Aki K Posted July 11, 2023 Posted July 11, 2023 I was in the beginning of the dawnguard DLC questline when I noticed that after using the device that awakens Serana, my characters default facial expression changed. Her mouth just hangs open now. Nothing I can do resets it. If I open racemenu she'll close her mouth, I can adjust expression using sliders etc. But then when racemenu closes her mouth hangs open again. I tried installing FEP and using various debugs. I tried resetting the sexlab expression registry. Cannot seem to get this to be fixed. Please help. (Side note: I've noticed that this same problem occurs with Maven and her daughter by default and they're even worse, but since I don't hang around with them often it never bothered me. But if you know the solution to this too, it would be helpful" Her mouth should be closed. 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Andy14 Posted July 12, 2023 Posted July 12, 2023 16 hours ago, Aki K said: Cannot seem to get this to be fixed. Please help. I think some dirty script gave you a magic effect. You should be able to check in the console whether a magic effect is effective. Otherwise, sometimes a player.resurrect in the console helps. Hard cases can sometimes only be cleared up again with the death of the player (player.kill).
Aki K Posted July 12, 2023 Author Posted July 12, 2023 4 hours ago, Andy14 said: I think some dirty script gave you a magic effect. You should be able to check in the console whether a magic effect is effective. Otherwise, sometimes a player.resurrect in the console helps. Hard cases can sometimes only be cleared up again with the death of the player (player.kill). I checked for a magic effect. Couldn't find one. Tried dispell all spells. Resurrecting the player character can sometimes result in other issues that might make the fix worse than the problem. Might be good for testing the source of the problem but potentially breaks the file. Killing the player loads a previous save basically. While that does remove the problem, it still means that when I progress the quest to that point the issue will happen again.
Andy14 Posted July 12, 2023 Posted July 12, 2023 Just now, Aki K said: Killing the player loads a previous save basically this is far more than just loading the last saved game. Just now, Aki K said: Resurrecting the player character can sometimes result in other issues Resurrect on the player does not cause problems but can make problems visible. In other words, if resurrect (on the player!) causes a problem, you should urgently revise your mods and take a look at the papyrus.log.
phreak187 Posted July 12, 2023 Posted July 12, 2023 If you're on LE try mfg console - Mfg Console at Skyrim Nexus - Mods and Community (nexusmods.com) (in console click on player then type mfg reset) or if you're on SE/AE try mfg fix. - Mfg Fix at Skyrim Special Edition Nexus - Mods and Community (nexusmods.com) (same command mfg reset.)
Aki K Posted July 13, 2023 Author Posted July 13, 2023 17 hours ago, Andy14 said: this is far more than just loading the last saved game. Resurrect on the player does not cause problems but can make problems visible. In other words, if resurrect (on the player!) causes a problem, you should urgently revise your mods and take a look at the papyrus.log. Doesn't resurrect reset all active effects? Some of those active effects are supposed to be there.
Aki K Posted July 13, 2023 Author Posted July 13, 2023 17 hours ago, phreak187 said: If you're on LE try mfg console - Mfg Console at Skyrim Nexus - Mods and Community (nexusmods.com) (in console click on player then type mfg reset) or if you're on SE/AE try mfg fix. - Mfg Fix at Skyrim Special Edition Nexus - Mods and Community (nexusmods.com) (same command mfg reset.) I will try this later today.
