[mod] IMU

[Rexie]

2 hours ago, The Lord said:

These all seem like rather involved ideas. I am currently looking for something more self-contained, smaller scale. I will amend my post to make that more clear. Sorry for that.

 

All G, I realised that they aren't quite basic.

 

2 hours ago, The Lord said:

And out of curiosity:

You seem rather fond of killing characters or using violence, judging by your examples. Is that something you tie to the general idea of the mod? Is what makes it interesting the struggle for one's life? Being at an actual danger of dying due to being found out or similar?

 

The death and violence isn't necessarily the goal, more the trauma, abuse and "aftercare". Loss of connections and isolation. Compound with public scorn.

 

The abuse they face is seen as just and their suffering is the consequence of their own misdeeds. They are publically branded as a liar as their claims of being the wronged party cannot be trusted. 

 

The only person that can save them is their liege that they despise.

 

Weirdly, I don't actually like Stockholm syndrome. But I do like creepy stalkers and abusive suitors in stories.

 

And my favoured state for the protagonist is a cycle of suffering.

 

The cycle of the victim attempting to regain control of their life and failing at maintaining their new connections or even becoming the recipient of abuse through those new connections.

 

Geniune friends prove to be impotent or suffer disaster and death. Other connections prove to be manipulative and dangerous.

 

They become isolated and are forced to retreat back to their abuser.

 

And their abuser loves them, in their own possessive, twisted, way.

 

The victim always wants to escape but things seem to get worse each time they try.

 

Ironically I like good ends, or at least bittersweet ends. A bad end just doesn't seem carthartic to me after all that suffering.

Edited February 17, 2024 by Rexie
Fixing typos.

[The Lord]

24 minutes ago, Rexie said:

The death and violence isn't necessarily the goal, more the trauma, abuse and "aftercare". Loss of connections and isolation. Compound with public scorn.

Alright, thank you for sharing this with me. I don't think I really feel comfortable making this mod much darker than it already is. So I will most likely not write any such scenes. But if you feel like writing them yourself or know someone who would, you can always make your own mod/submod or provide the text so I can do the scripting for the events. I'd simply make a yes/no event that triggers first so people can decide for themselves if they want to see scenes with a darker theme.

[Ouroboros007]

I was thinking that it might be cool to have an event trigger while the doppleganger is still a maid, the other servants don't like the special attention that the doppleganger gets and so come up with a rather unflattering nickname for her. The doppleganger accidentally slips up and reveals this to the player, who can intervene on behalf of the doppelganger (which would likely alienate the other servants but I've yet to come up with a compelling consequence beyond making the challenges in the latter half more difficult) or allow the doppleganger to fend for herself. If the player lets her fend for herself, than in the latter half you could have a servant from the old court sent to your new one in a benign gesture, but have it result in old gossip getting spread around and reviving the demeaning nickname thus giving the player an actual nickname in game.

 

Personally, I really like the weight gain aspect, I wasn't expecting it but I actually really liked that your character is also somewhat responsible for their falling farther away from their old life. I don't think death needs to really play a part, I felt like the stakes were quite high as is. I very much enjoyed watching my former queen become less of a beautiful young woman and more of a wizened, rotund old woman while the doppleganger barely seemed to age. I thought that having the in-game models reflect the story being told through the events was very interesting and if you died early, I don't know that I, personally, would like it as much because you might miss out on some of that.

[The Lord]

4 hours ago, Ouroboros007 said:

I was thinking that it might be cool to have an event trigger while the doppleganger is still a maid, the other servants don't like the special attention that the doppleganger gets and so come up with a rather unflattering nickname for her.

 

Personally, I really like the weight gain aspect, I wasn't expecting it but I actually really liked that your character is also somewhat responsible for their falling farther away from their old life.

As for the nickname idea, I'd probably combine that with Rexie's suggestion of a rival for the doppelganger's attention. Something like "her Lady's Darling", and then give the doppelganger a young, up-and-coming, hotheaded maid of their own who wants her lady all to herself. I'd probably go with a maid again (I know, boring) because it's easier to keep those alive. Knights have a tendency to die. Especially if they are at the mercy of the AI.

