SexLab Hormones (January 2025)

[chevalierx]

1 hour ago, Yuni said:

Did we fix the coloring-player-anyways-even-if-you-turn-it-off bug in this iteration?

+1

the bug of hair color too

[DeepBlueFrog]

6 hours ago, chevalierx said:

+1

the bug of hair color too

I can't remember if I tested it or not. 

 

Can someone try the new version and tell me if it is still happening?

 

 

[baronesa]

Yep... black hair color on load is back

[DeepBlueFrog]

1 hour ago, baronesa said:

Yep... black hair color on load is back

Does it happen only on first load or also during the game?

[baronesa]

So far, every time i reload.. but would require more testing... maybe getting killed by insane wenches and reloading after death... heh

[DeepBlueFrog]

1 hour ago, baronesa said:

So far, every time i reload.. but would require more testing... maybe getting killed by insane wenches and reloading after death... heh

Try this:

 

- reset your hair color using showracemenu in the console for example

- as soon as you come back out, open the menu for Hormones and click on ‘Set default shape’

 

That should fix your hair color.

[Fawk]

Quick question about the Bimbo curse mechanics. When you get the text about "forgot about clothing and armor, should it be blocking my character from equipping them? 

 

Thanks, and this is a spectacular mode. 

[DeepBlueFrog]

7 minutes ago, fdavies67 said:

Quick question about the Bimbo curse mechanics. When you get the text about "forgot about clothing and armor, should it be blocking my character from equipping them? 

 

Thanks, and this is a spectacular mode. 

Nothing much should happen right now.

 

Eventually, wearing armor will increase the chance of tripping while running.

[Fawk]

I can't wait to experiment with the YPF integration. Nice work. It should add add a whole new element to it.

 

Later down the road, I think it would be cool to have the wives of married NPCs randomly brawl with the PC if they interact with their husbands, with a trip to jail or some other such event upon loss. This would be consistent with Honneys fate on the island somewhat and increase the risk for the PC a bit. 

 

 

 

 

 

[DeepBlueFrog]

4 hours ago, fdavies67 said:

I can't wait to experiment with the YPF integration. Nice work. It should add add a whole new element to it.

 

Later down the road, I think it would be cool to have the wives of married NPCs randomly brawl with the PC if they interact with their husbands, with a trip to jail or some other such event upon loss. This would be consistent with Honneys fate on the island somewhat and increase the risk for the PC a bit. 

 

 

 

 

 

Note that I added forced heels when the transformation is complete. I am still playing with YPF features and I may change that back or make it temporary.

[Nyalvalli]

Would it be feasible to have the "beg for sex" chastity gear aware? As in, when your character is wearing a belt, either restrict animations to those that are possible with it or have the NPC strip it if they have a key?

[DeepBlueFrog]

3 hours ago, Nyalvalli said:

Would it be feasible to have the "beg for sex" chastity gear aware? As in, when your character is wearing a belt, either restrict animations to those that are possible with it or have the NPC strip it if they have a key?

Not possible without a hard dependency on Devious Devices.

 

That kind of thing would be easier to do from a mod already using both DD and Sexlab aroused.

[Rogwar002]

I have a new game setup done. This time with hormones. I have a few questions because I have no clue how the features are supposed to work and it seems however the setup is done, there is no difference.

Perhaps there is something wrong with my setup or I missunderstood the idea.

- The haircoloring is a feature which should dye your hair due to the lack of sex or having sex. As far as I understood it should change like the color of the skin. In my setup YPS Fashion is part of the setup. I tried some things allready without sucess. The haircolor still remains as set during character creation or as dyed with yps fashion. Is this happening to other users as well? Bodycolor is working. Sam is tanned like in a comic

- the restrictions from the customization part of the MCM are not respected. Every night (even without the tickbox set to change the character at a fixed time) at 0:00 o'clock all limits are set to anything else; e.g. before 0:00 Breast swell max was set to 2.00; event at 0:01 triggers anyway and the limits are set to 3.00; feels like all limits are not stored but set to default. Or is there anything happening I´m not aware of? Feature?

Loading a save has the schlong max slider reset to 3.00. Everytime. Bug or feature?