Aki K Posted July 14, 2023 Author Posted July 14, 2023 On 7/12/2023 at 3:10 PM, Andy14 said: this is far more than just loading the last saved game. Resurrect on the player does not cause problems but can make problems visible. In other words, if resurrect (on the player!) causes a problem, you should urgently revise your mods and take a look at the papyrus.log. As predicted: this removed all active effects from my character, making more than half of my adult mods inapplicable to the save file. Additionally, it did not fix the facial expression. On 7/12/2023 at 3:23 PM, phreak187 said: If you're on LE try mfg console - Mfg Console at Skyrim Nexus - Mods and Community (nexusmods.com) (in console click on player then type mfg reset) or if you're on SE/AE try mfg fix. - Mfg Fix at Skyrim Special Edition Nexus - Mods and Community (nexusmods.com) (same command mfg reset.) This did not work either. It resets the players face briefly, but the problem is that the "default" face has been changed. Meaning that after any other facial expression, conversation, shout, etc. the mouth reverts to hanging open.
donttouchmethere Posted July 14, 2023 Posted July 14, 2023 (edited) On 7/11/2023 at 11:15 PM, Aki K said: 00FacialExpressions.esp ? OH! You installed that after the expression was stuck already ? Wait... if you installed it later, how did it end up in the middle of your LO ? Edited July 14, 2023 by donttouchmethere
phreak187 Posted July 14, 2023 Posted July 14, 2023 Well hmm if you're willing could try to unequip everything and attempt to use recycleactor on yourself. I had this bug too way back in LE that drove me nuts. I think the was my last ditch attempted fix.
donttouchmethere Posted July 14, 2023 Posted July 14, 2023 Maybe try this: clean your SKSE co save with NetImmerse Override Cleaner (and clean your ess while at it) Other than that, the LO looks like it was made for screen archery, while trying out new mods, while trying out various races, while wildly shuffling mods in LO. I would only be surprised if you don't get glitches. You're lucky that it's just a smile =D
Aki K Posted July 15, 2023 Author Posted July 15, 2023 On 7/14/2023 at 3:02 PM, donttouchmethere said: ? OH! You installed that after the expression was stuck already ? Wait... if you installed it later, how did it end up in the middle of your LO ? No i mean I tried to use it to reset the facial expression. It was already installed before. On 7/14/2023 at 3:11 PM, phreak187 said: Well hmm if you're willing could try to unequip everything and attempt to use recycleactor on yourself. I had this bug too way back in LE that drove me nuts. I think the was my last ditch attempted fix. "recycleactor "? Is that a mod of a command? On 7/14/2023 at 3:24 PM, donttouchmethere said: Maybe try this: clean your SKSE co save with NetImmerse Override Cleaner (and clean your ess while at it) Other than that, the LO looks like it was made for screen archery, while trying out new mods, while trying out various races, while wildly shuffling mods in LO. I would only be surprised if you don't get glitches. You're lucky that it's just a smile =D How to clean SKSE and such? Didn't even know those could be cleaned or had to be cleaned. Not sure what you mean by the second point by "screen archery." While I do try out new mods here and there, I wasn't aware that any of these were incompatible or couldn't be mixed. I also use LOOT to handle the load order. So it isn't wildly shuffled in, the order largely stays the same.
donttouchmethere Posted July 15, 2023 Posted July 15, 2023 21 minutes ago, Aki K said: How to clean SKSE and such? Didn't even know those could be cleaned or had to be cleaned. SKSE related settings from mods get saved into the SKSE co save. This can get bloated. If the stuck facial expression is parts of such a bloat there is a chance it gets removed from the SKSE co save after cleaning. If a mod add the expression on purpose, then cleaning won't help much. If you never checked your save or cleaned your co save it's worth a shot, if not for this issue you have at least the tools for the next one ^^ Links in chapter 7: Spoiler
donttouchmethere Posted July 15, 2023 Posted July 15, 2023 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Aki K said: While I do try out new mods here and there, I wasn't aware that any of these were incompatible or couldn't be mixed. If you mix unknown mods you will always have the issue that you can't know if it's a bug or a feature. Means you can't be aware of anything until you try the combination out and experience what the mods do ingame. A hint can be found often in mod topics or the amount of bug reports on nexus or the amount of patches needed just to make the mod work in a LO with more than one mod. For example: The smiling face expression could come from a mod that adds an asylum and is a sign of your progressing madness. (I doubt that, but that would actually awesome) Edited July 15, 2023 by donttouchmethere
phreak187 Posted July 15, 2023 Posted July 15, 2023 Oh sorry, recycleactor is a console command just select yourself in console then type recycleactor.
