SexLab Hormones (January 2025)

[TechBaNe]

Just noticed that the bimbo body is a UNP variant. Has anyone had any issues swapping the bimbo body with a CBBE body? I hope it's not a hassle since I really don't want to create an entire set of UNP armour for this one use. That would be a lot of work to do just for one little feature, as cool as the feature might be.

[DeepBlueFrog]

Just noticed that the bimbo body is a UNP variant. Has anyone had any issues swapping the bimbo body with a CBBE body? I hope it's not a hassle since I really don't want to create an entire set of UNP armour for this one use. That would be a lot of work to do just for one little feature, as cool as the feature might be.

 

You will have to replace the mesh and textures in the 'actors\character\SL_Hormones\Bimbo' folders and probably run showracemenu again to adjust the weight to remove the neck, wrist and ankle gaps.

 

On the other hand, I am using the Bimbo with a CBBE setup for everything else and there is no issue except the visual change from her UNP  shape when she is naked to a CBBE shape with armors.

[TechBaNe]

 

Just noticed that the bimbo body is a UNP variant. Has anyone had any issues swapping the bimbo body with a CBBE body? I hope it's not a hassle since I really don't want to create an entire set of UNP armour for this one use. That would be a lot of work to do just for one little feature, as cool as the feature might be.

 

You will have to replace the mesh and textures in the 'actors\character\SL_Hormones\Bimbo' folders and probably run showracemenu again to adjust the weight to remove the neck, wrist and ankle gaps.

 

On the other hand, I am using the Bimbo with a CBBE setup for everything else and there is no issue except the visual change from her UNP  shape when she is naked to a CBBE shape with armors.

 

Hmm, I'll give it a try when I get home. I borked my HDT setup (jiggle still works, but hair and collisions seem to have died somehow when cleaning up my save file) while updating a few mods, so I'll have to figure that out too. If all goes well, I'll give my toon a nice cootch to go with her new body.

[Budroi]

Looking at the logs, I think I know where the issue comes from.

 

I forgot I had to use new code from the beta version of SOS to add a schlong by script.

 

Try installing the latest beta for SOS from here:

 

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/23944-sos-schlongs-of-skyrim/page-160?do=findComment&comment=1167946

 

I have been using it for weeks now without issues and I completely forgot about it.

 

Any chance you could make a version that does not use code from the beta of SOS.

The new change\revert that was done concerning slot 52 ruins my game (from a visual\personal standpoint. It does not ruin actual running of the game) so I cannot use the beta version.

 

*the issue with slot 52*

With the new beta of SOS any armor that equips to slot 32 (body) automatically adds slot 52 to it upon equip.

For those who use armors that are parted (ie, slot 32 tank top, slot 52 panties) you are unable to wear the panties.

And while I know some would not mind running around with their lower half naked, my character does not like to walk around in only a shirt.

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

Looking at the logs, I think I know where the issue comes from.

 

I forgot I had to use new code from the beta version of SOS to add a schlong by script.

 

Try installing the latest beta for SOS from here:

 

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/23944-sos-schlongs-of-skyrim/page-160?do=findComment&comment=1167946

 

I have been using it for weeks now without issues and I completely forgot about it.

Any chance you could make a version that does not use code from the beta of SOS.

The new change\revert that was done concerning slot 52 ruins my game (from a visual\personal standpoint. It does not ruin actual running of the game) so I cannot use the beta version.

 

*the issue with slot 52*

With the new beta of SOS any armor that equips to slot 32 (body) automatically adds slot 52 to it upon equip.

For those who use armors that are parted (ie, slot 32 tank top, slot 52 panties) you are unable to wear the panties.

And while I know some would not mind running around with their lower half naked, my character does not like to walk around in only a shirt.

Unfortunately not for now.

 

What I could do is add a check and reduce chances of crash if you sing have the beta. You will have to set the schlong manually in that case.

[Budroi]

 

 

 

Looking at the logs, I think I know where the issue comes from.

 

I forgot I had to use new code from the beta version of SOS to add a schlong by script.

 

Try installing the latest beta for SOS from here:

 

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/23944-sos-schlongs-of-skyrim/page-160?do=findComment&comment=1167946

 

I have been using it for weeks now without issues and I completely forgot about it.

Any chance you could make a version that does not use code from the beta of SOS.

The new change\revert that was done concerning slot 52 ruins my game (from a visual\personal standpoint. It does not ruin actual running of the game) so I cannot use the beta version.