- The initial charactersetup is discarded as soon as Hormones is starting the events? Because my starting charcter was flat as a surfboard in the beginning... ok... not as a surfboard...but flat.... C-cup?... yeah I´m a breast man. *shrug*  After the second night having fun in an inn and the city... and on the way to the city... and at the gate to the city...u know what I mean.... anyway after the second night the infobox showed 1.1800 and the breasts looked like 2.8. There was a messages "You are feeling more voluptous." changing the appearance in a way I don´t really like. Intended? I can restore my character. You made the tickbox. But is the idea really make a epic change every night? My setup includes Devious cursed loot. Bondage is common on my character. She will have sex, lots of. After the second night the message playing my little Sam looks like a silcon wonder. Both: boobs and ass.

I tried allready the smallest possible change in the customization area of the MCM. Still at 0:01 *boom* boobs are inflating like a rubberdoll.

 

To be sure I made a simple expiriment: My character is now level 10. More than two nights with the above mentioned message. After cleaning a cave and having 30 minutes left I decided to use a console command after saving: setpcsleephours 24. I just wanted to see what will happen with having no sex. Yep. nothing. no haircolorchange nor bodycolorchange. Still I have my tanned bimbo with a really uncomfortable amount of titflesh. some figures changed of course. Libidio... whatever that means. And of course the figures for breastnode, bellynode, buttnode and schlongnode. BUT: Reaching 1 in breast is not the same 1 as in the initial charactersetup. Why? intended? As you can assume I used the command more than once.

 

Don´t get me wrong: The work is great. I really love the idea. I´m just asking because I can´t get it to work as I want it to work. I love the SD+ mod and thougt with stories and body morph mod (hormones) the game play would be more...immersive? is not a good word here. But more the way I want my stupid little bitch running through skyrim.

It was really difficult to get the right idea to setup your mod with all the possibilties given (so many tick boxes doing things, I don´t believe they should do). First try ended with having torpedo boobs in a way your character enters a dungeon and the boobs are leaving allready... Wanna picture? still have a save.

 

I think my log won´t really help. If you ask, I´ll give it to you. But be warned: There ARE errors. I can´t fix all, because there are to much mods running on a single game. but if there are errors in my gameplay I try to figure them out and try to ask, if the mistake is mine and I have to live with it or if it is just a plain bug and I can help to solve the issue.

 

Enough of the text wall. Thank you SkyrimLL for many days of fun. Still my Skyrim playtime is increasing. Thank good: this year I didn´t reach my personal limit. Still Under 3000 hours play time in Skyrim *Phew*

 

If some other modders are reading this wall: Thank you all. If I were a little bit deeper into scripting and 3D design I would gladly provide every single minute of spare time for you. Because you all make it happen, that so many people can have a lot of fun. Thank you! Keep on your work.

[DeepBlueFrog]

The default settings are meant to show results quickly and to be used with the idea that more sex = less weight and larger boobs.

 

Depending on your body shape, you may want to adjust a few things:

 

- number of sex acts for High sex activity. The larger the value, the more progressive the changes.

- number of days without sex for Low sex activity. 

- the modifiers for each node. Since the default of NiOverride is to be multiplicative, keep these mods as close to 1 as possible for small changes (for example, 1.1 for small increases and 0.9 for small decreases)

- the modifier for the weight is additive by default. A negative value will cause a decrease in weight and a positive value will be an increase.

- check Node balancing if you are using Beeing Female, Estrus Chaurus and/or Parasites to adjust max sizes automatically or leave it unchecked if you want a hard limit to the max sizes of the nodes.

 

As a rule of thumb, weight change is applied only once a day (midnight) and is calculated based on the overall sex activity that day. Node scales are changed after sex by a small amount each time, and after midnight, also based on the overall activity that day.

 

Some events amplify the changes - pregnancy or being a succubus for example.

 

The hair color setting is there only for certain events, like the Bimbo quest (blonde) or my upcoming Sanguine quest (red). You shouldn't get hair color changes after sex.

 

If you have multiple mods using NiOverride, I HIGHLY recommend taking the time to edit the ini file to 'Largest' mode instead of the default 'Multiplicative'. That will keep you from oversized body parts.

 

See this for details: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/53219-sexlab-inflation-framework/?page=46

 

[baronesa]

2 hours ago, Rogwar002 said:

*snip*

Ok let me try what i do remember...  I'll probably get a few things wrong.

 

The Hair color change, as I understand it, is ONLY for the Bimbo curse, if you get that one, you will slowly become more and more blonde.

 

HAH same issue with the sliders for max size of body parts... *shrugs*

 

I think that is due to a conflict with another mod... It happened to me before, has not happened to me again after installing inflation framework... also make sure to select the right ways for Hormones to interact with other mods

 

for the lack of sex and high libido the calculations are different... for high sexual is x amount of sex acts a day... for  the other change you must be chaste AT LEAST 3 days before it happens (if you dont change any setting )

 

EDIT:

Hey Skyrimll, a couple of questions...