 

As for the second part, my general idea with the transformative aspects is that the doppelganger wants to secure her position and getting you to look different is one way to achieve that goal. And maybe she likes humiliating the player character a little as well. But not too much. She still cares for them after all. Would you want more content like that? More weight gain oriented aspects? The way you phrased the paragraph makes me think this was more of a general statement than a suggestion.

Edited February 18, 2024 by The Lord

[Ouroboros007]

5 hours ago, The Lord said:

Would you want more content like that? More weight gain oriented aspects? The way you phrased the paragraph makes me think this was more of a general statement than a suggestion.

I would not be opposed, but I think what you have already is excellent and concise. My main point was I enjoyed how you could see the events having tangible effects on your character, rather than a choice between 20 stress and a good thing or 20 less stress and a bad thing that I'll click through after my third time seeing it.

 

On another note, I heard that one of the upcoming dlc for ck3 will be adding playing landless characters, which might be very interesting to tie into becoming the doppleganger's maid after failing the challenges.

[The Lord]

58 minutes ago, Ouroboros007 said:

I would not be opposed, but I think what you have already is excellent and concise. My main point was I enjoyed how you could see the events having tangible effects on your character, rather than a choice between 20 stress and a good thing or 20 less stress and a bad thing that I'll click through after my third time seeing it.

I see. Then I'm glad you like it!

 

59 minutes ago, Ouroboros007 said:

On another note, I heard that one of the upcoming dlc for ck3 will be adding playing landless characters, which might be very interesting to tie into becoming the doppleganger's maid after failing the challenges.

It could be interesting for many mods. But we'll have to see what it's like when we've actually got it. I'm still not sure whether or not I trust Paradox to design the system well.

[NukaNympho]

How do you trigger this btw? is it random if your under 30 as a female ruler and a duchy size realm?

[The Lord]

54 minutes ago, Johnny SIlverhand Pistol said:

How do you trigger this btw? is it random if your under 30 as a female ruler and a duchy size realm?

It is on the random yearly pulse, yes. Be an adult under 30, female, have both an existing father and mother (they don't need to be alive), own at least two counties, own at least one title of duchy rank or higher (i. e. can be a kingdom or an empire, too), and be healthy (no illnesses, no wounds). Sometimes, the game decides to do the classic Paradox thing and simply screw you over with the RNG. The chance for this event is rather high, so in theory you should see it fairly quickly after fulfilling all the criteria.

Edited February 20, 2024 by The Lord

[The Lord]

Update time!

 

Added some events to give people a better idea of what I am in need of ideas for. Many of them are either simply a slice of life or have some mildly naughty content (nothing really hardcore, although there is one slightly darker event). I also took time to work in the suggestion from Rexie, Ouroboros007, and Phaze Star. Thank you again for sharing them with me! In terms of functionality, many of these new events keep track of how often you consent to doing naughty things, how often you assert yourself, and how often you are submissive. Currently, there are three more events if you went with the more submissive options. I would have liked to include something for the assertive route as well, but had no good ideas come to mind. I'm sorry.

[m8l85555x]

This mod reminded me of this site, there are a lot of stories here that may be a source of inspiration to you dev https://lady2maid.blogspot.com/p/lib.html

[The Lord]

2 hours ago, m8l85555x said:

This mod reminded me of this site, there are a lot of stories here that may be a source of inspiration to you dev https://lady2maid.blogspot.com/p/lib.html

I took a look at the link. To me it seems as though most of these are focused on life as a maid being fetishised, which isn't the main draw for myself when working on my mod. For me it's mostly about the identity swap/transformation. The fact your doppelganger starts as your maid is largely coincidental. I needed a position at court of lower standing that the player character would have good reason to interact with frequently and that was generic enough to fit most timeframes and most areas of the map. So I don't think there is much there that I'd like to use as a template for my mod.

