SoulGem Oven 4: Integration Fork

[Nickolkiin]

2 hours ago, Murphiee said:

  

It doesn't affect sgo4. Sgo4 affects your performance in sexlab scenes while using SLSO Hakkey's Tweaks.

First of all, Looks like you are using an old version of the mod. Are you sure you are using the latest version from this page?

 

To answer your question, The morphs are whatever your body has support for, can be either BHUNP CBBE or 3BA or anything else for that matter.

In current versions of the mod there are 4 different slider configs, What they do are as follows:

Milk: What morph values to add when an actor is full of milk, Think of this as 100% scaling. This can be further increased by milk leveling, getting you to for example 180% scaling.

Gem: What morph value to use when an actor is fully pregnant, Nothing can cause this to go over 100% scaling.

Weight: What morph values to add when an actor is at 100% weight, Weight is slowly gained while pregnant, and lost while not pregnant (this is changed in next version), Can exceed 100% through gem leveling, adding maximum weight and lingering weight.

Semen: This is an outlier, Similar to previous morphs, but it tracks maximum CAPACITY, Not current value. Starting at 0 and increasing with Semen leveling, Semen Capacity Mult. at 100% increased semen capacity, you will have the scaling set in the semen config.

Planning to add this to next update. It will require a bit of work for the end user tough.

how though? does the PC have to be a female character? I use a male character how does it effect my character's performance?

[Murphiee]

14 hours ago, Nickolkiin said:

how though? does the PC have to be a female character? I use a male character how does it effect my character's performance?

Enjoyment bonuses cause partner to reach orgasm faster. Each modifier is a multiplier based on 100% scaling (max base weight, max base milk and so on)

Sensitivity bonus cause the actor in question to reach orgasm faster.

SchlongBonus causes female partners to reach orgasm faster.

[SantanaX]

Any chance of having a set of profiles to choose from, or the option to save new? I'm pretty satisfied with my current slider setup for everything, but would like to experiment a bit but don't want to lose the current setup. Obviously could just backup the json file but still, would be a nice feature
 

[Murphiee]

40 minutes ago, SantanaX said:

Any chance of having a set of profiles to choose from, or the option to save new? I'm pretty satisfied with my current slider setup for everything, but would like to experiment a bit but don't want to lose the current setup. Obviously could just backup the json file but still, would be a nice feature
 

Not worth the effort, time is better spent on other things. Would implement if it was simple, but it would basically mean coding in a new system for reading and writing config files. All configs are already saved externally, so you can just back up those.

[arkdas]

hi, I think a lot of people wrote about the morphology bug one way or another for unknown reasons (I hope I wasn't the only one). After a long study of comments and just controversial places in this fashion........... I discovered an addiction. Mods 1 - "go to bed", 2 - "Lie down comfortably", 3 - "Sleep in your underwear". It's them (I have no idea how it's interconnected, how it works) They influenced the morphology. Initially, the problem was only in 1 mod, but then (in the sense after disabling) the problem remained, disabling 2 and 3, I solved the problem (as well as in the middle of the game), approximately at its beginning (that is, already in Riverwood) I'm not talking at all. The author, I repeat, has no idea how all this relates to your mod, not the first mod conflicts, the rest-working in conjunction with 1, retain this conflict. I have no idea what will happen if I change the download order, that is, not the placement of the mod, but the installation order, maybe it will work, but I'm not sure about it. Anyway, I decided to share my observations.

Edited October 24, 2024 by arkdas

[Killerlol202]

Is there any way to set this to player only? It's just for RP reasons.