 

Besides the gender change under certain conditions... is there any other curse that is permanent after a while? And are there plans to make them like that?

Part of me would like the added tension of having Bimbo become permanent IF certain conditions are met (Maybe 3 in game months... more than generous time... right?) but on the other hand it really makes the game far more challenging...

[DeepBlueFrog]

34 minutes ago, baronesa said:

Ok let me try what i do remember...  I'll probably get a few things wrong.

 

The Hair color change, as I understand it, is ONLY for the Bimbo curse, if you get that one, you will slowly become more and more blonde.

 

HAH same issue with the sliders for max size of body parts... *shrugs*

 

I think that is due to a conflict with another mod... It happened to me before, has not happened to me again after installing inflation framework... also make sure to select the right ways for Hormones to interact with other mods

 

for the lack of sex and high libido the calculations are different... for high sexual is x amount of sex acts a day... for  the other change you must be chaste AT LEAST 3 days before it happens (if you dont change any setting )

 

EDIT:

Hey Skyrimll, a couple of questions...

 

Besides the gender change under certain conditions... is there any other curse that is permanent after a while? And are there plans to make them like that?

Part of me would like the added tension of having Bimbo become permanent IF certain conditions are met (Maybe 3 in game months... more than generous time... right?) but on the other hand it really makes the game far more challenging...

That's the plan - eventually, these curses will become permanent.

 

I am still trying to balance the effects. For example, I am currently adding more integration with YPS immersive fashion with more permanent features after a few weeks of transformation (make up locked in, hair color, bound heels).

 

Once I am done balancing them, the duration until they become permanent will be configurable in the menu.

[Rogwar002]

Thanks for the fast answers.

The idea of changing NiOveride to largest occured to me a long time ago, but of course it is a good tip.

The high sex activity slider is set wrong in my game. Will change that. I understood the slider to determine how many sex acts would initiate a body change. I had set it to 6 and thougt changes will apply whenever I had more than six acts. After your explaination I will change that to one.

Now I understand the hair modification slider. I will give the Bimbo curse a chance to see what will happen to my poor protagonist.

Thank you Baronessa. I read about the inflation mod, but until now didn´t think it would be nesesscary. I will give it a try. I tried to disable all body changing mods, as far there is a possibilty in having a tick box for that. DCL and Estrus is part of my set up and they change some things   DCL arousal change is unticked but Estrus+ is ticked. Might be possible that the 3 is coming from there because there it is set in case of pregnancy. But still this doesn´t explain the 3 for max schlong size... I will figure it out. as always.

 

For the bimbo curse becoming permanent journey:

After contact with Honey (or the Dremora outcast) Sam tried to ignore the urges that were becoming part of her thinking. A nice little fight or asassination job is the right thing to focus. Yeah. That will do. Running to the next city and claim a new job Sam entered the gates. All the sensations of the big city are rushing into her senses at once. There... in the middle of a market. What a hunk! She would like to suck his brains out.

Imgaine the rest... But not the hunks brain is altered but hers. Into more liking what she is doing. In figures act 1-10  just makes her a little more flirtarous. Act 11-30 makes her wanton. the arousal begging feature and the forced dialogues will make her have more and more sex. She cannot focus on magic. The magicka pool is drained (and should not recover) with every sex act. 31-60 will boost her araousal. She should be always aroused if there are potential partners around. If not set she should be set to bisexual in Sexlab. There is no possibility to use magic because she can´t focus. 60-100 She is fighting for the rest of her diminishing brain cells. Always begging for sex there is only one solution or she will be permanently transformed: a sex diet (no sex for at least [set figure here]). She will masturbate, because she is always horny. Giving in to those urges and every time a braincell will pop away. She will forget how to dress other than slutty. In game: she can only wear clothing. Armor will reduce her health and/or stamina. In later stages .. perhaps 90 sex acts... she will forget how to use weapons. Holding them ok, but the damage is the same as done from a 2 year old child. I think this should be possible by just using the ingame keywords.

Because she is looking around in skyrim for the thingy you need to cure the curse, sex will ubiquitary and time will run short to go from one end of skyrim to the other.

 

Just my two cent. brain went overdrive as I read about the curse being permanent under special circumstances

9 voices in my head are telling me, I´m okay... the 10th is humming the melody of Tetris

Kind regards

Rogwar

 

Edit: Inflation framework showed me, what I assumed. There is some kind of multiplicator at work. Don´t know what is the maximum setting for this one, but for a little bit of realism I set that one to max 1. Otherwise I think after one week running through skyrim and being enslaved poor old Sam will look like body with two balloons.

