Bimbos Of Skyrim LE/SE

[jib_buttkiss]

On 10/16/2024 at 11:22 PM, HMM265GS said:

This could be a "me" thing but I just updated BoS for the first time in a few months and now the body morphs are not working on myself or my follower.

 

My character just did the forced genderbend. I went to preview the body sizes and none worked (all testing done naked).

 

After some testing I found the body morphs are not working in all these conditions (using SLIF):

• On myself after re-registering my PC
• On myself after re-installing SLIF
• On my follower pre and post PC genderbend

 

I noticed that `CCBimbo` never appears in the SLIF mod list for myself or my follower. Other mods (Milk Mod, etc) are appearing at appropriate times but not this one.

I tried updating my character's values manually and that didn't seem to work though I was mostly guessing. I went to SLIF, selected my PC as the actor, updated all primary node values from 1 to 2.5 and selected "update character" and nothing happened.

 

This may not be a BoS issue at all, I'm not sure, but any help is greatly appreciated.

 

Odd. Out of curiosity, what if you try disabling SLIF?

 

On 10/17/2024 at 11:43 AM, Snook001 said:

Hi,

 

Thanks for the reply, but I don't see that button🙁, I see the add spell, but it is not a self spell, I can only cast it on NPC.  Am I missing something, like a  older version which need to be active🫤.  Thanks for your time. 

 

It's the Add Debug Spells button, or something like that.

 

17 hours ago, audhol said:

I looked at Scent of sex and could'nt  get my head round it, creating rules to me seems more complicated that making a quest with a forcegreet package in CK. I appreciate the effort you put in to get it to work but what happens to the other Bimbos? Does it only trigger when the player is is range to see the trigger? Is it like the tree falling in the forest? 

 

To be completely honest I never played bimbos to the point of having a bimbofied character but having looked at the quests bimbos are topic locked when they have high arousal right or when the "be a good girl" quest is active and then its a dialogue option?

 

A bimbo will never actively seek sex unless the player initiates dialogue with an npc IIUC?

 

Do non pc bimbos start dialogue with another NPC to initiate an SL scene without Scent?

 

What would be the correct sequence? For the Bimbo to be alluring and the npc to start dialogue or for the bimbo to initiate first contact?

 

 

Scent of Sex lets you define "rules" that it will use to generate random sex scenes and conversations. It has a couple of complexity levels you can use, but the main thing is that it's all done through the MCM ingame, so people who don't use the Creation Kit at all can make their own scenes. For example, before I made BoS, I'd customise Serana to look like a bimbo then use Scent of Sex so that she'd randomly give blowjobs if her arousal was high.

 

PC bimbos get topic locked on a timer, so every few hours they have to do a bimbo dialogue, and then it's an optional dialogue outside that.

NPC bimbos use Skyrim's Scene system to occasionally approach other NPCs and ask for sex.

 

16 hours ago, Wut1969 said:

3. I'm not sure I understand that remark. I don't think BoS has a mechanism for Bimbos to start scenes (yet).

 

 

It does, as of one of the more recent versions. NPC bimbos will approach NPCs and ask them for sex, using Skyrim's default Scene system.

[DrSeptimus]

When would new version be release? Would it be at Christmas? Would be great if there is a huge content at the end of the year.

[ebbluminous]

Christmas Bimbo! We need!

[MellowDrama]

Hi,
What is an effect I can easily use a condition for dialogue for when the player is a bimbo?

(one that takes the tonic into acount)

[moutymoo]

1 hour ago, MellowDrama said:

Hi,
What is an effect I can easily use a condition for dialogue for when the player is a bimbo?

(one that takes the tonic into acount)

You can probably use the magic debuff effects the player recieves during the curse. I've seen them used as OAR behaviour conditions in the Bimbo Demeanor mod, though I have no idea if that translates well as conditions for dialogue

[MellowDrama]

1 hour ago, moutymoo said:

You can probably use the magic debuff effects the player recieves during the curse. I've seen them used as OAR behaviour conditions in the Bimbo Demeanor mod, though I have no idea if that translates well as conditions for dialogue

I was thinking about this sorta thing.

and if that's how demeanor does it then im assuming it's gonna be just fine.

thanks.