[Murphiee]

On 10/23/2024 at 9:07 PM, arkdas said:

hi, I think a lot of people wrote about the morphology bug one way or another for unknown reasons (I hope I wasn't the only one). After a long study of comments and just controversial places in this fashion........... I discovered an addiction. Mods 1 - "go to bed", 2 - "Lie down comfortably", 3 - "Sleep in your underwear". It's them (I have no idea how it's interconnected, how it works) They influenced the morphology. Initially, the problem was only in 1 mod, but then (in the sense after disabling) the problem remained, disabling 2 and 3, I solved the problem (as well as in the middle of the game), approximately at its beginning (that is, already in Riverwood) I'm not talking at all. The author, I repeat, has no idea how all this relates to your mod, not the first mod conflicts, the rest-working in conjunction with 1, retain this conflict. I have no idea what will happen if I change the download order, that is, not the placement of the mod, but the installation order, maybe it will work, but I'm not sure about it. Anyway, I decided to share my observations.

Go to bed incompatibility is known, Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, no idea why.

On 10/24/2024 at 9:55 AM, Killerlol202 said:

Is there any way to set this to player only? It's just for RP reasons.

Check the auto enable config options in default.json. Do mind that sexlab pregnancies will not work unless you auto enable semen for "male" actors. This has been changed in next update. but for now this is the way you have to go about it.

[Mrmanandu]

On 10/23/2024 at 7:53 AM, Murphiee said:

First of all, Looks like you are using an old version of the mod. Are you sure you are using the latest version from this page?

 

To answer your question, The morphs are whatever your body has support for, can be either BHUNP CBBE or 3BA or anything else for that matter.

In current versions of the mod there are 4 different slider configs, What they do are as follows:

Milk:  ...[Continued...]

 

Okay let me order this reply;
 

1. I wasn't sure if I was using an old version. So I took the time to reinstall. I'm confident I didn't have the latest version since I had to download something else to make it work, but regardless my default.json looks exactly the same. The whole mod does. There is no 'weight' section for scaling. I am now using SGO4 IF 1.8 that was posted on July 22nd (with the patches related to it). I can't see any downloads newer than that. Unless there's one buried in the forum here and not updated onto the main page.
2. The reason I ask about what mods morphs it's using is because the slider names between those pages are not namely distinctly. Both "thighs" and "slimthighs" are under both BHUNP and CBBE. If they have the same name, are they changing the same values? So I can use either to help visualise the configuration I want?
3. So if I'm understanding correctly, to configure: I should model my character to appear like I want them to at 100%, then subtract the default value from my ideal value, and put that into the config? Like where the default value is set at 0.75, that's equivalent to going and raising the slider yourself from 1 to 1.75. Except that you'd only reach 1.75 when carrying a fully charged soulgem.

[Murphiee]

3 hours ago, Mrmanandu said:

Okay let me order this reply;
 

1. I wasn't sure if I was using an old version. So I took the time to reinstall. I'm confident I didn't have the latest version since I had to download something else to make it work, but regardless my default.json looks exactly the same. The whole mod does. There is no 'weight' section for scaling. I am now using SGO4 IF 1.8 that was posted on July 22nd (with the patches related to it). I can't see any downloads newer than that. Unless there's one buried in the forum here and not updated onto the main page.
2. The reason I ask about what mods morphs it's using is because the slider names between those pages are not namely distinctly. Both "thighs" and "slimthighs" are under both BHUNP and CBBE. If they have the same name, are they changing the same values? So I can use either to help visualise the configuration I want?
3. So if I'm understanding correctly, to configure: I should model my character to appear like I want them to at 100%, then subtract the default value from my ideal value, and put that into the config? Like where the default value is set at 0.75, that's equivalent to going and raising the slider yourself from 1 to 1.75. Except that you'd only reach 1.75 when carrying a fully charged soulgem.

1: Sounds like you are looking in the config file from the original Soulgem oven 3. This is a addon to that mod. use this mod's config.

 

2: Yeh, they will change the same value, but said value might have a different appearance on cbbe/bhunp. Check the RaceMenuMorphs(bodyname) source script for names of actual morphs, these are what you want to input.

 

3: Kinda, for example: Having DoubleMelon set to 1.0 while full of milk, will have the same visual appearance as using the ingame race slider and setting DoubleMelon to 1.0.

