Heromaster Posted September 4, 2013 Posted September 4, 2013 Hello, I'm going to create a mod with a story which is centered about becoming a prostitute and slavery. The idea is to create another dark side to the hero. Let her passion for sex and bondage become known in Skyrim and its bounds and let her live with the consequences (positives and negatives). It will have some possibilties to have mutually agreed-to sex, getting raped and becoming a slave. But not because you can, but because it adds to the immersion of the quests you can experience. The goal is that sex, slavery and rape scenes are there to support the questline and not the other way round. But before you get too excited, here is the catch: I only develop this story for female characters. Problems are: The story would look really stupid if you could play the exact same story as a male character Specific story relevant items are not (yet) available for male characters Thats why. Now I want to focus on the story and deliver it to the all the people who are interested in it. If the mod is finished, I can try to change the story so that it fits for male characters (Which might never happen). Ok, let's move on. Ideas and partially developed backstory: The spouse If you are married and you decide to work as a prostitute, problems may arise. Depending on your decisions, you may get real trouble with him/her. Trouble ranges from refusing sex with you, chit-talk about you, putting you in chastity, finding a lover and humilate you by having sex in front of you. As you progress through the game, it can have negative and positive outcomes for you. Examples: He/She will hire someone to rape you. He will follow you, whereever you are and strikes when you don't expect it. Word that you are a whore spreads much faster and opens up side quests you otherwise would not get The oldest profession in the world Become a prostitute, work your way through the many clients who wants to pay for your services. Word about you is spreading, depending on your performance and the satisfaction of your (read: Madame's) clients. Eventually people who thinks your profession might help them to solve a big problem, want to talk to you and offer you special quests. Backup fact: Regardless of your profession, you are a hero for the people and whether they shit-talk about you behind your back or not, they see in you a problem solver (Some actually might look up to you and are impressed that you live your life as you want and not as the perfect normal citizen expects). You start your career in Whiterun and may given the option to work in all main cities and becoming Skyrim's most wanted whore. Later on, you might want to retire and start the management aspect of the business itself, thus granting you access to extra income, special items/buffs etc. As before, your level of awareness will have consequences. Damsel in distress I couldn't resists to give the quest this name. Prerequisite: Having a certain level of awareness as prostitute. Someone comes to you and wants your help. His daughter got caught by slavemasters. You are ordered to free her. Since you are a prostitute, he thinks you would fit best to find a way into their camp without alerting them before she gets sold to a master. This is a quest where you have alot of choices how to handle the quest. It is very likely you will fail this quest at the first run and this what I expect. That said, this is one of two main quest to become a slave or not. It is your choice how you handle it, and plans are that you can solve the quest even without becoming enslaved. But to be honest, this will become really hardcore and I expect you to fail it many, many times. I worked on alot of alternative paths if I can implement them all, you can solve this quest at least four times each with a different outcome. WiP Status: Sidequests: 0/2 Mainquests: 0/2 SideQuest 1 Branches finished: 3/4 Scenes finished: 4/6 Notes: SexLab roughly integrated Scenes are working, in need of polishing later
CGi Posted September 4, 2013 Posted September 4, 2013 Nice idea. i hope you know what you put yourself into, with this project. Would be a shame if you have to abandon it.Anyhow, you might want to take a look at the ActorEvents Framework, to ensure compatibility with other mods. i'm certain, that SD2 and at least 2 or 3 other mods will support it and those mods cover parts of what your mod does, which might lead to incompatibilities. ActorEvents is a framework, that enables cross-compatibility between mods, w/o the mods having to know of each other, as long as they run thru this framework.
masseffect Posted September 4, 2013 Posted September 4, 2013 Awesome. That's exactly the kind of mod I want to play, a player slavery quest with multiple paths.
sashalag Posted September 4, 2013 Posted September 4, 2013 I love the idea, is kinda the mod I would make if I was not so lazy to learn how to use the CK and stuff I like the concept that the sex scenes will be there as a complement, and not as the main thing. I like that things like selab framework exist, but I miss more story-line adult quests. I´ll be keeping an eye at your mod´s progression
Captain Oblivious Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 "The story would look really stupid if you could play the exact same story as a male character" You mean like Mass Effect? "Do you really want to see alot of gay scenes?" Some of us wouldn't mind. That also seems like it wouldn't happen unless the player was using a male PC in the first place. Do you have a problem with that? I understand that it's annoying to write out two sets of dialog--I was doing exactly that when I was working on my since aborted Oblivion mod and it added a lot of time--but locking male characters out completely seems silly. I'm sure they wouldn't mind just dealing with misplaced pronouns.
