[SOLVED] Nifskope bug

[Dorabella]

Simple question which, since it does not concern Skyrim, I put here.
Does anyone know why Nifskope, no longer shows femalebody ?

 

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Any other part of the body is instead shown

 

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Edited November 6, 2022 by ?????? 1627
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[t.ara]

That version of nifscope "sucks" from the point if you work with OLDRIM data. This is my personal opinion. It also sucks in graphical and visual way, and also in the way of handling. And if now this version has additional bugs, I did cool staying with my lower version.

Your conversion is made maybe not correctly well. That body was SSE, you got rid of the BSTriShapes (meshes) and so you got a downgrade to LE i guess.

Another reason for nifscope to become not willing to work and show everything, might be the handling of too BIG or not suiting texture-files and/or a wrongly set graphical option.

 

 

[Dorabella]

2 hours ago, t.ara said:

That body was SSE, you got rid of the BSTriShapes (meshes)

If there is one thing I just haven't done, it is the conversion  ?

 

 

The strange thing is, this is the exact same file, only taken from Bodyslide, the other is after remodelling ?

 

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[Andy14]

4 hours ago, ?????? 1627 said:

Simple question which, since it does not concern Skyrim, I put here.
Does anyone know why Nifskope, no longer shows femalebody ?

 

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Any other part of the body is instead shown

 

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If BSLightingShaderProperty is missing or present but the textures are missing, the mesh will not be displayed.

[t.ara]

1 hour ago, Andy14 said:

 

If BSLightingShaderProperty is missing or present but the textures are missing, the mesh will not be displayed.

Absolutely:-))

But he did not show us...the triangles for opening further content are there-but what might be inside of that?-Who knows?:-))

[t.ara]

He doesn ´t like to share the secret content....maybe he want to port back something to LE, which is not allowed to do so...and who in hell is playing still with LE???

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[t.ara]

If you want a 3-boner to work inside of LE, I have the CBBE SMP and the suiting 3BBB SMP ready to play with all the support of RACEMENU and BS and it ´s clothing of caliente...I do not get permission for that officially but if you want I can share that....it has SMP physics and works perfectly well...you can also use the other older CBBE bodies-all together. This is not only looking better inside of LE, it also is working better, there. And the old good head is keeping, where it belongs: into SKYRIM!

Edited November 1, 2022 by t.ara

[Dorabella]

On 11/1/2022 at 3:31 PM, Andy14 said:

If BSLightingShaderProperty is missing or present but the textures are missing, the mesh will not be displayed.

Bodyslide's nif, however, presents no problem. In play then, it works correctly ,OS reads it without problems ,  It is also curious that ,  until a few days ago, the problem did not exist 

 

 

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23 hours ago, t.ara said:

and who in hell is playing still with LE???

Me ??

 

23 hours ago, t.ara said:

I do not get permission for that officially but if you want I can share that

I can experiment

[t.ara]

17 minutes ago, ?????? 1627 said:

Bodyslide's nif, however, presents no problem. In play then, it works correctly ,OS reads it without problems ,  It is also curious that ,  until a few days ago, the problem did not exist 

 

 

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Me ??

 

I can experiment

If you suddenly like, drop file here, I can look at it in OLDSCOPE...

I also play LE-because it is working wonderful. Means during the years I know it. SE could be really also interesting, but it takes lot of more work for same stuff. And this BS-bodies....I´m at the moment thinking, that OLDRIM with CBBE or UUNP was IDEAL. Look at this crappy collisions-panels-that ´s all for some smp-collision-stuff which I find is in LE with HDT-PE working directly on the mesh-surfaces. And the SMP-skirts can ´t be made by using this ground collisions-it´s absolutly a wrong way to go. All the skirt collision has to be the bodie´s legs and lower part of the body-in that case you get a skirt which is following the legs and which is looking well while sitting.

The white panels are disturbing, the stuff has always become checked, so that it follows to the slider-functions and it has been the most bad idea for some penis-games, ever.

Only my personal thinking. SMP is a donation-$$$-physic-service, half pay-walled. It ´s a skyrim-virus.

 

Is that BHUNP?

[Guest]

On 11/1/2022 at 4:59 PM, t.ara said:

and who in hell is playing still with LE???

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ahem... ?

[SmedleyDButler]

On 11/1/2022 at 11:59 AM, t.ara said:

who in hell is playing still with LE???

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Yo.

[Dorabella]

On 11/2/2022 at 5:47 PM, t.ara said:

If you suddenly like, drop file here, I can look at it in OLDSCOPE...

 

femalebody_1.nif  

 

Bodyslide  BHUNP 3BBB Advanced SMP.nif

 

With Nifskope, after comparing it with others, I found no difference.  The only thing go did was polish the skin but, even after restoring it to its original condition, Nifskope , it still hides the nif , while Bodyslide's nif, does not present the problem. 

 

On 11/2/2022 at 5:47 PM, t.ara said:

Is that BHUNP?

Yes . Whichever other BHUNP I open, you can see very well . 

[t.ara]

I have treated the file to become a NORMAL standard for the visible body-skin. It ´s settings are UNNECESSARY wrong. You can set up the ENB to reach such glossy skin effects and not use the nif-file itself. The setting of the skin has not been correctly made, depending on the creator of the body, maybe-idk.

Now it is a normal file...official it´s now a convert from SE to LE-body, which need an UUNP-skin. You can of course also use all the LE skins in SE, which is often looking better as the normal-map technology is a BIG question to become again used in SE. It is lacking in some aspects very much. Children btw. do NOT have this complexer skin-texturing, which is looking more NATURAL to me. The polarisation of the directions are leading specially for deforming skins, depending on animations and different body-shapes lot of wrong shadowing.

