Children of Lilith - Succubus of Skyrim

[phalancks]

On 1/20/2025 at 8:41 AM, zh1023700559 said:

Hey dear poster, i found Lilith may have some conflicts with SLAVETATS. Everytime I transformed between both forms, i got a black tattoo on my ass, named anal_body_sperm_heavy, whose file can be found in"mods\SlaveTatsSE-1.3.0\Textures\Actors\Character\slavetats\sperm_heavy“, even though I had no sex.

It takes up the 6th tattoo slot. Any other tattoos I set in 6th slot by SHOWRACEMENU will be replaced into that sperm texture. And I cant even change the color into white to make it at least reasonable.

That is, no matter what pattern and color i set in 6th tattoo slot, then save it as my mortal/demon form， it turn back into black sperm every time I transform.

 

Also, by somehow, my mortal form's head model disappeared, with only eyeballs and teeth. Demon form is normal. And older saves I load became headless too.

 

Lastly, my smp hair also fails. I use the newest verson of FSMP, and turn the settings about wigs in configs.xml false.

The slavetats thing to me means that either it was saved into your forms (which is possible if you resave a form while another mod has applied a body overlay) or slavetats has that tattoo applied to your character. The transformations reapply whatever slavetats overlays are applied in both forms. Or rather, it tells slavetats to reapply any overlays it knows about.

 

The model head disappearing is strange. I would recommend going through the uninstall instructions for which files to delete and then recreate/save your forms. My guess is that you have bExternalHeads enabled and for some other reason the head mesh is missing. Completely removing the files CoL generated and then recreating the forms should resolve it, but if it's slavetats that is applying the tattoo it will come back on transform. So check the slavetats MCM as well to see if anything is applied.

 

@Nuka Cherry as well:

Some hairs simply do not work correctly with the transformation presets. One hair from a given mod may work fine, while another from the same mod breaks. Not much I can do about it unfortunately. I have plans to change the way the form saving works, which might fix it but I haven't gotten around to implementing it yet to know for sure.

 

As for a solution, you can try finding and deleting data/meshes/actors/character/facegendata/facegeom/skyrim.esm/00000007.nif. It seems like some smp information gets improperly baked into this file.  This file may get recreated unless you set bExternalHeads=0, which may cause facial deformations on transform. So pick your poison I guess. If your forms aren't too different, and you aren't changing races, leaving bExternalHeads=0 will probably be fine.

If all else fails, using a wig can be a good workaround.

Edited January 21, 2025 by phalancks

[Nuka Cherry]

28 minutes ago, phalancks said:

you aren't changing races, leaving bExternalHeads=0 will probably be fine.

 

Ahhh that is very useful. I basically add horns, tail, reddish colour and different eyes, same race. Thanks.

[zh1023700559]

20 hours ago, Nuka Cherry said:

 

Ahhh that is very useful. I basically add horns, tail, reddish colour and different eyes, same race. Thanks.

Could you please tell me in which file I can edit the bExternalHeads line?

[Nuka Cherry]

3 hours ago, zh1023700559 said:

Could you please tell me in which file I can edit the bExternalHeads line?

 

 

Inside the Racemenu folder is a SKSE folder, the file you want is called skee.ini or something.

Edited January 22, 2025 by Nuka Cherry

[Midnightbug]

Hi phalancks, 

 

Thank you for your hard work to make the best succubus mod on earth! I am wondering would it be possible to request two things for this amazing mod please?

 

1. and optional slider or a tick box to enable Energy consumption mode automatically ON when transforming to succubus and to OFF when in human form

 

2. Compatibility for persistent SL cum overlays extended (SCOE) for overlays to stay on the body even when transforming / game load (UBE only supports SCOE)

[phalancks]

7 hours ago, Midnightbug said:

Hi phalancks, 

 

Thank you for your hard work to make the best succubus mod on earth! I am wondering would it be possible to request two things for this amazing mod please?