Heromaster Posted September 5, 2013 Author Posted September 5, 2013 I only ME1 and this is long time ago. I didn't catched the reference. But yes, it would look stupid, I need to write another set of dialogues to fit it for males, At least from my point of view. But that said: I'm open to opinions about it: Is Skyrim a truely medieval setting? Then I would need to rewrite a large chunk of dialogues to fit the story. If not, I don't have to explain much like working as a waiter in a tavern (There were no waiters back in the medieval age afaik). I know that nowadays fantasy games stick to the idea to include options for M/M and F/F romances and love but most times it does look ... well stupid because they are not well written. Ok, in Skyrim no romance is well-written And no, I don't have anything against people being gay. Maybe this statement in my OP came out a bit wrong. What I mean is, while female characters will do have straight scenes as well as gay scenes, male characters do have almost no straight scenes. It would be, as of right now, out of proportion if you know what I mean.
darkevilhum Posted September 6, 2013 Posted September 6, 2013 I think this sounds like an idea I've been waiting for! Combing the slavery/rape scenarios into a story, much like what I expected the quest mod 'Dark Investigations' to progress into. Though the author of said mod set his bar for quality and such very high which greatly impedes the speed of development. A story is cool of course but that doesn't mean people interested will say no to seeing their Dragonborn on a leash in some cellar with a shady fellow or two . In other words, If you can keep the overall mechanics simple whilst keeping visual content and story equal, then implementing all your cool path/choice ideas, it could be very cool!
Adam Jensen Posted September 6, 2013 Posted September 6, 2013 While this sounds amazing, I fear that you might be trying to do a bit too much. Just remember to have fun while doing this and don't push yourself to make a deadline, otherwise you might end up crashing and burning. Good luck !
Heromaster Posted September 6, 2013 Author Posted September 6, 2013 Ty all for the kind words and likes. I know that my idea will take time. I know that it is alot of work and I'm sure I will need some help here and there. Currently I'm implementing the first part of the. Right now it is relativly easy. But I think I will need alot of help to setup scenes. I tried it today, but I miserably failed to even make a very short scene. But, I do like challenges and I try to learn as much as possible from others. Also I could use help with translations. I have some skills in English but to translate it from German to English would make my progression even slower.
ViolaTAL Posted September 6, 2013 Posted September 6, 2013 Fantastic idea honestly. I really hope to see this come to fruition.
CGi Posted September 6, 2013 Posted September 6, 2013 Ty all for the kind words and likes. I know that my idea will take time. I know that it is alot of work and I'm sure I will need some help here and there. Currently I'm implementing the first part of the. Right now it is relativly easy. But I think I will need alot of help to setup scenes. I tried it today, but I miserably failed to even make a very short scene. But, I do like challenges and I try to learn as much as possible from others. Also I could use help with translations. I have some skills in English but to translate it from German to English would make my progression even slower. Vielleicht kann ich Dir, bei der Übersetzung aushelfen.
Nairos Posted September 6, 2013 Posted September 6, 2013 Do you really want to see alot of gay scenes? YES. Oh yes, the more the better! As for the other points, I wouldn't mind if you could play the exact same story as a male character, my char is pretty girly anyway. Specific story relevant items are not (yet) available for male characters, well that is worse then. I still hope whatever you're doing CAN be played as a male PC, even if it's not adapted for it.
Heromaster Posted September 6, 2013 Author Posted September 6, 2013 Vielleicht kann ich Dir, bei der Übersetzung aushelfen. That would be great. I would contact you, when I have finished parts of the story, where the dialogue script is fixed (or needs just a few correctures in the future). YES. Oh yes, the more the better! As for the other points, I wouldn't mind if you could play the exact same story as a male character, my char is pretty girly anyway. Specific story relevant items are not (yet) available for male characters, well that is worse then. I still hope whatever you're doing CAN be played as a male PC, even if it's not adapted for it. I could do that, no problem. As long as you don't mind recognised as a girl I can remove the restriction. For the story specific items, there a only a few, so I could forbid those paths in the story without changing the story. You would just see a few less dialogue lines and choices.
Lyman the Lunatic Posted September 7, 2013 Posted September 7, 2013 Well I like seeing my female chars. in distress so the 1st & 3rd really really gets my interest. Not that I'm not interest with the 2nd one, I do have a char. that I planned on giving her that life, but most of mine will go to 1 or 3. By the way, how will 1 & 3 interacts? As you said you expect people to fail & be enslaved. So you mentioned the spouse will spread rumors & such for being a prostitute, what will the spouse do if our chars are enslaved? I'm looking forward to see your work.
CGi Posted September 8, 2013 Posted September 8, 2013 Vielleicht kann ich Dir, bei der Übersetzung aushelfen. That would be great. I would contact you, when I have finished parts of the story, where the dialogue script is fixed (or needs just a few correctures in the future). Feel free, to do so.
SkatingJesus Posted September 8, 2013 Posted September 8, 2013 Well I like seeing my female chars. in distress so the 1st & 3rd really really gets my interest. Not that I'm not interest with the 2nd one, I do have a char. that I planned on giving her that life, but most of mine will go to 1 or 3. By the way, how will 1 & 3 interacts? As you said you expect people to fail & be enslaved. So you mentioned the spouse will spread rumors & such for being a prostitute, what will the spouse do if our chars are enslaved? I'm looking forward to see your work. Exactly my point. I like to make my female PC a "pure" girl, not a prostitute, but unlucky, and make her getting captured and enslaved. Like a lot of people, I'm waiting for the famous "Dark Investigations" mod, and the slave chapters, but another enslavement mod is always welcome! Hope your mod will be as you expect!