[LadyManticore12]

On 10/16/2024 at 2:40 AM, jib_buttkiss said:

 

Not without making an edit to the .esp in XEdit, unfortunately. Creation Kit doesn't support having that value (the minimum time until a scene can replay) be dynamic.

 

 

You mentioned OBody before- that mod causes lots of problems with the morphs so it could be that.

 

 

There should be, but it sounds like it's not working. I'm looking into it at the moment.

 

EDIT: Can you try using the console command player.setfactionrank xxAE92CB 9 ?(where xx is the load order of this mod, you can do help CC_ to look at what it is for all the mod's other forms). Let me know if it fixes the problem or not.

 

That seems to have done the trick. I played for about an hour & went through another advancement & it kept my hair. Thank you!

[Wut1969]

14 hours ago, jib_buttkiss said:

It does, as of one of the more recent versions. NPC bimbos will approach NPCs and ask them for sex, using Skyrim's default Scene system.

@audhol; As I suddenly gained insight; the rule I have for Bos Bimbos is mostly for BoS NPCs like Anaita and Buttslut etc, so they can approach men. I haven't seen Anaita approaching men with Bos (in this playthrough my PC so far stayed mostly in the Whiterun area) and there aren't any bimbofied NPCs yet.

 

If @jib_buttkissstarts implementing more scenarios for BoS, obviously I can remove the rule from Scent of Sex, or maybe remove it completely.

 

In this playthrough the majority of Scent of Sex rules are there to have men initiate sex. The first rule can be fired by essentially all men, and they will relucantly ask a female for sex. The next rule demands the males arousal to be above 15 and is already a bit more daring. This goes up and the last rule can only be executed by males with arousal over 90. So if there are a lot of aroused males, all of the rules can be fired and if there aren't, essentially nothing will happen.

If Bimbos start appearing, either by BoS or SSX, the whole thing will blow up. Well, that's the plan anyway.

 

 

[LearningNoob]

Should I be worried about these errors (roughly 2/min):

 

[10/19/2024 - 03:24:05PM] Error: alias bimboVictim5 on quest cc_bimbofynpcv2 (394DAFD4): Cannot force the alias's reference to a None reference.
stack:
        [alias bimboVictim5 on quest cc_bimbofynpcv2 (394DAFD4)].ReferenceAlias.ForceRefTo() - "<native>" Line ?
        [alias bimboVictim5 on quest cc_bimbofynpcv2 (394DAFD4)].ReferenceAlias.ForceRefIfEmpty() - "ReferenceAlias.psc" Line 30
        [cc_bimbofynpcv2 (394DAFD4)].cc_bimbofynpcv2.OnUpdate() - "cc_bimbofynpcv2.psc" Line 72

 

[audhol]

On 10/18/2024 at 3:22 PM, jib_buttkiss said:

Scent of Sex lets you define "rules" that it will use to generate random sex scenes and conversations. It has a couple of complexity levels you can use, but the main thing is that it's all done through the MCM ingame, so people who don't use the Creation Kit at all can make their own scenes. For example, before I made BoS, I'd customise Serana to look like a bimbo then use Scent of Sex so that she'd randomly give blowjobs if her arousal was high.

 

PC bimbos get topic locked on a timer, so every few hours they have to do a bimbo dialogue, and then it's an optional dialogue outside that.

NPC bimbos use Skyrim's Scene system to occasionally approach other NPCs and ask for sex.

 

On 10/19/2024 at 8:33 AM, Wut1969 said:

s I suddenly gained insight; the rule I have for Bos Bimbos is mostly for BoS NPCs like Anaita and Buttslut etc, so they can approach men. I haven't seen Anaita approaching men with Bos (in this playthrough my PC so far stayed mostly in the Whiterun area) and there aren't any bimbofied NPCs yet.

Yeah OK I get it its a way for the player to build their own random interactions without having to have any CK knowledge.