 

*the issue with slot 52*

With the new beta of SOS any armor that equips to slot 32 (body) automatically adds slot 52 to it upon equip.

For those who use armors that are parted (ie, slot 32 tank top, slot 52 panties) you are unable to wear the panties.

And while I know some would not mind running around with their lower half naked, my character does not like to walk around in only a shirt.

 

Unfortunately not for now.

 

What I could do is add a check and reduce chances of crash if you sing have the beta. You will have to set the schlong manually in that case.

 

 

That would not bother me.

 

just for clarification.

I should not have any problems with not using the SOS beta as long as I avoid the sexchange aspects?

[foreveraloneguy]

Can you explain the SOS bit in a bit more detail? SoS completely kills my game, not to mention it's not compatible with extensible follower framework, which I also use.

 

So what exactly do I need to do if using SoS light and I want to try the bimbo quest?

[DeepBlueFrog]

Can you explain the SOS bit in a bit more detail? SoS completely kills my game, not to mention it's not compatible with extensible follower framework, which I also use.

 

So what exactly do I need to do if using SoS light and I want to try the bimbo quest?

 

I have been using EFF and SoS for months without issues... where did you see they are incompatible?

 

I have not tested it with SoS Light so I can't answer there.

 

The SoS part is relevant only if you wan to have Transgender content, and even them if you don't have it installed, chances are the mod will still work but the Schlongs will be just missing.

 

Make sure to leave the Transgender option unchecked in Hormones menu to be sure.

[Zinker]

 

Can you explain the SOS bit in a bit more detail? SoS completely kills my game, not to mention it's not compatible with extensible follower framework, which I also use.

 

So what exactly do I need to do if using SoS light and I want to try the bimbo quest?

 

I have been using EFF and SoS for months without issues... where did you see they are incompatible?

 

I have not tested it with SoS Light so I can't answer there.

 

The SoS part is relevant only if you wan to have Transgender content, and even them if you don't have it installed, chances are the mod will still work but the Schlongs will be just missing.

 

Make sure to leave the Transgender option unchecked in Hormones menu to be sure.

 

 

I have caught something interesting yesterday while poking around at the mod and reading some items from this thread. I have tried the mod for console adaptation that you have recommended (Console Plugin 2, I think).

When running the ConsolePlugin and having UNP SOS enabled, when Blonde transformation happens its a 10/10 CTD for me. But here comes the fun part.

I am not using the UNP body, but CBBE and SOS for CBBE. I have noticed that while having my CBBE SOS enabled (full, not Lite), there is no conflict from the UNP wanting SOS plugin for Hormones.

I am not an expert by any lengths, but maybe it could be a body mismatch? Even if the option in the MCm for TG is disabled, I would still get the SOS attempt, it seems, and CTD.

If I would hard-disable UNP SOS plugin for Hormones in my Mod Manager, all is good, no CTD for either option checked in MCM.

 

- A different issue I am having is that I get both the Blonde and the SexChange transition, even if I don't have the Blonde box on and have an intercourse with Daedra Outcast.

 

- The last minor item, which I would guess is the one mentioned in currently not properly implemented item, is when any of the Plugin events occur, either Blonde SC or TG, character, when originally male, remain Male.

Actually not completely true. When Blonde is on, the Race about 60% of the time is swapped to Blonde race (P.S. LOVE the description and the stats on that!)

But I believe this is what was described with the issue with ConsolePlugin.

 

Otherwise, I have been using other mods on and off, but Hormones I keep on in 99% of situations.

Great mode and glad to see you have finally updated it.

I am a great fan of all of your modes, actually, but somehow Hormones is the most "fun" of all of them... Maybe because it is not straight-forward and you really don't know what to expect.

And your approach with using Git for it is even more genius, although I am not sure how efficiently Git stores, what seems like, binary data from compiled mod files. As a "code engineer" I really respect the professional and easy to maintain approach you take to your mods.

Please, keep up the great work (and update Hormones Mod more often ;])

 

Small Suggestion:

There is a Khajiit Speak mode (http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/14513/?), which you are most likely aware of, which modifies the speech of Khajiit player characters. It would be amazing to have a Blonde Speek mod to follow with the Blonde Curse. As you said it yourself, its the looks that improve the Speechcraft skills ("my eyes are up here"), not the actual speechcraft.

[baronesa]

Using latest released SoS (not the beta) and CBBE body, both the unp schlong for females and the hormones one. While using the console plugin, it refused to attach the schlongs to characters, regardless of gender, wile without the plugin the bimbo and smurf one worked perfectly on male body and bimbo and unp worked perfectly on female body.