 

1. and optional slider or a tick box to enable Energy consumption mode automatically ON when transforming to succubus and to OFF when in human form

 

2. Compatibility for persistent SL cum overlays extended (SCOE) for overlays to stay on the body even when transforming / game load (UBE only supports SCOE)

 

1. If I understand you correctly, this already exists. Set the transformation cost via the slider and disable "human form costs energy". This will make your succubus form cost energy and your human form not.

 

2. SCOE was a ponzi mod, and since he has left the scene I will not be looking at integrating with it. I believe that Scrab plans on integrating it with PPlus, so when that happens I will see about integrating with it.

[Midnightbug]

1 hour ago, phalancks said:

 

1. If I understand you correctly, this already exists. Set the transformation cost via the slider and disable "human form costs energy". This will make your succubus form cost energy and your human form not.

 

2. SCOE was a ponzi mod, and since he has left the scene I will not be looking at integrating with it. I believe that Scrab plans on integrating it with PPlus, so when that happens I will see about integrating with it.

 

Sorry I wasn`t clear, I meant energy casting -so casting spells with energy. I would like that to happen automatically when I switch to succubus form, so all my spells would use energy and when in human form they would use mana.

 

2. I am sad to hear that, the problem is that I am using UBE and SCOE is the only mod they made patches for. It is just pointless when a simple load game would wipe all of the overlays...

[firestormx64]

Would there be a way to choose a different model upon transformation? I feel like SkyDraenei body for the digitigrade hooves would be a neat idea for when transformed.

[phalancks]

4 hours ago, firestormx64 said:

Would there be a way to choose a different model upon transformation? I feel like SkyDraenei body for the digitigrade hooves would be a neat idea for when transformed.

You can already switch races with the transform and it should support any custom race that a racemenu preset supports. Beyond that I'm not going to add anything for custom body parts.

[firestormx64]

Oh cool so if anything I could create a copy of my race and set the models to use the Draenei ones

[PupilOfLogic]

Recently installed the mod. Following the install instructions and I don't see the Children of Lilith option in MCM. Is there any known fix?

 

[phalancks]

47 minutes ago, PupilOfLogic said:

Recently installed the mod. Following the install instructions and I don't see the Children of Lilith option in MCM. Is there any known fix?

 

Make sure you have NL_MCM installed

Run setstage SKI_ConfigManagerInstance 1

If you're on 1.5.97 install BEES

[atehu]

With SLSO installed, despite having the option always orgams enabled the drain simply never happened no matter what options I tried. After removing SLSO it works properly. I don't want to bother author with this, but maybe somebody had similar issue? And if so what settings in slso caused issues.


EDIT: I didn't have option "enable separate orgasm" enabled in sexlab mcm. After enabling it works. I leave this comment for future reference

Edited February 5, 2025 by atehu

[0XWOLKX0]

After death face data fucks up hard. Solutions?
3BA, No smp hair, some high res head mod. Never happens with this mod dissabled.

 

UPD: Fixed by setting bExternalHeads=1 in RaceMenu/SKSE/Plugins/skee64.ini

Edited February 10, 2025 by 0XWOLKX0
solved problem

[papavitch1]

Does anyone know how to fix simple Defeat  not triggering the victim transformation 

[phalancks]

14 hours ago, papavitch1 said:

Does anyone know how to fix simple Defeat  not triggering the victim transformation 

Are you using base sexlab or pplus or something else? Because that changes how the detection works. I'm going to assume it's base sexlab.

 

For base sexlab I check the thread's VictimRef property. So if it isn't working then it's because simple defeat is not correctly flagging the player as a victim. Below is the specific code I use to detect victimhood

 

bool Function IsVictim(Quest SexLab, Actor actorRef) Global
    sslThreadController thread = GetControllerByActor(SexLab, actorRef)
    return thread != None && thread.VictimRef != None && thread.VictimRef == actorRef
EndFunction

 

Edited February 12, 2025 by phalancks

[Emperorschildren]

This is probably a really dumb question but can I be a vampire lord and a succubus or nah?

[phalancks]

11 hours ago, Emperorschildren said:

This is probably a really dumb question but can I be a vampire lord and a succubus or nah?

Yes you can.

