SoulGem Oven 4: Integration Fork

[Murphiee]

8 minutes ago, Halcyon2003 said:

How do the mcm slider options work anyway? I noticed that default is always 0, but in the configs they are not. Are there things that I should change in the configs versus the mcm or the other way around? I'm using ver 1.8 btw. I hope you still try to support older versions. 

I have build morphs checked in Bodyslide, but I guess I have to run the batch build option rather than just the nif slider right? Do I even need to change the nif? Also, when using Bodyslide, do I need to change the pregnancy slider for the body I use (your preset in this case) for it to appear or do in game morphs handle that?

if everything is set to 0 then there is something wrong with your installation, double check that SGO4if is enabled after sgo4 base.

I do not support older versions. You are on your own.

Yes, you need batch build morphs, nothing else needs changing.

No, you do not need to change slider in bodyslide, as long as you build morphs it should work fine in game.

[Halcyon2003]

Nothing was set to zero, but just the default values (as in click the default option in the slider) is set to zero. So to reiterate my question though, what do the sliders even do? What are they for? Is it necessary to add multiple sliders in the mcm?

[Murphiee]

8 minutes ago, Halcyon2003 said:

Nothing was set to zero, but just the default values (as in click the default option in the slider) is set to zero. So to reiterate my question though, what do the sliders even do? What are they for? Is it necessary to add multiple sliders in the mcm?

If all default values are 0, there is something wrong with the install.

[Halcyon2003]

Even if the install was messed up (although not sure how it could be since there isn't a fomod anyway), what are the default settings then? I saw pregnancy slider was set for 1.00 at startup, weight was set to -0.05 and milk was set to .03 I think.

[Murphiee]

12 hours ago, Halcyon2003 said:

Even if the install was messed up (although not sure how it could be since there isn't a fomod anyway), what are the default settings then? I saw pregnancy slider was set for 1.00 at startup, weight was set to -0.05 and milk was set to .03 I think.

Read the FAQ and the Documentation. You yourself said you are using an old version, can't help you more.

[LatencyRemix]

I am a bit lost in SE modding, was wondering if i could ask some questions .  

In the LE SGO you can bring up dial wheel an insert gem manualy, when i try this for SE only the scanner seems to run the adds a wiedget top right but the menu doesnt open.  Have a missed some things imporant for SE modding? SE 1.6.117.0 i just donwloaded all mods fresh

[Murphiee]

4 hours ago, LatencyRemix said:

I am a bit lost in SE modding, was wondering if i could ask some questions .  

In the LE SGO you can bring up dial wheel an insert gem manualy, when i try this for SE only the scanner seems to run the adds a wiedget top right but the menu doesnt open.  Have a missed some things imporant for SE modding? SE 1.6.117.0 i just donwloaded all mods fresh

 

Are you using both SGO4 and SGO4IF? (SGO4IF needs to be loaded after SGO¤)

Have you enabled the mod in th mcm?

[LatencyRemix]

2 hours ago, Murphiee said:

Are you using both SGO4 and SGO4IF? (SGO4IF needs to be loaded after SGO¤)

Have you enabled the mod in th mcm?

Yeah i have both, and the mod mcm says its tracking my character, maybe im just used to old LE where its 100% to get gems. But still cant get the shout menu to open only use the tracking one.

 

*Edit*

Not sure if this matters, but i double checked requirements and i have console Utill SSE NG maybe that is why i cant use the normal menu, The other console utill isnt compatabile with my version, unles theres a old version for 1.6.117

Edited January 24, 2025 by LatencyRemix

[Murphiee]

2 hours ago, LatencyRemix said:

Yeah i have both, and the mod mcm says its tracking my character, maybe im just used to old LE where its 100% to get gems. But still cant get the shout menu to open only use the tracking one.

 

*Edit*

Not sure if this matters, but i double checked requirements and i have console Utill SSE NG maybe that is why i cant use the normal menu, The other console utill isnt compatabile with my version, unles theres a old version for 1.6.117

I'm also using those, and it works fine for me, so im unsure what the problem is.

Could you elaborate on the problem, Does the SGO4 Power not work at all?

[LatencyRemix]

1 hour ago, Murphiee said:

Does the SGO4 Power not work at all?

[SGO4] Main Menu doesnt seem to work.  When i shout Z default use key it makes a sound, name greys out for a few seconds but no menu pops open, the MCM and consolne output seem to work just fine i just cant acces the shout menu.

 

*edit*

does the SGO4 esp need to load above sgo beta's? i use vortex .

