentation/explanation of how the game handles genetic inheritance on the code side of things, that's going to be extraordinarily difficult to implement.  My only theoretical workaround would be to split 'futanari' into two phenotype - 'male'("bull"?) and 'female' futa. That said, I don't really know if it's possible to load female models onto male characters via something like a portrait modifier and still keep male models as they are for regular males. It might actually require a completely new body system built from the ground up that can be shaped for both sexes. Either way, 3d model stuff something well beyond my ken.  Even then, we'd still be in a position where 'male' futa wouldn't be able to become pregnant, and 'female' futa couldn't be displayed/indexed as fathers due to hard-coded limitations.  You can kind of cheat trait inheritance through character flags, but it's an extremely delicate process with a lot of potential room for things to go wrong(especially in multiplayer and succession situations - it's an entirely different can of worms for NPCs even having access to a system like that with the current limitations). A simpler system could be to have a singular court position (ex. Futa-Breeder), and scope trait checks between them and the child's other parent. This would work across multiplayer and NPC courts, but would drastically limit potential futa (im)pregnation to exclusively the holders of those court positions in order to work with any kind of rational logic.  Any route, there's a lot of ways to go about trying to make futanari work, but they're all nightmarish and come with a set of limitations. The hard-coded nature of ck3 versus ck2 is the reason I personally haven't bothered, and the one shot we had for them to actually make a better inheritance system sadly died years ago amid half-hearted excuses. So, huge props to Phaze Star for actually trying to make a system that is functional despite all the hurdles and constraints. 1
Finisher Posted July 4, 2024 Posted July 4, 2024 (edited) Well, technically you should be able to copy the appearance of a character and apply it to the children. There is a "copy_inheritable_appearance_from" effect in the game and it, funnily enough, copies a characters appearance (inheritable appearance attributes, inheritable genes in the character's DNA string) from the target character to the scoped character.  The problem would be that, I think, they would be the EXACT same appearance as the chosen parent, like a clone.  I also haven't really used this effect, so no idea what would happen if the sexes don't match, (What would happen when child is male? Both "parents" are going to be female.) or whether if applying an adult's appearance to a child would cause problems or not, though it probably wouldn't.  Another slightly silly way to do it would be to create a character who is an exact copy of the Futa but male, have "him" impregnate the female, then disappear. That would also has its own problems, most likely. Edited July 4, 2024 by Finisher
Phaze Star Posted July 4, 2024 Author Posted July 4, 2024 2 hours ago, Finisher said: EXACT same appearance as the chosen parent, like a clone. It woukd do this, and I do not want that. I would rather not use genetics than have clones all the time. Â 2 hours ago, Finisher said: exact copy of the Futa but male, That method is incompatible with my trait inheritance method, so once again I prioritised passing down traits over genes. 1
Saber83 Posted July 5, 2024 Posted July 5, 2024 So, random question, was continuing my recent Romagna playthrough and just thought I'd ask: Has anyone done a successful Futa invasion of the Papacy in the Italy region. By that, I mean the option you get when you visit the Futa Merchant to sponsor an invasion.  On 7/3/2024 at 4:47 PM, Phaze Star said: For those who care, I have laid out what I have planed for the future of my mods (For now) here https://ko-fi.com/post/Current-Status-of-Mods-and-Future-Works-Z8Z11021ZM  Read this, and I would be really interested in a more literal representation of a horse themed religion in the mod, though I can only guess at what all needs to be added and modified to allow it to happen.  Also, though I don't know what could be added, I would like some more horse-related culture trait options.  And finally. The overhaul idea you sounds like it would take a long time to implement and a lot of work, especially for 1 or 2 people on their own. Don't take that as me trying to be discouraging, I'm just saying. 1
Phaze Star Posted July 5, 2024 Author Posted July 5, 2024 32 minutes ago, Saber83 said: more literal representation of a horse themed religion I will likely wait for Roads to Power to act on that. Â 33 minutes ago, Saber83 said: a lot of work, especially for 1 Yeah it would be. Some ideas can only be realised in such a mod though.
