SexLab Hormones (January 2025)

[Ashra XIII]

 

Quick question about the Succubus thing:

 

I messed around with it long ago, but I thought it was just something I set in a menu option somewhere, but my mind is fuzzy. Is there a real side quest for the Succubus transformation in that it can happen due to in-game events (like the Bimbo quest), or is that not implemented yet?

 

It is!

 

Having sex with one of the "Outcast" triggered the slow transformation. Halfway through, if you have it, it will trigger Deadly Drain... and once the quest finish, it activates PSQ . Quite seamless really

 

At least on previous versions, no time to test the updates yet, but should have not changed

 

 

Neat!

 

That triggers a second question: How do Deadly Drain and PSQ work together? I don't believe I've ever used them together, since it seemed like they kinda try to do the same thing (draining sexual partners) and I was worried about conflicting scripts.

[DeepBlueFrog]

Hormones, Deadly Drain and PSQ work nicely together.

 

I am running a full on Bimbo, pregnant,  succubus test character with all three on at the same time and there is no issue so far.

 

I am not using some features from PSQ like soul gem pregnancy.

I also noticed that changing my height as a succubus increases the chances my character will fall temporarily under the ground.

 

As described above, succubus powers are granted seamlessly as you have sex with Dremora (including Sanguine) and with Outcasts.

 

Hormones comes with its own effects but they are subtle: heat and cold resistance (to be naked more easily), skill drain and puppet master charm (if you are using my patch to puppet master 1.7).

 

Halfway through the daedric exposure, Deadly Drain effects are granted.

Once you become a full succubus, PSQ powers kick in.

 

Oh.. and I added a catch with the latest version of Hormones.

 

If you run the Bimbo and Succubus quests together.. 

Once you are a Bimbo, Outcasts will refuse to cure you if you happen to be pregnant. You first have to deliver your offspring if you want to be turned back into a male.

 

The catch - if you turn into a succubus during that time, Outcasts will not cure you period - you will be stuck in a female shape.

 

[Ashra XIII]

Hormones, Deadly Drain and PSQ work nicely together.

 

I am running a full on Bimbo, pregnant,  succubus test character with all three on at the same time and there is no issue so far.

 

I am not using some features from PSQ like soul gem pregnancy.

I also noticed that changing my height as a succubus increases the chances my character will fall temporarily under the ground.

 

As described above, succubus powers are granted seamlessly as you have sex with Dremora (including Sanguine) and with Outcasts.

 

Hormones comes with its own effects but they are subtle: heat and cold resistance (to be naked more easily), skill drain and puppet master charm (if you are using my patch to puppet master 1.7).

 

Halfway through the daedric exposure, Deadly Drain effects are granted.

Once you become a full succubus, PSQ powers kick in.

 

Oh.. and I added a catch with the latest version of Hormones.

 

If you run the Bimbo and Succubus quests together.. 

Once you are a Bimbo, Outcasts will refuse to cure you if you happen to be pregnant. You first have to deliver your offspring if you want to be turned back into a male.

 

The catch - if you turn into a succubus during that time, Outcasts will not cure you period - you will be stuck in a female shape.

 

I really must try this. If you are disabling the PSQ pregnancy, are you using Beeing female, or something else?

[Alpha225]

Does the  TG transformation end at some point? ie. Does the PC eventually turn fully female?

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

Hormones, Deadly Drain and PSQ work nicely together.

 

I am running a full on Bimbo, pregnant,  succubus test character with all three on at the same time and there is no issue so far.

 

I am not using some features from PSQ like soul gem pregnancy.

I also noticed that changing my height as a succubus increases the chances my character will fall temporarily under the ground.

 

As described above, succubus powers are granted seamlessly as you have sex with Dremora (including Sanguine) and with Outcasts.

 

Hormones comes with its own effects but they are subtle: heat and cold resistance (to be naked more easily), skill drain and puppet master charm (if you are using my patch to puppet master 1.7).

 

Halfway through the daedric exposure, Deadly Drain effects are granted.

Once you become a full succubus, PSQ powers kick in.

 

Oh.. and I added a catch with the latest version of Hormones.

 

If you run the Bimbo and Succubus quests together.. 

Once you are a Bimbo, Outcasts will refuse to cure you if you happen to be pregnant. You first have to deliver your offspring if you want to be turned back into a male.

 

The catch - if you turn into a succubus during that time, Outcasts will not cure you period - you will be stuck in a female shape.