 

img wont upload for some reason 

*edit 2*

Ok, Swaping ESP load order's was the problem i think. atleast it works in qasmoke but must be baked in my game. so will try a new game and see

Edited January 24, 2025 by LatencyRemix

[CrackerJack315]

How does one reset to default settings for this mod? New game didn't do it!

[whatAmIdo1n]

Maybe im retarded but I cant insert any gems? 

[Murphiee]

14 hours ago, LatencyRemix said:

[SGO4] Main Menu doesnt seem to work.  When i shout Z default use key it makes a sound, name greys out for a few seconds but no menu pops open, the MCM and consolne output seem to work just fine i just cant acces the shout menu.

 

*edit*

does the SGO4 esp need to load above sgo beta's? i use vortex .

 

img wont upload for some reason 

*edit 2*

Ok, Swaping ESP load order's was the problem i think. atleast it works in qasmoke but must be baked in my game. so will try a new game and see

Oh, I guess vortex is dumb. Why would it load a esp that requires another, ABOVE the one it requires?

Yeah that would be the reason for your issue.

9 hours ago, CrackerJack315 said:

How does one reset to default settings for this mod? New game didn't do it!

Delete Custom.Json

5 hours ago, whatAmIdo1n said:

Maybe im retarded but I cant insert any gems? 

Not retarded, You just didn't read through the hundreds of lines of changelog. Understandable.

Currently only soulgem fragments can be inserted, and results in a black soul gem with drastically lowered growth rates.

Adding this to the documentations rar in next update.

[Bosporus]

I would like to ask what the actual function of GemLevel is. Does it only affect the type of gem produced?

[Murphiee]

54 minutes ago, Bosporus said:

I would like to ask what the actual function of GemLevel is. Does it only affect the type of gem produced?

Check the documentations.rar, specifically default option explanations.

Ask again if there is something you don't understand.

[whatAmIdo1n]

17 hours ago, Murphiee said:

Oh, I guess vortex is dumb. Why would it load a esp that requires another, ABOVE the one it requires?

Yeah that would be the reason for your issue.

Delete Custom.Json

Not retarded, You just didn't read through the hundreds of lines of changelog. Understandable.

Currently only soulgem fragments can be inserted, and results in a black soul gem with drastically lowered growth rates.

Adding this to the documentations rar in next update.

 

oh okay makes sense Im too used to old SGO thanks for the reply though! ❤️

[Guest]

If I do clean install of these mods (the one from git hub and yours 1.9 overwriting it) they don't work nativly with 3BA.
More over original mod has script RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.pex that is based on CBBE scripts, not 3BA so it brears 3BA body morf sliders in Racemenu. And I also have to manusally write slider nale Belly - Pregnant in MCM because by default there is CBBE slider name instead.

I guess you should put correct script for 3BA in your mod and also check MCM.

Thanks.

 

[Murphiee]

On 1/26/2025 at 7:35 AM, RustyOldSword said:

If I do clean install of these mods (the one from git hub and yours 1.9 overwriting it) they don't work nativly with 3BA.
More over original mod has script RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.pex that is based on CBBE scripts, not 3BA so it brears 3BA body morf sliders in Racemenu. And I also have to manusally write slider nale Belly - Pregnant in MCM because by default there is CBBE slider name instead.

I guess you should put correct script for 3BA in your mod and also check MCM.

Thanks.

 

3BA uses CBBE slider names where applicable. Something is broken on your end.

Not going to include another Racemenumorphs script, As then it will break racemenu for anyone not using 3BA.

[Guest]

8 hours ago, Murphiee said:

3BA uses CBBE slider names where applicable. Something is broken on your end.

Not going to include another Racemenumorphs script, As then it will break racemenu for anyone not using 3BA.

Sorry, but I believe there’s a mistake regarding the RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.pex file. I’ve recorded a screencast to prove that the CBBE and 3BA RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.pex files are completely different. You can view it here: https://disk.yandex.ru/i/9kkkJuZoD7Nuuw.
If your mod is meant to be used with the 3BA body, this file will break things because the “dse-soulgem-oven-vbeta8” mod is designed to be used with the CBBE body only.

As I mentioned before, the file is not included in your mod, but is found in the original version on GitHub. I did a clean installation on a vanilla game to test this, so I’m 100% sure it’s not an issue on my end. Since I’m experienced with Skyrim modding, I even managed to merge and recompile the file myself to fix the issue.

Thanks for your time. I’m just sharing this here to help others who might encounter the same problem.