Aki K Posted July 16, 2023 Author Posted July 16, 2023 19 hours ago, donttouchmethere said: If you mix unknown mods you will always have the issue that you can't know if it's a bug or a feature. Means you can't be aware of anything until you try the combination out and experience what the mods do ingame. A hint can be found often in mod topics or the amount of bug reports on nexus or the amount of patches needed just to make the mod work in a LO with more than one mod. For example: The smiling face expression could come from a mod that adds an asylum and is a sign of your progressing madness. (I doubt that, but that would actually awesome) Ah that makes sense. Since I don't change my mod set often I usually tend to know which ones cause which issues. I don't have many mods that deal with facial expressions and to my knowledge I haven't installed any new ones in a very long time. So I'm not really sure what suddenly went wrong. Aside from clothing mods, the only changes to my load order recently have been updates of existing mods like Submissive Lola, etc. And I was working with a new clean save. Unfortunately I haven't played the vampire quest in a long time. And since the facial expression issue is apparently only triggered by the button that wakes up Serana, it's possible this glitch has been around for a loooong time and I just never caught it. But, since I've managed to avoid the expression bug on almost every other major quest...I decided to revert to a previous save and use console commands to skip that quest. Not a full and proper solution, and I maintained a save to test for other fixes and such...but at least I have a fixing save and a playing around save now. 18 hours ago, phreak187 said: Oh sorry, recycleactor is a console command just select yourself in console then type recycleactor. I will give it a try.
donttouchmethere Posted July 18, 2023 Posted July 18, 2023 Did it get worse or progress? Maybe SLS and your facial expression mod interact in mysterious ways?
Anunya Posted August 4, 2023 Posted August 4, 2023 On 7/17/2023 at 9:18 PM, donttouchmethere said: Did it get worse or progress? Maybe SLS and your facial expression mod interact in mysterious ways? That's a blast from the past... IIRC the problem I had was that Blush When Aroused didn't play well with Dynamic Face Expressions. I think Dynamic Face Expressions has a fix, but I also found the Blush When Aroused caused issues in general, so had to remove it from my load order all up.
OsmelMC Posted September 11, 2023 Posted September 11, 2023 On 7/14/2023 at 2:42 PM, Aki K said: This did not work either. It resets the players face briefly, but the problem is that the "default" face has been changed. Meaning that after any other facial expression, conversation, shout, etc. the mouth reverts to hanging open. The default player expression can be changed on the showRaceMenu. The changes on the RaceMenu use it's own method and none of the MFG functions can reset the RaceMenu parameters while the RaceMenu parameters will have impact on the expressions settled with the MFG or the Skyrim internal function. The only way is open the RaceMenu manually and set all the expression parameters back to they default values.
Aki K Posted September 11, 2023 Author Posted September 11, 2023 1 hour ago, OsmelMC said: The default player expression can be changed on the showRaceMenu. The changes on the RaceMenu use it's own method and none of the MFG functions can reset the RaceMenu parameters while the RaceMenu parameters will have impact on the expressions settled with the MFG or the Skyrim internal function. The only way is open the RaceMenu manually and set all the expression parameters back to they default values. The problem is that the expression I have set in racemenu is not being treated as the default. The character's mouth randomly opens, but if I use racemenu, it shows me the facial expression I'm supposed to have. I can alter the expression so that the mouth is closed but the mouth will still randomly open. Alternatively I can make it so the mouth is disfigured, so that an "open mouth" looks closed. But since the open mouth is not a constant but a random occurrence, then I deal with a disgifured mouth from time to time. Unfortunately the only solution so far is reverting the save and not doing the dawnguard questline, or using console commands to skip any part that requires using the hand spike switch. But that sucks because I have a home mod that relies on that switch to open and close doors.
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