 

I really must try this. If you are disabling the PSQ pregnancy, are you using Beeing female, or something else?

 

 

Yes.. Beeing Female.

 

Does the  TG transformation end at some point? ie. Does the PC eventually turn fully female?

 

It does.

 

It takes a few days before the residual cock shrinks and fades away

[Guest]

Peaches isn't pregnant, but the succubus runs too deep within herself to be cured.

I'm not complaining, well I am but I could get used to it.

I used "racemenu" to sort of put her race back to normal.

so, succubae are bimbi forever? ("bimbae"?)

 

If I can wonder aloud for just a second, (thank you)

I wonder what special powers bimbusses might have.

[Deimos]

I attempted doing the bimbo path, but the body and scaling just don't match or come anywhere close to my normal body used, theres not a way to set up a replacer to use my normal body instead?

 

Update

Nevermind figured it out, just need to figure out some different hairstyles for it

[Blackness blackness is...]

Hormones doesn't have it's own succubus transformation. To get one, you pretty much need the PSQ files, but Hormones does activate PSQ when you become a full succubus.

 

 

huh does the transformation come with it's own looks from SH or is it PSQ custom file dependent?

 

 

 

thanks for clearing that up 

[baronesa]

 

 

 

Oh.. and I added a catch with the latest version of Hormones.

 

If you run the Bimbo and Succubus quests together.. 

Once you are a Bimbo, Outcasts will refuse to cure you if you happen to be pregnant. You first have to deliver your offspring if you want to be turned back into a male.

 

The catch - if you turn into a succubus during that time, Outcasts will not cure you period - you will be stuck in a female shape.

 

Question is... can you be cured of just the bimbo part somehow, but not the gender change... or is it an all or nothing kind of deal?

 

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

 

 

 

Oh.. and I added a catch with the latest version of Hormones.

 

If you run the Bimbo and Succubus quests together..

Once you are a Bimbo, Outcasts will refuse to cure you if you happen to be pregnant. You first have to deliver your offspring if you want to be turned back into a male.

 

The catch - if you turn into a succubus during that time, Outcasts will not cure you period - you will be stuck in a female shape.

 

Question is... can you be cured of just the bimbo part somehow, but not the gender change... or is it an all or nothing kind of deal?

Right now it is all or nothing, but I am planning on splitting the curse into three effects to allow more flexibility.

 

Eventually you will be able to ask the outcast to add or remove a schlong or cure the bimbo side while keeping the sex change.

[foreveraloneguy]

 

It won't fix the tattoo color - I am still struggling with color of skin layers.

 

Just curious, have you looked into using an overlay instead of the tint? Blush when aroused does it that way, and it looks quite good. And an overlay would give you dynamic control over color, saturation, everything.

[Unintentional]

At least for my game, Hormones 1.9 is interfering with Schlongs of Skyrim by hiding the player's schlong after several seconds of gameplay, and the player character has their body shape forcibly altered regardless of sex, seemingly reducing their weight and breast nodes at least. The shape override settings in the MCM refuse to work and the sliders cannot be moved left or right, all set to 0. Fiddling around with the other settings didn't do anything to solve either of these.

 

It also seemed to effect all schlongs in general, as I tried testing the SOS UNP and Equipable Horse Cocks addons on female characters and they too disappeared after a few seconds, so it's not just men.

 

After removing Hormones 1.9, schlong behavior went back to normal, didn't disappear, and the player's body wasn't being forcibly changed. I was originally posting about this problem on the SOS thread before I found that Hormones itself was causing the problem, and all my screenshots and logs about the problem are over there.

 

I did not have this problem in 1.8, and it's a shame that these bugs occurred since I enjoy using this mod.

 

And on top of this, a dumb question: I have put the xml for your CBBE Bodyslide preset in the SliderPreset folder, but nothing shows up on the Bodyslide program itself regarding it, yet any test presets I create in the program and save to the same folder work fine. Am I missing something?

[Budroi]

So when you made fixes and what not to hormones did you set the default change values to the (my prefered) settings I mentioned a page or so back?

The reason I ask is on my work pc i was still using 1.7 which i could use the save and reload trick to keep my settings.

But today on my work PC when i updated to 1.9 (cleaned save and all) the setting where practically what i would have changed them too.

Or did the clean save not actually clean out the hormones settings I had from 1.7.

Here is a picture of the 1.9 settings taken after the MCM populated.

 

If this is intentional, Thanks.

If not should I start a whole new game because something is messed up somewhere after making a clean save?