 

I tried it again and once more on the Bimbo race, all schlongs appear as not available (so it does not assign them, and normal smurf schlong always appears floating in front of the female body)

 

Strange thing, this worked for me yesterday. No idea what happened.

 

EDIT:

 

as Zinker said...

 

"When running the ConsolePlugin and having UNP SOS enabled, when Blonde transformation happens its a 10/10 CTD for me. But here comes the fun part."

 

Same here when i deacrtivate TG option. Also, when this happens (without console plugin) it does not automatically remove the schlong (at least in my version of SoS... gonna test the beta soon )

[foreveraloneguy]

 

Can you explain the SOS bit in a bit more detail? SoS completely kills my game, not to mention it's not compatible with extensible follower framework, which I also use.

 

So what exactly do I need to do if using SoS light and I want to try the bimbo quest?

 

I have been using EFF and SoS for months without issues... where did you see they are incompatible?

 

I have not tested it with SoS Light so I can't answer there.

 

The SoS part is relevant only if you wan to have Transgender content, and even them if you don't have it installed, chances are the mod will still work but the Schlongs will be just missing.

 

Make sure to leave the Transgender option unchecked in Hormones menu to be sure.

 

 

The incompatibility is listed in the SoS FAQ. I confirmed it because I thought I'd try it anyway. Basically, your followers ignore whatever armor you give them for slot 32. That's aside from SoS full crashing my game on nearly every cell change.

[Arhon]

Simplifying SOS:

 

Vanilla Men in Skyrim = underwear but castrated(ouch) so they are essentially fucking you with their underwear on but without a penis...

 

Modded Men in Skyrim(with SOS) = Naked but have penis(Yey we can now plough women, I still pity Geralt he still doesnt have a penis and we are at " The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt), lets hope we can give Geralt his penis.

 

Irrelevant to Skyrim:

I get that Witches that infertile but that doesnt mean they are castrated..

[DeepBlueFrog]

Requesting some feedback.

 

Suppose you start as a male, become a bimbo, get impregnated  and ask to be changed back while you are still impregnated.

 

1- Should I block the transformation until you are back to normal? 

2- or should I transform you back anyway and leave it up to the mod that impregnated you to be smart enough to clean up the mess?

 

I tend to go with option 1.

 

Detection of pregnancy from other mods is easier than cleaning up after them.

[baronesa]

Requesting some feedback.

 

Suppose you start as a male, become a bimbo, get impregnated  and ask to be changed back while you are still impregnated.

 

1- Should I block the transformation until you are back to normal? 

2- or should I transform you back anyway and leave it up to the mod that impregnated you to be smart enough to clean up the mess?

 

I tend to go with option 1.

 

Detection of pregnancy from other mods is easier than cleaning up after them.

 

I go for option 1...

 

Hell... in fact if you were to write more quests for this... make "being pregnant" a condition to make the transformation or part of it permanent... as in... you can stop being a bimbo, but after being pregnant, cant go back to being a man(or a threshold 3 pregnancies or x amounts of days, so you have to work against time?). So... transformed guys... be VERY careful out there!

 

[pyjinbom]

1.

 

I'm loving what you have done with this already, but if you're looking to expand on the "quest" portion, perhaps Dibella could intervene and make some sort of wager wtih Sanguine. From the thread you mentioned as the inspiration for your Sisterhood of Dibella mod:

 

 

It would be great to have a storyline that perhaps focuses in spreading the love or one that focuses in a clash with a daedra prince. Sanguine comes to mind, given his nature for debauchery, where Dibellians see eroticism more like an art, Sanguine merely indulges in the pleasure.

 

It could be an interesting tie in.

[pihwht]

Requesting some feedback.

 

Suppose you start as a male, become a bimbo, get impregnated  and ask to be changed back while you are still impregnated.

 

1- Should I block the transformation until you are back to normal? 

2- or should I transform you back anyway and leave it up to the mod that impregnated you to be smart enough to clean up the mess?

 

I tend to go with option 1.

 

Detection of pregnancy from other mods is easier than cleaning up after them.

 

Number 1. If you are playing as a man and are transformed, it was with the understanding that Bimbo's have a chance of getting pregnant.

 

[Alploochra]

1-


@ pyjinbom

Aedras making any direct action or even talking to someone would be highly unlore-ish...

[Ashra XIII]

Requesting some feedback.