[Murphiee]

24 minutes ago, RustyOldSword said:

Sorry, but I believe there’s a mistake regarding the RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.pex file. I’ve recorded a screencast to prove that the CBBE and 3BA RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.pex files are completely different. You can view it here: https://disk.yandex.ru/i/9kkkJuZoD7Nuuw.
If your mod is meant to be used with the 3BA body, this file will break things because the “dse-soulgem-oven-vbeta8” mod is designed to be used with the CBBE body only.

As I mentioned before, the file is not included in your mod, but is found in the original version on GitHub. I did a clean installation on a vanilla game to test this, so I’m 100% sure it’s not an issue on my end. Since I’m experienced with Skyrim modding, I even managed to merge and recompile the file myself to fix the issue.

Thanks for your time. I’m just sharing this here to help others who might encounter the same problem.

Aaah, i get what you mean.

 

Yes, the original mod includes the original CBBE Racemorphs files.

Yes, this does mean that you will not have the new 3BA Morphs in your racemenu.

This however should not break SGO4IF 3BA compatibility. Morphs in config should still apply properly, Just tested on my end with nothing replacing Beta8's RaceMenuMorphsCBBE script.

 

I agree that this isn't optimal, but i am not sure that adding my own 3BA morphs as a script is the best solution, Would need to check if other body mods share the same script or not.

For now il add it as a FAQ question/solution. Thnx for the report.

 

Edit: Looks like Bhunp includes its own of the morph scripts. Can probably include my own version, Probably in next update.

Edited January 27, 2025 by Murphiee

[woshishizhan]

On 1/25/2025 at 12:16 PM, whatAmIdo1n said:

也许我是智障，但我不能插入任何宝石？

me too

[himazinn]

Is it possible to incorporate custom race NPCs into this mod using the JSON files in the config?
or are there plans to implement such functionality in a future update?

 

Thanks for the great mod.

[psymon]

hello, plz help the is no option to birth a filled gem. I read a few places it should be in the mcm under gameplay, but its not there?, thank you, also how and why do you insert the gems?, and how do i get souls for purification, and what does purification and corruption work?, thank you

Edited January 29, 2025 by psymon

[SpaceRaven]

So I have a save with SGO 1.8 installed, and then when I tried to update to 1.9.1, I noticed that the esp had been renamed from "SGO 4 Integration fork.esp" to "SGO4IF.esp".
Is it safe to update with an existing save, specifically if I rename the esp back to the full name in 1.8?

I accidentally installed 1.9.1 to overwrite 1.8, not realizing that the esp name had changed, so both esps were active at the same time for a few saves until I realized the change. It didn't seem to break anything, but this mod shouldn't be loaded twice and I already deleted the few saves I made with these duplicate esps just in case

[Murphiee]

On 1/29/2025 at 9:21 AM, himazinn said:

Is it possible to incorporate custom race NPCs into this mod using the JSON files in the config?
or are there plans to implement such functionality in a future update?

 

Thanks for the great mod.

Yes, it is completely possible, Check what i did in:

configs\dse-soulgem-oven\raceids\2_VanillaHumanoidExtraRaceIds.json

And

configs\dse-soulgem-oven\outputs\2_VanillaHumanoidExtraOutputs.json

And just replicate it in 2 new Json files with your appropriate custom races.

15 hours ago, psymon said:

hello, plz help the is no option to birth a filled gem. I read a few places it should be in the mcm under gameplay, but its not there?, thank you, also how and why do you insert the gems?, and how do i get souls for purification, and what does purification and corruption work?, thank you

Birthing changed in the 1.9 update, There is no longer a toggle, and every "partner" has a custom output. check configs\dse-soulgem-oven\outputs for actual outputs, you can configure these to give whatever you want.

 

Corruption/Purification is a way to force increase/decrease SGO4IF Milk/Gem Levels. If you go into mcm you can change the cost to 0. It costs filled black soulgems by default.

8 hours ago, SpaceRaven said:

So I have a save with SGO 1.8 installed, and then when I tried to update to 1.9.1, I noticed that the esp had been renamed from "SGO 4 Integration fork.esp" to "SGO4IF.esp".
Is it safe to update with an existing save, specifically if I rename the esp back to the full name in 1.8?

I accidentally installed 1.9.1 to overwrite 1.8, not realizing that the esp name had changed, so both esps were active at the same time for a few saves until I realized the change. It didn't seem to break anything, but this mod shouldn't be loaded twice and I already deleted the few saves I made with these duplicate esps just in case

Changed name due to it specifically being a save breaking update. Either completely clean your save of any SGO4IF mentions, or start a new save.