 

Still, thank you for sharing the link!

[blargballs]

Having read through the event files, I've not found an answer, but is there an event which results in you winning and marrying the maid?

 

 

Also, thank you for the weight gain elements, always good to see more (especially when someone at Paradox is clearly into it, too)

[The Lord]

49 minutes ago, blargballs said:

Having read through the event files, I've not found an answer, but is there an event which results in you winning and marrying the maid?

No, there is not. I have no content yet for being in a relationship with the maid (i. e. nemesis, rival, friend, best friend, lover, soulmate). I want to include at least some content for friendship/love eventually, but I am not sure yet how I want to handle that. Also, I'm a slow writer, so a happy ending like this is nothing I'll be likely to produce soon.

[Rexie]

Really like the rival maid events. May I suggest an event that follows up on the sweat one as well? 

 

During a feast, the rival "accidentally" spills ale or wine on to the player's hair and face. The rival apologises profusely and pulls out a towel to help clean them up.

 

The towel is actually a dirty towel that has already been used by the doppelganger, perhaps during one of their martial sessions. It reeks of sweat.

 

And the rival maid is smothering the player with it.

 

If the player fails to muster the will to resist then the maid will draw attention to the player. She will yell: "are you unwell Countess?" and "is there wine in your eyes?" And she will keep smothering until the player orgasms.

 

At which point the doppelganger will publicly shame the player. Unfortunately for the rival maid, the doppelganger enjoyed the player losing control of themselves and they enjoyed shaming the player.

[blargballs]

12 hours ago, The Lord said:

No, there is not. I have no content yet for being in a relationship with the maid (i. e. nemesis, rival, friend, best friend, lover, soulmate). I want to include at least some content for friendship/love eventually, but I am not sure yet how I want to handle that. Also, I'm a slow writer, so a happy ending like this is nothing I'll be likely to produce soon.

 

Understood, I do look forward to it, but can wait.

 

Dreams of having the rival defeated by falling in love and ending up in a happy ending where you both end up more powerful and round on hold.

[The Lord]

1 hour ago, Rexie said:

Really like the rival maid events. May I suggest an event that follows up on the sweat one as well?

My issue with this would be that I don't see the doppelganger as someone who'd call you out on it and publicly shame you. The rival maid is supposed to be petty and shortsighted (until I have enough events to justify writing a truce event with her in case the player didn't antagonise her). So this is something that would fit her. I'd just have to write an event where she finds out about your interest in the smell of her lady before. But then what do I do with the doppelganger that would make this event different from the pee one? Also, too much public shaming would force me to find a way to justify to the player why their character hasn't been deposed yet. Lowerinng their prestige constantly carries the risk of robbing the player of the ability to do other things in game unrelated to this mod that require prestige. And stacking negative opinion modifiers like crazy is just going to end with the player in a game over. Remember, at this point plenty of players will not have expanded past that one county. Maybe they don't even want to. Anything that could lead to the player losing that last county of theirs must be a no go for me because of that.

 

1 hour ago, blargballs said:

Dreams of having the rival defeated by falling in love and ending up in a happy ending where you both end up more powerful and round on hold.

If it is weight gain you're after, Weight Gain and Consequences is probably more of a mod for you than this one. This mod will most likely only support that sort of content in a few events, never as a focus. Of course, you can always start making your own mod or submod and write weight gain scenes to your heart's content. Learning modding isn't terribly difficult. It mostly just takes some time to get into it. Should you want to go that route, I can help give you a few pointers and teach you the basics.

Edited February 25, 2024 by The Lord

[The Lord]

A new version so soon? Well, sort of.

 

Teeny-tiny update to add a functionality I meant to add on the last release but couldn't figure out. The clothing modifiers you can receive in some of the recently added events now actually visibly affect the clothing of the character in question. I also added two little scenes inspired by m8l85555x's and Rexie's suggestions (to trigger them, you have to have the maid rival around and have had your doppelganger ask you for helping them dress, as well as having indulged in their scent). Make sure to delete the previous version before installing this one.