 

Suppose you start as a male, become a bimbo, get impregnated  and ask to be changed back while you are still impregnated.

 

1- Should I block the transformation until you are back to normal? 

2- or should I transform you back anyway and leave it up to the mod that impregnated you to be smart enough to clean up the mess?

 

I tend to go with option 1.

 

Detection of pregnancy from other mods is easier than cleaning up after them.

 

I'd say option 1, but I also like someone else's suggestion that something like pregnancy might make the gender transformation irreversible, though the bimbo part could still be cured. I really dig the notion that there are just some things which 'cross the line' and prevent a return, maybe even from Bimbo-ism at all, which is what happened to Honey.

[foreveraloneguy]

Requesting some feedback.

 

Suppose you start as a male, become a bimbo, get impregnated  and ask to be changed back while you are still impregnated.

 

1- Should I block the transformation until you are back to normal? 

2- or should I transform you back anyway and leave it up to the mod that impregnated you to be smart enough to clean up the mess?

 

I tend to go with option 1.

 

Detection of pregnancy from other mods is easier than cleaning up after them.

 

Definitely 1. And some punishment for trying to do something stupid

[baronesa]

Tested transformation only with gender change, no bimbo or TG selected, and it worked perfectly.

 

Just FYI

 

Noticed something with the bimbo shape/race. At least on my end the Hormones tint when having sex was not applied to feet, hands and head. Sometimes feet and hands worked but the head never updated. No idea if it is on my end or not, but does not seem to happen with my normal CBBE shape

[DeepBlueFrog]

Thanks for the suggestions.

 

I like the idea of making some changes irreversible based on what you do while transformed... pregnancy, child birth, becoming a succubus, etc.. these should have consequences.

 

I will have to split up the bimbo, sexchange and TG effects into separate effects that can be turned on or off (or locked in) separately.

Another rewrite in sight but that will be worth it and will make the simple quest more complex without making the whole thing too complicated.

Tested transformation only with gender change, no bimbo or TG selected, and it worked perfectly.

 

Just FYI

 

Noticed something with the bimbo shape/race. At least on my end the Hormones tint when having sex was not applied to feet, hands and head. Sometimes feet and hands worked but the head never updated. No idea if it is on my end or not, but does not seem to happen with my normal CBBE shape

 

I noticed that too sometimes... I think it is script lag.

 

Thanks for the tests and feedback.

Also, Sanguine is already involved but indirectly.  I don't want to spoil it for those who haven't tried it yet.

 

I can't force the use of a certain type of pregnancy but I can try to detect pregnancy mods and react to them kicking in.

[baronesa]

Ok... tried now with SOS beta... and while using the Bimbo race, all the schlongs appear with the * as if they were not compatible with the body, no matter which gender was selected on racemenu.

 

Another interesting thing. I tried to load only SOS and the Bimbo schlong, and this one was completely invisible. I added the normal UNP schlong for females, and both schlongs appeared in game.

 

Hope this helps.

 

EDIT: I read some time ago someone asking for a transformation into a fetish/rubber doll... This system you have here seems to me would be perfect for that.

 

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Side Note, totally unrelated: Had 240 or so esp, and things were super stable, but whenever I tried to add PSQ it made all saves unusable. Removed a few mods (Moonpaths, Wyrmstooth and Falskaar) and PSQ worked ok. This really puzzle me, since I had 250 esps at one point before i combined a lot of clothing mods.

[TechBaNe]

Swapping the bimbo meshes with some bodyslide customs worked pretty well, just the standard need to change the body textures to match as well. Love how the TG aspect of this works, although I'm having the same issues with the schlongs.

 

For a game that encourages exploration, there's not much on the side of consequences. I think the permanent transformation if you do something dumb part is great.

 

@ baronesa: I think this is the request you were talking about? http://www.loverslab.com/topic/47315-ideareq-rubber-dollification/?hl=dollification

[foreveraloneguy]

On the schlongs; do you really need to use the full sos? Or could you make it work with sos equipable schlongs? I'm just wondering because that one seems to be very compatible. But then I don't know what functionality you're using from the full sos, so I'm likely talking out my ass. Nor do I know how much work would be required to change. But I was really hoping to play around with the TG stuff.

[4nk8r]

A small request from someone already running 255 mods (SLH already among them), please don't add additional ESP's.  Instead I would request you add new features to your existing SLH ESP.  I've tried to merge as much as I can via TES5Edit, but afterwards that doesn't always work as expected.  Thank you.