Kylles Posted July 5, 2024 Posted July 5, 2024 If only the devs at least tried to not break every single mod at every single update ðŸ˜
Phaze Star Posted July 6, 2024 Author Posted July 6, 2024 Massive Version 10 Update Another huge update for the Futanari mod. This time it was sponsored! Big thanks to those who took personal interest in my works. The theme was adding Femboi content, but for those here only for Futa there is pleanty more of that here as well. Finisher teamed up with me once more to allow for more content in the same time frame. New Futa Themed Coat of Arms customisation options at character creation! BRAND NEW Femboi content! You must reach Enclave Tier 4 if you want to see any of this content You will hear news about a new trend, it is up to you whether it is embraced or stomped out completely Large collection of realm events if you allow Fembois NEW Femboi trait - Aquired through the Futa Merchant This trait removes beards from Men A collection of events if you have the Femboi Trait Prized Femboi Court Position Futa X Femboi lover relation events New Femboi MAA NEW Battlefiled Fitanari events with multiple outcomes These take place if you (Or an enemy) Commander/Knight are Futanari at max Backed Up NEW decision to rescue your lover from prison if Futa (Or pray for your Futa Lover to save you) VERY extensive quest chain with so many different pathways to take Never allow your lovers to suffer when the King of France realises they were cheating on him again! ARTIFACT SUPPORT has now been added. There are new things to buy from the Futanari Merchant New sexuality conversion scheme accessible for Futanari from a Merchant Artifact! Merchant decision no longer goes onto cooldown if you did nothing Futa Fathered Chidren Trait inheritance has been repaired Realm Guard MAA buffed The Assassination attempt has been given a hard 15 year cooldown ontop of the 10 year grace period when starting When donating children to the Futanari Enclave, you can get more or less Goodwill based on the child's traits Gamerules for Femboi Content  Support Updates like these are a MASSIVE undertaking, and I am in financially tough times. If you like what I do, please support me on my KO-FI account to help me continue: Ko-fi.com/phazestar 2
cgman19 Posted July 6, 2024 Posted July 6, 2024 How much did the femboi sponsor pay to have their fetish forced into the mod? I'll double it to take it out ;^)
Phaze Star Posted July 6, 2024 Author Posted July 6, 2024 28 minutes ago, cgman19 said: How much did the femboi sponsor pay to have their fetish forced into the mod? I'll double it to take it out ;^) You don't have to engage with it. If you use the game rules and/or ban them when the initial event asks you, there will be no femboi content 2
Lyskorie Posted July 6, 2024 Posted July 6, 2024 7 hours ago, Phaze Star said: You don't have to engage with it. If you use the game rules and/or ban them when the initial event asks you, there will be no femboi content From what I can tell from the files, the game rules only allow "very rare" at most, which doesn't exactly sound like "no content" to me. Â And the event, which from the code I assume is 0243 "Changing Roles", if you reject and do not want to engage with femboy content you get a penalty to Enclave relations which just seem... unfair? Why is the player being punished for not wanting to engage in content they don't want to engage in?
Kionatria Posted July 6, 2024 Posted July 6, 2024 Since we now have Femboi content, how soon can we expect Dickgirls to appear in PFM?
Phaze Star Posted July 6, 2024 Author Posted July 6, 2024 2 hours ago, Kieva said: "very rare" Completely disablled will be added in a patch coming soon as I also found my favourite thing. A Bracket Error! Â 1 hour ago, Kionatria said: Dickgirls At the start of it all I wanted too, but that would be far to messy to include now. Any sexual event would need to now check if you are a Dickgirl or Futanari and then have new text for that. I would also need to change sex effects to remove pregnancy checks. Infortunatly it is just not realistic for me to add anymore.
skeletor Posted July 6, 2024 Posted July 6, 2024 4 hours ago, Phaze Star said: Completely disablled will be added in a patch coming soon as I also found my favourite thing. A Bracket Error! Â At the start of it all I wanted too, but that would be far to messy to include now. Any sexual event would need to now check if you are a Dickgirl or Futanari and then have new text for that. I would also need to change sex effects to remove pregnancy checks. Infortunatly it is just not realistic for me to add anymore. I remember a time where futas were just chicks with dicks. Now its just males with tits.
Gun and Flowers Posted July 6, 2024 Posted July 6, 2024 Oh! Once again, I'm getting a new version without finishing Chinese Localization of the last one.😂 2
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