 

I will give it another try at some point but I think for me it would be like using one of my own mods, just not fun as all you see is the data that you put into it. Its not like a suprise that you get from someone elses work.

[wssb2024]

Quick question: body shape

 

I want to change the shape of the morph, the original is too big for meXD

I believe the screenshot shows the deformed data, but I'm not sure how it should be changed：（

How should I change the data if I want three-quarters of the original size?-chest size；）

 

[Wut1969]

Just now, audhol said:

 

Yeah OK I get it its a way for the player to build their own random interactions without having to have any CK knowledge.

 

I will give it another try at some point but I think for me it would be like using one of my own mods, just not fun as all you see is the data that you put into it. Its not like a suprise that you get from someone elses work.

I made some of the rules so that I can't really predict what is going to happen;

 

Lets say I have some rules that could fire at the same time;

1: there is a chance that a male NPC approaches a female NPC each interval and she will accept in percentage1 of the cases. When she doesn't, the male will accept that or start masturbating. There is a very slight chance he will force her. Up to 1 NPCs may watch.

2. there is a chance that a male NPC approaches a female NPC each interval and she will accept in percentage2 of the cases, When she doesn't, the male will accept that. When sex happens, up to 3 NPCs may watch and males may start masturbating.

3. there is a chance that a male NPC with a very high arousal approaches a female NPC and she will accept. Up to 5 NPCs may watch.

 

Obviously there aren't going to be a 100 totally different outcomes, nobody will start dancing, run to the jarl, or change into a dragon or something like that, but with each approach I can't predict what is going to happen.

If you also add a couple of rules for NPCs like Anaita, wenches and other females, the diversity increases to the point that you do get surprises. Especially when you add a few oddball rules with a lower chance.

You just have to add more rules, and the feeling of looking data will decrease.

 

And compared to modding and having to look at data 100% of the time, it's actually not that bad.

 

My 2 cents and YMMV etc.

[Miauzi]

44 minutes ago, wssb2024 said:

Kurze Frage: Körperform

 

Ich möchte die Form des Morphs ändern, das Original ist zu groß für meXD

Ich glaube, der Screenshot zeigt die deformierten Daten, bin mir aber nicht sicher, wie sie geändert werden sollen:（

Wie soll ich die Daten ändern, wenn ich drei Viertel der Originalgröße möchte?-Brustumfang；）

 

 

Generally speaking, -> reduce negative values and increase positive values

If, for example, I want my character to have a smaller waist through the bimbo transformation -> I have to set a negative value

A negative value in the breast area means a REDUCTION!

If the breasts are to be larger but not as much as in the default settings, you have to make the positive values -> smaller - but not negative

The only thing that helps here is experimentation... and looking at all the sliders for the body in the bodyslide program (especially those for the upper body/chest area).

Here you can also move the sliders to test... to see (in the preview) what each of them does.

I, and probably others, cannot provide you with ready-made values for your desired character "free of charge".

[wssb2024]

23 minutes ago, Miauzi said:

 

Generally speaking, -> reduce negative values and increase positive values

If, for example, I want my character to have a smaller waist through the bimbo transformation -> I have to set a negative value

A negative value in the breast area means a REDUCTION!

If the breasts are to be larger but not as much as in the default settings, you have to make the positive values -> smaller - but not negative

The only thing that helps here is experimentation... and looking at all the sliders for the body in the bodyslide program (especially those for the upper body/chest area).

Here you can also move the sliders to test... to see (in the preview) what each of them does.

I, and probably others, cannot provide you with ready-made values for your desired character "free of charge".

get it，thank you sir

[jib_buttkiss]

On 10/19/2024 at 3:32 AM, DrSeptimus said:

When would new version be release? Would it be at Christmas? Would be great if there is a huge content at the end of the year.

 

Depends on how big of a version. I have a v1.8.3 planned for a week or two which has some minor new content and a bunch of fixes. As for 1.9, who knows.