Heromaster Posted September 8, 2013 Author Posted September 8, 2013 I updated the OP, the mod is now a WiP although far away from a release state yet. Vielleicht kann ich Dir, bei der Übersetzung aushelfen. That would be great. I would contact you, when I have finished parts of the story, where the dialogue script is fixed (or needs just a few correctures in the future). Feel free, to do so. Great, I think in two weeks or so I could need your help. Well I like seeing my female chars. in distress so the 1st & 3rd really really gets my interest. Not that I'm not interest with the 2nd one, I do have a char. that I planned on giving her that life, but most of mine will go to 1 or 3. By the way, how will 1 & 3 interacts? As you said you expect people to fail & be enslaved. So you mentioned the spouse will spread rumors & such for being a prostitute, what will the spouse do if our chars are enslaved? I'm looking forward to see your work. Exactly my point. I like to make my female PC a "pure" girl, not a prostitute, but unlucky, and make her getting captured and enslaved. Like a lot of people, I'm waiting for the famous "Dark Investigations" mod, and the slave chapters, but another enslavement mod is always welcome! Hope your mod will be as you expect! I got your point. I agree, it fits the mindset of Skyrim, where you can do whatever you want to do without being forced to do something in your quests you don't want to do (Besides the main quests of course). I did not really considered it, but I will keep that in mind about an alternative so you are not be forced to whore the fuck out of Skyrim to open other quests of this mod
lurkerfrombelow Posted September 10, 2013 Posted September 10, 2013 I got your point. I agree, it fits the mindset of Skyrim, where you can do whatever you want to do without being forced to do something in your quests you don't want to do (Besides the main quests of course). I did not really considered it, but I will keep that in mind about an alternative so you are not be forced to whore the fuck out of Skyrim to open other quests of this mod This sounds great, will definetely be keeping an eye on this mod from now. My character would never decide to become a whore (nor is she married). She would, however, help an unfortunate man to prevent his daughter suffering such a horrible fate. She probably wouldn't even realize that she'd likely be forced into sex during it, much less how real the risk of ending up a slave herself is
sashalag Posted September 10, 2013 Posted September 10, 2013 I got your point. I agree, it fits the mindset of Skyrim, where you can do whatever you want to do without being forced to do something in your quests you don't want to do (Besides the main quests of course). I did not really considered it, but I will keep that in mind about an alternative so you are not be forced to whore the fuck out of Skyrim to open other quests of this mod This sounds great, will definetely be keeping an eye on this mod from now. My character would never decide to become a whore (nor is she married). She would, however, help an unfortunate man to prevent his daughter suffering such a horrible fate. She probably wouldn't even realize that she'd likely be forced into sex during it, much less how real the risk of ending up a slave herself is Yup, damsel in distress is always better for a DB hero than have to whore for the money I think a DB could whore if she was not the DB yet (before killing the first dragon), I think is possible to make different questslines for different character levels, but the questlines would always end with the PC enslaved
Heromaster Posted September 10, 2013 Author Posted September 10, 2013 Yup, damsel in distress is always better for a DB hero than have to whore for the money I think a DB could whore if she was not the DB yet (before killing the first dragon), I think is possible to make different questslines for different character levels, but the questlines would always end with the PC enslaved This will be a longterm goal. To implement different storylines is not an easy task because for every alternative the work increases expontionally. Even considering different dialogue lines depending on the progress in the game alone is alot of work to since you have to keep track what you have done to prevent awkward moments in the story (plot holes for example). So far the entry quest, as we talking, considers 4 different stages of the game and the questgiver will react to each condition differently. You are fairly new to the game and have no money in your pocket You are rich You completed "Dragon Rising" 2 and 3
lurkerfrombelow Posted September 10, 2013 Posted September 10, 2013 Ah, yes, the classic RPG writer's dilemma; the more character variables you react to, the more awesomely immersive it will be, but implementation will be just as much harder. If you're planning to go to that level of detail, I can see it won't be as easy as suggesting us damsel/pure types just start out at the second quest with no prostitution awereness or skill. Still, I'm heartened that it will eventually be a goal and will be waiting patiently for it.
sashalag Posted September 10, 2013 Posted September 10, 2013 Ok, if that will supose less work and faster developing, I will be a whore then, and I won´t say anything more about being a pure damsel...(in fact my DB is not pure anymore with all the Sexlab plugins installed in my HD....) :D :D
Heromaster Posted September 13, 2013 Author Posted September 13, 2013 A small highlight in my actual progression. I'm currently working on a dance scene and wanted to show you the progress. This scene is 50% finished. Sry in advance for the bad video quality but the recording software didnt wanted to record it in fullscreen and in windowed mode it slowed my computer down. [media]http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x14navq_test[/media]
DaHALOSHOCK Posted September 13, 2013 Posted September 13, 2013 A small highlight in my actual progression. I'm currently working on a dance scene and wanted to show you the progress. This scene is 50% finished. Sry in advance for the bad video quality but the recording software didnt wanted to record it in fullscreen and in windowed mode it slowed my computer down. [media]http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x14navq_test[/media] will the mod be in English because i cant read the dialog in the video?
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