 

 

The screen was taken after I modified color change and armor\cloth shrink settings so those are not default.

[DeepBlueFrog]

One thing to look for with 1.9 is that it should prevent modifier values from going back to 0 after a while.. but if they were already set to 0 to begin with (because of 1.8's glitch), they will remain at 0 unless you change them manually.

[RedGhost55]

Hey I think I messed up somewhere, the weight scale is at zero and I can't change it, but everything else is fine, And when I change it manually it resets back to zero.

[ScorpiusX]

I've been playing v1.9 for a few hours now with PSQ and Deadly Drain installed aswell. I have a couple of questions.

 

1. When my male character is changed into a TG Bimbo (and later a Succubus) if I change her face by loading a preset, then colour change does not affect her face (if I leave her face as the default it does change), is there anyway around this?

 

2. Should I select "Become the Succubus" from PSQ's MCM or will Hormones do this at the appropriate time?  I ask this because in my current playthrough I activated  it myself and suddenly my character is killing people at the end of a sexual encounter even though drain to death isn't selected in either DD or PSQ. The way I see it there are 3 mods doing the draining now, so maybe theres something screwy happening between the mods.

 

A couple of things I noticed (don't know if these are intended or bugs). My TG Bimbo Succubus is no longer TG, I got the message that the transformation was complete and she was now fully female, however I got this notification twice, 1st was after spending time in the Riften jail and 2nd time was at midnight immediately following this. Hormones' Succubus Curse advanced a stage whenever I had a sexual encounter with an Outcast (haven't come across any other Daedra/Dremora yet). I was under the impression that the total number of encounters (with anyone) would advance it (maybe I hadn't had enough encounters to advance normally - just how many are needed btw?), if encounters with Daedra/Dremora do advance the stages regardless of the total number of encounters, then I hope its a feature and not a bug as this is a nice little shortcut for the player.

 

Everything else seems to be working as it should, although I haven't messed around with it too much atm, if anything else pops up during my playthrough I'll let you know.

 

Thankyou for your great mods btw. I've been using SD+ since I discovered LL and really enjoy it, I even like playing through the Blacksmith quest in SLDialogues every now and again and now I don't think Hormones will be getting uninstalled anytime soon.

[Ashra XIII]

I'm not sure what the heck is going on with my game, but sadly this mod just won't work for me.

 

I make a new male character and 2 things happen:

 

1) No matter what weight I pick, it is immediately set to zero as soon as I exit character creator.

2) My fellah starts with a schlong, but after a few seconds of mods activating, it disappears leaving him with a big gaping hole of nothingness.

 

I double-checked all my requirements and I can't see that I missed anything, but I did narrow the problem down to Sexlab Hormones by disabling this mod and then starting up a new game and making a male character. His weight stayed where I put it and he got a schlong. I then saved, quit the game, enabled Hormones, then loaded the game back up, and immediately he was reset to weight zero and his schlong disappeared.

 

In case it helps, I attached a log of when I loaded that save game with Hormones.

 

Papyrus.0.log

[Unintentional]

I make a new male character and 2 things happen:

 

1) No matter what weight I pick, it is immediately set to zero as soon as I exit character creator.

2) My fellah starts with a schlong, but after a few seconds of mods activating, it disappears leaving him with a big gaping hole of nothingness.

 

I double-checked all my requirements and I can't see that I missed anything, but I did narrow the problem down to Sexlab Hormones by disabling this mod and then starting up a new game and making a male character. His weight stayed where I put it and he got a schlong. I then saved, quit the game, enabled Hormones, then loaded the game back up, and immediately he was reset to weight zero and his schlong disappeared.

I've had the same problem happen to me, including starting the game with the coc command at the title screen with Hormones 1.9 active. Same applies to females, including them using schlongs from any addon. They also seem to get some nodes reduced on top of the weight set to 0, making them look like hungry skeletons.

[DeepBlueFrog]

I'm not sure what the heck is going on with my game, but sadly this mod just won't work for me.

 

I make a new male character and 2 things happen:

 

1) No matter what weight I pick, it is immediately set to zero as soon as I exit character creator.

2) My fellah starts with a schlong, but after a few seconds of mods activating, it disappears leaving him with a big gaping hole of nothingness.

 

I double-checked all my requirements and I can't see that I missed anything, but I did narrow the problem down to Sexlab Hormones by disabling this mod and then starting up a new game and making a male character. His weight stayed where I put it and he got a schlong. I then saved, quit the game, enabled Hormones, then loaded the game back up, and immediately he was reset to weight zero and his schlong disappeared.