[GuruSR]

Some questions and a request/suggestion (or two):

 

Q.  How on earth do I use the Mark of the Succubus?  It says "give it to someone", so I need a mod to do this, or is there a dialogue for it after X happens?

 

Q.  The Upper and Lower limits of Arousal, I ran into chaos with it when energy runs out, if Lower isn't 0, transformed in/out of Succubus form a bunch of times.  Is there a way to get the Succubus form to stay off when below Lower and on when above Upper?  Re-checking the Arousal at the end of a scene.

 

Q.  What tattoos are used in the pictures for the Succubus form, also what wings/horns were used?  (Maybe make mention of them in the documentation.)

 

R.  Any chance of an aura that we can use in Succubus form to increase the arousal of others around, so other mods like SLEN and Spectators can cause orgies while the Succubus is around, or even causing them to have sex with the Succubus without asking (because they have to have it).

 

R.  Succubus/Succubi are typically aimed at having sex a lot, seeing that when the scene ends the form says "It is satisfied", satiated, how, it is a Succubus/Succubi, they do this a lot, so some human got their thrill off completely?  Can't see that!

 

R.  Succubus option to not be hostile to most enemies with a calming aura.

 

R.  Widget to show drain mode/state.

 

R.  Transform to Succubus when "alert" (combat start).

 

GuruSR.

[phalancks]

3 hours ago, GuruSR said:

Q.  How on earth do I use the Mark of the Succubus?  It says "give it to someone", so I need a mod to do this, or is there a dialogue for it after X happens?

You just have to get it into their inventory. How you do that is up to you. Some options include followers, reverse pickpocketing, and console commands. You could also use spid to distribute the spells.

 

3 hours ago, GuruSR said:

Q.  The Upper and Lower limits of Arousal, I ran into chaos with it when energy runs out, if Lower isn't 0, transformed in/out of Succubus form a bunch of times.  Is there a way to get the Succubus form to stay off when below Lower and on when above Upper?  Re-checking the Arousal at the end of a scene.

Can you provide more details about what this situation is? Arousal and other forced transformations shouldn't cost energy and shouldn't cause untransforming due to no energy. It's possible this is a bug exposed by script lag in your game but I need more information first.

3 hours ago, GuruSR said:

Q.  What tattoos are used in the pictures for the Succubus form, also what wings/horns were used?  (Maybe make mention of them in the documentation.)

Tattoos are LewdMarks. Wings are Animated Wings Ultimate for the gifs and DX Succubus (Mazken) Armor for the jpegs.  Horns are ED Horns for the gifs and DX Succubus Armor for the jpegs.

3 hours ago, GuruSR said:

R.  Any chance of an aura that we can use in Succubus form to increase the arousal of others around, so other mods like SLEN and Spectators can cause orgies while the Succubus is around, or even causing them to have sex with the Succubus without asking (because they have to have it).

I'll see what I can do. Probably as part of one of the perk trees.

3 hours ago, GuruSR said:

R.  Succubus/Succubi are typically aimed at having sex a lot, seeing that when the scene ends the form says "It is satisfied", satiated, how, it is a Succubus/Succubi, they do this a lot, so some human got their thrill off completely?  Can't see that!

What? I don't have any messages about being satisfied or satiated. Maybe a vampire mod if you have vampire feeding enabled?

3 hours ago, GuruSR said:

R.  Succubus option to not be hostile to most enemies with a calming aura.

Planned for Sanguine tree

3 hours ago, GuruSR said:

R.  Widget to show drain mode/state.

This is shown by the color of the energy bar

3 hours ago, GuruSR said:

R.  Transform to Succubus when "alert" (combat start).

I'll think about it, but I'm not sold on the idea.

[GuruSR]

8 hours ago, phalancks said:

You just have to get it into their inventory. How you do that is up to you. Some options include followers, reverse pickpocketing, and console commands. You could also use spid to distribute the spells.

Okay, I did manage to reverse put it into an inventory, but, am I supposed to see something happen, was there an effect to it happening?