 

On 10/19/2024 at 5:50 AM, MellowDrama said:

Hi,
What is an effect I can easily use a condition for dialogue for when the player is a bimbo?

(one that takes the tonic into acount)

 

If whatever you're doing can reference globals, I usually do CC_IsPlayerBimbo == 1 && CC_IsPlayerBimboSuppressed == 0 for an actively bimbofied player.

 

On 10/19/2024 at 3:22 PM, LadyManticore12 said:

 

That seems to have done the trick. I played for about an hour & went through another advancement & it kept my hair. Thank you!

 

Oh, good! Now I know where the issue is to fix it!

 

20 hours ago, LearningNoob said:

Should I be worried about these errors (roughly 2/min):

 

[10/19/2024 - 03:24:05PM] Error: alias bimboVictim5 on quest cc_bimbofynpcv2 (394DAFD4): Cannot force the alias's reference to a None reference.
stack:
        [alias bimboVictim5 on quest cc_bimbofynpcv2 (394DAFD4)].ReferenceAlias.ForceRefTo() - "<native>" Line ?
        [alias bimboVictim5 on quest cc_bimbofynpcv2 (394DAFD4)].ReferenceAlias.ForceRefIfEmpty() - "ReferenceAlias.psc" Line 30
        [cc_bimbofynpcv2 (394DAFD4)].cc_bimbofynpcv2.OnUpdate() - "cc_bimbofynpcv2.psc" Line 72

 

 

Nah, those are fine.

 

1 hour ago, audhol said:

I think for me it would be like using one of my own mods, just not fun as all you see is the data that you put into it. Its not like a suprise that you get from someone elses work.

 

There's an element of that, yeah.

 

1 hour ago, wssb2024 said:

Quick question: body shape

 

I want to change the shape of the morph, the original is too big for meXD

I believe the screenshot shows the deformed data, but I'm not sure how it should be changed：（

How should I change the data if I want three-quarters of the original size?-chest size；）

 

 

The values are linear, so you can just scale them. For example, if you want the "breasts" scale to be three quarters of what it is now, -0.8 x 0.75 = -0.6.

Make sure you keep the magnitudes correct ("breasts" has a -0.8, so keep it negative, but "breastssh" is positive), since LE Racemenu has some, but not all, of it's values inverted for some reason.

 

You can also use the Preview Morphs button in the MCM to see how your settings will look.

 

To see what each slider actually does load up Bodyslide and play with the sliders for them there. I can't really explain the difference between "breastssh" and "breasts" in text!

[wssb2024]

1 hour ago, jib_buttkiss said:

The values are linear, so you can just scale them. For example, if you want the "breasts" scale to be three quarters of what it is now, -0.8 x 0.75 = -0.6.

Make sure you keep the magnitudes correct ("breasts" has a -0.8, so keep it negative, but "breastssh" is positive), since LE Racemenu has some, but not all, of it's values inverted for some reason.

 

You can also use the Preview Morphs button in the MCM to see how your settings will look.

 

To see what each slider actually does load up Bodyslide and play with the sliders for them there. I can't really explain the difference between "breastssh" and "breasts" in text!

Does this mean I can customize Miss Dragonborn's slut body?🤔

Slim, bodybuilding Miss Dragonborn, cursed to melt her muscles, slowly turns into a bit of a fat bitch.

Instead of simply blowing up balloons😍

[Wut1969]

Once again some very minor things I noticed;

 

- I kinda hoped to see bras in the streets as well as panties after the redistributing of underwear.

- My PC applied the salve without the gloves, and nothing (noticable?) happened.

- With the hypno quest, my PC was able to deduct she was being hyponized directly after opening the chest, even before she received any of the letters. Ideally, I'd say she figures it out after receiving the 2nd one.

 

 

[Balgin]

1 minute ago, Wut1969 said:

Once again some very minor things I noticed;

 

- I kinda hoped to see bras in the streets as well as panties after the redistributing of underwear.

- My PC applied the salve without the gloves, and nothing (noticable?) happened.