Everything is additive.

[Mrmanandu]

9 hours ago, Murphiee said:

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I swear something still isn't right with my config files.

So I realised that it's only the "PlugnPlay" download that contains the correct default.json file. All the other downloads have fewer settings listed. So I made sure that the PnPlay json is the only default.json available. But when I head into the game, change some settings to make a custom.json file, it also lacks many of the options from the default.json file.

1. I understand that the custom.json doesn't need to mention a field if it's not going to differ the value from the default field. But why are there some fields in the custom but not in the default? See the screenshot provided, red lines are not present in the default, and blue lines not present in the custom.json.
   • Does that mean there are any options not displayed in either json?
   • The custom.json has a field named "ActorWeightDays", the default.json has a similarly named option "ActorWeightDaysDrain". This immediately seems to me like something is outdated and generating old option terms. How is this interacting in the game? Which line is the game going to use?
2. I don't think weight is working. I can't see any options in-game related to weight. No way to add sliders or customize like I can with pregnancy or milk. And there's no options in the debug menu to test weight either. One thing you mentioned is to check your file version and I am not on SE 1.5.97. Seems weird that the mod would work, but just like an older version of itself just because of a version issue.
3. Another clue that something is amiss is that the json refers to mechanics that I've not seen before. Like inflation, breast veins, or modification purchases. I've never seen mention of these in game, despite playing with the mod quite a bit (albeit an older version, but I still can't find any reference now)

It's definitely working in some regard. I was able to update the widget's position in-game and it updated to the custom.json. If the custom.json doesn't specify a value the game will use the value from the default.json. I can update the default.json to a new value and see it reflected in game. But any values relating to weight don't seem to do anything. What else can I troubleshoot?

Edited October 27, 2024 by Mrmanandu

[Murphiee]

7 hours ago, Mrmanandu said:

I swear something still isn't right with my config files.

Actorweightdays is how many days it takes to gain full weight, Actorweightdaysdrain is how many days it takes to drain from full weight.

 

Still sounds like you somehow managed to get a hold of an old version, Send me your modlist.

 

[Mrmanandu]

Alright, I excised anything to do with Soulgem Oven and reinstalled from scratch again.

I think a point of confusion I had is that there's a beta of SGO as one of it's requirements. And I was either overwriting files with that beta, or putting that beta lower on the load order so it'd overwrite (my naming convention did not help).

After reinstalling, cleaning up the files, and making sure that the required beta loads before the new stuff, I believe it's working. There's a bunch more options in the MCM, I'll see if it all works.

EDIT: It all appears to be working at the moment. I'll need to level a bit to see if weight is working. But I can't seem to access the main menu. The one to provide options to birth gems, insert, check milk levels etc. The power is in my magic menu. But when I equip it and 'use' it nothing happens. Refiring the ability shortly after gives you that "ptuu" sound which I think means I closed it and it's on a short cooldown. But nothing had shown up.

EDIT2: That character seemed to be incapable of birthing gems at all. I decided to try to get things working on a new character. After Sexlab had reinitialized, it seemed to be working at first. The MCM menu displayed correctly and all. But now I didn't even have the SGO powers to try. And using the debug MCM menu to max out my milk, gems, and weight, did nothing. Now the only thing I think it could be is because I'm on Skyrim Version: 1.6.1170 instead of the recommended version.

Edited October 27, 2024 by Mrmanandu

[Murphiee]

3 hours ago, Mrmanandu said:

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Possible, can't really help you any more right now.

Im in the middle of testing the next update, which might fix your problems, or might make things worse, kind of useless to test right now tough.

I recommend taking a break from this mod until i can get the next update out.

[dzhamal]

the tattoo disappears almost instantly. What could be the problem?

[Murphiee]

19 hours ago, dzhamal said:

the tattoo disappears almost instantly. What could be the problem?