 

8 hours ago, phalancks said:

Can you provide more details about what this situation is? Arousal and other forced transformations shouldn't cost energy and shouldn't cause untransforming due to no energy. It's possible this is a bug exposed by script lag in your game but I need more information first.

I had the Lower and Upper set to 80, the transformations set to 100% for when they happen and I tried to untransform and when it went back to human (human uses energy), it drained to 0 and went back to transformed due to low energy, then because of the arousal was 0, it went back to human and went back to transformed because of the energy.

 

If I set the Lower to 0 and the Upper to 80, if transformed, using the manual transform, it says it is blocked due to the Arousal limits, there isn't a "disable" for the Lower.

 

8 hours ago, phalancks said:

Tattoos are LewdMarks. Wings are Animated Wings Ultimate for the gifs and DX Succubus (Mazken) Armor for the jpegs.  Horns are ED Horns for the gifs and DX Succubus Armor for the jpegs.

Ah, thanks, got the ED Horns (but not the RaceMenu addition for it), already had the Animated Wings Ultimate, so you're using the hidden equippable ones.

 

8 hours ago, phalancks said:

This is shown by the color of the energy bar

There is a difference in the color of the energy bar based on if deadly drain is on or not?  Either human or Succubus shows a different color, but wasn't sure what color changes the deadly drain did, is it tied in with the % used to always deadly drain as well?

 

I also forgot a request, clear diseases on orgasm, frustrating when having fun in a dungeon and a rat or wolf comes along and nibbles on you, giving you a disease.

 

Is there an effect animation that can be done to tie the victim to the Succubus as it is about to die, seems odd they just drop dead with no fanfare.

 

GuruSR.

[phalancks]

5 hours ago, GuruSR said:

Okay, I did manage to reverse put it into an inventory, but, am I supposed to see something happen, was there an effect to it happening?

No there's no effect or message in game for it, just in the papyrus logs. You can verify it worked in the MCM.

 

5 hours ago, GuruSR said:

I had the Lower and Upper set to 80, the transformations set to 100% for when they happen and I tried to untransform and when it went back to human (human uses energy), it drained to 0 and went back to transformed due to low energy, then because of the arousal was 0, it went back to human and went back to transformed because of the energy.

 

If I set the Lower to 0 and the Upper to 80, if transformed, using the manual transform, it says it is blocked due to the Arousal limits, there isn't a "disable" for the Lower.

The Upper and Lower thresholds are both for transforming into your succubus form. If you are below the Lower threshold or above the Upper threshold you will be transformed into your succubus form. Setting one of them to 0 will disable that threshold. To be transformed back to human your arousal would have to be between the Upper and Lower thresholds. You need to wait up to 10 seconds for changes to the arousal thresholds to take effect.

 

I think I know what the issue with the arousal thresholds and human form costing energy is though. I'll have to rework some stuff to fix it. For now the easiest way is probably to disable Arousal Untransform so that you aren't automatically put into human form when between the thresholds.

5 hours ago, GuruSR said:

so you're using the hidden equippable ones

Correct

5 hours ago, GuruSR said:

There is a difference in the color of the energy bar based on if deadly drain is on or not?  Either human or Succubus shows a different color, but wasn't sure what color changes the deadly drain did, is it tied in with the % used to always deadly drain as well?

The only thing that changes the color of the bar is the current drain type. Anything that changes the current drain type will change the color. The options are white, pink, and red, which indicate none, drain, and deadly drain respectively.

 

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clear diseases on orgasm

Maybe as part of a perk tree.

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Is there an effect animation that can be done to tie the victim to the Succubus as it is about to die, seems odd they just drop dead with no fanfare.

Probably not.

Edited February 21, 2025 by phalancks

[GuruSR]

On 2/21/2025 at 2:38 PM, phalancks said:

No there's no effect or message in game for it, just in the papyrus logs. You can verify it worked in the MCM.

Would like to see one, just something, even a glow around the character and possibly a notification.

 

On 2/21/2025 at 2:38 PM, phalancks said:

The Upper and Lower thresholds are both for transforming into your succubus form. If you are below the Lower threshold or above the Upper threshold you will be transformed into your succubus form. Setting one of them to 0 will disable that threshold. To be transformed back to human your arousal would have to be between the Upper and Lower thresholds. You need to wait up to 10 seconds for changes to the arousal thresholds to take effect.