If now you can not see the mesh, you simply use a NOT COMPATIBLE SKIN for NIFSCOPE. A higher K-texture is not a guarantee for a sharp and detailed skin texture. Same is for all the other textures, which shall promise a better skyrim. 4K is mostly NOT necessary as no screen can show that. The textures are mostly again scaled down ontop of the body and your pixel-distances of the screen is not able to visualize such stuff, as long you have no 8K monitor or higher. If you simply once install a 2K texture or maybe 4K, then you will see that it is working.

 

And if you want my version of NIFSCOPE, here you are:

I also share my rare NIF-utility-suite, which has different tools onboard, which is one of the best tools for working with gamebryo-files:

For the nif-util-suite you unzip the DESKTOP-files: NIFFILE-COLLISIONFILE and Templates simply to the DESKTOP and so you can add your working files easily there-the templates contain basics-I always use the metal-barrel, you simply add to the collision-folder the colision files simply. CHUNK MERGE is creating in a very quick way STATICAL collisions from the MESH content, inside of the collision folder. It can not add the correct material-means you need to do that for each file inside of NIFSCOPE. Furthermore do you need to learn the collision-creation of MOVABLE/animated objects, which are part of a GAMEBRYO-FILE which can be also handled VERY EASY by using CHUNK-MERGE. In that case you have to create dedicated single collision-parts and add these to the target file then. Depending on it´s NODE/boning, this needs some more skills by handling nifsope at all. I´ll in future offer a professional GUIDE for all that.

 

 

femalebody_1 (2).nif NifSkope_2_0_2016-11-07.7z NifUtilsSuite_2.7z

nifutilsuiteDESKTOP-FILE-COLLISION-TEMPLATE-folders.7z

Edited November 6, 2022 by t.ara

[Dorabella]

2 hours ago, t.ara said:

You can set up the ENB

I do not use ENB

 

Thank's

 

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Even after replacing Nifskope with the version you passed on to me, I opened the femalebody you modified, the problem remains. 

 

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This makes me think that the problem has another origin. The oddity is that , it only and exclusively occurs with this femalebody, any other works fine whether UUNP or CBBE of any kind or genre .
In addition, the mystery remains: Bodyslide's nif , works without any problem

 

Bodyslide

 

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Is it possible that Bodyslide is not generating it correctly? The version in use is 5.6.0.491, which I believe is the latest available for LE

Edited November 6, 2022 by ?????? 1627

[t.ara]

On 11/6/2022 at 12:56 PM, ?????? 1627 said:

I do not use ENB

 

Thank's

 

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Even after replacing Nifskope with the version you passed on to me, I opened the femalebody you modified, the problem remains. 

 

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This makes me think that the problem has another origin. The oddity is that , it only and exclusively occurs with this femalebody, any other works fine whether UUNP or CBBE of any kind or genre .
In addition, the mystery remains: Bodyslide's nif , works without any problem

 

Bodyslide

 

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Is it possible that Bodyslide is not generating it correctly? The version in use is 5.6.0.491, which I believe is the latest available for LE

No your file directly WORKED inside of my set up.

 

I´d go this way for a check:

1-check it with a LIGHTWEIGTHED skin for females-doesn´t matter which one you choose for a first test

2-check if NIFSCOPE is depending on a scary graphic-setting-maybe under your global GPU-set-up-some use automatically GPU-software-tools like Nvidia experience...or how that has been called...I only use like in the past the NVIDIA settings-options and do everything by myself until it is how I want it.

3-maybe your O.S. is different and causes problems with nifscope?...i still use win 7 ultimate/64bits

-bodyslide may not be the problem-I use different versions  for 4 different skyrim-installations.....the newest and older ones...older ones have a better access to the size of tool, the more moderner ones come with the conversion-bodies...and with uniboob. Uniboob is also interesting for oldrim, btw.

 

4. I do no have further ideas...

 

 

Edited November 7, 2022 by t.ara

[Dorabella]

SOLVED 

In the meantime, I went on the hunt and found. As I suspected in advance , the source of the problem lay elsewhere. The nif generated in Bodyslide, was missing the project files (OSP). In fact, it had also become invisible in Bodyslide.
Once I recovered the projects from the old SSD and pasted them into Bodyslide, the problem disappeared.
Thank you all for your time 

 

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[27X]

On 11/2/2022 at 10:47 AM, t.ara said:

If you suddenly like, drop file here, I can look at it in OLDSCOPE...

I also play LE-because it is working wonderful. Means during the years I know it. SE could be really also interesting, but it takes lot of more work for same stuff. And this BS-bodies....I´m at the moment thinking, that OLDRIM with CBBE or UUNP was IDEAL. Look at this crappy collisions-panels-that ´s all for some smp-collision-stuff which I find is in LE with HDT-PE working directly on the mesh-surfaces. And the SMP-skirts can ´t be made by using this ground collisions-it´s absolutly a wrong way to go. All the skirt collision has to be the bodie´s legs and lower part of the body-in that case you get a skirt which is following the legs and which is looking well while sitting.

The white panels are disturbing, the stuff has always become checked, so that it follows to the slider-functions and it has been the most bad idea for some penis-games, ever.

Only my personal thinking. SMP is a donation-$$$-physic-service, half pay-walled. It ´s a skyrim-virus.

 

Is that BHUNP?

 

SMP works, PE doesn't.

 

It's literally that simple. There is also zero reason to use proxy objects with any version of SMP.