 

[DeepBlueFrog]

Rogwar - what you described is very close to what I am working on for the Bimbo curse.

 

My current test version increased the effects of the curse using YPS immersive fashion. I am working on making the changes to health, magical and stamina more drastic.

 

At full speed (and permanent effect), the bimbo will have magicka for illusion or restauration spells but magicka recovery will be very slow. Endurance will deplete quickly (but will recover over time). Health will recover by itself faster to compensate. She will also have large drains on most skills (except speechcraft or agility based ones).

 

Sex will be a way to accelerate recovery of magicka, health and endurance.

 

My vision for the full bimbo effect is to force the player to seek out one or many powerful followers to fight battles for her. It’s a different play style than in the default game.

[baronesa]

Uhmmm noticed something weird. Skyrim CTD each time i select Bimbo race as male or try to change from female to male. Was playing creating some presets and went to check Bimbo race and noticed this. Normally i play with it disabled on Hormones so I had not noticed this before.

[Rogwar002]

Ok, so I´m not the only one with a few weird thoughts. Nice to know

 

CTD by selecting a race. I don´t have to ask if your are using console util? Because race switch is running the racemenu.

To use the script gives your engine a really heavy peek. Maybe to much running at once? Tried already lowering the scriptload by deactivating some mods? Or try to trigger the change indoors. If that is working you can be sure its the load.

 

I figured finally out, what caused the issue with my body. I just am ashamed what was the real cause: Race menu Plugin (coming with the mod itself). I use this tool nearly all the time now. But don´t think I was ever aware of the fact, that there is maybe something wrong in my race menu having some sliders doubled. Deactivated the plugin, startet a new game, built a new body and almost everything is fine. Stupid me. Deserves me right to read a thread with 1000+ pages...found it eproxmiatly on page 580-590.

 

@SykrimLL: I have stories and hormones running. The devious story is having a slider for Lactating boobs. This is causing the distortion in the body setup. Everytime you update hormones (0:00 o´clock) you update Stories, too. I havent figured out (because I´m not this far in the game) why the boobs are changing, but still they do. And in doing this, they do it not correct, because I´m acutally not part of the story. All nipplepiercings become distored by the devious story update on boobs. In changing the Stories update in the Inflation framework (nice plugin by the way, new in my load order since the suggestion from Baronesa) back to 1, everything changes to normal. Perhaps you should have a look at this part of the code. In figures: first night from 1 to 1.45 and in the second night to 1.6. In the meantime hormones was changing the boobs from 1.000000 to 1.1xxxxx and the second night to 1.333775 (could read it; skyrim is running in the background ) 

 

Found the dremora on my "Little Bondage Adventure" triggerd by "Simple Slavery" in a small town... nice. Funny to play actually. No idea what will happen to me now. Some nights ago had little trouble with some vampires. Bound as I was, I´m now a Vampire fledgling...and a Succubus...hmmm... How this will work out, I have no idea. Good work. Thank you.

 

regards

Rogwar

[LinksSword]

idk why but when my character reaches 2nd stage of bimbofication, After the pink nails the game fps drops to 1 and i'm stumped why this is happening. And i can't seem to get around it, I feel like theres something wrong with slavetats maybe... YES IT IS don't know how to fix it though...

[LinksSword]

Alright turns out a setting deviously enslaved continued caused slavetats to go haywire for some reason. With that issue sorted i was wondering does being a bimbo increase arousal rate?

[Tyrgalon]

If I understand correctly the Balance nodes option should make Hormones ignore the hard cap in the settings of the mod and make it work with larger sizes/values when combined with other mods?

 

For me it keeps resetting or dividing the numbers by 10 so they fit into the mods max size values when the numbers go over it. Tried a bunch of different things but nothing seems to stop it from doing that

[LinksSword]

Has anyone tried playing the main story as a bimbo? how much of a challenge does that bring when your dropping things alot and other other events.

[CookingShow]

48 minutes ago, LinksSword said:

Has anyone tried playing the main story as a bimbo? how much of a challenge does that bring when your dropping things alot and other other events.

You can just uncheck the feature.

The weapon will still get sheathed, but at least you won't have to search for it.

But do remember that these things do occur more often the more aroused your character is, up to the point of it becoming actually impossible to play if you're at 100.

Also, channeled enemy spells that continuously damage you are also really ? ing annoying.