I'll try waiting 10 seconds for the changes to happen, but I'm pretty sure it was a bunch of times I tried to manually change back with 0 arousal and the Lower set to 0 and it said it was blocked due to Arousal.

 

On 2/21/2025 at 2:38 PM, phalancks said:

I think I know what the issue with the arousal thresholds and human form costing energy is though. I'll have to rework some stuff to fix it. For now the easiest way is probably to disable Arousal Untransform so that you aren't automatically put into human form when between the thresholds.

I did, was wondering if it would be harder to offer the Lower transforms you back to human (not during sex), the Upper transforms you to Succubus (at any time).  Or options thereof.

 

Just would be more game play if you were having sex with someone and they weren't satisfying you and your arousal went past Upper so you transformed, with the drain type locked and set to kill, so you'd end up killing the person.

 

On 2/21/2025 at 2:38 PM, phalancks said:

The only thing that changes the color of the bar is the current drain type. Anything that changes the current drain type will change the color. The options are white, pink, and red, which indicate none, drain, and deadly drain respectively.

Ah, must be the color range not being very far apart, I'll take another look at it with the lock off.

 

On 2/21/2025 at 2:38 PM, phalancks said:

clear diseases on orgasm:  Maybe as part of a perk tree.

Yes please.

 

On 2/21/2025 at 2:38 PM, phalancks said:

Probably not.

Oh, why is that, the victim could glow the same color as the drain animation, which doesn't seem to be "aimed" at the victim.

 

And on that note, tried the Mark of the Succubus using another means to give it to them, then found out, 2 Succubus can't have sex (NPC and player), or death happens, mind you the player was "mortal" at the time, I'll try it again later with both, but the NPC is always in "Succubus" form afterwards.  Not sure that makes sense lore wise, figured they would be immune to other Succubus/Succubis' draining effects.

 

Also, I clicked on the NPC Succubus in the MCM and it removed it.  I was not sure if there was a means of seeing their stats, level, etc.  Instead, I wiped out them being one, without a dialogue to stop me from doing it.

 

EDITS:

 

*BUG*  Succubus' can't masturbate, they kill themselves!

*BUG*  Succubus in Mortal can still drain to kill.  (Tried masturbate lesser power from SLEN while not transformed, still drained and died.)

*BUG*  Succubus dies in orgy, seems the drain function is mistaking the Succubus as a drain target, saw an NPC Succubus (immortal) go down on 1 knee from being drained as did her target.  The player died in a threesome as the only Succubus, the other two walked away normally, no drain.

*BUG*  Set the drain option on transform, message says it turns it off when not transformed, this isn't true, died having regular sex not transformed.

 

Seems the drain victim code is improperly detecting the target as valid (a Succubus/Succubi having sex shouldn't be a target).

 

GuruSR.

Edited February 24, 2025 by GuruSR
BUGS!

[Zenarah]

Are the paths in the mod already? ❤️ i see we can pick them in the menu for the basic buffs but no perks like sneak feeding or anything yet. Also was curious about the maintain human form option. Does that also include the buffs we normally get in succubus form to work on human form instead? Then another thing i was curious about... will there ever be like a futa option for transformation?^^ I tried to equip one from another mod using the change equipment on transformation option hoping gender bender would change it in sexlab but the equipable ones don't do that.

 

[phalancks]

10 hours ago, Zenarah said:

Are the paths in the mod already? ❤️ i see we can pick them in the menu for the basic buffs but no perks like sneak feeding or anything yet. Also was curious about the maintain human form option. Does that also include the buffs we normally get in succubus form to work on human form instead? Then another thing i was curious about... will there ever be like a futa option for transformation?^^ I tried to equip one from another mod using the change equipment on transformation option hoping gender bender would change it in sexlab but the equipable ones don't do that.

 

Paths are still being worked on. Molag should be in the next update. Buffs do not get applied in human form. Futa will probably happen at some point.