Sounds like you have another mod fighting over limited overlay slots. increase the number of available overlays in your racemenu config, google it.

[arkdas]

Hi, if it's not a secret, when will the new version be released?

 

[Murphiee]

18 hours ago, arkdas said:

Hi, if it's not a secret, when will the new version be released?

 

When i manage to get features working, if you want to help test next update, go to: https://discord.gg/5GZsvRqJ

 

[dzhamal]

On 10/28/2024 at 3:07 PM, Murphiee said:

Sounds like you have another mod fighting over limited overlay slots. increase the number of available overlays in your racemenu config, google it.

It didn't help. I probably said it wrong. Not immediately if you stand and do nothing. If I stand, it lasts for a few seconds and disappears. But if I try to change the color, it disappears immediately.

[sekuzeku]

does your plug n play config disable vagina physics?

nothing is colliding after installing.

[yddegunz]

使用Soulgem Oven，如何让futa与futa怀孕（或者女性与futa）?

How to get futa pregnant with futa (or women with futa) with Soulgem Oven?

 

我使用skyfem使整个skyrim都是女性，配合SOS整个skyrim都是futa。

I use skyfem to make the whole skyrim female, with SOS the whole skyrim is futa.

[Murphiee]

On 11/1/2024 at 12:16 AM, sekuzeku said:

does your plug n play config disable vagina physics?

nothing is colliding after installing.

no intentionally, you should be able to just delete the cbpc physics included.

On 10/31/2024 at 6:37 PM, dzhamal said:

It didn't help. I probably said it wrong. Not immediately if you stand and do nothing. If I stand, it lasts for a few seconds and disappears. But if I try to change the color, it disappears immediately.

Read through FAQ, have you tried with minimal load order?

On 11/1/2024 at 12:21 AM, yddegunz said:

How to get futa pregnant with futa (or women with futa) with Soulgem Oven?

 

I use skyfem to make the whole skyrim female, with SOS the whole skyrim is futa.

Default.Json Config files:

    "AutoEnableWeight": true,
    "AutoEnableMilk": true,
    "AutoEnableSemen": true,
    "AutoEnableFutaGems": true,

Will not work on already encountered npcs, for those you need to toggle it through SGO4 Power Menu

[dzhamal]

2 hours ago, Murphiee said:

no intentionally, you should be able to just delete the cbpc physics included.

Read through FAQ, have you tried with minimal load order?

Default.Json Config files:

    "AutoEnableWeight": true,
    "AutoEnableMilk": true,
    "AutoEnableSemen": true,
    "AutoEnableFutaGems": true,

Will not work on already encountered npcs, for those you need to toggle it through SGO4 Power Menu

Found it. Its PNS patch. It is not compatible with 1.8

[sekuzeku]

i don't really know much about CBPC but it looks like the plug n play doesn't have anything to control vagina physics. 

it has files for SOS, legs, butt, belly, and 3BA but not vagina.

and the files that control everything overwrite defaults so no vagina physics can get through.

[Mrmanandu]

Small update, I guess. I realised I wasn't properly starting SGO on my new character test. After doing that I can get pregnant and have milk. I'm presuming the slider adjustments at full are small because it's a new character. Weight wasn't showing but that might be because I haven't had a chance to build it up yet. The debug option for 'set weight to max' has a max on itself that I think you build up over time. If that's not the case and that button is supposed to show a visual difference even at level 1 then that's not working but I can't test that.

The Main menu still isn't working though. It can't be something wrong with widgets or the menu mod because it works fine in the SGO beta. It's trying to work, since targetting a chicken or bear/etc tells me that it's not a valid target. Has anyone else struggled to get the SGO Main menu power to work?

[assasinAurora]

I have looked trough the forum here to try and find an answer but haven't found anything so i will present my question directly.

How is semen leveled ? I assume by extracting/milking it but i have done so numerous times and it is only level 2 (current stats are 'semens wanked 20, ejaculation count 28)