Edited February 25, 2024 by The Lord

[The Lord]

Hotfix!

 

Made a mistake with the clothes for Indian cultures. This update adresses that issue. If you already downloaded the version from earlier today, please, update. I'm sorry for the inconvenience.

[The Lord]

Another very small update.

 

Added a compatibility patch for EPE for those people who care enough about the clothing modifiers from IMU actually visibly affecting characters to want such a thing. This is a "quick" and dirty compatch, mind you. This won't make use of all of the nice clothing EPE adds, as that would take me much more time than I am currently willing to invest. To install, simply drop the IMU folder found within the .zip into your mod folder like you would do with a regular mod and let it overwrite the file from the main mod when prompted.

 

Edit: Still looking for more ideas for events, by the way. If you have any I'd be interested in hearing them.

Edited March 3, 2024 by The Lord

[The Lord]

Update for the new patch.

 

Just a quick version number adjustment so the game stops complaining. Also split off a version for the old patch (1.11.5/Peacock) for people who still want to play with it. It is functionally identical to the one for the current patch. No content has been added. Since the EPE team will need some time to update their mod, there will be no EPE Compatibility Patch for the current patch for a while.

[The Lord]

Smol Update. Do you like visible changes? I like visible changes!

 

As I am largely out of ideas for events at the moment, I spent some time playing around with portrait modifiers some more and added two for the weight gain event, two general ones for the visible age of the player character and their doppelganger, as well as one pertaining to the rival maid. I also updated the EPE Compatibility Patch to the current version, this time with full support of all the cool clothing EPE adds! Also added two minor events for the rival maid while I was at it.

 

I am looking for feedback for the weight gain modifiers especially and whether or not people who make their character gain weight through the event find the effects to be too big.

[aeynia]

This has become a favorite mod of mine lately. I'm really interested in the potential once Roads to Power releases allowing playable landless characters

[The Lord]

An update? With actual content? No way!

 

Finished the identity loss story. Most of these events aren't strictly speaking adding anything new. Rather, they reflect on some of the choices you made along the way with the player character's identity either being reaffirmed, eroded, or lost depending on said choices. There is also another rival maid event in there for those who decided to be nice to her. With this update, I think I am satisfied with potential submissive endings for now (I'd like one more for the maid, and that's it; at least until Roads to Power comes out) and I will try to finally focus on the other paths in the coming updates. Unless, of course, I get some killer ideas from people or inspiration strikes me.

Edited April 11, 2024 by The Lord

[Clangeddon]

So I had this storyline going on pretty regularly but then it stopped suddenly...I didn't pick anything that shut it down, just stopped appearing. Last quest that popped up was where she was practicing 'being a thief'.

 

Thinking out loud, wondering if the Varangian move may have messed it up?

[The Lord]

2 hours ago, Clangeddon said:

So I had this storyline going on pretty regularly but then it stopped suddenly...I didn't pick anything that shut it down, just stopped appearing. Last quest that popped up was where she was practicing 'being a thief'.

 

Thinking out loud, wondering if the Varangian move may have messed it up?

I didn't account for the player moving during the intrigue practice. Normally, it wouldn't mess up anything anyway, as it will pick a random courtier, guest, or vassal and it is highly likely at least one of them will have a secret to reveal even after moving, but I will change the event to immediately pick the secret upon choosing to let her practice. I'll also make a fallback event for it in case something else goes awry. For now, I am afraid, you will have to wait for an heiress of yours to be eligible to trigger the doppelganger recruitment event again or start another run. I must apologise for the inconvenience.

 

As for no events popping up at all afterwards, this is a bug I have encountered but don't know how to fix. I don't even know what exactly triggers it, as I have run into this issue at different points during the story, so it is not above event itself. I also noticed it leaving me without events by other mods as well. Just nothing for an extended period of time. It will resolve itself eventually, but when exactly I can't tell either. Should you run into this issue, please, reload a save from earlier where you still got events normally.

Edited May 28, 2024 by The Lord