- With the hypno quest, my PC was able to deduct she was being hyponized directly after opening the chest, even before she received any of the letters. Ideally, I'd say she figures it out after receiving the 2nd one.

 

 

Were you carrying any gloves? The mod doesn't check if you're wearing them. It simply checks if you're carrying any.

[H Bof]

14 minutes ago, Wut1969 said:

- My PC applied the salve without the gloves, and nothing (noticable?) happened.

 

Applying salve with no gloves just gives you some nice doses of corruption for each time you do it, so if you had a super low level of corruption before doing it then chances are nothing really noticeable happens. Especially if you have your corruption status hidden in the MCM.

[Wut1969]

Just now, Balgin said:

Were you carrying any gloves? The mod doesn't check if you're wearing them. It simply checks if you're carrying any.

 

Just now, H Bof said:

 

Applying salve with no gloves just gives you some nice doses of corruption for each time you do it, so if you had a super low level of corruption before doing it then chances are nothing really noticeable happens. Especially if you have your corruption status hidden in the MCM.

 

I was carrying them, not wearing them and I do have the corruption status hidden. Hmm... I was kinda hoping for a small increase in breast size, but corruption is -not- good news.

Oh well, time to find some more gems. 🤷‍♂️

[Miauzi]

Vor 3 Stunden sagte Wut1969:

Wieder einmal sind mir einige sehr kleine Dinge aufgefallen;

 

- Ich hatte irgendwie gehofft, nach der Umverteilung von Unterwäsche sowohl BHs als auch Höschen auf der Straße zu sehen.

- Mein PC hat die Salbe ohne Handschuhe aufgetragen und es ist nichts (bemerkenswertes?) passiert.

- Mit der Hypno-Quest konnte mein PC direkt nach dem Öffnen der Truhe schließen, dass sie hyponisiert wurde, noch bevor sie einen der Briefe erhielt. Im Idealfall würde ich sagen, dass sie es herausfindet, nachdem sie das zweite erhalten hat.

 

 

 

Now - what is also noteworthy (and I wrote about this here a few weeks ago) -> if the character has very long fingernails (from YPS) - he cannot equip gloves at all... and the mod refuses to apply the ointment to the chest.

The result of this -> the quest gets stuck here... you can only progress with the setstage command.

 

[jib_buttkiss]

7 hours ago, wssb2024 said:

Does this mean I can customize Miss Dragonborn's slut body?🤔

Slim, bodybuilding Miss Dragonborn, cursed to melt her muscles, slowly turns into a bit of a fat bitch.

Instead of simply blowing up balloons😍

 

Yep, completely! As long as you don't break the .JSON format, you can add any slider from the body you use to that list. The ones there by default make your Dragonborn into a bimbo that I like, but you could totally add the "belly" slider and make her get fat.

 

3 hours ago, Wut1969 said:

Once again some very minor things I noticed;

 

- I kinda hoped to see bras in the streets as well as panties after the redistributing of underwear.

- My PC applied the salve without the gloves, and nothing (noticable?) happened.

- With the hypno quest, my PC was able to deduct she was being hyponized directly after opening the chest, even before she received any of the letters. Ideally, I'd say she figures it out after receiving the 2nd one.

 

 

 

- I'm not sure that people would pick up and wear random underwear they found in the street! But they should be left lying where you put them at least.

- Apparently this has some issues (yeah Balgin's ahead of me here). It's on my list of issues to investigate/fix for 1.8.3. I've been meaning to make it so that it gives you a "sore hands" debuff for a little while as well.

- Yeah, it's sort of obvious, isn't it? But for the structure of the quest to work I just railroad you into not realising. It's a porn mod, I'm no game designer!

 

7 minutes ago, Miauzi said:

 

Now - what is also noteworthy (and I wrote about this here a few weeks ago) -> if the character has very long fingernails (from YPS) - he cannot equip gloves at all... and the mod refuses to apply the ointment to the chest.

The result of this -> the quest gets stuck here... you can only progress with the setstage command.