 

In case it helps, I attached a log of when I loaded that save game with Hormones.

 

Papyrus.0.log

 

Issues with weight is completely new to me... it is and has been working fine for me for a long time.

 

I will need more details for that one.

 

Can you produce another log after a few sex scenes and at least sleeping/waiting past midnight once?

[Ashra XIII]

 

 

 

Issues with weight is completely new to me... it is and has been working fine for me for a long time.

 

I will need more details for that one.

 

Can you produce another log after a few sex scenes and at least sleeping/waiting past midnight once?

 

 

Okay, I created another new character, a female this time because I wasn't sure if I'd have the same issue with weight. I did; I set her at weight 90, exited character creation, and almost immediately she changed to weight 0. As such, I started a game in the Bee and Barb, then used DD Cursed Loot's solicitation to sex up some customers and see what happens. Here's the log:

 

Papyrus.0.log

 

One other thing... in the Hormones menu, there are lots of settings on the right side there, and I noticed I can't adjust any of them. I figured if I could put weight where I want it that would fix the problem, but nothing on the right side is adjustable. Everything on the left seems to be fine, and I can tick options on or off (even the 'display current status on the right).

 

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

 

 

 

Issues with weight is completely new to me... it is and has been working fine for me for a long time.

 

I will need more details for that one.

 

Can you produce another log after a few sex scenes and at least sleeping/waiting past midnight once?

 

 

Okay, I created another new character, a female this time because I wasn't sure if I'd have the same issue with weight. I did; I set her at weight 90, exited character creation, and almost immediately she changed to weight 0. As such, I started a game in the Bee and Barb, then used DD Cursed Loot's solicitation to sex up some customers and see what happens. Here's the log:

 

Papyrus.0.log

 

One other thing... in the Hormones menu, there are lots of settings on the right side there, and I noticed I can't adjust any of them. I figured if I could put weight where I want it that would fix the problem, but nothing on the right side is adjustable. Everything on the left seems to be fine, and I can tick options on or off (even the 'display current status on the right).

 

Hormones.jpg

 

 

 

Something is seriously wrong with values in storageUtil in your log - especially, min and max values are set to 0.

And not being able to change those sliders is not a good sign either.

 

What concerns me is that it is on a new character. 

 

I would expect this kind of thing when upgrading from an old version of Hormones without doing a clean save ... not on a new character.

 

Try clean save just in case since you are testing new characters.

 

Disable Hormones, start a new game without it and once you are all set with your character, enable hormones again.

[Ashra XIII]

I tried that before. If I start a game without Hormones installed, my character comes out normal and stays at whatever weight I set them to. If I then enable Hormones after saving, exiting, then starting the game up again, Hormones immediately sets my (already created) character to zero weight.

 

StorageUtil, hmm? I'll look at that.

[DeepBlueFrog]

I tried that before. If I start a game without Hormones installed, my character comes out normal and stays at whatever weight I set them to. If I then enable Hormones after saving, exiting, then starting the game up again, Hormones immediately sets my (already created) character to zero weight.

 

StorageUtil, hmm? I'll look at that.

 

Are you using a special race?

 

That's another thing to think about...

[Ashra XIII]

No, I don't use custom races. I'm just starting the game with the default Nord, not changing anything about them other than the weight.

 

EDIT: Oh, StorageUtil is the same as PapyrusUtil, right? I was using the default version that comes with Sexlab, but as part of my troubleshooting, I tried installing the latest version (2.8 I think) and letting it overwrite Sexlab's version in Mod Organizer.

 

Didn't change anything I'm afraid.

[DeepBlueFrog]

No, I don't use custom races. I'm just starting the game with the default Nord, not changing anything about them other than the weight.

 

EDIT: Oh, StorageUtil is the same as PapyrusUtil, right? I was using the default version that comes with Sexlab, but as part of my troubleshooting, I tried installing the latest version (2.8 I think) and letting it overwrite Sexlab's version in Mod Organizer.

 

Didn't change anything I'm afraid.

 

Ok...I will check the code again and see if there is a chance min and max values would be set to 0 by accident.

 

I will test on a new character too.

 

I am in the middle of splitting the curse into 3 curses for more flexbility, so I probably won't get to finish testing before the weekend.

 

On the bright side, it will make it possible to create mod events for other mods to cast a sex change, a TG effect or a full on Bimbo effect directly from Hormones.

 

I am thinking potions, mushrooms and other curses