 

 

As I said last time, the quest does not get stuck because of this. Equipping gloves is completely optional. If your YPS nails prevent you equipping gloves, then you suffer the consequences of not using them and the quest progresses as normal.

[Miauzi]

Vor 24 Minuten sagte jib_buttkiss:

Wie ich letztes Mal sagte, bleibt die Quest dadurch nicht hängen. Das Ausrüsten von Handschuhen ist völlig optional. Wenn Ihre YPS-Nägel Sie daran hindern, Handschuhe auszurüsten, müssen Sie die Konsequenzen tragen, wenn Sie sie nicht verwenden, und die Quest verläuft wie gewohnt.

 

Even if the gloves are "just" in the inventory... the fingernails not only prevent you from putting the gloves on - but also from "rubbing in" the lotion at all!

So there is NO progression in the quest - the fingernails BLOCK... that is an incompatibility between BoS and YPS.

 

P.S.

I'm now withdrawing from this thread for a while... my wife had a very serious bicycle accident 3 days ago with a complicated arm fracture.

And yes - my home country Germany is now a third world country - so far 2 hospitals (the EMERGENCY ROOMS) have refused to treat the fracture surgically... tomorrow we'll make the 3rd attempt.

I've spent more than 16 hours in the emergency room in the last 2 days... my nerves and my health are at their limits.

 

[mopsyd]

On 11/18/2022 at 2:45 AM, jib_buttkiss said:

Well... that's not good. Can you figure out any info as to why? I definitely want to fix a crash bug, but with nowhere to start looking I'll probably never find it.

 

 

I might add a dialogue option to the followers to take their heels off, like their hair wig. That way the player can't directly remove them, but they can still be taken off to allow other boots if preferred. I already made the player's heels removable (or at least I thought I did, I'll check and make sure I didn't forget too...)

 

I'll look into integrating with YPS for the future. For now, the slavetats are implemented in the simplest possible way, so the best way to run both would be to just go to the slavetats menu and remove this mod's tattoos as soon as they're applied so there's not overlap.

 

For Fertility Mode, that could just be one of those SE things, but we'll see what happens when I have a play with sliders for SE. Maybe I should add a toggle to block this mod's body changes completely to allow other mods to handle it.

 

 

Yep, the alias for the note hasn't filled. It's because updating the mod doesn't retroactively set new aliases for existing quests.  I really should have done something to solve that, but, well, I didn't.

 

You can fix this and get the note by entering these console commands:

 

resetquest cc_bimbofetchquest

setstage cc_bimbofetchquest 30

 

and then going and talking to Anaita. This resets and re-completes the quest again, but the alias filled this time. A bit of a hack but for a quest this simple it'll do.

This fixed an issue I had been having for a week or two. I went to get the note for Anaita, and either Obis or SPID replaced the generic bandit carrying the letter with an over-leveled bandit chief (I was level 6, the bandit was level 35 for god knows what reason), so I just booked it out of there and didn't think of it for about 20 levels, at which point I went back to find the quest marker pointing to an empty spot on the ground. I also had this same issue with one of the targets for Deviously Kidnapped for the revenge quest, which I was able to resolve by reverse referencing the actor id from the quest, moving them to me, re-enabling them and then finally killing them.

Maybe use a named bandit in an upcoming patch to prevent this sort of bug. It's not really this mods fault per se, but it's also not unreasonable to expect unnamed bandits to be fair game for replacement by other mods.

[Wut1969]

12 hours ago, Miauzi said:

 

Now - what is also noteworthy (and I wrote about this here a few weeks ago) -> if the character has very long fingernails (from YPS) - he cannot equip gloves at all... and the mod refuses to apply the ointment to the chest.

The result of this -> the quest gets stuck here... you can only progress with the setstage command.

 

This is not completely true; my PC is not yet a Bimbo, has painted nails and can't use gloves/gauntlets/whatever. So I'm assuming the gloves are anYPS issue. I'll make a request there.

 

Oh, and I was able to progress the quest you're mentioning, so it isn't the gloves/nails blocking the quest.

 

Edited October 21, 2024 by Wut1969